comos:
Let internal democracy reign
APC is just about Tinubu and buhari
I foresee more people decamping to PDP,
I wonder if there will be any opposition to face PDP in 2015

OAM4J:

Did we read the same text?

He sure wanted to be chairman, he obtained the form (though didnt submit it, when it became obvious he was not going to win). When he found out the position was zoned to his zone, he thought all he needed was Edo governor and Edo APC members' support. forgetting that the position is still a national position.

Ikimi has reasons to be bitter, what I don't know is if leaving APC is the solution especially when all his complaints are about one man - Tinubu.

I am not a fan of Tinubu and I dont like an idea of one man having majority control/influence of a political party but one cannot dismiss the contributions of Tinubu, his doggedness and courage in standing firm against a one-party state since the days of OBJ. He has his flaws and they are many, but Ikimi is not a saint either. Even his write-up tells a lot about his flaws and characters. I see an egocentric and deluded person that is living in past glories from his write up.

Give and take, there are no saints politics. Both Ikimi and Tinubu are no saints.

OAM4J:

There are always champions of every new course, they will fade to the background with time. If APC remains, I dont see both of Tinubu and Buhari holding prominent positions or that influential in APC in 10 years.

Where are OBJ and IBB in PDP today?

jmaine: Ikimi has revealed the power struggle cancer bedeviling the APC with Tinubu fighting tooth and nail to have his way at all cost . . . .

The storm brewing in the APC is even more threatening than what the PDP passed through, I wish them the best cos the future is pregnant with more chaos in the party . . . . . .

Obiagelli:
jmaine don't be fooled, ikimi was ibb/Abacha's boy, the core elements in the APC will never allow him hold key position in the party, same goes for the likes of alimodu Sheriff, FFk and even atiku. The people are kept at arms length. There are only 3 influential groups in the APC, the Buhari group, the tinubu group and the governors. Have you heard that Atiku is tactical being pushed to run for adamawa governor? I see his likes and other plastic opposition element decamping soon.

jmaine:

Buhari also worked for Abacha and even vouched publicly for the man that he isn't corrupt , so what's the fuss here ?

The same Ikimi and Atiku were selected into the party BOT, but Ikimi dismissed the offer while Atiku accepted his, and if you believe the news that Atiku can be cajoled to contest for governorship in Adamawa, I will be disappointed.

You are also forgetting that Atiku has some form of leverage from the governors caucus , specifically from the PDP defectors who are gradually hijacking the politicking from their SW counterparts.

There is an upcoming turmoil in the APC with respect to their presidential candidacy, cos there are too many power players jostling for prominence at the National level.

Anyway, I wish them the best . . . . .

Obiagelli:
Buhari was Head of Ptf, obj could decide to head the efcc under Jonathan but that does not make him gej's boy. I believe you know what boy means in Nigeria's politics.

Obiagelli:

Honestly i don't know why buhari made that statement on abacha, that is if he ever did, i have read too many lies credited to the man.

Obiagelli:
Trust me, Atiku controls little power in the APC, handing adamawa to his is a statement of "thats all you get".
Of course they will be in the Bot but we know which 3 groups makes the decisions.

Obiagelli:
Most people don't understand the APC, absorbing atiku and co was only to weaken the pdp.

that is why we are looking for leaders that will do away with the Nigerian context.

i would like to hear from the man himself and his reason, don't forget it was this same Buhari that refused Mohammed Abacha kano ticket in the Cpc.

it wasn't so much getting stronger, it was more of weakening your enemy. Bro, the core of the APC (Acn and CPC) are going nowhere

AjanleKoko: Well . . . these people aren't in a war. Bizznizz must remain Bizznizz na
Abi won't Jagaban do his bizznizz ni

Na una floor members dey halla.

jmaine: Qoutes from Obiagelli . . . . . .



And who is controlling their process of selection . . . The same men who we are seeking this change from . . . .



That man has his reasons, so while you wait to hear from him, it doesn't change the fact that he made them . . . .



Which means the ANPP and Okorocha APGA faction can go to blazes for all you care , simply because the ACN and CPC are staying put, but you forgot the fact that notable party chieftains from both the CPC and ACN has decamped . .

talk about strengthening the enemy (PDP) in disguise. . . . .

soroptimist:

God bless you edogirl......Ikimi is just out to hoodwink the gullible..........His latest singing escapades like a canary will only fool the illiterates who will not be able to dispassionately separate Tinubu the business man from Tinubu the Politician

What is the sin in Tinubu using his clout to make the Fed Govt remove the impediment they placed on his business interest even while he still remains a staunch opponent of the same Federal Government

It is not only those who are in PDP that should or must have access to Nigeria's National prosperity......Being in opposition does not make one an enemy of the country

People who are given to emotion and shout 'eh' 'oh' 'uh' after reading all this epistle of Tom Ikimi thinks it is only a saint that can play politics

Did Gani Fawehinmi,Tai Solarin supposedly decent and clean men not stand for election in Nigeria.......did you all vote for them?

Politicking involves a lot of money and logistics and a pauper cant play in that league no matter how rich in idea or manifesto the person or party is

In as much as none of us is ready to become financial members of political parties as it used to be the case in the 60s-80s,then we will continue to make do with money bags who are prepared to fill in the blanks with their resources

Obiagelli: [/color] i will wait for the APC to disappoint me in its selection first before i agree with you but so far so good. [/color]

Obiagelli: [/color] like i said earlier i have seen so many lies credited to the man buhari. The person that said Abacha was a saint refused his son the cpc ticket, something is not right. [/color]

I brought General Buhari into politics; It’s not that I want to expose him. We did everything to support and encourage him. He called my son Mohammed to join the Congress for Progressive Change, CPC. They rejected Mohammed by force during the governorship race -:

Obiagelli: [/color] have told you in the past, i have never been a fan of the Anpp other than they brought in voting power from 3 states. I am yet to see core Acn and CPC members leave ( then i will believe there is a problem) [/color]

Obiagelli: [/color] have told you in the past, i have never been a fan of the Anpp other than they brought in voting power from 3 states. I am yet to see core Acn and CPC members leave ( then i will believe there is a problem) [/color]

You know igbos killed rochas chances,

Sheriff, FFk, marwa, ikimi and co are very unstable, always had a leg in the pdp. I consider Shekarau the only real loss.

Nwoguphillip: Pure speculation Tom Tom what's wrong with you ....wale Tinubu is more than capable as md n CEO of Oando to resolve his issues without Asiwaju who has no business ties with Oando as the structure of Oando board portrays. Wale Tinubu is not involved in politics and is not a Politician and has very good relationship with nnpc being a very competent business man helping to boost the national economy . Uncivilised as Abiola called you is why you cannot see clearly to understand the link is not the way you see it. Do you not know the chairman of Oando have uyou not seen the constitution of the board are the board members not capable enough, why must you always mention Tinubu you are so caught up in envy and admiration you cannot even decipher what is important or feasible in this situation. Go and rest at 70 you have tried.. Enibonafe Joro mi JoMiri jo

J12:

The man clearly stated that he had no intention to vie for the chairmanship of the APC. Hence, I thinks it makes no sense trying to rope him for something he never claimed of getting involved in.

In another vein, it is very treacherous on the part of Tinubu to continually sell the national ambitions and destiny of "his party" to the his opponents. As a leader, he is solemnly expected to stand by the party's candidates at all times and not use them as pawns in his political games.

The allegations Ikimi made are very correct. The aftermath of Tinubu's actions are very visible - In the defections of key and honest party members like Ribadu, the loss of an APC state to the PDP and the negative views the nigerian politically conscious public hold towards the APC.

Tinubu is traitor and anybody who chooses to be his ally should be wary of his negative attitude towards competition and democracy.

maestroferddi:

Really? Where is the precedence? Did Awo achieve a cult followership in Western Region political consciousness by an unconscionable quest for personal aggrandisement?

Desric: Do you in fact know the meaning of internal Democracy? How many national PDP caucus meetings do you see Tambuwal attending of late? ..... to maintain your strategy against your enemy, "a mole must be treated as a mole". Tom Tom suddenly became a Judas thereby getting the treatment he got.

soroptimist:

Trying to compare politicking during Awo's time and what is presently obtainable is akin to comparing Heaven and Hell

We had a situation where members contributed to the party from whence the party got money to run itself.....The people own the party and had a sense of belonging with them....Not what is happening now,where most of us are apatethic and would not want to spend our fortune to support a cause

The Military incursion in our body polity by IBB wherein he banned almost all the old war-horse who knew much about party management and ideology,paved the way for the winner takes all mentality we now have

And adaptability being a part of a man's survival instinct,a situation whereby almost all the Military Generals having been pushed out of power and their conservative element who have benefitted a lot found their way to the PDP and were ever prepared to outmuscle and outspend anyone in order to keep the cookie jar from being taken away from them....

i don't think we should go for the Buhari argument, you my stand and i know yours. Kwakwanso haa performed well enough to take a shot at the presidency. Don't tell me you have a problem with where he comes from (tribalism)
Btw he has done far better than gej did when he was governor

Buhari was Cpc and CPC was buhari

marwa contested pdp primaries in 2003.

its unfair to blame rochas for the fall of apga. It wasn't as if Apga was one when rochas left.

well we know the bigger loser, rivers, kano and Sokoto is no joke o.

comos:
Let internal democracy reign
APC is just about Tinubu and buhari
I foresee more people decamping to PDP,
I wonder if there will be any opposition to face PDP in 2015