Elparaiso:
Hey Joseph, are you still there?

malvisguy212:
those who died before the coming of jesus are judge base on there work, the book of revelation made this clear.

joseph1013:
IT'S NOT FAIR--STOP MOCKING US!

A theist recently complained that I mock religious views. She said, "You're entitled to your beliefs but I find it strange that if you don't want people mocking yours that you spent so much time mocking other people." Here is my reply:

I would be delighted if you would mock my beliefs. Have a ball! We need more fun in the world. People taking their beliefs too seriously leads to much tragedy and sadness.

Just one thing though--make sure you know what I believe before you start mocking. I rarely talk about my beliefs and not believing in a god is not a belief (the clue is in the words--not believing).

So I'll give you one of my beliefs to start you off. I believe electric, self-driving cars will become ubiquitous over the next 25 years or so. They will make our roads safer, reduce our dependence on fossil fuels and spawn whole new industries (as well as shaking up old ones).

Now, I'll sit back and await your mockery. Problem is, this belief is just not as funny as believing a Jewish Rabbi who died 2,000 years ago will soon come back to life. Or believing there's an invisible man who wants all men to cut off their foreskins and watches everyone take a shit.

joseph1013:
ISAAC NEWTON WAS A CHRISTIAN

adoyi8:


I recently read stephen hawking's A brief history of time. At the end of the book he wrote about some prominent scientists such as Einstein, Galileo and Isaac Newton, What he wrote about newton was bad it makes me wonder why christians see him as their scientist hero.

Here is what he wrote:



ISAAC NEWTON
Isaac Newton was not a pleasant man. His relations with other academics were notorious, with most of his later
life spent embroiled in heated disputes. Following publication of Principia Mathematica – surely the most
influential book ever written in physics – Newton had risen rapidly into public prominence. He was appointed
president of the Royal Society and became the first scientist ever to be knighted.
Newton soon clashed with the Astronomer Royal, John Flamsteed, who had earlier provided Newton with
much-needed data for Principia, but was now withholding information that Newton wanted. Newton would not
take no for an answer: he had himself appointed to the governing body of the Royal Observatory and then tried
to force immediate publication of the data. Eventually he arranged for Flamsteed’s work to be seized and
prepared for publication by Flamsteed’s mortal enemy, Edmond Halley. But Flamsteed took the case to court
and, in the nick of time, won a court order preventing distribution of the stolen work. Newton was incensed and
sought his revenge by systematically deleting all references to Flamsteed in later editions of Principia.
A more serious dispute arose with the German philosopher Gottfried Leibniz. Both Leibniz and Newton had
independently developed a branch of mathematics called calculus, which underlies most of modern physics.
Although we now know that Newton discovered calculus years before Leibniz, he published his work much
later. A major row ensued over who had been first, with scientists vigorously defending both contenders. It is
remarkable, however, that most of the articles appearing in defense of Newton were originally written by his
own hand – and only published in the name of friends! As the row grew, Leibniz made the mistake of appealing
to the Royal Society to resolve the dispute. Newton, as president, appointed an “impartial” committee to
investigate, coincidentally consisting entirely of Newton’s friends! But that was not all: Newton then wrote the
committee’s report himself and had the Royal Society publish it, officially accusing Leibniz of plagiarism. Still
unsatisfied, he then wrote an anonymous review of the report in the Royal Society’s own periodical. Following
the death of Leibniz, Newton is reported to have declared that he had taken great satisfaction in “breaking
Leibniz’s heart.”
During the period of these two disputes, Newton had already left Cambridge and academe. He had been active
in anti-Catholic politics at Cambridge, and later in Parliament, and was rewarded eventually with the lucrative
post of Warden of the Royal Mint. Here he used his talents for deviousness and vitriol in a more socially
acceptable way, successfully conducting a major campaign against counterfeiting, even sending several men to
their death on the gallows.

joseph1013:
MY BEST FRIEND THE SERIAL KILLER

If you worship God and consider him to be your best friend, you should be aware that your best friend (if he exists) is a serial killer.

I have written before about the death toll from God's own murderous acts and from the orders to kill he gave to others. Those deaths amount to around 25 million people.

But some people say, I'm not being fair. I'm only taking one side of the story. What about the kind, loving things God did? What kind, loving things God did? Here is a challenge to you. Find me a SINGLE kind, loving thing God did. Just one.

And don't say he sent his son to be a human sacrifice to himself (John 3:16), I can't count demanding a human sacrifice as a kind, loving act.

And nor can you.

Elparaiso:


You know, if you forget his omnipotence and omnipresence for a second, he helped Moses heal the Israelites when snakes bit them.


You'll also have to forget that he sent the venomous snakes in the first place, but it's all good.

joseph1013:
Hi friends, I don't even know if I can follow through with this and continue infinitely like I would love to do.

BEEN FOLLOWING SINCE DAY ONE BUT NEVER HAD THE CHANCE TO READ THROUGH.. 2000+ POSTS AND STILL COUNTING, WHEN WILL I FINISH READING IF I START NEXT MONTH?

YOU'VE DONE GOOD HERE BTW.

joseph1013:



One of the many interesting things about theists is their many assumptions of atheists. Like they do about almost things, they think they know all the reasons atheists do what they do, EXCEPT the reasons atheists themselves give.

Why should we seek the validation of religionists? And how does religion leave a vacuum. You have no idea the freedom being without appealing to a Sky-daddy gives.

I can experience the wonder of studying the strata of the earth, fossils, the evolutionary tree, the coalescing of interstellar dust into stars and planets, and human and animal psychology. I can delight in how the pieces of the puzzle fit together, rather than attributing it all to a magical creation event, which, in its attempt to explain everything, explains only what God did in his inscrutable ways, not how or why he might have done it.

It's fascinating and gratifying to explore why we are plagued with parasites, why men are more eager to have sex than women, why men are more prone to violence than women, why babies have a grasping instinct, why we have toenails, why we crave sweet and fatty foods and become obese, why we gossip, why trees bear fruit, why attractive and fragrant flowers exist, why birds sing, and why there are so many human languages.

Pondering the evolutionary underpinnings of these phenomena is far more satisfying than reading about a talking serpent in a garden or about the Tower of Babel or hearing, "That's just the way God made it." Perhaps it's due to my inquisitive nature, but I've always been more fascinated by "why" and "how" questions than "what" questions.

joseph1013:

What does the Qur'an say about this? 18:86 says, "Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of black muddy (or hot) water. And he found near it a people."

The Qur'an says the sun travels around the Earth and spends it's nights resting in muddy water on Earth.

The Qur'an tells us the stars and galaxies are lamps in the LOWEST heaven, placed there because they look nice and to protect the Earth against devils.

if there is a God who created the universe, it is unthinkable that he could have made such elementary errors. These errors show categorically that no God was involved in the writing of the Qur'an.

LOL..
IF MUHAMMAD HAD CLAIMED THE SUN SETS IN HIS POCKETS 21ST CENTURY ĮDIOTS WOULD ARGUE IT IS TRUE.