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Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by superstar1(m): 9:57pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
ChrisOD: It does. It shows the buffer zone and shock ability of each state. If FGN removes allocations today, due to the oil wells drying up, your IGR will show whether you will thrive, survive, barely make ends meet or out rightly turn to detroit --- bankruptcy. Allocation makes stealing easier for politicians. With IGR, the citizens are more concerned about how government/politicians are spending the money, because it is the sweat of the people. With asking of questions by the electorate, the system will induce better think tanks as politicians, sustainable accountability and progressive development. 2 Likes |
Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by atlwireles: 9:59pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
ChrisOD: But IGR and GDP are now becoming political weapons to determine, the free loaders in the system. So, states need to take them serious. |
Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by ChrisOD: 9:59pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
ketoprofen: Yes I said University ranking was arguable But those other stats you mentioned are still individual indices. And I have said that individually we are the best. Can you readily mention one great government hospital in Igboland where someone from Lagos or Kano can come for treatment? Those are public things we are lacking. |
Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by Kponkwem(m): 10:00pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
EasternLeopard: The 2006 census often bandied about was not comprehensively counted in the SE because of the MASSOB apprehension. The SE is the most congested zone in the country. Growing at about 3 per cent per annum, the Igbo should number between 30 to 40 million peoples in Nigeria alone. The 2016 census will shock many people in this fake country. Be that as it may, it is good to spread investment as the Igbos are doing as it always come in handy. A tribe that loves itself like the Igbo-as witnessed during the civil war-where people shared salts, medicine, (supplies) and cloths with neighbours in the heat of famine, would always leverage on them at the right time. Ndewo! |
Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by ChrisOD: 10:01pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
atlwireles: Yes, I am arguing along these lines too. Read my posts. I just wanted to tamper down Superstar1 a little bit |
Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by ketoprofen(m): 10:02pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
superstar1: And u think what happens in USA occurs in Oyo state? hahahahahahaha loots loots loots. They loot allocations n borrow much for a cheap project. Imagine osun with GDP got 8.4b naira and spent it on substandard tablets that have been withdrawn from schools, is that what u r talking abt? Mtchew. U invest borrowed funds on revenue generating projects not for looting. |
Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by EasternLeopard: 10:03pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
superstar1: Pls read my post before this post You will see an example of how community development groups and individual re- investment supported by govt can help in infrastructural development |
Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by ketoprofen(m): 10:05pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
ChrisOD: For what diseases? And mention the diseases that can be treated in kano which can't be treated in Enugu for eg. What do u mean by one govt Hosp one can come for treatment? |
Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by ChrisOD: 10:05pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
Even, the current state of Ariaria Market in Aba https://www.nairaland.com/1874739/current-state-ariaria-international-market is a classic example of how private wealth cannot do much for the collective good. Okay, why is every trader not tarring the front of their shop in that market? |
Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by EasternLeopard: 10:08pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
superstar1: Let's be frank When govt waste money and we complain, what happens next.? |
Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by ketoprofen(m): 10:08pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
EasternLeopard: leave that dude, let him keep talking. he is from osun and I have not seen any remarkable thing in that state both private n public , yet, its GDP is bigger than anambra. With enough debt profile that will wake up a dead man. I told u that those figures have lapses. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by superstar1(m): 10:11pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
ketoprofen: We are talking reality here and not the usual tribalistic partisan talk. If you want to travel that lane, I will gladly oblige you. Trust me. However, Osun borrowing has greatly improved the state and even mover their IGR from a paltry 300mm to over a billion monthly. I introduced the debt profile of US and Europe, for you to see the synergy between indebtedness and development. |
Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by ketoprofen(m): 10:13pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
ChrisOD: Even, the current state of Ariaria Market in Aba https://www.nairaland.com/1874739/current-state-ariaria-international-market is a classic example of how private wealth cannot do much for the collective good. Okay, why is every trader not tarring the front of their shop in that market? I Neva said state govts shouldn't do their work. Remember how this arguments started, private wealth shd not prevent state govt from working or the FG from investing. Go through that thread, abagorro produced pix of other regions with the same problems. Lagos is the most classic eg of Nigeria n flooding, y haven't the GDP conscious state plus its private investors take care of its flooding? |
Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by superstar1(m): 10:13pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
ketoprofen: When the stats favours you, it is the correct stat, and when it favours others, it must be incorrect. The usual myopic view of the people from the East of the Niger. I am from Osun and the stat currently says their GDP is better than.the whole of SE. Deal.with it. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by atlwireles: 10:13pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
ChrisOD: Even, the current state of Ariaria Market in Aba https://www.nairaland.com/1874739/current-state-ariaria-international-market is a classic example of how private wealth cannot do much for the collective good. Okay, why is every trader not tarring the front of their shop in that market? Having lived in a community, where the village built its own secondary school, town hall and village clinic. Including a small village market. The traders of Ariara failed themselves, all the billions or tens of millions, they earn daily in the market, yet they lack the common humanity to improve the surroundings. This is not a failure of government, but a failure of the traders. |
Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by EasternLeopard: 10:14pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
ChrisOD: Even, the current state of Ariaria Market in Aba https://www.nairaland.com/1874739/current-state-ariaria-international-market is a classic example of how private wealth cannot do much for the collective good. Okay, why is every trader not tarring the front of their shop in that market? That is why I talked about community development groups Take Aba for example Government might do a feasibility study of how much it will cost to solve the flooding issue. Govt then tells the people the cost and encourage them to do their feasibility study. Once the people agree to help govt solve the problem, they will jointly solve that problem. |
Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by ketoprofen(m): 10:16pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
superstar1: and the governor used 8.4 b naira to import cheap notebooks with poor curriculum that reached UNESCO, before it was withdrawn and packaged the change . U see y we shd be more concerned with what they do with the funds, not just figures. Osun indigenes didn't get richer either, multiple taxation was introduced. Abeg ..... |
Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by superstar1(m): 10:16pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
EasternLeopard: You vote them out by next election. That is the civil way to deal with politicians and by the time the judiciary is stronger and immunity clause is removed, the citizens will start taking them to court. |
Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by ketoprofen(m): 10:17pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
atlwireles: its primarily a failure of the govt. Then, the traders |
Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by ChrisOD: 10:21pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
superstar1: Are you suggesting that politicians don't steal IGRs? |
Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by ketoprofen(m): 10:22pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
ChrisOD: Am not Here to talk abt gej and what he has done or not . Am telling u the issue at stake, all fxnal ports are in Lagos, thanks to obj. So, where are the ports in Warri to service Onitsha river port? where is onitsha port? none. Back to how we started. It gotta be private driven devt n cash for now |
Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by atlwireles: 10:22pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
ketoprofen: I have to disagree with you. The traders make enough money there, to either have enough political influence to make things happen via the state or self fund the improvement themselves. Nobody, should run any business in such an environment |
Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by ketoprofen(m): 10:24pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
ChrisOD: help me out |
Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by ChrisOD: 10:24pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
superstar1: Osun GDP greater than that of the whole of SE? Could you share that data here? Thanks. |
Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by abu12: 10:24pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
That is why when people talk of true federalism i don't have any fear, because the north will be able to sustain them self than some southern who run from their state to north for survival, especially the ibos and they like to call northern parasite. Mainwhile they are the real parasite |
Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by EasternLeopard: 10:25pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
superstar1: What is development.? How many osun people have escaped poverty and can access basic things of life.? My friend Development is all about people's wellbeing and not beautification of city landscape The fastest development is achieved through people aided by their government Pls watch this documentary THE MEN WHO BUILT AMERICA Also find out the asia men who built the first car ship train etc industries in asia and find out the impact they make If I am to advise we Igbos, I will tell the govt to find means to encourage the creation, development and contributions of SE Rockefellars JP Morgan Dangotes Ibetos etc |
Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by ketoprofen(m): 10:25pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
atlwireles: I said primarily. Don't worry, I have even said it on fb that the biz men shd build those roads and then increase the price of Aba made products. |
Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by ChrisOD: 10:28pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
ketoprofen: Any major disease at all. And please leave kano out of it. Let's discuss our own problem. Much is expected of Igbos. |
Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by EasternLeopard: 10:28pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
atlwireles: Gbam Perfect That is why government backed community development groups must be developed |
Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by superstar1(m): 10:29pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
ketoprofen: See you, they did not get richer but they have better roads, schools, health services and infrastructure -- that translates to better quality of life and life expectancy. Riches is not in Naira and Kobo alone. Get that straight. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by ketoprofen(m): 10:30pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
EasternLeopard: The kyn beautiful landscape is not in osun. From osogbo to Iwo. The clean parts of Aba are like London to osogbo, let him keep linking indebtedness to devt, that's y I said we shdnt give in to the ideology of the swners here in this issue. |
Re: Nigeria: Its Zonal Populations And Zonal Economic Contributions by superstar1(m): 10:31pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
EasternLeopard: How can you differentiate people's well being from infrastructure eg landscaping, city beautification road, electricity, water etc Will you rather have a state with infrastructure and middle class, than have one without infrastructure and supposedly rich people? |
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