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Re: Jesus Son Of Man ? {let The Bible Speak} by Empiree: 6:57pm On Feb 21, 2015
malvisguy212:
you have two option;
1.provide the injil and let the viewers see it (or)
2.remain silent.
Lol, you tell me first which version of your bibles Jesus preached exactly. Then we start from there. Which one because you got different versions with obvious contradictions. Which one you want to use...which one?
Re: Jesus Son Of Man ? {let The Bible Speak} by malvisguy212: 7:04pm On Feb 21, 2015
Empiree:
Lol, you tell me first which version of your bibles Jesus preached exactly. Then we start from there. Which one because you got different versions with obvious contradictions. Which one you want to use...which one?
dint you say the injil is not the bible? You are the one needed to be worried because the injil Allah reffer you to is no where to be found meaning Allah fail to guide his word as promise in the quran.
Re: Jesus Son Of Man ? {let The Bible Speak} by Empiree: 7:19pm On Feb 21, 2015
malvisguy212:
dint you say the injil is not the bible? You are the one needed to be worried because the injil Allah reffer you to is no where to be found meaning Allah fail to guide his word as promise in the quran.
#yeyeman. Do you have any proof that Injil translated as Gospel by English man was recorded in the lifetime of Jesus?.

You see your argument is invalid as long as you have Bible according to everything except Jesus. One Gospel which seems different from chronicles is that of Barnabas...said to be "blind follower" of Jesus.
Re: Jesus Son Of Man ? {let The Bible Speak} by nortcentrallord(m): 8:17pm On Feb 21, 2015
Empiree:
Lol, you think Qur'an is talking about your corrupted Book? hell no.
Hihihihihihih, so what book is he talking about? @ least I was constructive and objective but since u got no proof, u result to cheap verbal violence like your woman intoxicated lowlife and demented prophet mohammed. Any reasonable human of 21st century will know mohammed was a confused man. Until the Pope wakes up one day and asks all Christians to kill unbelievers (muslims,) then you guys will see how truly a small sect you are. Without religion, simple morals guide humans life but your blood thirsty and inferiority infested mohammed defies all morals in his so called hadith. What kind of prophet preaches that God asks his followers to fight for him. That's a cheap, confused and pussy eating prophet. Hadith is getting you confused. And you will probably wallow in it till u end up in hell. I pity your life.
Re: Jesus Son Of Man ? {let The Bible Speak} by malvisguy212: 8:47pm On Feb 21, 2015
Empiree:
#yeyeman. Do you have any proof that Injil translated as Gospel by English man was recorded in the lifetime of Jesus?.

You see your argument is invalid as long as you have Bible according to everything except Jesus. One Gospel which seems different from chronicles is that of Barnabas...said to be blind "follower" of Jesus.
thank you for the insult.
In the Qur'an, Christians are referred to
as the people of the book,if it not the bible,then which book it is?

surah 5:47,48a
It was We who revealed the Law (to
Moses): therein was guidance and light.
By its standard have been judged the
Jews, by the Prophets who bowed (as in
Islam) to God's Will, by the Rabbis and
the Doctors of Law: For to them was
entrusted the protection of God's Book,
and they were witnesses thereto:
Therefore fear not men, but fear Me, and
sell not my Signs for a miserable price. If
any do fail to judge by (the light of) what
God hath revealed, they are (no better
than) Unbelievers. We ordained therein
for them: "Life for life, eye for eye, nose
for nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and
wounds equal for equal."....

From this quotation it can be seen that
the holy Koran highly esteems the Tawrat ("guidance and light"wink, and as having been revealed by Allah. Also a quotation from the Tawrat is given, which seems to be from Exodus 21:23-25,
" But if there is serious injury, you are to
take life for life, eye for eye, tooth for
tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn
for burn, wound for wound, bruise for
bruise. (Ex. 21:23-25)"
Re: Jesus Son Of Man ? {let The Bible Speak} by Empiree: 9:30pm On Feb 21, 2015
Explanation of Sura 10:94

There are two explanation of this Verse

Many Christians claims that Quran Surah 10:94 tells Muslims to ask People of Book i:e Christians and Jews if they are in doubt about Quran.
Quran 10:94 states
"If you are in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt."

From all of the context they just pick up this verse saying that Muslims should ask People of Book if they are in Doubt. Well let us read the whole passage.

Surah 10:90
We took the Children of Israel across the sea: Pharaoh and his hosts followed them in insolence and spite. At length, when overwhelmed with the flood, he said: "I believe that there is no god except Him Whom the Children of Israel believe in: I am of those who submit (to Allah in Islam)."

Surah 10:91
(It was said to him): "Ah now!- But a little while before, wast thou in rebellion!- and thou didst mischief (and violence)!

Surah 10:92
"This day shall We save thee in the body, that thou mayest be a sign to those who come after thee! but verily, many among mankind are heedless of Our Signs!"

Surah 10:93
We settled the Children of Israel in a beautiful dwelling-place, and provided for them sustenance of the best: it was after knowledge had granted to them, that they fell into schisms. Verily Allah will judge between them as to the schisms amongst them, on the Day of Judgment.

Surah 10:94
If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt.

From Reading the above Passages we can conclude that Allah helped the People of Israel and saved them from Pharaoh. He showered His blessings upon the People of Israel and settled them in a beautiful place of Jerusalem. Yet they fell into groups and worked against Allah's order and were arrogant.
This is the mischief that Quran says to be asked by People of the Book. And thus, this mischief are also a part of Bible.


Moreover another explanation of this verse is according to Sami Zaatri is that
The Quran makes it clear that Muhammad (AS) is prophesised in the previous scripture:
"Those who follow the messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures),- in the law and the Gospel;- for he commands them what is just and forbids them what is evil; he allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them from what is bad (and impure); He releases them from their heavy burdens and from the yokes that are upon them. So it is those who believe in him, honour him, help him, and follow the light which is sent down with him,- it is they who will prosper." (7:157)

Ibn Jarir at-Tabari (d.311 A.H.-923 A.D.) comments on the verse: "God says to His Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) that if you are in doubt about the truthfulness of what We told you in Revelations - that the children of Israel had not differed concerning your prophet hood before you were sent by God as an Apostle to His people, for they found you prophesied in their scripture, and they knew you from the description of you given in the Torah and Injil - you must confer with those who read the sacred book before you, that is, the people of the Torah and the people of the Gospel, such as Abdullah Ibn Salam and those who, like him, were honest and had faith in you: do not ask those who are dishonest or are unbelievers." (At-Tabari, Jami', vol. II, p. 115)


At-Tabari reported Ibn Abbas as saying that the book referred to in the verse was the Torah and the Gospel; the people with whom Muhammad (peace be upon him) was commanded to confer were those who lived in Muhammad's time and believed in him. The Prophet was to turn to them if questions as to the foretelling of his own prophet hood in those books arose. The only object of possible doubt was then Muhammad (peace be upon him) himself, and the people with whom he was to confer were restricted to those who believed in his mission.Furthermore, Muhammad (peace be upon him) had been prophesied in the scriptures - Jewish and Christian - but these prophecies had been denied by the majority of Jews and Christians except for those who had come to accept that such prophecies were truthful and had become Muslim.

So this is the context of Surah 10:94, it has all to do with asking the people of scripture about the advent of Muhammad (AS) found within the Bible.

Now some Christians and Jews will say that ? Well Muhammad is not in the Bible', well if they do say that then all that proves is that the Bible is corrupt!
The Quran states that the prophet Muhammad is in the Bible, if he is not according to what they say, then this cannot be the same Bible that the Quran is referring to. As they so often say, you can't have your cake and eat.


And, no prophet Muhammad peace be upon him and muslims are not in doubt of Quran. Quran and hadith confirmed this:

Surah 7:158

Say: O people! surely I am the Apostle of Allah to you all, of Him Whose is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth there is no god but He; He brings to life and causes to die therefore believe in Allah and His apostle, the Ummi Prophet who believes in Allah and His words, and follow him so that you may walk in the right way.

Surah 42:15

To this then go on inviting, and go on steadfastly on the right way as you are commanded, and do not follow their low desires, and say: I believe in what Allah has revealed of the Book, and I am commanded to do justice between you: Allah is our Lord and your Lord; we shall have our deeds and you shall have your deeds; no plea need there be (now) between us and you: Allah will gather us together, and to Him is the return.

Surah 49:15

The believers are only those who truly believe in ALLAH and HIS Messenger, and then doubt not, but strive with their possessions and their persons in the cause of ALLAH. It is they who are truthful.

Surah 2:285

The apostle believes in what has been revealed to him from his Lord, and (so do) the believers; they all believe in Allah and His angels and His books and His apostles; We make no difference between any of His apostles; and they say: We hear and obey, our Lord! Thy forgiveness (do we crave), and to Thee is the eventual course.

Book 001, Number 0041:

He (the narrator) said: At that time he (the Holy Prophet) said: I bear testimony to the fact that there is no god but Allah, and I am His messenger. The bondsman who would meet Allah without entertaining any doubt about these (two fundamentals) would enter heaven.

Since the Qur'an and hadith make it clear that the Prophet peace be upon him and believers didn't, shouldn't and wouldn't have any doubts about their faith.
Re: Jesus Son Of Man ? {let The Bible Speak} by promise10: 6:01pm On Feb 05, 2016
Jesus is God in the likeness of men dwelling among men. Now, see the proofs that Mohammed is demon possessed prophet who has unfortunately deceived billions of people but thanks to Jesus who is revealing himself to many muslims including Islamic terrorists through dreams(just as it happened to paul who was the most radical christian persecutor at his own time)that has made them converted to the divine relationship with Jesus.
See for yourself and judge!
Death
Jesus died and rose from the dead.
Muhammad died and stayed dead.
Fighting
Jesus never fought.
Muhammad fought many many times.
Hearing from God
When Jesus heard from God, He went to the desert
to be tempted and began His ministry with
boldness. (Mark 1:14-15).
When Muhammad heard from God (supposedly
through an angel), he cowered, was uncertain, and
wanted to commit suicide. (Quran 74:1-5).
Identity
Jesus claimed to be God (John 8:24,8:58) as well as
a man.
Jesus claimed to be the way, the truth, and the life.
(John 14:6).
Muhammad claimed to be a man.
Instructions Received
Jesus received from God the Father (John 5:19).
Mohammad allegedly from an angel.
Killing
Jesus never killed anyone.
Muhammad killed many.
Life
Jesus had the power to take life but never did. He
restored it.
Muhammad had the power to take it, but he never
restored it. No one ever died in Jesus'
presence.Many people died in Muhammad's
presence--he killed them.
Marriage
Jesus never married.
Muhammad had over 20 wives and even married a
nine-year-old girl.
Ministry
Jesus received His calling from God directly. (Matt.
3:17).Jesus received His commission in the
daylight.
Muhammad allegedly received it from an angel
(Gabriel).Muhammad received his words in the
darkness of a cave.
Ministry Length
Jesus taught for 3 1/2 years.
Muhammad taught for more than 20 years.
Miracles
Jesus performed many miracles including healing
people, calming a storm with a command, and
raising people from the dead.
Muhammad's only alleged miracle was the Quran.
Prophecy
Jesus fulfilled Biblical prophecy about being the
Messiah.
Muhammad did not fulfill any Biblical prophecy
except the ones about false teachers (Matt. 24:24).
Sacrifice
Jesus voluntarily laid his life down for others.
Muhammad saved his own life many times and had
others killed.
SinJesus never sinned. (1 Pet. 2:22).
Muhammad was a sinner. (Quran 40:55, 48:1-2).
Slaves
Jesus owned no slaves.
Muhammad owned slaves.
Virgin Birth
Jesus was virgin born.
Muhammad was not virgin born.
Voice of God
Jesus received and heard the direct voice of God.
(Mark 1:10-11).
Muhammad did not receive or hear the direct voice
of God. It was an angel instead.
Women
Jesus spoke well of women.
Muhammad said that women were 1/2 as smart as
men (Hadith 3:826, 2:541) and that majority in hell
will be women (Had. 1:28, 301, 2:161, 7:124) and
that women could be mortgaged.
Our relationship with GOD.
Muhammed claimed that we are slaves to ALLAH.
Jesus said; but as many as receive him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them to them that believe on his name(john 1:12)
Trinity.
Muhammed claimed that the trinity in the Bible is false as he said they are God(Allah that he is not a father to us but MASTER and we are his SLAVES), Jesus(a prophet of ALLAH and not the son of God)and Mary(the mother of Jesus), but his assertions are false as his is demon possessed and of the flesh as christ said; that which is born of the flesh is of the flesh; and that which is born of the spirit is of the spirit(john 3:6).
Jesus claimed the trinity are God(A father to us- not just as our earthly father who need a wife because he(God) is self sufficient), Himself(Jesus the son of God i.e God himself humble himself to make himself flesh and born of a virgin without intercourse but by the power of the spirit of truth to save man for the reward of Sins which is death- that's why he died in place of the whole world though he was without sin ), and the holyspirit( the spirit of truth that he promised to send to us and the spirit of truth shall teach us all thing, which he later sent few day after his ascension)
BEWARE! BEWARE!! BEWARE!!!; Any person who tells you that the spirit of truth is the mohammed, must be from the pit of hell and of the devil, because mohammed is not a spirit, as he died of fever at the age of 63 and stayed away and nobody knows where he went to as he cannot go to heaven after committing so many atrocities, but christ who was crucified for the redemption of man died and on the third day resurrected lived with men for 40days before ascending into heaven(which Quran confirmed his ascension) and promised us the holyspirit(spirit of truth)that will live in us forever(of which mohammed cannot live in man because he is not a spirit) and be our comforted forever
THINK ABOUT IT, READ INFORMATIONS ABOUT HIM ON THE INTERNET TO KNOW WHO IS JESUS AND. MAKE HIM YOUR LORD, FOR PAUL SAID: And if christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also in vain(1cor.15:14)
CHRIST ALONE IS LORD!!

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