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|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by smartzee01: 7:47am On Mar 10|
Please house I need your advice. I am one of the successful candidate from the just concluded NNPC recruitment. With a BSc in life sciences, I was hinted that my posting will most likely be HSE as a safety officer. My question is how can I develop a career towards HSE and what are the necessary certification(s) and how do I go about obtaining it. Thanks as I anticipate your kind responses.
|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by jonextee(m): 8:19am On Mar 10|
Pls is there any difference between NISP & ISPON?
I need more clarification Pls.
|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by NYCnextStop(m): 11:36am On Mar 10|
TenthMan:bro which reputable organization can one get HSE certification in Lagos?
Again you said something about ISPON... please can you explain further on this??
Lastly I just concluded my masters in env. mgt. and want to get HSE certification... do I need to start with hse 1 or just hse 2&3?
|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by michaelbills(m): 12:03pm On Mar 11|
They restructured and changed their name.
|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by michaelbills(m): 12:08pm On Mar 11|
|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by TenthMan(m): 2:14pm On Mar 11|
If you can, quickly register for ISPON General HSE and HSE Levels 3. This will give you some basic knowledge on the issue of HSE. The principles learnt can then be applied to Oil and Gas Industry.
Start with ISPON. Leave NEBOSH for now, if finance is not a problem you can do NEBOSH Latter. Start with the Basics before moving into NEBOSH which has a larger syllabus. ISPON will be like a Mock NEBOSH to you. If you perform well in ISPON then you can prepare and attempt NEBOSH.
People will tell you to do NEBOSH. But please note that if Nigeria was a sane society, no one with NEBOSH would have been able to practice HSE Sciences, Engineering and Management without ISPON Training and Certification.
My advice still remains that you start with ISPON, then graduate into NEBOSH IGC, after which you can do other training courses and perhaps an MSc. in Safety Engineering.
|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by smartzee01: 6:33pm On Mar 11|
TenthMan:Thanks alot!!.... I really appreciate.
|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by TenthMan(m): 6:54pm On Mar 11|
In addition to what michaelbills has mentioned, please refer to this web page for further details:
Please be informed that should you be interested in registering for the courses, you are to visit the www.ispon.gov.ng website. The group broke into 2 factions due to shameless and childish leadership tussle of which one of the problems was about the wife of the president being the woman who has been the single contractor cooking meals for trainees during certification training programs, among other silly reasons for the leadership tussle. Eventually, the ispon.gov.ng group seemed to have won the case in court and as such granted approval by the Government to use the .gov.ng web address.
|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Torniex: 7:33pm On Mar 11|
I think Nebosh programmes on HSE will be nice...
|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by smartzee01: 4:42am On Mar 12|
|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by michaelbills(m): 7:25pm On Mar 12|
Nigeria is a mess. You just made me find out there are two ISPON Nigeria websites. This is Nigeria, they are still using the same logo. Is that not an offence? Can’t the one you suggested for us sue them to court? This will lead to scam and fraudulent activities. One of them should shut down their site.
|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by nigeriagospel(m): 9:48pm On Mar 12|
diehard:can someone who is a drop out go for all these safety course, will there be employment opportunity without bsc tendering just the safety professional certificate?
|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by nigeriagospel(m): 9:51pm On Mar 12|
diehard:create a WhatsApp group and share to it, 08102580463
|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by nigeriagospel(m): 9:56pm On Mar 12|
diehard:what's app group sir
|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by jonextee(m): 8:21am On Mar 13|
Pls is it only ISPON the accredited org I can do HSE training with or any other accredited organization?
I also want to know whether this novelle that is being advertised on NL is also ń accredited centre?
Lastly, I graduated studying English. Pls, what are my chances of getting a Job as a safety officer with my academic background? Cos I noticed most pple that get jobs in this line are either Engineering or chemistry graduates..
|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by damselflox: 3:05pm On Mar 13|
NEBOSH IGC registration is on-going at Safeguard safety and management center. You can call them on 09052345503 for further details
|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by micxwell(m): 2:28pm On Mar 17|
nigeriagospel:NO! ISPON won't even accept you if you're not one; not to talk of Nebosh
|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by micxwell(m): 2:38pm On Mar 17|
mylove4him:Hello sis. You are way ahead of we the newbies on here. Just checked your last seen now and I saw *March 16* . I was hoping you could at aleast encourage us by answering our questions and may be share your wealth of HSE experience with us all. We'll really appreciate it...
|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Iykecaroll(m): 7:44am On Mar 19|
Please can I send you a DM, Sir?
|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Teeteelayor90: 11:38am On Mar 20|
|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Teeteelayor90: 11:52am On Mar 20|
I have a good and well acceptable email o use for any official purpose(email@example.com). I only decided to drop that cause that was what I used to register nairaland.Thanks anyways for your observation and advice
|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Teeteelayor90: 12:09pm On Mar 20|
Please can you add me to any of the safety groups you mentioned on WhatsApp:08066248626
And please I noticed having a professional certificate is part of ISPON criteria to becoming a member, how did you go about yours?
|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by micxwell(m): 10:33pm On Mar 20|
Teeteelayor90:What have you done or are you doing currently? Are you working as a safety officer already?
And yes, you have to get ISPON's certification to qualify for the membership screening and examination.
|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Greatken007(m): 3:02am On Mar 22|
Where did you get your story about one's wife cooking for trainees? As professionals it's not cool to believe in hear say. ISPON has several branches and each branch handles its affairs on Training matters without the knowledge of the president, president only comes in during screening of membership and there is no form of eating and drinking and it is also organized at branch level or sometimes combined with two to three branches. Induction of members is also not organized by the president.
|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by TenthMan(m): 12:19pm On Mar 22|
With all due respect, I will not join issues with you on this matter. The court cases and documents are there for all to see. Interview sessions for each of the factions are also there for all to see. Any inquisitive mind should go and read about the case. I therefore decline sparing and throwing jabs with words/posts on this matter.
There are currently two (2) factions on the ISPON issue. One operates with the .gov.ng while the other operates with isponnigeria.org. Fact! Call each of the persons claiming to be the President of each and hear them out. The matter of cooking of food was one of the many silly reasons provided by one faction. Nationwide or for a Branch, I do not think I need to get that information. I will not help them resolve matters as silly as catering service which is provided in one branch and perhaps not so in others.
However, it is evidently clear there are issues. And there were many other silly reasons put forth as to why this tussle came to be. Shameful reasons for a body which is supposed to be highly professional and organized. This confusion should not exist. With respect to the duties of the president, I am well versed on his duties, powers and responsibilities. These are all there for people to see as well.
Finally, Sir, in order not to make this thread/topic like other topics/threads on this majorly childish forum (Nairaland), I will not respond on this matter henceforth as my point is made. Let discerning minds search and form their independent opinions on the matter.
More links can be provided. However, like I said above, I will not discuss this matter further. Let people be inquisitive enough.
|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by TenthMan(m): 1:23pm On Mar 22|
IS ISPON THE ONLY ACCREDITED ORGANIZATION TO DO HSE TRAINING?
No ISPON is not, can never be the only and should not be. It is like saying that only a particular secondary school called WAEC should offer senior secondary education in Nigeria. WAEC is the exam and you can choose to prepare for the WAEC Exam by attending any secondary school of your choosing. The syllabus and curriculum are there for you to read and prepare for the exam. When you write the exam and pass, WAEC issues you your certificate without bothering about which school you wrote it, as long as such a school has been approved by WAEC for the exam with a valid exam center number.
This is how it is in many countries. Now if we should benchmark by other examinations and other countries, ISPON is supposed to simply state the various levels of certification and the various curriculum for each. Then training centers (accredited by ISPON) teach these courses/curriculum to prospective candidates. These candidates would also have registered with ISPON to sit for the certification exam. ISPON then conducts the exam and provides certificates to those that pass. This is the same way NEBOSH is organised. There are accredited training centers for NEBOSH and after the training, you write the exams.
In my opinion, ISPON has decided to play these two (2) roles because it has the advantage of giving full control and more financial resources. As a mater of fact they are also playing a third role which is Consultancy Services. However it has its setbacks as well. But we cannot also neglect its advantages.
CAN YOU DO HSE TRAINING WITH ANY OTHER ACCREDITED ORGANIZATION?
Yes you can. Feel free to do as many training as you can. But these will not give you Professional ISPON Certification. Training Certification is different from Professional Certification. The last time I checked, to be a Member of ISPON you need to first go through the relevant HSE training (Gen HSE, HSE Levels 1,2,3) with them at ISPON, depending on your level of academic qualification. It is after you have done this that you then can apply to becoming a Professional Certified Member. I doubt if this has changed till date. So if you want Training Certification for various training on HSE, there are many out there. But if you want to be a member of ISPON, you need to have undergone their relevant HSE Training before applying to be a member. You can further contact/call them for an independent verification Sir.
IF NOVELLE IS AN ACCREDITED CENTER?
To know if a training center is accredited by an association or certification body, please contact such an association or certification body either through email or their website. If you want to know if they are accredited by NEBOSH for instance, go to the NEBOSH Website and search for accredited training centers in Africa/Nigeria. There name must be there. In some instances you need to tell the Training Center to provide their accreditation I.D. No. to verify. For instance if Novell claims it is licensed by Department of Petroleum Resources (DPR), they need to provide their DPR OGISP Number, so we verify on DPR Website. Do this yourself where possible. Convince yourself. Dont just take our words for it.
CHANCES OF GETTING A JOB AS A GRADUATE IN ENGLISH?
You are correct that a lot of employers require Engineering or Natural/Physical Science Background alongside the professional and training certifications. However, I noticed this is common in many engineering (chemical process, structural, mechanical, electrical, petroleum) domains.
It is usually not common with all companies. The reason is because hazards emanate from physical, chemical processes and phenomena. Even the area of Human Factor and Behavioral Safety emanate from Biological and Psychological Sciences. YOU CAN NOT BE A WELL GROUNDED PROFESSIONAL IF YOU DO NOT HAVE FUNDAMENTAL KNOWLEDGE KNOWLEDGE IN CERTAIN PHYSICAL/NATURAL SCIENCE PRINCIPLES. FACT. How do you calculate drop object risk? How do you determine how far you should keep a flammable material from one that generates heat if you cannot estimate rate of convection, radiation, conduction etc. depending on which applies? I am not talking about knowing these principles in theory, I am talking about applying them to designing and practically controlling hazards and mitigating against risks in a workplace.
However, there are other areas of HSE that you can also further delve into. For instance HSE Culture/Behavior Based Safety. These persons know how to make staff of various companies imbibe and obey HSE Rules and Regulations. The focus is mainly on human psychology and human behaviors. They are so good at promoting safety culture that companies call them to come in periodically,to audit their HSE Management System and see how these rules and regulations on good HSE Practices can be obeyed and respected by all staff. So you can do your ISPON,NEBOSH, etc and focus on HSE Culture. It is one thing to make HSE Rules but another to get people to comply. Firing and sacking people is the last resort. It is better people comply willingly. The professionals in behavior based safety know just the right tools that are required to get operators and workers to comply with HSE Regulations. However, you still need to have some fundamental knowledge of natural sciences.
As a matter of fact there is an institution in France, ICSI, which is focused on this a lot.
Here are some free resources/books/materials in this area.
|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by TenthMan(m): 1:40pm On Mar 22|
I will not be able to provide this detail Sir. Please kindly do a quick search on the internet. Contact them and independently verify their accreditation status. Some could have been accredited last year but failed to renew this year. You have to verify this personally.
Please on which matter exactly, Sir? I have said a lot about ISPON on this thread. If you can narrow down on any specific comment of mine, I can elaborate further.
Please contact ISPON.GOV.NG directly. To the best of my knowledge, for graduates, you do the General HSE Course and then go straight to do the HSE Level 3 Course. This could have changed. Please contact them directly. I have added the link to their website. You can get the relevant contact details therein.
|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by NYCnextStop(m): 4:18pm On Mar 22|
TenthMan:thanks but how do I go about the verification?
|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by TenthMan(m): 4:38pm On Mar 22|
I do not understand how I will help you further in this regard, Sir.
I clearly posted above that you should contact each directly and ask for evidence or proof of their accreditation status. I also clearly stated that you contact the accreditation body they claim to have been accredited by.
For instance I have done a quick search for NEBOSH on their site and came up with this link. Which is being proactive and inquisitive, traits you will definitely need as a HSE Professional.
The page shows you the search engine for accredited training providers. Just select the course and the country and the list of centers/partners will appear. This is how most of them are. For DPR Accreditation of a training service provider for the oil and gas industry, ask the company to forward their permit number to you. Type this into the DPR OGISP Permit Verification Page [url] https://ogisp.dpr.gov.ng/validate/[/url] then search their status.
The best thing to do is for you to ask them to show you proof of their claims on accreditation.
|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by micxwell(m): 1:59am On Mar 24|
TenthMan:Much respect sir!... Good explanation.
|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Teeteelayor90: 2:17pm On Mar 24|
Yes,please chat me on WhatsApp: 08066248626 need some information from you. Thanks
|Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by micxwell(m): 4:06pm On Mar 24|
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