AlphaStyles:
if u dont give them weapons and armour how will they perform can u give american soldiers these type of arms our soldiers are carrying to go and fight taliban? they need equipement if weapons is excuse why are they complaining? inside u and them who is the one fighting boko haram? who recieved military training? who is in the war front?

AlphaStyles:
if u dont give them weapons and armour how will they perform can u give american soldiers these type of arms our soldiers are carrying to go and fight taliban? they need equipement if weapons is excuse why are they complaining? inside u and them who is the one fighting boko haram? who recieved military training? who is in the war front?

arantess:

The person is an actual soldier, u are armchair, so shut up about everything

Odunayaw:
The fellow you quoted is on the frontlines

olapluto:
The video's effect is already manifest in the last few pages. SERIOUS soul searching has to be done. Nigerian Army needs to change their MO when face with such attacks.
It is very easy to aportion blame when we see the propaganda video of BHT. No one likes to see a trained soldier die in somewhat cowardly manner. If Nigerian Army does not respond robustly within 48 hours, then they are inviting another worse attack. Obviously our bases are porous and will be easily overrun by any rag tag army. BHT surely now know that most camp defences will not hold after few waves of attack.

I am really too heartbroken to start analysing the issue. Even more heartbroken that the government and Army HQ are not saying anything. They must bloody take us for fools. Last night, when I saw the video, I couldnt sleep. I was awake till like 4am just having flashbacks of that soldier pleading for his life, and the other well kitted soldiers shot point blank.

Henry240:


You see the high level of indiscipline prevelant in the rank and file of the Nigerian army.

This is exactly what i've been saying all day, irrespective of the equipment, indiscipline is rife.

2 T-72 Tanks destroyed

2 Vickers MBT destroyed

Otokar Cobra destroyed

Streit Typhoon MRAP destroyed

The soldiers don't even know the Tanks, saying the T-72s were bought during Shagari's regime.

How do we move from this?

Soldiers are indisciplined, CO's lack strategy, leadership and are utterly corrupt, the high command are living in some sort of kuvuki land.


You lose with all that, and i spend my days posting pictures celebrating these troops!

Damn....... I feel defrauded.


I just cannot continue, i'm done with these guys.

AlphaStyles:
i also have a blood member in the frontline so?

BlackBaron:

They need to gut the whole training manual or whatever it is for a more concise and coherent training. The insurgency is 10 years old! Shocking they're still vulnerable to hit and run attacks!!
The dynamics of the battle may have had nothing to do with indiscipline afterall but for an apparent lack of protocol ala Base defence, communication and regrouping. Away from the obligatory obstacle and marksmanship training for infantry at Kaduna, what about organisation, hierarchy of command when things go awry and night time training. The depot's videos on training on YouTube are embarrassing, its more of corporal punishment than noteworthy training that can be the difference on a battlefield.

As for The Base, it was a stationary target and already the enemies could easily have employed some advantages to flank, overwhelm and choke off escape routes.

As for the current crops of generals, it may be they're also ill suited in their thinking if we're looking at the level of terrible training inherent in 80s, 90s and early 2000.
Basically, garbage in, garbage out.

Odunayaw:
I am nearly forced to call you a child. Your relative is not you! You keep quiet when someone who is actually in the thick of it is commenting

AlphaStyles:
excuse me but i actually value the life of my father who has been there for 4years and nearly got killed in 2015 bkus of lack of ammos so dont come here and blab rubbish with me

Odunayaw:
Don't change the subject you infant!

BabaOwen:
I don't understand, are there no officers like lieutenants, captains or majors in that place that could have stopped the soldiers from videoing and saying all what they were saying?

Sizzorkay:
I've restrained myself from insulting you, but for some reason you don't seem understand never to insult others without being insulted.
How big of a punk are ya?
I said what i said, if it pisses you off, jump off a fvking bridge you silly illiterate, who the heck are you to question my intelligence.
The hell is wrong with you guys talking to others as if you own them?
What such military base are you talking about huh? A soldier , according to info posted on here, said they were caught off-guard, but you are here insisting they weren't, okay.
Regardless whether they were or weren't, that won't bring back the dead.
So get off my case dude.
You had to go back and read comments that was posted several pages back? really?
And why the heck would i wanna join the military in a semi-failed country where the leadership don't give a darn about the people? Show me why Nigeria is worth dying for. Look around you, what benefit are the people reaping for being Nigerians? Nada.
Being a soldier wasn't by force, if you choose to enlist, be ready for the blood and tears, it's not for everyone, don't insult others because they weren't in the military, that's just stupid.
My uncle was gunned down over there months ago while in uniform with pictures of his corpse all over the internet, you sit there and talk to me about some bs. Each family that has made sacrifice knows what they've lost.
Having obsolete equipment is an issue, i never denied that, no one did.
Now your excuse was that they lost because they had low morale? okay, tomorrow if would be because they had flat tires.
Keep on with the excuses, let's see who that helps.
You? you wanna lecture me about comprehension? This must be a joke.

We don't have a professional Army, we have some professional units within the Army, that's about it.
Watch the video and see the disarray, without anyone being in charge of the situation. What kind of military do we have where soldiers can just up and walk away after an attack, who's in charge etc.
But hey, let's blame me and my lack of comprehension.
After all you claimed to have "shot a commission". This is the guy questioning my intelligence. Stay in your lane chief .

bidex111:





These base is not Melete base, these is Zari attack that happened few months ago.

sconp:

If I am not mistaken, in the video I heard the person call metele repeatedly.

sconp:

If I am not mistaken, in the video I heard the person call metele repeatedly.

Stephandeswardt:
I keep hearing they took 40 barrels, they took 40 barrels....i hope it isnt mrls? With the amount of armour we have lost to BHT , or destroyed or BHT destroyed and the amount of atry pieces also.....i wonder just how strong our army is now.

Stephandeswardt:
Why is our T72 getting blown up by rpg 7? Does BHT have new weapon systems? I saw a T72, that cocked off, the turret blown off......rpg7 isnt meant to defeat a T72.

Stephandeswardt:
Why is our T72 getting blown up by rpg 7? Does BHT have new weapon systems? I saw a T72, that cocked off, the turret blown off......rpg7 isnt meant to defeat a T72.

Stephandeswardt:
Why is our T72 getting blown up by rpg 7? Does BHT have new weapon systems? I saw a T72, that cocked off, the turret blown off......rpg7 isnt meant to defeat a T72.

bidex111:



So don't spiit what you don't know of

War are not combat games you guys think it his; even the developed countries who are fighting ISIS & Taliban are not finding it easy, terrorism is still as strong and present there.

If these soldiers are not giving the right morale, equipment and environmental it's going to get worst than these with the new alliance terrorist are forming.

If you guys like type all your Jagons; it will never change anything. Those soldiers are not willing to die like fowls anymore for these country.

Sizzorkay:
You just love going in circles while convincing yourself that you are saying something that makes sense right?
I mean, for the love of God, i just said the country is not worth dying for since the leadership doesn't care about the ppl, i said soldiers should down tools and walk if they aren't being well taken care of, yet you just literally said the exact same thing.
And if they are not willing to, they shouldn't be there, at least they would be alive, in case you still don't get it, them losing the battle wasn't the issue here, them dying is, get it? I got upset and sad that they died. How many times do i gotta repeat this? We lost a lot of soldiers we shouldn't have lost.
wow, well that's it for me on this subject.
But next time you disagree with anything i write, respond without insult, that shouldn't be too hard, i don't know you and we never had issues before, so no need for all that.

bidex111:


Please Where did I insult you ... telling you should stop spitting what you don't know of ... has become an insult, whereas it's an actual fact.

Odunayaw:
Depot is basic school.

Infanteers attend Nigerian Army Infantry School, how can't you differentiate

Geronimoe:

Oga I have said this earlier. I've visited depot on countless occasions just to go see instructors that are friends. I've seen training manuals from Jaji when some of these friends visited me, they were reading for exams. This was like before the insurgency became full blown, guy even at that, what I saw was something that looked like from the 60's. I asked and the answer was like;na so we see am.

Sizzorkay:
A fact? What the heck is this man talking about? So you know something for a fact but I'm clueless about same?
Great, our troops lost because of low moral, that translate to what? Lack of leadership, lack of discipline, lack of awareness and the list goes on and on, and yes not sufficiently equipped.
Tell me again, how is that different from what Henry and others have been saying here?
I responded to the Algerian guy, who pretty much wondered about the same issue i discussed, yet you focused just on me. Get a life dude.
You are the last person to tell someone else they have problem that goes beyond comprehension. that's called an insult.
You don't question someone else's intelligence, you don't know me, and you aren't talking to a child . Stay in your lane.
You can't admonish someone for not being civil in their comment while you are busy insulting others, doesn't work that way, it's either you rise above it or you don't .
One second you were telling me to be civil with my comments, and right after that you started hurling insults at Henry. Only hypocrites behave like that.

Stephandeswardt:
I keep hearing they took 40 barrels, they took 40 barrels....i hope it isnt mrls? With the amount of armour we have lost to BHT , or destroyed or BHT destroyed and the amount of atry pieces also.....i wonder just how strong our army is now.