malvisguy212:
1. Your father, a pagan,use to perfoam a ritual,if you are a prophet of the true God.will you continue the ritual in worshiping God?you know it wrong. 2.muhammad introducd allah ,his father gods when he destroyed the 360 god and then introduce his father god as Allah.

this is a clear proof of the fact that you didnt understand a bit of what I sent.
what gives me comfort is that when I reply , its not meant for you alone , others who might think you have a solid point would only see it crumbling like a heap of leaves

malvisguy212:
you are only exposing your self,allowu udatso to relply he is more interlingent than you,you are making things hard for hm.muhammad called his father kafur but he say IT IS NO SIN FOR ANYONE WHO PERFOARM TAWAF BETWEEN SAFA AND MARWA. Dos your post make sens bro?
Abeg go seat down.

Mr. Man his post is very relevant it is you that suppose to open your devilish heart and hear to make truth sit down for you body. In fact his response is more powerful to debunk you claim than atomic bomb

udatso:


guess who is another word from God in the quran apart from jesus (as). if you don't know then you haven't done justice to your research


how many times was moses mentioned in the Qur'an? 136 times .


have you ever done research on what word or spirit from/of God means in the quranic or islamic perspective

Did you mind that zone B? he is only garbage in garbage out did he know how many time Pharaoh was also mentioned in the qura'an so if mentioning name signifies dignity does that mean pharaoh was also holy?

He was posting what one yeye christian posted online so he just copy paste without any research. If you want to catch him, ask him to list Verse of the Qura'an where Jesus was mentioned in the qura'an

AdeSolution:
Someone said:he is the way....truth and life...
Someone said he doesnt knw ur end...common who worths being followed


I have gone through lots of researches, read more of books on religion and have heard much, but it sincerely got the ground that there is only one God and that is the God of Israel. The quoran made it known that Jesus is the word after talking about Jesus in 25 places compared to Mohammed;in four places. Jesus is referred to as the Word;spirit of God and Jesus Christ and that is in the quoran. As well, no female was made mentioned of in the quoran apart from Mariam, the mother of Jesus.
God created the world through his word.. Jesus is the word of God. The word is the creator. Jesus therefore is the creator, then why disturb ourselves on who to follow. Let us not create a division because of religion but to know the truth is the basic thing. Everyone has the decision to make but everyone just have to pick either life or death.

This is a great lie show me the word "Jesus" in the qura'an

malvisguy212:
you are only exposing your self,allowu udatso to relply he is more interlingent than you,you are making things hard for hm.muhammad called his father kafur but he say IT IS NO SIN FOR ANYONE WHO PERFOARM TAWAF BETWEEN SAFA AND MARWA. Dos your post make sens bro?
Abeg go seat down.

are you afraid of me tou should have try to prove my response wrong...........since when i have been charring with youu you never prove me wrong for once

Abdulsalam20:




are you afraid of me tou should have try to prove my response wrong...........since when i have been charring with youu you never prove me wrong for once

your knowlegde of the bible is so weak that why i dont like repying you.

Abdulsalam20:




are you afraid of me tou should have try to prove my response wrong...........since when i have been charring with youu you never prove me wrong for once

your knowlegde of the word of God is so weak that why i dont like repying you.

malvisguy212:
your knowlegde of the word of God is so weak that why i dont like repying you.

I can see the fear in you so much that you forget how to spell knowledge even when auto correct is there for you.

Reply him jooo

malvisguy212:
your knowlegde of the bible is so weak that why i dont like repying you.

wait what is the meaning of bible it self it means book even though we cant find the word bible in the bible and the word christianity and the word trinity


i know why you dont want to respond it is just simply because christianty is an antichrist and man made religion AND MAN IS NOT PERFECT you cannot prove the quran wrong because it is a word of GOD



ACCEPT ISLAM THE RELIGION OF ALL PROPHET AND BE SAVED

Abdulsalam20:


wait what is the meaning of bible it self it means book even though we cant find the word bible in the bible and the word christianity and the word trinity


i know why you dont want to respond it is just simply because christianty is an antichrist and man made religion AND MAN IS NOT PERFECT you cannot prove the quran wrong because it is a word of GOD



ACCEPT ISLAM THE RELIGION OF ALL PROPHET AND BE SAVED

A word is enough for a wise so mavis and the likes head to Abdulsalam20's advice o

Abdulsalam20:

GIVE ME AN EVIDENCE THAT MUHAMMAD WORSHIP IDOL NITWIT EVEN THOUGH THERE IS CLEAR EVIDENCE THAT ANOTHER PROPHET IS COMING IN THE BIBLE

You are still deceiving yourself that the coming of muhammad is in the bible abi?

Abdulsalam20:


wait what is the meaning of bible it self it means book even though we cant find the word bible in the bible and the word christianity and the word trinity


i know why you dont want to respond it is just simply because christianty is an antichrist and man made religion AND MAN IS NOT PERFECT you cannot prove the quran wrong because it is a word of GOD



ACCEPT ISLAM THE RELIGION OF ALL PROPHET AND BE SAVED

Wishful thinking!

mustang44:
You are still deceiving yourself that the coming of muhammad is in the bible abi?

so you still dey on NL try to prove me wrong in the thread we met

try to know the meaning of lie? lie is what you can prove wrong since you cant then am right

and you should try to bail malvisguy212 out
maintain your position you ran away from this

www.nairaland.com/1881096/going-hajj-bible-evidence/4

from page 2 to and also prove the main topic wrong


if you like pls can we debate on it?muhammad in the bible

mustang44:
Wishful thinking!

mr antichrist.......... prove all what i post wrong........follower of paul

Abdulsalam20:


wait what is the meaning of bible it self it means book even though we cant find the word bible in the bible and the word christianity and the word trinity


i know why you dont want to respond it is just simply because christianty is an antichrist and man made religion AND MAN IS NOT PERFECT you cannot prove the quran wrong because it is a word of GOD



ACCEPT ISLAM THE RELIGION OF ALL PROPHET AND BE SAVED

It was only muhammad that was a muslim. Let me tell you, muhammad was an arabian, muhammad was not in line with the hebrew and the jewish prophets. If all the biblical prophets were muslims like you said how come their followers were not muslims? Even their descendants are not muslims too. How come the isrealites are not muslims? Are you trying to say that they became spostates of islam?

mustang44:
It was only muhammad that was a muslim. Let me tell you, muhammad was an arabian, muhammad was not in line with the hebrew and the jewish prophets. If all the biblical prophets were muslims like you said how come their followers were not muslims? Even their descendants are not muslims too. How come the isrealites are not muslims? Are you trying to say that they became spostates of islam?

asm malvisguy212 he will explainthis fir you...........even for you saying this shows you dont undersatand your book.......i promise you am still coming back to answer it am just kinda busy.......right now...........infact this questuion you ask is what made some people convert to islam because christianity is exposed in it



meanwhile malvisguy212 am still awaiting your response

and mustang44 you havent answer my questions in the other threas you ran away
https://www.nairaland.com/1881096/going-hajj-bible-evidence/4 from page2 to4





but i promise am still coming back for that question you ask coz am on a long distance journey right now

mustang44 i will respond to your question little by little u posted this '[s] Let me tell
you, muhammad was an arabian, muhammad was not in
line with the hebrew and the jewish prophets. [/s]


ARABS ARE DESCEDANT OF JEW AND MUHAMMAD IS PROPHESISED IN YOUR BOOK.......I WILL EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU WITH THE BIBLE

arabs are descedant of jew even though part of the story has been fabricated in the bible i can still prove this
here are proof that arab are descedant of jew

[b] Abraham received
instruction from God to take
Hagar and her baby Ishmael
to a barren and lifeless place in Arabia (Paran). The area
of Paran is also referred to in the Bible in (Gen 21:21).

2. When Abraham began to leave Hagar and Ishmael alone
in such barren wilderness, Hagar cried to him and asked
why he was leaving her in the desert, eventually she asked
if God had commanded him to do this and Abraham
responded yes. When Hagar ran out of water, the baby
was crying (Gen 21:17-19)

3. and in a moment of despair and
apparent death, God Hears (i.e. Ishmael Gen 16:11)
the
cry and intervenes again and a spring of water suddenly
gushed forth from under Ishmael's feet
. That well later
came to be known as the well of Zamzam. One must ask
why God intervenes to save Ishmael, perhaps because he
was part of a divine plan? AND THIS WELL IS THE WELL THAT MUSLIM DRINK WATER FROM WHEN THEY GO TO HAJJ EVEN THOUH THIS IS EVIDENT IN THE BIBLE

4.
One morning
Abraham rose up, gave provisions and water to Ishmael
and Hagar, and left them in the wilderness of Beer Sheba
in Southern Palestine (Gen 21:14).
When Hagar ran out of
water she could not bear to watch her son die, so she sat
away. Eventually, an angel appeared before her and
provided her with a spring of water. The angel further
told her (Gen 21:18) Arise, lift up the lad and hold him in
your hand; for I will make him a great nation
. Ishmael
dwelt in the wilderness of Paran (Gen 21:17-21) He had
twelve sons one of whom one was named Kedar (Gen
25:13). DID YOU KNOW THIS STORY IS PART O THE STORY THAT MAKE MUSLIM GOING TO HAJJ EVEN THOUGH CHRISTIAN FARICATE THE BIBLE TO ELIMINATE THE POINT BUT IT IS STILL EVIDENT [/b]




NOW I HAVE PROVE THAT ARAB ARE DESCEDANT OF ISMAHEEL
LETS MOVE TO GOD CONVENANT WITH ISMAHEEL

1. (Genesis 21:13) Of the son of the maidservant (i.e.
Ishmael) I will make a great nation because he is thy seed

2. (Genesis 12:2-3) And I will make of thee a great nation,
and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou
shall be a blessing. And I will bless them that bless thee,
and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

3. (Genesis 17:4) As for me, behold, my covenant is
with thee, and thou shall be a father of many nations.

4. In the book of Deuteronomy 18:17-18, Moses was
quoted as saying: And the lord said to me, they have well
spoken that which they have spoken, I will raise them up
a prophet from among their brothers, like you, and will
put my words in his mouth and he shall speak unto them
all that I shall command him. .....continued on the next line.

mustang44

Three important elements are included in this
prophecy: A prophet will come from among the brethren
of the Israelites; this prophet will be like Moses and God
will put his word in the mouth of this prophet.

pls come to think of this your self WHO IS THE PROPHET?
1. FIRST: The bible refers to the Israelites as the brethren of
the Ishmaelite (Gen 16:12, 25:18).

2. Moreover, Isaiah
42:1-11 Speaks of the geography of where this prophet will
come from.
Verse 42:11 states Let the desert and its towns
raise their voices; let the settlements where KEDAR lives
rejoice. Let the people of Sela sing for joy, let them shout
from the top of the mountains. According to the Book of
Genesis, KEDAR was the second son of Ishmael (Gen.
25:13). The best-known prophet who came from Ishmael's
descendants is Muhammad.


NOW LETS ANALYSE WHICH PROPHET IS MOSES TALKING ABOUT?

I interact with most christians they said the prophesy is abouut jesus because jesus is a jew and a prophet

If these two are the only criteria for this prophecy to be
fulfilled, then all the Prophets of the Bible who came after
Moses (pbuh) such as Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel,
Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist, etc. (pbut) will
fulfill this prophecy since all were Jews as well as prophets. AND THE PROPHESY IS TALKING ABOUT ONLY ONE PROPHET

However, it is Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who is like Moses
(pbuh):
i) Both had a father and a mother, while Jesus (pbuh) was
born miraculously without any male intervention.
[Mathew 1:18 and Luke 1:35 and also Al-Qur'an 3:42-47]
ii) Both were married and had children. Jesus (pbuh)
according to the Bible did not marry nor had children.
iii) Both died natural deaths
iv) Both besides being Prophets were also kings i.e. they
could
inflict capital punishment. Jesus (pbuh) said, "My
kingdom is not of this world." (John 18:36).
v) Both were accepted as Prophets by their people in their
lifetime but Jesus (pbuh) was rejected by his
people. John chapter 1 verse 11 states, "He came unto his
own, but his own received him not."
iv) Both brought new laws and new regulations for their
people. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not bring
any new laws. (Mathew 5:17-18) .
2. It is Mentioned in the book of Deuteronomy chapter 18:19
"And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not harken
unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will
require it of him."

THIRDLY
God will put his words in the mouth of that
Prophet. The specific wording of the above verse is a vivid
description of the type of revelation received by
Muhammad. Angel Gabriel used to come and dictate to
him specific portions of the Quran that were then
repeated by Prophet Muhammad exactly as he had heard
them. Muhammad's own thought or authorship was not
involved in any way in what he uttered. The words of God
were put into his mouth. As the Quran itself described
53:3-4:
"He (Muhammad) does not speak of his own desire, it is no
less than a revelation sent down to him."


Jesus also mentioned that Muhammad would speak only
what he hears but not on his own. For example, in John
16:7,13 Jesus said,

ut I tell you the truth: It is for your good that I
am going away. Unless I go away , the Counselor will not
come to you[b]; but if I go, I will send him to you. But when
he the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all
truth. He will not speak on his own; [b] he will speak only
what he hears , and he will tell you what is yet to
come." (NIV)

If you think the Counselor is the Holy Spirit then
they are mistaken, because the Holy Spirit was already
present at the time of Jesus (John 20:22 Luke 3:22).
Moreover, the sentence does not make sense if it is
referring to a spirit; the sentence only makes sense if it is
referring to another prophet as Deuteronomy 18:18 states
a prophet.


another prophesy of muhammad

3. Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book of Isaiah:
It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12:
"And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying,
Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned."
When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by
saying Iqra - "Read", he replied, "I am not learned"

it is left to you to think

mustang44:
It was only muhammad that was a muslim.

all prophet in the bible pray as we muslim pray


* When the Muslims pray, they fell on their faces
Then Abram fell on his face. And God said to him(Genesis
17:3 )
Then Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the
assembly to the entrance of the tent of meeting and fell on
their faces. And the glory of the LORD appeared to them,
(Numbers 20:6 )
Then Joshua tore his clothes and fell to the earth on his face
before the ark of the LORD (Joshua 7:6 ).
When all the people of Israel saw the fire come down and the
glory of the LORD on the temple, they bowed down with their
faces to the ground (2 chronicles 7:3 )
And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God, and all the people
answered,(A) “Amen, Amen,”(B) lifting up their hands.(C)
And they bowed their heads and worshiped the LORD with
their faces to the ground.(Nehemiah 8:6 )
** Jesus praying to God
”And going a little farther he fell on his face and
prayed”( Matthew 26:39 )
** Even Jesus’ disciples submitted as Muslims
When the disciples heard this, they fell on their faces and
were terrified”( Matthew 17:6 )
And Elijah went up to the top of Mount Carmel, And he bowed
himself down on the earth and put his face between his
knees.(1 kings 18: 42 )
And all the angels were standing around the throne and
around the elders and the four living creatures, and they fell
on their faces before the throne and worshiped God,
(Revelations 7:11 )
Oh come, let us worship and bow down
let us kneel before the LORD, our Maker! (Psalm 95:6 )
All the prosperous of the earth eat and worship
before him shall bow all who go down to the dust( Psalm
22:29 )
Now Manoah and his wife were watching, and they fell on
their faces to the ground. (Judges 13:20 )
And when all the people saw it, they fell on their faces and
said, “The LORD, he is God; the LORD, he is God.”( 1 kings
18:39 )
David rose from beside the stone heap and fell on his face to
the ground( 1 Samuel 20: 41 )
And Joshua fell on his face to the earth and worshiped
(Joshua 5:14 )
When Abraham’s servant heard their words, he bowed
himself to the earth before the LORD.(Genesis 24:52 )
Islam in Bible ••••►Bowing and Prostrating on the Ground
• Jesus (Pbuh)
And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed,
saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from
me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou [wilt.]. (Matthew
26:39)
• Moses (Pbuh)
And Moses bowed to the ground and worshiped. (Exodus
34:
• Moses and Aaron (Pbut) :
Then Moses and Aaron went away from the assembly to the
entrance of the tent of meeting and fell on their faces…
(Numbers 20:6)
• Abraham (Pbuh)
Then Abram fell on his face. (Genesis 17:3)
• Abraham’s servant :
When Abraham’s servant heard their words, he bowed
himself to the ground before the Lord. (Genesis 24:52)
• Joshua (Pbuh) :
And Joshua fell on his face to the earth and worshiped
(Joshua 5:14).
• Ezra and the people :
Then they bowed their heads and worshiped the Lord with
their faces to the ground. (Nehemiah 8:6)
Jesus is a muslim: Jesus using the word "Muslim" in Luke
6:40:
Let us look at Luke 6:40 from my N.I.V. Bible "A student is
not above his teacher, but everyone who is fully trained will
be like his teacher."


Islam was taught by every single prophet that came before
the prophet Muhammad, Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus
all taught and preached Islam. Including the other many
prophets such as Jacob, Ishmael, Joseph, and Isaac! And all
the prophets... prayed as the Muslim today pray , of course
this include Jesus and his disciples


WORSHIP BEFORE WUDLU(watering) .
Exodus 30:20-21
(20) When they enter the Tent of Meeting, they shall wash
their hands and feet with water, lest they die. Likewise, if they
come to the altar to minister and to burn offering made by
fire unto the Lord,
(21) should they wash their hands and their feet, lest they
die. That is what should be a provision for them for ever, for
him and for his descendants from generation to generation. "
2 Samuel 12:20
New International Version (NIV)
20 Then David got up from the ground. After he had washed,
put on lotions and changed his clothes, he went into the
house of the LORD and worshiped. Then he went to his own
house, and at his request they served him food, and he ate.
Exodus 40:31-32
New International Version (NIV)
31 and Moses and Aaron and his sons used it to wash their
hands and feet. 32 They washed whenever they entered the
tent of meeting or approached the altar, as the LORD
commanded Moses

DISCRIPTION OF SOLAT IN THE BIBLE
"Ezra the scribe stood on a high wooden platform(ready for
solat) that had been made for the occasion. To his right
stood Mattithiah, Shema, Anaiah, Uriah, Hilkiah, and
Maaseiah. To his left stood Pedaiah, Mishael, Malkijah,
Hashum, Hashbaddanah, Zechariah, and
Meshullam." (Nehemiah 8:4)."And Ezra opened the book in
the sight of all the people; (for he was above all the people
(imam) and when he opened it, all the people stood
up:" (Nehemiah 8:5)."Then Ezra praised the LORD(takbiratul
iram), the great God, and all the people chanted, "Amen!
Amen!" as they lifted their hands. Then they bowed down
(rukuh) and worshiped the LORD with their faces to the
ground(sujud)." (Nehemiah 8:6).
.

malvisguy212:
muhammad read the bible without understanding.


centuries before the
Qur’an even came into existence, the Holy Bible raised a similar challenge:
Isaiah 41:21: “Present your case, says the Lord. Bring forth your proofs, says the King of Jacob.

The quran ask for proofs. THIS IS IT.
Isaiah 42:8-9, the true God says: “I am Jehovah, that is my name! I will not give my glory to ANOTHER
or my praise to IDOLS. See, the former things have taken place, and
new things I declare; before they spring into being I announce them to you.”
muhammad join his family worship idols,God will not shere his glory with idol worshippers.
SHALOM

why worship some brown skin men when you will be better worshiping yourself.

jewish is not a tribe both religion worship by some brown cave men in present day Palestine. ..

mustang44:
If all the biblical prophets were muslims like you said how come their followers were not muslims? Even their descendants are not muslims too. How come the isrealites are not muslims? Are you trying to say that they became spostates of islam?

THE ISRAELITE EVEN TILL PRESENT ARE NOT CHRISTIAN
Judaism (75.4%)
Islam (16.9%)
Christianity (2.1%)
Druzism (1.7%)
Unknown (4%)
www.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Israel


the israelite never accept jesus that is why they sent paul to destroy eerything and they also thought they have killed jesus(puh)

you should now ask your self where did christiaity emanate from,,,,,,i wont discuss that its another topic


this verse explain it more

Jeremiah 8:8 (RSV)
8 "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is
with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it
into a lie.

quran says it better

There is among them a section who distort the Book
with their tongues: (As they read) you would think it is a
part of the Book, but it is no part of the Book; and they
say, "That is from Allah," but it is not from Allah: It is
they who tell a lie against Allah, and (well) they know it!
(Quran 3:78)

No just estimate of Allah do they make when they say:
"Nothing doth Allah send down to man (by way of
revelation)" Say: "Who then sent down the Book which
Moses brought?- a light and guidance to man: But ye
make it into (separate) sheets for show, while ye
conceal much (of its contents): therein were ye taught
that which ye knew not- neither ye nor your fathers."
Say: "Allah (sent it down)": Then leave them to plunge
in vain discourse and trifling. (Quran 6:91)


But those who wronged among them changed [the
words] to a statement other than that which had been
said to them. So We sent upon them a punishment from
the sky for the wrong that they were doing. [quran
7:162]


i think its left for you tothink

mustang44 and malisguy212 its left to you come and share your iew on this