elampiro:
Syncan, have you paid attention to Cardinal Kasper? The man Pope Francis has chosen to drive his agenda? Did you listen to his address to open the February Consitory in preparation for the Synod and he got applauded by Pope Francis? Did you listen to his pre-Synod interviews, particularly how Pope Francis backed his proposals for change in church teachings? Did you listen to his interviews during the last Synod and his remark about African bishops and the African church? He basically was telling African bishops and church they can 'go away' if they can't take their (Kasper and cohort) proposals. When he got heavily criticized, he denied giving the interview. Then the Zenit staff who interviewed him published the audio to the shame of Walter Kasper.

Have you dug to the past of this Cardinal Walter Kasper and his theology? This man is more of an atheist. If you haven't all these materials, I can publish them for your enlightenment.

No wonder your llocution told you some will be guided by hell in the Synod.

elampiro:
It's the Synod making people not to trust the church. People lost trust in the church via the Synod- CNN, Yahoo, BBC, etc all showed to billions of people what Pope Francis, Kasper and cohort were doing.

I have never even seen MDM on NTA Gbagada not to mention NTA International.

elampiro:


The choice is yours whether to listen to christian basic truth or falsity.

elampiro:


....... And the Cardinals who have been trying to defend Pope Francis controversial interviews now confronting him after the Synod. It's the Synod. People lost trust in the church via the Synod- CNN, Yahoo, etc. Where we never saw MDM.

Listen to Bishops and Priests all around he world since the Synod.

Blame it on MDM.

Syncan:
Elampiro, do read the Pope's speech at the end of the synod here.

http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2014/10/18/pope_francis_speech_at_the_conclusion_of_the_synod/1108944

Do not castigate any man by hear say and rumors...yeah, and false prophesy.

Syncan:



Cardinal kersper is not the church, he is not even the Pope. He has a right to his opinion, for even in seeking to do good, one may be wrong, I cannot judge his intention. But I trust God to raise up those who will speak the truth. Is it strange for you now that the devil is found where the children of God are gathered? I thought I had told you to read scriptures. It happened in Job and in the Gospels too.

Syncan:


"Taboos fell at the Synod; long forbidden topics were brought up such as Communion for the divorced and remarried, celibacy and the priest shortage. Frank discussions followed. The pope himself seemed uncertain of his point of view. "None of us has a ready-made solution, because each person’s situation is different,” the pope said. “I would say that a particularly painful situation is that of those who were married in the church, but were not really believers and did so just for tradition, and then finding themselves in a new, invalid marriage, they convert, find the faith and feel excluded from the sacrament,” he said. "In response to concerns from some bishops that a section from the first draft of the message concerning divorced and civilly remarried Catholics was potentially ambiguous on the church’s teaching on marriage, the language has been revised in several places."
The Vatican official said that given the ambiguity of the concept of "homosexuality," meaning the difficulty of providing a precise definition of the term, an "absolute policy" is impossible.

Do you know that the Pope mentioned here by this reporter John Allen, is the emeritus Pope Benedict XVI ? And that the synod in question is the synod of 2005 on the Eucharist? Not everything started with Pope Francis as MDM wants you to believe.

elampiro:


I have read this before. It is empty.

The gospel is clear. It's not about striking compromise between truth and falsity. A true Pope defends the truth.

Syncan:


Yesoooo, Only the truth will set one free. The truth as revealed by God via His church, "the pillar and foundation of truth", not any false prophet like the one you follow.

elampiro:


Kapser told us his proposal was instigated buy Pope Francis. Pope Francis also applauded Kapser's speech proposing communion for the divorce. Francis described it as one of best form of Theology. In another interview, Pope Francis admitted being on the side of the liberals calling for reforms (change in doctrines) while stating his opposition with the traditionalists.

Syncan:


If the Galatians were to behave like you, they will call Peter anti-Christ, for Paul their evangelist, had confronted Peter (Gal 2:11-14). And Paul was right while Peter wasn't right. But they listened to the Church, and the truth set them free, they were not in the bondage that you've put yourself by listening to false prophets and not the church.

Syncan:



Pharisee! Tell me the truth outside Jesus statement to zachaeus Lk 19:5, tell me the truth outside His statement at those who wanted to stone the woman caught in adultery Jn 8:7, tell me the truth outside He who "eats with sinners and tax collectors" Mk 2:15, and I will tell you how deep in falsehood you swim.

Its about people like you the Pope wrote about those who want "...also to transform the bread into a stone and cast it against the sinners, the weak, and the sick (cf Jn 8:7), that is, to transform it into unbearable burdens (Lk 11:46)".

Poor you.

elampiro:


This was another Synod I followed. Everything went well and Pope Benedict did not equivocate. He didn't at any point left anyone in doubt as to his stance on church teachings. He defended the church teachings. Whenever clarification was sought as to any statement he made, he clarified. Cardinals were at home with him.

Syncan:



Any person reading this will see how obsessed you've become with condemning Pope francis, this is the effect of your sedes vacantism and MDM worship. Times without number i have given you example with peter in scriptures, but you seem to need his head on a pallet you herodias. Listen to the church!

Syncan:


I refrain from joining you in analyzing Popes the way you're going, so I'll rather leave you to your ignorance...or outright lie.

elampiro:


Peter always stood on tradition.

Bergoglio 'Who am I to judge' is fighting against the church teachings and tradition. He is dismantling the church as was foretold.

Peter and Paul rebuked sin, Bergoglio told bishops and priests not to preach about sins- abortion and homosexuality.

elampiro:


I can never listen to any Pope (Francis) telling the bishops to stop preaching about homosexuality and abortion. I can't listen to a Pope who clearly wants to change the teachings of the church. I can't listen to a Pope who refused to condemn sin.

Pope Francis in his 18 months rule has never condemned homosexuality. Instead he clearly wants to change the church teaching on it.

elampiro:


Pope Benedict issued a clear statement defending the church teaching on homosexuality.

Syncan:


Lies Lies Lies. "As was foretold" false prophets...I said they'll drive you crazy. The synod has ended, the church still standing by her teachings. Shame on MDM and her followers. There isn't anything else to hold on to except lies.

elampiro:


Did you ever read that Jesus told the adulterous woman to go and sin no more?

Jesus converted the sinners. He didn't accept people living in sinful lifestyle to continue living in sinful lifestyle. Jesus did not condone such.

Syncan:


At this point I will ask you to quote the Church teaching on homosexuality.

elampiro:


Are you an illiterate? The Synod has not ended. The midterm Synod ended, there will be a larger Synod (ordinary Synod) next year where the Issue of homosexuality, communion for the divorce and cohabitation will be finalized as instructed by Bergoglio. According to Synod rule, the three controversial issues which did not pass super majority ought to have being deleted and the Pope issued his defence on them, but Pope Francis vetoed them into next year Synod. Now the liberals are already boasting for a revolution.

It's a shame to Bergoglio. He is dragging the church in the mud in matters the scripture is clear about.

Syncan:

At this point I will ask you to quote the Church teaching on homosexuality.

elampiro:


The church did not say people can join the church and keep practicing their gayism. The Cardinals reiterated this, and even Cardinal Burke the head of Canon Law court, said what those manipulating the Synod (Francis, Kasper and cohort) prop0sed are against the church teachings.


Use your brain man. If the church teaching welcomed gay act, why is their a Synod to re welcome it? Mr. Man, the church is against homosexual acts 100%.

Syncan:


I maintain, I will not join you in your ignominious past time.

Syncan:



bla bla bla... What is the Church teaching on homosexuality?

elampiro:


You have nothing to say.

Pope Benedict ruled for 25 years, I did not hear any controversial issue on morals. Benedict did not set Cardinals against Cardinals, he always clarified any prior ambiguity. Francis has only ruled for 18 months and he is already on record to be the worst Pope in the church's history.

elampiro:


The church is against homosexuality. The bible is against homosexuality. I don't know which church you attend. Are you an homo? What is you interest in this?

Syncan:



Hahahaha, now he is shifting to the general synod. He has lost all sense of decency to know that the Holy Spirit that ensured the church is marching on mid way, will see it to the end. Oh man of no faith. Now he is claiming synod rule which he cannot prove. Lies Lies Lies.

Syncan:


Your lies are becoming embarrassing.

elampiro:




This is why I said you are an illiterate. Pope Francis said in an interview just before the Synod that the world should not expect any changes in this Synod. That this was an initial push (for his agenda).