Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,152,317 members, 7,815,591 topics. Date: Thursday, 02 May 2024 at 02:59 PM

Obamas Stance On Islam - Islam for Muslims - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Religion / Islam for Muslims / Obamas Stance On Islam (3699 Views)

What Are We To Make Of Seun’s Comment On Islam / The Answer Of A German Muslim Scholar On Islam And Terrorism *worth D Read* / Hoaxes And Fabrications On Islam And Muslims (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) (4) (Reply) (Go Down)

Obamas Stance On Islam by Frizy(m): 1:13pm On Jan 06, 2009
As Barack Obama sits silent as Israel drops bombs on innocents and cowers afraid to fight man to man on the ground and the American liberal community seeks to create a new sense of liberal fascism whereby they will witness the privitization of their infrastructure, decreasing quality of life for the middle and lower classes,  austerity programs for social services, and rapid military build-up alongside continuous expansive and imperialist wars (sounds like Nationalist Socialism) and the great hope they elected turns into the biggest hypocrite of all time - we send a clear and direct message to the slew of hypocrites that voted for him and are still hopeful that the CHANGE he will bring will in some way prove to be just,  GUESS WHAT - Barack Obama told you a long time ago he was a despicable, house slave that cares for nothing other than chanting slogans and smiling at cameras to get elected. He represents a continuation of American Neo-Fascism and a new wave that will inspire the countless thousands of American exesitentialist, liberal fascists that think their country can do no wrong and represents all the good in the world. This speech should prove to you how insane this idiot is. We'll keep you posted on his plans, but in the meantime this one goes out to all the Muslim buffoons that voted for him - You had your information early but you blindly follow the mainstream - Want News? REVOLUTIONMUSLIM -  May Allah send destruction on this kaffir - embarass him - and make him the laughing stock of American History - the only President to bankrupt the dollar and the US. military in the same term. Amin!!!

Listen to his speech: http://www.npr.org/templates/player/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=91150432&m=91152375
Re: Obamas Stance On Islam by Frizy(m): 1:21pm On Jan 06, 2009
When will the American government learn there is more to life than wars?
Re: Obamas Stance On Islam by babs787(m): 8:35pm On Jan 06, 2009
I knew that this guy is a devil in disguise and told those jubilating to watch out for this guy. I smelled rat when this guy went to the wailing wall to pay homage. sad
Re: Obamas Stance On Islam by ayinba1(f): 3:42am On Jan 07, 2009
salam my dear brothers,

Obama was the lesser of the two evils. McCain would have sent troops into Palestine by now to aid their Issraeli allies. Sadly, America is Israel's prostitute, even Obama will find it hard to change that.
Re: Obamas Stance On Islam by Frizy(m): 10:44am On Jan 07, 2009
ayinba1:

salam my dear brothers,

Obama was the lesser of the two evils. McCain would have sent troops into Palestine by now to aid their Issraeli allies. Sadly, America is Israel's prostitute, even Obama will find it hard to change that.


My sister, that's not the argument. What we're saying is there is none of the two, McCain or Obama that you should have voted for. Look, Obama was bold enough to say Jerusalem will not be shared between Palestine and Israel. What Bush or McCain never ever said while in office or during their campaign. Obama is a bloody Zionist!
Re: Obamas Stance On Islam by ayinba1(f): 3:08pm On Jan 07, 2009
@Frizy,

What do you propose that we do? In a society where muslims are being targeted with Privacy Act, unauthorised wiretaps etc, one candidate says "I will continue with this practice", the other said " I will put an end to this". Is the solution really for us to remain aloof from making an impact in what will affect our lives(religion) in a society we dwell in?

My question is what exactly do you propose?

McCain is not smart enough about Middle East affairs and he would have committed a blunder if he had wanted to make any statement about Palestine/Israeli conflict. Are you even bothered at all that he wanted to "bomb, bomb, bomb Iran"
Re: Obamas Stance On Islam by Frizy(m): 9:29am On Jan 08, 2009
ayinba1:

@Frizy,

What do you propose that we do? In a society where muslims are being targeted with Privacy Act, unauthorised wiretaps etc, one candidate says "I will continue with this practice", the other said " I will put an end to this". Is the solution really for us to remain aloof from making an impact in what will affect our lives(religion) in a society we dwell in?

While I understand the dilemma, Obama's aggression towards Muslims living outside the US is terrible. Even Bush did not speak like this, no US diplomate ever did!

My question is what exactly do you propose?

I just say don't vote for any. That will keep your heart at rest that you didn't vote for a Muslim hater.

McCain is not smart enough about Middle East affairs and he would have committed a blunder if he had wanted to make any statement about Palestine/Israeli conflict. Are you even bothered at all that he wanted to "bomb, bomb, bomb Iran"

Frankly, Muslim political analysts, recognize that McCain and Obama are not the idea candidate for the Muslims, however, they are saying McCain may have even been better. Did you hear that speech at all? Obama said he would bankrupt the Iranian economy, and make them deprived of everything, same to Lebanon. I repeat, George Bush as never said anything this strong in a speech known to the public, never! Some Muslims thought because Obama said he will take away troops from Iraq, that means the fool will focus more on his country's well-being. However, because the US is in control of Iraq but failed in Afghanistan- Obama thinks it is best to send troops back to Afghanistan to fight the mujaheddin. Whether we accept it or not, the mujaheddin have been the sole defense of Islam, and all those scholars who sit behind and call them the spoilers of Islam could never have won any soul into Islam if these guys didn't sacrifice. The plan of Obama and co. is to wipe Islam off the earth, but they wont. Allah instead would soon wipe them out.
Re: Obamas Stance On Islam by javalove(m): 7:05pm On Jan 08, 2009
Well, Allah knows best.

I was almost shedding tears watching Gaza on BBC. Children in hospitals, a girl with part of her head open shedding tears and creaming, many people dead.

Allah is watching. He;s surely watching.

Although they plan, Allah also plans and Allah is the best of planners !!!
Re: Obamas Stance On Islam by ayinba1(f): 2:20am On Jan 09, 2009
@Frizy

I don't know if the original post is your creation but I do pick an issue with the word "slave" in describing Obama. It smacks of a racist tone so I am thinking it originated from one our Arab brothers.

Are muslims going to be a minority sometimes? Yes! So your proposal that we should not vote at all is something I'd like you to explain Islamically. I want us to be very cautious with the way we analyse things.

It is completely shameful and appalling that obama has remained pretty much "mum" concerning Palestine (astaghfirulah if he did)but then he never said he was a muslim nor promised that he would fight Israel over Palestine.

Yeah though, religion and politics are closely intertwined, we need to still recognise political moves when we see them.

so Frizy, before I crucify obama, tell me what has the Saudi government/leadership done aout the Palestinian situation, or even about the sudan embarassment? and while they share the same bed with the US leaderhip. I ask these questions with the hope to get an insight from you as to what the Prophet of Allah(SAW) would do.

I have been where you are right now and I have, alhamduliillah, participated in islamic political discussions in nigeria,(not much in the US). May Allah continue to expand our horizons and increase our Iman (Amin)

And tell me, why are the "muslim nations" unable? or unwilling? to aid the weaker Islamic societies? surely, Allah has given us all the tools. we must be doing something(s) wrong.

tonite, I watched nbc news and the palestinian news that heaed the broadcast means things are way worse in palestine than being reported and the news was bad enough.

Let us not forget to pray for our muslim brothers and sisters, and let us try to do what Allah has prescribed, for then will we be truly victorious
Re: Obamas Stance On Islam by Nobody: 2:23am On Jan 09, 2009
what is it about Israel that every muslim hates? grin
Re: Obamas Stance On Islam by Nobody: 3:29am On Jan 09, 2009
ayinba1:

It is completely shameful and appalling that obama has remained pretty much "mum" concerning Palestine (astaghfirulah if he did)but then he never said he was a muslim nor promised that he would fight Israel over Palestine.

what is "shameful" about Obama's stance? There can only be one president at a time . . . bar going against Bush who is still by law the representative of the US . . . Obama can only echo Bush's stance which of course you hate.
Why dont you wait until Jan 20 before you decide whether to be appalled or not?

Besides was Obama elected president of the middle east? what is his business if HAMAS decides to martyr themselves? Where were you when HAMAS and Hezbollah said they were only interested in martyrdom? grin Abeg dont disturb them . . . let them go get their limited supply of virgins before demand outstrips supply.
Re: Obamas Stance On Islam by Nobody: 3:30am On Jan 09, 2009
javalove:

Well, Allah knows best.

I was almost shedding tears watching Gaza on BBC. Children in hospitals, a girl with part of her head open shedding tears and creaming, many people dead.

Allah is watching. He;s surely watching.

Although they plan, Allah also plans and Allah is the best of planners !!!

Were you shedding tears over your muslim "brethren" in Darfur too? grin

Allah must be sleeping right now because Gaza is now a hellhole. Wake him up.
Re: Obamas Stance On Islam by osisi3(f): 3:38am On Jan 09, 2009
Frizy:

As Barack Obama sits silent as Israel drops bombs on innocents and cowers afraid to fight man to man on the ground and the American liberal community seeks to create a new sense of liberal fascism whereby they will witness the privitization of their infrastructure, decreasing quality of life for the middle and lower classes,  austerity programs for social services, and rapid military build-up alongside continuous expansive and imperialist wars (sounds like Nationalist Socialism) and the great hope they elected turns into the biggest hypocrite of all time - we send a clear and direct message to the slew of hypocrites that voted for him and are still hopeful that the CHANGE he will bring will in some way prove to be just,  GUESS WHAT - Barack Obama told you a long time ago he was a despicable, house slave that cares for nothing other than chanting slogans and smiling at cameras to get elected. He represents a continuation of American Neo-Fascism and a new wave that will inspire the countless thousands of American exesitentialist, liberal fascists that think their country can do no wrong and represents all the good in the world. This speech should prove to you how insane this idiot is. We'll keep you posted on his plans, but in the meantime this one goes out to all the Muslim buffoons that voted for him - You had your information early but you blindly follow the mainstream - Want News? REVOLUTIONMUSLIM -  May Allah send destruction on this kaffir - embarass him - and make him the laughing stock of American History - the only President to bankrupt the dollar and the US. military in the same term. Amin!!!

Listen to his speech: http://www.npr.org/templates/player/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=91150432&m=91152375

As someone who prays for Obama and his upcoming administration with thousands and millions of Christians,may everything you wish him return to you a hundred fold not only to you but to your generations to come unless they come to the saving Grace of Christ.
You will surely flee seven ways.
No weapon fashioned againstv Obama will prosper but every demonic tongue that rises against him shall be confused and confounded in Jesus' name
and right now I send that confusion into the camp of that serpent,the enemy
The name above every other name Jesus,is against you.

That almighty name  Jesus is mightier than any demons you send towards him.
I rebuke you Satan,in the name of my Lord and my God.
America  shall survive and prosper
Israel shall be free
That is the decree of the almighty and no devil in hell can stop it.
Re: Obamas Stance On Islam by Nobody: 3:43am On Jan 09, 2009
Ah i didnt read the initial write-up. Who does the fellow think should have been elected in place of Obama? McCain who sang "bomb bomb Iran"? Biden, Giulliani, Huckabee or Clinton? grin

I think the arabs thought Obama would be another dhimmi in office who would remove US support so they could swoop on a defenceless Israel. What a disgraceful bunch of murderers.
Re: Obamas Stance On Islam by KarmaMod(f): 3:44am On Jan 09, 2009
*osisi*:

As someone who prays for Obama and his upcoming administration with thousands and millions of Christians,may everything you wish him return to you a hundred fold not only to you but to your generations to come unless they come to the saving Grace of Christ.
You will surely flee seven ways.
No weapon fashioned againstv Obama will prosper but every demonic tongue that rises against him shall be confused and confounded in Jesus' name
The name above every other name.

That almighty name  Jesus is mightier than any demons you send towards him.
I rebuke you Satan,in the name of my Lord and my God.
America  shall survive and prosper
Israel shall be free
That is the decree of the almighty and no devil in hell can stop it.


AMEN! Back To Sender cool
Re: Obamas Stance On Islam by Nobody: 3:46am On Jan 09, 2009
*osisi*:

As someone who prays for Obama and his upcoming administration with thousands and millions of Christians,may everything you wish him return to you a hundred fold not only to you but to your generations to come unless they come to the saving Grace of Christ.
You will surely flee seven ways.
No weapon fashioned againstv Obama will prosper but every demonic tongue that rises against him shall be confused and confounded in Jesus' name
The name above every other name.

That almighty name Jesus is mightier than any demons you send towards him.
I rebuke you Satan,in the name of my Lord and my God.
America shall survive and prosper
Israel shall be free
That is the decree of the almighty and no devil in hell can stop it.


the bible already said once Israel was back as a nation she will NEVER be scattered again. I sleep with two eyes closed . . . the arabs are just beating the air.
Re: Obamas Stance On Islam by osisi3(f): 3:53am On Jan 09, 2009
KarmaMod:

AMEN! Back To Sender cool

You can say that again sister
these people think they can open their mouths and curse anyone.
When Christians are sorrounded by a mighty host of angels
what happened to their leader that had nothing but curses on his lips for Christians and Jews on his deathbed?
He died and Christians and Jews are the most intelligent and most progressive people.
His curses boomeranged right back to his own family such that he had no viable offsprings of all the wives and women he had.
Frizy is setting himself up for wrath from on high and he doesn't even know it.
Re: Obamas Stance On Islam by Frizy(m): 4:59pm On Jan 09, 2009
ayinba1:

@Frizy

I don't know if the original post is your creation but I do pick an issue with the word "slave" in describing Obama. It smacks of a racist tone so I am thinking it originated from one our Arab brothers.

Well, it wasn't my original post but by a brother I know in New York. However, "slave" in this sense must not necessarily be termed racist because they call McCain and Bush the same thing. Please am not among the people who necessarily feel happy or sad that U.S has a black president, and they don't. That has no meaning, the only meaningful thing is what he has to do- his heart. If filled with darkness, then whether he is called a slave of Israel or their he-goat. It is never a problem. Sorry if that makes you feel hurt.

Are muslims going to be a minority sometimes? Yes! So your proposal that we should not vote at all is something I'd like you to explain Islamically. I want us to be very cautious with the way we analyse things.

Well voting for those who engage in killing Muslims is not allowed Islamically. Would Allah be happy if you elected a Pharaoh promising to kill the Children of Israel when they were God's chosen at the time? undecided

It is completely shameful and appalling that obama has remained pretty much "mum" concerning Palestine (astaghfirulah if he did)but then he never said he was a muslim nor promised that he would fight Israel over Palestine.

You see, if its not what we have in the world today, it is not right for a Muslim to vote for an unjust ruler. Being biased to a sect while living others to suffer to death. What that speech only tells you is to get prepared for the man of Change. I bet his change may not even favor most of the American populace except if few rich among them. If this guy is all about war, he would place America, and its economy is a complete deprivation. Although an Arab scholar called Obama a slave sometime ago, 90% of the Arabs loved Obama and the Arab world was in a ceremonial state when he won. But things would soon change. Obama said he would defend Israel,support them with all his might, and avoid Palestine from having any form of defense. He even said Israel's security would be $30billion budget in his administration, as for Palestine nothing.

Yeah though, religion and politics are closely intertwined, we need to still recognise political moves when we see them.

So do you except Obama to say something that grave then change his mind all of a sudden. Even Nigerian politicians never promise things this seriously when they only hope to lie to people.

so Frizy, before I crucify obama, tell me what has the Saudi government/leadership done aout the Palestinian situation, or even about the sudan embarassment? and while they share the same bed with the US leaderhip. I ask these questions with the hope to get an insight from you as to what the Prophet of Allah(SAW) would do.

You see, this people you call Saudi government, are feed by Americans. They have sold their pledge to the enemy, you don't think this people truly represent their people do you? undecided. The Prophet would never lay his pledge with people who continually kill Muslims, fight Islam, and hope to cover the world with their demonic agenda in the name of democracy or globalization. So the prophet would have protected the Palestine, fought Israel till they surrender, and over come America itself. He wont go to the U.N for answers and sit at home when he knows how things run.

I have been where you are right now and I have, alhamduliillah, participated in islamic political discussions in nigeria,(not much in the US). May Allah continue to expand our horizons and increase our Iman (Amin)

Good, if you want to participate in politics in the U.S you need to have the right insight. Visit www.revolutionmuslim.com they wont mislead you.

And tell me, why are the "muslim nations" unable? or unwilling? to aid the weaker Islamic societies? surely, Allah has given us all the tools. we must be doing something(s) wrong.

Point of correction, Muslim nations are not Islamic States. The idea Islamic State follow the Shariah of Allah with no compromise. Leaders from Saudi to Egypt to the UAE and all other Muslim dominated countries do not abide by it. The Western world have successfully empowered this men we call leaders to dance to their tune. Any it must be known that if you sign your pledge to the U.N or World bank, the West has at you the death blow. Just as a doctor could just take the juggler vein of a dying patient out. At revolution muslim for example, they are trying to bring to reality an Islamic State that would have a strong economy, a mighty army against the kafrs that only love to fight Muslims, and a complete reform of the society. Islamic Order would be formed, and all these leaders you call Muslim leaders would not like that. With intellectual capacity and innovative minds things would soon change. Believe its a matter of time. Muslim countries are meant to run one economy, and share the same borders. But the west was able to split the Muslim empire after the fall of Ottoman in Turkey. That is why they have created into the hearts of many that you should be a nationalist and take less about other Muslims world-wide. The prophet said this ummah is one and divide it not!

In other words, the rich Muslim government in this time has no say in defending other Muslim countries because they rely on arms from Kafrs. It is the collection of Kafrs that dictate the affairs of Muslims, a very pathetic scenario. And again apostates leaders would never want to support Hamas or whoever because they are a threat to their own regime. Please you need to know that these leaders don't represent the voice of their people.

tonight, I watched nbc news and the palestinian news that heaed the broadcast means things are way worse in palestine than being reported and the news was bad enough.

As alternative news media are on the rise, nbc would be biased not to show a scene. However, it is their wish never to even report the scenes because they are indirectly exposing the atrocities of their Jewish paymasters.
Re: Obamas Stance On Islam by Frizy(m): 8:15pm On Jan 09, 2009
*osisi*:

As someone who prays for Obama and his upcoming administration with thousands and millions of Christians,may everything you wish him return to you a hundred fold not only to you but to your generations to come unless they come to the saving Grace of Christ.

But this your conditionality looks grave. grin

You will surely flee seven ways.

Was this what Jesus taught you? tongue

No weapon fashioned againstv Obama will prosper but every demonic tongue that rises against him shall be confused and confounded in Jesus' name

Please, your fire may only be to yourself, because God doesn't like those who hate Muslims. tongue

and right now I send that confusion into the camp of that serpent,the enemy
The name above every other name Jesus,is against you.

That is one thing that surprises me about Christians they are always commanding or sending. One Muslim I know went to a church and the pastor blew a wind by his hands, everybody fell. Except this Muslim, the pastor said I command you, I send, I order, I . . grin grin. Your demo too much. tongue


That almighty name  Jesus is mightier than any demons you send towards him.
I rebuke you Satan,in the name of my Lord and my God.
America  shall survive and prosper
Israel shall be free
That is the decree of the almighty and no devil in hell can stop it.


If you don't know who the true Satans are, then don't say. sad
Re: Obamas Stance On Islam by ayinba1(f): 8:25pm On Jan 09, 2009
Salam brother,

Thank you for your response. We as muslims have a lot to do. I read your entire response and understand it. First, the question" where are the muslims?" need to be answered. Dawah is where Prophet Mohammed (SAW) started from so we need to go back to the basics. When we have gained knowledge and understanding, we will be able to establish an Islamic nation as is pleasing to Allah.

Right now, I see no role models so we have work.

And thank you for ignoring the majority of david and his gang. If you start reciting a surah now, they will pee in their pants even while "speaking in tongues" So scared they are even though they have all these worldly things
Re: Obamas Stance On Islam by Nobody: 8:47pm On Jan 09, 2009
*osisi*:

As someone who prays for Obama and his upcoming administration with thousands and millions of Christians,may everything you wish him return to you a hundred fold not only to you but to your generations to come unless they come to the saving Grace of Christ.
You will surely flee seven ways.
No weapon fashioned againstv Obama will prosper but every demonic tongue that rises against him shall be confused and confounded in Jesus' name
and right now I send that confusion into the camp of that serpent,the enemy
The name above every other name Jesus,is against you.

That almighty name  Jesus is mightier than any demons you send towards him.
I rebuke you Satan,in the name of my Lord and my God.
America  shall survive and prosper

Israel shall be free
That is the decree of the almighty and no devil in hell can stop it.


are you getting ready for a more lucrative line of work as a televangelist(you seem to think you have a direct line to your so called god)? what with the er. . .decline in prosperity america is suffering. . .
Re: Obamas Stance On Islam by Nobody: 9:08pm On Jan 09, 2009
Frizy:

But things would soon change. Obama said he would defend Israel,support them with all his might, and avoid Palestine from having any form of defense. He even said Israel's security would be $30billion budget in his administration

America has the right, the same rights arabs take for granted, to support whoever they choose so continue blowing hot air.

Frizy:

as for Palestine nothing.

Palestine ceased to exist in 1948 when the jews chose to return their country to its former name (Israel) instead of "palestine" imposed on them by the Roman emperor Hadrian in AD 70.

There is no arab nation EVER called palestine so you can continue parroting the same tired-old arab lies.

Besides why shld America be obliged to assist "palestinians" dedicated to their destruction? The same arabs who chant "death to America" at every opportunity now whine that they get nothing from America?

Do you know that Gaza's budget is funded mainly by the EU and the US? Where are these arabs who cry the loudest when Gazans are killed?

Frizy:

So the prophet would have protected the Palestine, fought Israel till they surrender, and over come America itself. He wont go to the U.N for answers and sit at home when he knows how things run.

what a wicked devil. Thank God for F-16s, drones, Merkava tanks, patriot missiles and nuclear warheads . . . that bandit of a "prophet" wont stand a chance.

Frizy:

Point of correction, Muslim nations are not Islamic States. The idea Islamic State follow the Shariah of Allah with no compromise. Leaders from Saudi to Egypt to the UAE and all other Muslim dominated countries do not abide by it.

Does an ideal islamic state exist? grin

Frizy:

The Western world have successfully empowered this men we call leaders to dance to their tune.

Can you really blame the west? without their technology no one would buy mid-east oil and they'd be no better than desert camels without FDI from western banks and technology from the west.

When the arabs start contributing something other than oil, war, death and violence then they can start crying about what the west is doing.

Frizy:

With intellectual capacity and innovative minds things would soon change.

These are hardly qualities you associate with muslim states. No offence but just take a good look around.

Frizy:

Believe its a matter of time. Muslim countries are meant to run one economy, and share the same borders. But the west was able to split the Muslim empire after the fall of Ottoman in Turkey.

Where the ottomans not also muslem? grin You people are divided and in confusion.

Frizy:

The prophet said this ummah is one and divide it not!

Sunni vs shia? divide it not indeed. cheesy

This Frizy guy must have his brain fried from reading too much violent rhetoric disguised as "revolution". Your revolution shld start from places like sudan instead of focusing on the west. Essentially all you want is to destroy the west because they are technologically more advanced than you and dont bow down 5 times a day to your god.
Re: Obamas Stance On Islam by olabowale(m): 11:34pm On Jan 09, 2009
@*Osisi*: « #16 on: Today at 03:53:15 AM »

Quote from: KarmaMod on Today at 03:44:55 AM
AMEN! Back To Sender


You can say that again sister
these people think they can open their mouths and curse anyone.
When Christians are sorrounded by a mighty host of angels
what happened to their leader that had nothing but curses on his lips for Christians and Jews on his deathbed?
He died and Christians and Jews are the most intelligent and most progressive people.
His curses boomeranged right back to his own family such that he had no viable offsprings of all the wives and women he had.

Frizy is setting himself up for wrath from on high and he doesn't even know it.

My response is to the enboldened. Please can you tell me a single family that can say that rget are the descendants of either Jesus or Moses? Okay let me make it easy for you. How about a family from John, or Solmon or pick any prophet of your choice, apart from the generic family tree, where Adam is the root, Ibrahim is the trunk, Ismail is the first and larger branch, while Isiaqa is the other branch. The branches of Moses, Jesus do not have identifiable twigs. Show any of them to us.

Now Muhammad (AS) still has his lineage around. Go and ask the King of Jordan, and others. The notables of Arab blood are falling over themselves to be counted among the direct lineage of Muhammad. Then all over the world there are people who are called "Sheriff" (they all claim that they are from the family of Muhammad AS).

And please slow down on the "Christian curses." It will not work on Muslims. The Angels of God are Muslims. Gabriel used to come to see Muhammad. He prayed behind Muhammad. Gabriel called Muhammad brother. Calm down. You want the zionists, you are free to have them. The believers are brothers to one another. From among the Jews, we have Muslims. Google it for yourself. You see them producing Youtube about their Islamic faith.
Re: Obamas Stance On Islam by Nobody: 11:36pm On Jan 09, 2009
uncle olab and his long long meaningless faabu. grin
Re: Obamas Stance On Islam by olabowale(m): 11:49pm On Jan 09, 2009
David you no dey read? Please ol boy, dont let the lab fumes get to the nose too much o.

Wear face mask sometimes. Ijebu Ode people dont want damaged sons. No glue (Okay the poisonous fumes of research lab).
Re: Obamas Stance On Islam by olabowale(m): 1:07am On Jan 10, 2009
@DavidDylan: « #21 on: Today at 09:08:23 PM »

America has the right, the same rights arabs take for granted, to support whoever they choose so continue blowing hot air.

In a democracy the populace should be asked of how to spend their national funds. Is that the case with america? If not, then you do not have a complete democracy at all.




Palestine ceased to exist in 1948 when the jews chose to return their country to its former name (Israel) instead of "palestine" imposed on them by the Roman emperor Hadrian in AD 70.

When was the name Israel came to existence? Before Israel and his children emigrated to Egypt, on the favor of the honored son, Joseph or after they came back from the many centuries stay in Egypt or when? David, did you remeber that there was never a time the land was desolated, without anyone living in it? Ever?




There is no arab nation EVER called palestine so you can continue parroting the same tired-old arab lies.

How about the Philistines? This reminds me of how the Hebrew tongue says Eloi, whereas the Arabic tongue says Allah.





Besides why shld America be obliged to assist "palestinians" dedicated to their destruction? The same arabs who chant "death to America" at every opportunity now whine that they get nothing from America?

True democracy should have listened to voice of reason. Debate the issue. And you will see many not wanting to help the zionists. And the voice of reason in America is the voice of American Muslims. Check it out. Sheik hamzah Yusuf told President Bush that to call the campaign against Afghanistan Taliban/Alqaida "operation altimate justice," is to give impression of "god complex". He also advised him to drop the "crusade" agenda because it is a christian leaning concept. America is more than Christian nation. Proof: Muhammad is written and imagery of him is around public buildings "The Suprem Court Building in DC" and used to be in public square.




Do you know that Gaza's budget is funded mainly by the EU and the US? Where are these arabs who cry the loudest when Gazans are killed?

And because of that you have the rights to support their exterminations? Think man.




[Quote]
what a wicked devil. Thank God for F-16s, drones, Merkava tanks, patriot missiles and nuclear warheads . . . that bandit of a "prophet" wont stand a chance.
[/quote]

Every prophet have been called worst. Jesus was not immuned from it, from the mouth of his enemies. And you even believed that they finally killed him. I on the other hand protested that and then declared that he was not killed.




[Quote]
Does an ideal islamic state exist?
[/quote]

No. Thats why the muslims need to handle their own affairs and install a kalifah! And don't worry what you think about since your opinion does not count. Afterall, I never have any problems with your Pope. Oh sorry, you are not a catholic!



[Quote]
Can you really blame the west? without their technology no one would buy mid-east oil and they'd be no better than desert camels without FDI from western banks and technology from the west.
[/quote]

Can the West do without the Arabs, since it is about Arabs? The Jews still lament, in their private jokes that if only they had just move a little in the direction of the Arab oil rich lands. Today they will be oil producers. And Yahweh/Jehoveh did not bless them with a single drop of oil.

Its called FDIC. The term and the idea of bank Checks, is an arab muslim thing. Check is normally an instrument of "trust!"



[Quote]
These are hardly qualities you associate with muslim states. No offence but just take a good look around.
[/quote]

Then why the "douggon heck" you are complaining about them? You must have been a little jealous about them!



[Quote]
Where the ottomans not also muslem? You people are divided and in confusion.
[/quote]

This dude knows nothing about islamic history. If only the non-muslims could just butt-out of the affairs of the muslims. You would have seen a great movement of brotherhood. You can complain about the situation. Thats to the hypocrites among us who cooperate with the disbelievers, the non-muslims. This reminds me of the leader of the coup that ended the peaceful reign of partice Lumumba. He was with him, the evening before. Same condition with Murtala and Dimka. What am saying is that the hypocrites create discourse where there is supposed to be unity.




[Quote]
Sunni vs shia? divide it not indeed.
[/quote]

And the Jews or the Christians are united, undivided, indeed.





This Frizy guy must have his brain fried from reading too much violent rhetoric disguised as "revolution". Your revolution shld start from places like sudan instead of focusing on the west. Essentially all you want is to destroy the west because they are technologically more advanced than you and don't bow down 5 times a day to your god.

David has forgotten that he is an african, too. A nigerian, a yoruba boy. His blood is from Ijebu Ode. You are not immuned from seeking the improved africa, as well. Start your revolution from that town know as Ijebu Ode.
Re: Obamas Stance On Islam by Nobody: 1:19am On Jan 10, 2009
*osisi*:

As someone who prays for Obama and his upcoming administration with thousands and millions of Christians,may everything you wish him return to you a hundred fold not only to you but to your generations to come unless they come to the saving Grace of Christ.
You will surely flee seven ways.
No weapon fashioned againstv Obama will prosper but every demonic tongue that rises against him shall be confused and confounded in Jesus' name
and right now I send that confusion into the camp of that serpent,the enemy
The name above every other name Jesus,is against you.


That almighty name  Jesus is mightier than any demons you send towards him.
I rebuke you Satan,in the name of my Lord and my God.
America  shall survive and prosper
Israel shall be free
That is the decree of the almighty and no devil in hell can stop it.


hehe - did you forget to make these prayers for george ;Dor was you god sleeping through the disaster and hypocrisy of the administration world's most powerful born again? grin pele better direct your 'millions of prayers' to hoping the economy will work - tho that seems to be already happening - americans are only religious when poverty is knocking - you really do seem to be warming up for a lucrative career of the sort practised by your fellow christians back home grin
Re: Obamas Stance On Islam by olabowale(m): 1:29am On Jan 10, 2009
My darling *Osisi*. She will throw some medical terms when she is ministering to the people. Or when she is speaking in tongue. If I were a bad person, I would just put my business cap on and ask that she makes me her money manager of the millions of USD or Euro collected by her from the church people.

I will truly would have given her a good return. I will never act like the hedge funder Bernie Maddox who will be exchanging the mankhattan pent house for the Big house next week.

My intention is not to have any tainted assets. lol.
Re: Obamas Stance On Islam by osisi2(f): 1:30am On Jan 10, 2009
na so that return to sender pain una sotey una moderator come ban me
cool cool cool
Re: Obamas Stance On Islam by osisi2(f): 1:32am On Jan 10, 2009
oyb:

hehe - did you forget to make these prayers for george ;Dor was you god sleeping through the disaster and hypocrisy of the administration world's most powerful born again? grin pele better direct your 'millions of prayers' to hoping the economy will work - tho that seems to be already happening - americans are only religious when poverty is knocking - you really do seem to be warming up for a lucrative career of the sort practised by your fellow christians back home grin

Looks like the devil in you was ruffled a wee bit.

pele wink
If America 's economy is suffering, your own relatives in naija are eating mud pies
my dear who's worse off?
Re: Obamas Stance On Islam by osisi2(f): 1:36am On Jan 10, 2009
any man that curses Obama ,America or Israel will have the curse return to them a million fold in Jesus' name
If you hate Obama and Bush take the next camel and move to Islamabad where everything is bad grin
na by force?
Re: Obamas Stance On Islam by JJYOU: 1:47am On Jan 10, 2009
**osisi:

any man that curses Obama ,America or Israel will have the curse return to them a million fold in Jesus' name
If you hate Obama and Bush take the next camel and move to Islamabad where everything is bad grin
na by force?
they wont go becos they want to enjoy the ability to live free and rant about the west at the same time. the written judgement is declared upon these godless cursers

(1) (2) (3) (4) (Reply)

Muslim / Why Can't The Quran Be Translated Into English? / Somali Rape Victim, 13, Stoned To Death

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 162
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.