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Why Did Jesus Come??? by johnydon22(m): 12:59pm On Nov 26, 2014
What we know today is that the creation story in genesis is just a jewish myth copied from that of mesopothomia, and genetics have proved the story to be impossible. . . so if adam and eve are not real, then their was never an original sin, and if their was no original sin, remind me again why Jesus came?
Re: Why Did Jesus Come??? by italo: 2:14pm On Nov 26, 2014
johnydon22:
What we know today is that the creation story in genesis is just a jewish myth copied from that of mesopothomia, and genetics have proved the story to be impossible. . . so if adam and eve are not real, then their was never an original sin, and if their was no original sin, remind me again why Jesus came?

First things first, prove the bold. smiley
Re: Why Did Jesus Come??? by Nobody: 2:46pm On Nov 26, 2014
Yeshua / Jesus came to defeat satan by leaving a sinless life and came to show as an example of how huuman beings should leave and he came to fulfil the scriptures and he also came to collect the keys of the underworld ..he came to free those souls who were locked there !souls eg Moses ,David and all those who didn't have the chance to go to shamayim /heaven physically like Enoch and eliyah!
Re: Why Did Jesus Come??? by Ymodulus: 3:01pm On Nov 26, 2014
italo:

First things first, prove the bold. smiley

Proofs that Genesis 1 is nothing but a text-book photocopied version of Ancient Myths are numerous and cannot be over captioned.



Ma the above is called Enumaelish found by some archealogists and when examined the most striking thing about this piece is that a lot of stories in Genesis 1 were copied from this Piece. Ma do not say its the other way round( the text on the piece were copied from Genesis 1) No it can never be, as the piece as ben subjected to series of carbon - dating test and its age is over 200yeas older than the bible.

Italo is this a coincidence?



That been said, now to the poster. Jesus coming had no relevance. Christians and Religionist will say he came to save the world or die for me and you. These are pure lies. Jesus was just a Pseudo- Comic character, what amazes me is why he isnt used in heroic cartoons likes of BatMan, Superman etc

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Re: Why Did Jesus Come??? by fhunn: 3:54pm On Nov 26, 2014
Ymodulus:


Proofs that Genesis 1 is nothing but a text-book photocopied version of Ancient Myths are numerous and cannot be over captioned.



Ma the above is called Enumaelish found by some archealogists and when examined the most striking thing about this piece is that a lot of stories in Genesis 1 were copied from this Piece. Ma do not say its the other way round( the text on the piece were copied from Genesis 1) No it can never be, as the piece as ben subjected to series of carbon - dating test and its age is over 200yeas older than the bible.

Italo is this a coincidence?



That been said, now to the poster. Jesus coming had no relevance. Christians and Religionist will say he came to save the world or die for me and you. These are pure lies. Jesus was just a Pseudo- Comic character, what amazes me is why he isnt used in heroic cartoons likes of BatMan, Superman etc

What if the date of the first bible is wrong? What if they backdated the dates of the manuscripts?
Hey! I'm not saying I'm correct/wrong and you're wrong/correct but this is a case of 'what ifs' and yes we can't really trust those carrying out the experiments and those who are giving us these 'facts' even though they have Ph.d's, Msc's, Bsc's and years of experience coupled with vast knowledge, we can't fully rely on their infos.
Re: Why Did Jesus Come??? by Ymodulus: 4:34pm On Nov 26, 2014
fhunn:


What if the date of the first bible is wrong? What if they backdated the dates of the manuscripts?
Hey! I'm not saying I'm correct/wrong and you're wrong/correct but this is a case of 'what ifs' and yes we can't really trust those carrying out the experiments and those who are giving us these 'facts' even though they have Ph.d's, Msc's, Bsc's and years of experience coupled with vast knowledge, we can't fully rely on their infos.
Are you trying to be AGNOSTIC about the whole issue? Let me let you know that these have been verified by source ( s ), credible and worthy enough
Re: Why Did Jesus Come??? by johnydon22(m): 7:43pm On Nov 26, 2014
italo:


First things first, prove the bold. smiley

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Re: Why Did Jesus Come??? by Adwexky(m): 8:19pm On Nov 26, 2014
Many people have said or view the things of God in this same magnitude before your existence, and how I wish you can have the glimpse of their imminent situation and pertaining to the coming of Jesus Christ, Bro. Jesus will certainly come but I pray he doesn't meet you in this state of IGNORANCE.
Note: Never You View The Things Of God from a mere human perspective 'cos that approach is devoid of Real Understanding Of God.
1 Corinthians 2:14 (NKJV) But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.



**God Bless!**
Ymodulus:


Proofs that Genesis 1 is nothing but a text-book photocopied version of Ancient Myths are numerous and cannot be over captioned.



Ma the above is called Enumaelish found by some archealogists and when examined the most striking thing about this piece is that a lot of stories in Genesis 1 were copied from this Piece. Ma do not say its the other way round( the text on the piece were copied from Genesis 1) No it can never be, as the piece as ben subjected to series of carbon - dating test and its age is over 200yeas older than the bible.

Italo is this a coincidence?



That been said, now to the poster. Jesus coming had no relevance. Christians and Religionist will say he came to save the world or die for me and you. These are pure lies. Jesus was just a Pseudo- Comic character, what amazes me is why he isnt used in heroic cartoons likes of BatMan, Superman etc
Re: Why Did Jesus Come??? by italo: 10:29pm On Nov 26, 2014
Ymodulus:


Proofs that Genesis 1 is nothing but a text-book photocopied version of Ancient Myths are numerous and cannot be over captioned.



Ma the above is called Enumaelish found by some archealogists and when examined the most striking thing about this piece is that a lot of stories in Genesis 1 were copied from this Piece. Ma do not say its the other way round( the text on the piece were copied from Genesis 1) No it can never be, as the piece as ben subjected to series of carbon - dating test and its age is over 200yeas older than the bible.

Italo is this a coincidence?



That been said, now to the poster. Jesus coming had no relevance. Christians and Religionist will say he came to save the world or die for me and you. These are pure lies. Jesus was just a Pseudo- Comic character, what amazes me is why he isnt used in heroic cartoons likes of BatMan, Superman etc

First things first, you believe everything the archeologists are reported to have said about the Enuma elish and its age without ever seeing it...or the archeologists. Yes or no?
Re: Why Did Jesus Come??? by italo: 10:31pm On Nov 26, 2014
Ymodulus:

Are you trying to be AGNOSTIC about the whole issue? Let me let you know that these have been verified by source ( s ), credible and worthy enough

Who are the sources?

What makes them credible and infallible?
Re: Why Did Jesus Come??? by Ymodulus: 6:26am On Nov 27, 2014
italo:


First things first, you believe everything the archeologists are reported to have said about the Enuma elish and its age without ever seeing it...or the archeologists. Yes or no?

You believe everything the bible say without seeing it?

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Re: Why Did Jesus Come??? by justaqad(m): 7:05am On Nov 27, 2014
italo:


First things first, you believe everything the archeologists are reported to have said about the Enuma elish and its age without ever seeing it...or the archeologists. Yes or no?

whats your point exactly?
You believed scientist when they said we are constituted of millions of cells,even without seeing those cells with your bare eyes.
Atleast the manuscript is real and in safe keeping if you wanna scrutinize it the more.
Just make a request,unlike god that aint real.

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Re: Why Did Jesus Come??? by justaqad(m): 7:08am On Nov 27, 2014
italo:


Who are the sources?

What makes them credible and infallible?

the source is real and open for criticism unlike your god that is above questioning.
Just make a request you might get lucky your wished might be granted.
Wish you luck.
Re: Why Did Jesus Come??? by italo: 9:02am On Nov 27, 2014
Ymodulus:


You believe everything the bible say without seeing it?



Yes, because I have faith in the Church that gave me the Bible.

Now can you answer me?

You believe everything the archeologists are reported to have said about the Enuma elish and its age without ever seeing it...or the archeologists. Yes or no?

You have faith in the reporters. Yes or no?
Re: Why Did Jesus Come??? by italo: 9:05am On Nov 27, 2014
justaqad:


whats your point exactly?
You believed scientist when they said we are constituted of millions of cells,even without seeing those cells with your bare eyes.
Atleast the manuscript is real and in safe keeping if you wanna scrutinize it the more.
Just make a request,unlike god that aint real.

I dont know why you are so defensive. It's just a simple question. Answering it honestly wont kill you.

You believe everything the archeologists are reported to have said about the Enuma elish and its age without ever seeing it...or the archeologists. Yes or no?
Re: Why Did Jesus Come??? by italo: 9:14am On Nov 27, 2014
justaqad:


the source is real and open for criticism unlike your god that is above questioning.
Just make a request you might get lucky your wished might be granted.
Wish you luck.

Have you ever scrutinized the source or met them?

If not, how do you know they are real?

You just have great faith in what reporters tell you...then accuse others of blind faith?
Re: Why Did Jesus Come??? by justaqad(m): 10:22am On Nov 27, 2014
italo:


Have you ever scrutinized the source or met them?

If not, how do you know they are real?

You just have great faith in what reporters tell you...then accuse others of blind faith?

if i have any reason to doubt the archealogist the manual is there for scrutiny..
Unlike god that aint real
Re: Why Did Jesus Come??? by justaqad(m): 10:39am On Nov 27, 2014
italo:


I dont know why you are so defensive. It's just a simple question. Answering it honestly wont kill you.

You believe everything the archeologists are reported to have said about the Enuma elish and its age without ever seeing it...or the archeologists. Yes or no?


from a reliable and reputable source YES.
Re: Why Did Jesus Come??? by italo: 11:12am On Nov 27, 2014
justaqad:


if i have any reason to doubt the archealogist the manual is there for scrutiny..
Unlike god that aint real

Have you ever met the archeologists or seen the manual?

Just answer honestly. You wont die if you do.
Re: Why Did Jesus Come??? by italo: 11:15am On Nov 27, 2014
justaqad:


from a reliable and reputable source YES.

That is FAITH.

Why then do you quarrel me for believing what the Church tells me about God, since I consider the Church reliable and reputable.

We are all men of great FAITH. Believing without physical perception.

grin
Re: Why Did Jesus Come??? by justaqad(m): 3:17pm On Nov 27, 2014
italo:


That is FAITH.

Why then do you quarrel me for believing what the Church tells me about God, since I consider the Church reliable and reputable.

We are all men of great FAITH. Believing without physical perception.

grin

i dont need faith to know the archealogist made a finding and went through a lot to validate their findings.
Unlike the church
if by tomorrow there was an error,the archaelogist would acknowledge it and move.
Unlike the church.
If the archealogist were asked to prove the ancient manual is real,they will gladly do so,you dont need faith to see it.
Unlike the church
Re: Why Did Jesus Come??? by sukkot: 3:25pm On Nov 27, 2014
johnydon22:
What we know today is that the creation story in genesis is just a jewish myth copied from that of mesopothomia, and genetics have proved the story to be impossible. . . so if adam and eve are not real, then their was never an original sin, and if their was no original sin, remind me again why Jesus came?
he came to spiritually ressurect the prophets of old. keep in mind jesus is the word

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Re: Why Did Jesus Come??? by johnydon22(m): 3:46pm On Nov 27, 2014
sukkot:
he came to spiritually ressurect the prophets of old. keep in mind jesus is the word

so not to die for our sins
Re: Why Did Jesus Come??? by sukkot: 3:49pm On Nov 27, 2014
johnydon22:


so not to die for our sins
no he did not come to die for your sins. that is a myth created by people who either are purposely trying to mislead or just couldnt understand the bible themselves and put everyone down the wrong path
Re: Why Did Jesus Come??? by italo: 3:51pm On Nov 27, 2014
justaqad:


i dont need faith to know the archealogist made a finding and went through a lot to validate their findings.
Unlike the church
if by tomorrow there was an error,the archaelogist would acknowledge it and move.
Unlike the church.
If the archealogist were asked to prove the ancient manual is real,they will gladly do so
,you dont need faith to see it.
Unlike the church

You are exhibiting far more faith than many Christians!

You have never seen the archeologists (I bet you have never even seen any archeologist), you have never seen the Enuma elish.

Yet you miraculously know for sure that they went through a lot to validate their findings and will gladly prove it.

Wow!

You should be a prophet in your denomination of the Atheist religion.
Re: Why Did Jesus Come??? by fhunn: 4:09pm On Nov 27, 2014
Ymodulus:

Are you trying to be AGNOSTIC about the whole issue? Let me let you know that these have been verified by source ( s ), credible and worthy enough

agnostic ke? I believe there is God o and Jesus came to die for our sins.

Credible source(s)?? Tah!!
Since this is a controversial issue i will tell you that as much as you 'credit' that source, i discredit it!
Infact on all this biblical issues i discredit all sources against the bible cheesy why? Because those 'sources', those who make up those 'sources' can't be christians or rather don't believe in Jesus, they're those who are part of (religious) sects against christianity or they may even be atheists.

Think of it, those sources, are they more credible than the HOLY SPIRIT?

Why asking, when i know you might not believe in Jesus as the begotten Son of God and the one that died for our sins!
Re: Why Did Jesus Come??? by fhunn: 4:26pm On Nov 27, 2014
Ymodulus:

Are you trying to be AGNOSTIC about the whole issue? Let me let you know that these have been verified by source ( s ), credible and worthy enough

agnostic ke? I believe in Jesus o!


Credible and verified sources? Yes to you they are but to me they are not! Why? Because those 'sources', the personalities theat make up those 'sources' are members of (religious) sects that support anything but christianity.
How do i know? Check out those researchers, check and find out about their religion (and you will see that i am also verified source cheesy) but seriously when their religion are doing everything to wipe christianity, how will they, being in the position they are not comply to the 'sect'?

Think of it are they more verified than the Holy Spirit?

Ahn ahn, how can i be asking someone who doesn't believe that Jesus came and died for our sins and that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God?
Re: Why Did Jesus Come??? by AlfaSeltzer(m): 5:42pm On Nov 27, 2014
Why jesus came? i think miss magdalene had something to do with it. grin

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Re: Why Did Jesus Come??? by johnydon22(m): 6:05pm On Nov 27, 2014
sukkot:
no he did not come to die for your sins. that is a myth created by people who either are purposely trying to mislead or just couldnt understand the bible themselves and put everyone down the wrong path

sir please are you a christian
Re: Why Did Jesus Come??? by sukkot: 6:07pm On Nov 27, 2014
johnydon22:


sir please are you a christian
yes
Re: Why Did Jesus Come??? by johnydon22(m): 6:09pm On Nov 27, 2014
sukkot:
yes

am very curious, i am wondering how you learnt your own that Jeus didnt come to die for our sin
Re: Why Did Jesus Come??? by sukkot: 6:13pm On Nov 27, 2014
johnydon22:


am very curious, i am wondering how you learnt your own that Jeus didnt come to die for our sin
its in the bible. matthew 15 vs 24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. <<< SENT ONLY TO THE LOST PROPHETS OF OLD WHO ARE LOST SPIRITUALLY. LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL. HE CAME TO REVIVE THEM

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