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Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by Karanka: 7:31pm On Apr 15, 2015
Well,whatever the case,I think the most important things in the country should remain in the present status quo until the new government enters...no need to cause undue change now at the eleventh hour.

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Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by Plus234(m): 7:32pm On Apr 15, 2015
scribble:



You mean rigged him out. Almajiris like y'all. undecided

and the same Almajiris will rigged him out again any day he surface to contest

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Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by free2ryhme: 7:33pm On Apr 15, 2015
grin grin

Is it yesterday d constitution amendment began ? U legislooters wasted all the time u had to make names for urselves doing nothing only to hastily send d amended constitution for approval. Tomorrow, the APC will come out to say d president hurriedly assented to d document to deny d in coming executive of certain powers. Well done mr president.



The issues raised by President Jonathan are very fundamental and valid. This is how Constituency Project which makes the Legislature focus more on oversight function at the expense of their primary responsibility of law making was smuggled into our Legal Structure. With the loss of the Presidential Election, GEJ is no longer beclouded by any ambition to overlook impunity and illegality.

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Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by Badgers14: 7:33pm On Apr 15, 2015
Nice move , he should have manned up long time ago but now the train have already left the station.

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Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by emmykk(m): 7:35pm On Apr 15, 2015
EdCure:
Does Gej still think those executive powers are meant for him to use? No doubt the clueless one was instructed by his "advisers" against signing it because it was a ploy by the opposition to reduce his presidential powers and "sabotage" his government grin grin

They should send it back to him the next time he gets drunk. grin

Meanwhile, someone please remind him that Nigerians won't require his catastrophic signature on such sensitive documents after May 29th.
many are bad few are roaming

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Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by yinkarh187(m): 7:37pm On Apr 15, 2015
I'll comment later
Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by philips70(m): 7:38pm On Apr 15, 2015
Mogidi:


Devolution of power is what I stand for, with GEJ or without GEJ.
Excessive power in the hands of power-drunk dictator like Buhari is dangerous.

GEJ never abused his power like Buhari did in the 80s, jailing anyone that has the temerity to scrutinize his actions or inactions.

But he exercised it by unleashing his goons in DSS, Army and Nigerian police on any member of the opposition who do not buy into his divisive pattern of leadership abi? Under Jonathan the DSS, Police and the Nigerian Army became arms of the presidency. Jonathan committed more infractions than any military ruler ever did in the past albeit quietly as if he had no knowledge.

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Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by dhorlipizzu(m): 7:39pm On Apr 15, 2015
What's my own?
Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by Oahray: 7:39pm On Apr 15, 2015
Wise decision, if his reasons are justified. I have no idea what was ammended, so I can't say.

If he had accepted, he'd still be blamed for trying to whittle down Buhari's power. The majority of the Nigerian masses are an ignorant lot swept by the tide of hearsay and herd sentiment.

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Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by emmykk(m): 7:40pm On Apr 15, 2015
Chine12:
GEJ..Nigerians will need u in 2019
if a dictator can come back after 33yrs i see Gej coming back.


On the issue,they thought the president is angry and they want to use him to cut buhari powers.

There are many issue the would have pass into law they rather want to do vandatte.

Senators are in thousand presidents are few.there is more love among presidesnt than their followers thought
Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by virtuousMe(f): 7:40pm On Apr 15, 2015
Na wa for you o, so you now see democracy and military as the same.
Jona actually abused power, him and his wife did, they turned both police and army into a terrorist group.
Mogidi:


Devolution of power is what I stand for, with GEJ or without GEJ.
Excessive power in the hands of power-drunk dictator like Buhari is dangerous.

GEJ never abused his power like Buhari did in the 80s, jailing anyone that has the temerity to scrutinize his actions or inactions.
Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by blackjack21(m): 7:40pm On Apr 15, 2015
Mogidi:
I disagree with this position, the president has too much powers, devolution of power is my mantra.
everything is devalued. Naira, petrol, GARRI, KUKULI, has all devalued, I think the president power too should devalue.







19:40:17
Wed, Apr 15, 2015

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Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by sCun: 7:41pm On Apr 15, 2015
Did Buhari bribe Jonathan to reject this amendment?
He is the only one likely to benefit from this.

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Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by Mogidi: 7:41pm On Apr 15, 2015
EdCure:

Why do you choose to be among those who lack basic understanding of the difference between the type of govt that Buhari presided over in the 80s and what is obtainable in the current dispensation? It is quite damaging to be willfully ignorant out of convenience.

Don't be silly, Buhari was not the only one that operated using military decrees.
Gowon, Murtala Mohammed, Abdulsalami Abubakar, Obasanjo, Babangida all ruled with decrees but non was more anti criticism than Buhari.
Try checking El-Rufai and Sheikh Gumi's assessment of Buhari as a person. His ideas and intransigences are monolithic, hates advice and any thought of concession, recipe for disaster.

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Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by Alowonlejnr(m): 7:41pm On Apr 15, 2015
Mogidi:


Devolution of power is what I stand for, with GEJ or without GEJ.
Excessive power in the hands of power-drunk dictator like Buhari is dangerous.

GEJ never abused his power like Buhari did in the 80s, jailing anyone that has the temerity to scrutinize his actions or inactions.
All these GEJ e-activists sev..dem noh dey rest!

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Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by Oahray: 7:41pm On Apr 15, 2015
free2ryhme:
grin grin

Is it yesterday d constitution amendment began ? U legislooters wasted all the time u had to make names for urselves doing nothing only to hastily send d amended constitution for approval. Tomorrow, the APC will come out to say d president hurriedly assented to d document to deny d in coming executive of certain powers. Well done mr president.



The issues raised by President Jonathan are very fundamental and valid. This is how Constituency Project which makes the Legislature focus more on oversight function at the expense of their primary responsibility of law making was smuggled into our Legal Structure. With the loss of the Presidential Election, GEJ is no longer beclouded by any ambition to overlook impunity and illegality.
well said bro.

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Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by ITbomb(m): 7:42pm On Apr 15, 2015
Jona, what are you doing
?

whittle down the powers of Buhari so that he understands that democracy is different from military rule.

C'mon, do this last thing for me

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Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by Nobody: 7:42pm On Apr 15, 2015
I am starting to like this man. In fact, I started when he called to congratulate the president-elect. I am increasing in respect for him.

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Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by Nobody: 7:43pm On Apr 15, 2015
If you stop abusing your leaders, you can understand the logic in some of their decisions. GEJ is a democrat, and not a bigot. Otherwise now that he is out, he would have signed it even with all the error in the amendment knowing well it's Buhari that would suffer the consequence.

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Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by dhardline(m): 7:44pm On Apr 15, 2015
This just shows they are afraid of buhari and they want to take as much power away from the presidential seat as possible and Jonathan being the good president most Nigerians have refused to see still wants the presidential seat to retain those powers in order to allow the in coming president buhari to perform fully and take all neccessary actions on any politician found on the wrong side of the law.

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Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by KingsleyCEO: 7:44pm On Apr 15, 2015
God bless GEJ
God bless Federal Republic of Nigeria

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Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by cole265(m): 7:45pm On Apr 15, 2015
GEJ exercising his powers since March 28 2015 grin grin grin
Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by udemzyudex(m): 7:47pm On Apr 15, 2015
san316:
If he had been doing things the right way from the beginning, I don't think they would be shocked. They are just surprised that he grew balls at the last minute not withstanding the ambiguous reasons for rejecting the bill.

What a president!!!

For six years he was watching terrorist build empires for themselves in the country but suddenly used just six weeks to reduce terrorism by 80%.

For six years, he has been using just 30% of his powers and now that he has just six weeks to leave, he wants to use the remaining 70%.


Yeye. GEJ now trying to man up when he has already been manned down. Too late.
you also forget to state that,the north were complaining that the military was killing their people and how they wanted bokoharam to be treated like the militant... Smh

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Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by cole265(m): 7:49pm On Apr 15, 2015
ITbomb:
Jona, what are you doing
?

whittle down the powers of Buhari so that he understands that democracy is different from military rule.

C'mon, do this last thing for me

Are you okay?
Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by henpaul2000(m): 7:49pm On Apr 15, 2015
Observing

Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by UncleJudax(m): 7:49pm On Apr 15, 2015
Franzeez:


Is this wretch OK?
That's his default setting...always talking trash.

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Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by midolian(m): 7:57pm On Apr 15, 2015
scribble:



You mean rigged him out. Almajiris like y'all. undecided
take it easy on yourself..

Buhari is gonna be ur president till 2019 and if God will, till 2023..live with it

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Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by domejike(m): 7:58pm On Apr 15, 2015
midolian:
President Goodluck Jonathan’s letter to the National Assembly,  rejecting amendments to the 1999 Constitution, which was read on the floor of Senate on Wednesday by Senate President, David Mark, was received with shock by some members, who openly expressed surprise at the reasons why the President vetoed the bill.

Chairman,  Senate Committee on the Review of the 1999 Constitution (4th Alteration Bill 2015),  Senator Ike Ekweremadu, announced that his members would hold a two-day retreat from Wednesday to Thursday to review the development.

Efforts by  members to subject Jonathan’s letter to debate were frustrated by the Senate President, who said there was the need for them to have a copy of the letter each before they would be able to make meaningful contribution.

But  Senator Abubakar Yar’Adua (Katsina Central) raised a point of order and insisted that the issue be discussed because of the serious fundamental issues raised by Jonathan, which affected the integrity of the National Assembly.

Yar’Adua said, “I think it is important for us to discuss that letter and see whether there is need for us to consider the letter or not.

“I think the President  has raised very serious fundamental issues, especially in terms of our conscience as lawmakers and his own position as the chief executive officer of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. That is why I am raising this point or order.”

Although Mark agreed with Yar’Adua that the letter should be extensively discussed, he maintained that the debate could only be meaningful after members would have studied the letter at home.

Mark said,  “Obviously, this letter is not like any other normal letter. We can’t discuss the letter unless you have a copy of it. So, the first reaction is for me to make copies available to everybody and you go and study it.

“If you notice that there is an announcement also by the Constitution Review Committee that they(members) are going to meet. So, that will straight away go to them. I agree with you that weighty issues have been raised. It’s a peculiar case; so everybody will be involved.”

Our correspondent observed that the members had started the retreat and will come up with their position, which would also enable the Senate to take appropriate action on the issue.

Jonathan, had in the letter, said he would not assent to the amendments because they did not satisfy the strict requirements of Section 9(3) of the 1999 Constitution.

He queried the decision of the National Assembly to whittle down some Executive powers of the President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

He also faulted some amendments which will give Executive powers and duties to the Legislature and the Judiciary.

Jonathan made his position known in a seven-page letter to Senate President David Mark and House of Representatives Speaker Aminu Tambuwal.

The President listed 12 errors in the amendments.

They are •Non-compliance with the threshold specified in Section 9(3) of the 1999 Constitution on amendments;•Alteration to constitution cannot be valid with mere voice votes unless supported by the votes of not less than four-fifths majority all members of National Assembly and two-thirds of all the 36 State Houses of Assembly.

Others are, the Right to free basic education and primary and maternal care services imposed on private institutions; •Flagrant violation of the doctrine of separation of powers; •Unjustified whittling down of the Executive powers of the Federation vested in the President by virtue of Section 5(1) of the 1999 Constitution;• and 30 days allowed for assent of the President.

http://www.punchng.com/news/jonathans-letter-on-constitution-amendment-shocks-senate/
trust me, this is a bargain from the incoming presiednt to lobby gej to veto it in exchange for something better after his government
Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by hush15: 7:59pm On Apr 15, 2015
EdCure:
Does Gej still think those executive powers are meant for him to use? No doubt the clueless one was instructed by his "advisers" against signing it because it was a ploy by the opposition to reduce his presidential powers and "sabotage" his government grin grin

They should send it back to him the next time he gets drunk. grin

Meanwhile, someone please remind him that Nigerians won't require his catastrophic signature on such sensitive documents after May 29th.

Why do people respond to issues blindly and stupidly?

Taking pleasure in making statements that reflects your stupidity...

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Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by M4gunners: 8:01pm On Apr 15, 2015
Well done GEJ those betrayers.

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Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by betty202020(m): 8:02pm On Apr 15, 2015
EdCure:
Does Gej still think those executive powers are meant for him to use? No doubt the clueless one was instructed by his "advisers" against signing it because it was a ploy by the opposition to reduce his presidential powers and "sabotage" his government grin grin

They should send it back to him the next time he gets drunk. grin

Meanwhile, someone please remind him that Nigerians won't require his catastrophic signature on such sensitive documents after May 29th.
U Are the clueless. did u knw the principles of separation of power? he said d amendment gives executive powers over legislature. did u read dat?

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Re: Jonathan’s Letter On Constitution Amendment Shocks Senate by Jaypea98: 8:02pm On Apr 15, 2015
Abayhormy:
[b]Yes, looking @ this man Gej, I just wonder why he allowed over confidence of the PDP ruling party/ power thing to prevent him from being grateful for the love that we showed him in 2011 polls.

I am Yoruba and a Christian, I wholeheartedly and lovingly voted for Jonathan in 2011, Against buhari and all other candidates, I was particularly happy when Atiku lost to him in the PDP primaries; but Alas, his performance especially in the aspect of corruption/impunity made me changed my mind concerning him because I was disappointed. Now I voted against him just like every true lover of our nation's progress will. But what we get from mischievous PDP is inciting our brothers from SS & SE to believe their "brother" was betrayed.

This is unfair for millions of southwesterners and even Northcentral/ Middlebelt Nigerians that truly believed in Gej and was on His side to herald the fact that a South South candidate must be given Nigeria's support to rule Nigeria, and hence voted him(In 2011).

Our South East Brothers especially are really getting it all wrong.

It was never about the West backing a Northern agenda. They argue the West did not criticize Obasanjo.

The level of awareness now in 2015 is different from the level of awareness as at 2003 when Obasanjo contested for second term. The social media was not yet alive then. Facebook was created in 2004, somany of the other blogs and our flexible access to the Internet came latter too.

Even then(2003), so many people dint have access to independent news broadcast like Channels & others. How many people had Dstv then, MAJORITY were all stuck to NTA, and thus cannot be really informed on the wrongs of Obasanjo. I repeat again, the level of awareness now is different from then.

Let's not give the Devil a chance. With proper leadership, we All need each other. One of the biggest Deposit of Iron ore in the world(said to be better than Japan's own) is in Ajaokuta(Kogi state-North central), Somany food items we need and consume are most suitably grown on the savannah soil of the farther North(E.g, Beans, Onions, groundnut, etc), The West has the only suitable land for cocoa, the major survival resource of the largest and most successful French speaking African country- Ivory coast. Oil deposits was discovered in Lagos, but no adequate commitment yet from any of our government to conduct more research and expand our oil deposit base the way US did recently and they stopped needing our oil.

Gold deposit is in Ilesa-South West. Gold is the leading natural resource of South Africa which many of us run to en mass for greener pastures, Tin is in Jos, Coal is in Enugu, Oil is in South South, How many can I mention? We ALL Need Each Other.

I Pray God will give us Unity, and Proper leadership, which we Lack, Need, Which I Crave For, and which informed many Nigerians Political Choice for Change in the recent past elections. May God Almighty Help us. Amen.[/b]

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