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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Match Two:OAU VS IBADANPOLY::Winner- IBADANPOLY by Nobody: 9:01pm On Jun 14, 2015
While playing the feud, APC made itself look as the defensive side, and was successful in influencing people's emotion and getting their sympathy votes. APC won the presidential seat and majority of governorship, senate and house of representative seats; but that did not go without Mr. Amechi and his counterpart from adamawa state, Mr. Nyako, receiving a political bluster. Amechi lost the executive structure of his state to PDP and Nyako was ousted in a civilian coup-de-tat by his state's PDP law makers. sammyscholar what do u min by dis.cif so what is d purpose for campaign if nt for wooing votets
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Match Two:OAU VS IBADANPOLY::Winner- IBADANPOLY by Fynestboi: 9:02pm On Jun 14, 2015
Fynestboi:
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9pm.....


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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Match Two:OAU VS IBADANPOLY::Winner- IBADANPOLY by Miracy(f): 9:02pm On Jun 14, 2015
sammyscholar:
let me remind you again (peradventured you have forgotten). 2015 General Elecction: a relection of people's will or an outcome of political vendetta? We cannot dazzle into this subject matter without visiting history. What led to what? What precipitated what? That is the crux of this topic of discuss. Was it the masses 'will' that mould the faith of the election or the vendetta politics between out political parties/politicians? It is the later of course!
Will politicians vote themselves into power?
All their politics was aimed at convincing the voters to vote their party.
But at the end, it's the people that voted based on their choice.

They voted out pdp simply because pdp didn't live up to their promises and people's expection.
They weren't coerced to vote who they voted. They did that on their own free will
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Match Two:OAU VS IBADANPOLY::Winner- IBADANPOLY by darrytoz(m): 9:07pm On Jun 14, 2015
Miracy:

Will politicians vote themselves into power?
All their politics was aimed at convincing the voters to vote their party.
But at the end, it's the people that voted based on their choice.
They voted out pdp simply because pdp didn't live up to their promises and people's expection.
They weren't coerced to vote who they voted. They did that on their own free will
What about religion and ethnic differences. Don't they also play part in the 2015 general electiin?
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Match Two:OAU VS IBADANPOLY::Winner- IBADANPOLY by Fynestboi: 9:08pm On Jun 14, 2015
Few minutes before judges can ask questions.

Jarus
Tgirl4real
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Match Two:OAU VS IBADANPOLY::Winner- IBADANPOLY by Fynestboi: 9:10pm On Jun 14, 2015
9:10-9:30
fynestboi: Our illustrious judges

You may now ask your questions.

Debaters please reply accordingly.

Thanks


Jarus
Tgirl4real
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Match Two:OAU VS IBADANPOLY::Winner- IBADANPOLY by darrytoz(m): 9:10pm On Jun 14, 2015
darrytoz:

What about religion and ethnic differences. Don't they also play part in the 2015 general electiin?
*****election
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Match Two:OAU VS IBADANPOLY::Winner- IBADANPOLY by sammyscholar(m): 9:13pm On Jun 14, 2015
Miracy:


I believe the reason why apc won the election is because the people came out massively to express their franchise without interference.... People were tired of Jonathan's administration, they were tired of been deceived... if Jonathan had perform well, i'm sure he would have been voted in again.
the result, undoubtedly, shows tribal romance. South east and south south eloped with pdp. virtually all the three regions in the northern part of the country follewed APC. And you say people are tired of jonathan's administration. The result was not a consensus. If it had been, all Nigerians would have spoken with one voice. Either north, south, east or what have you, we would have all (atleast) gone for a candidate. The voting pattern was tribalistic and that is the handiwork of our political parties. We receive whatever is thrown at us. They are the players. We are just mere lookers sister. The election is an outcome of a political vendetta.

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Match Two:OAU VS IBADANPOLY::Winner- IBADANPOLY by Nunushokoto(m): 9:21pm On Jun 14, 2015
The participants are not making dis debate lively and interesting
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Match Two:OAU VS IBADANPOLY::Winner- IBADANPOLY by Fynestboi: 9:22pm On Jun 14, 2015
fynestboi: Audience, please you can put forward your questions. Kindly air your queries
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Match Two:OAU VS IBADANPOLY::Winner- IBADANPOLY by Nobody: 9:23pm On Jun 14, 2015
sammyscholar:
the result, undoubtedly, shows tribal romance. South east and south south eloped with pdp. virtually all the three regions in the northern part of the country follewed APC. And you say people are tired of jonathan's administration. The result was not a consensus. If it had been, all Nigerians would have spoken with one voice. Either north, south, east or what have you, we would have all (atleast) gone for a candidate. The voting pattern was tribalistic and that is the handiwork of our political parties. We receive whatever is thrown at us. They are the players. We are just mere lookers sister. The election is an outcome of a political vendetta.
smiles. U nid to understand that jonathan's administration failed woefully, most especially in the south west, and tthe northern part of the country. And the best they can do is to vote him out. Y can u even say the election is a vendetta, when the losser, Dr Jonathan confirm d election as credible, even after lossing. Accept the truth
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Match Two:OAU VS IBADANPOLY::Winner- IBADANPOLY by sammyscholar(m): 9:26pm On Jun 14, 2015
Microflux:
While playing the feud, APC made itself look as the defensive side, and was successful in influencing people's emotion and getting their sympathy votes. APC won the presidential seat and majority of governorship, senate and house of representative seats; but that did not go without Mr. Amechi and his counterpart from adamawa state, Mr. Nyako, receiving a political bluster. Amechi lost the executive structure of his state to PDP and Nyako was ousted in a civilian coup-de-tat by his state's PDP law makers. sammyscholar what do u min by dis.cif so what is d purpose for campaign if nt for wooing votets
it is one thing that led to another @microflux. APC could not have won if not for the likes of Amechi and co who left PDP to form ally with the party's sworn rival. Amechi and is new party played vendetta politics against PDP (especially against jonathan) and vice versa. Pls what can you explain about political vendetta? Waiting.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Match Two:OAU VS IBADANPOLY::Winner- IBADANPOLY by Fynestboi: 9:34pm On Jun 14, 2015
fynestboi: If our judges and audience are not asking questions, debaters may continue to answer other questions (if available) as we await the result.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Match Two:OAU VS IBADANPOLY::Winner- IBADANPOLY by sammyscholar(m): 9:35pm On Jun 14, 2015
Microflux:
smiles. U nid to understand that jonathan's administration failed woefully, most especially in the south west, and tthe northern part of the country. And the best they can do is to vote him out. Y can u even say the election is a vendetta, when the losser, Dr Jonathan confirm d election as credible, even after lossing. Accept the truth
south south/east are not left out. Or are you saying he performed more in those regions? Can you please enumerate all the projects he executed in all the six regions and let see which is more than which. You can't just say that without giving fact and figures. I will take that as a mere assumtion. Don't be amazed; he would have won had fued not broken out in his party prior the election.

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Match Two:OAU VS IBADANPOLY::Winner- IBADANPOLY by Nobody: 9:35pm On Jun 14, 2015
sammyscholar:
it is one thing that led to another @microflux. APC could not have won if not for the likes of Amechi and co who left PDP to form ally with the party's sworn rival. Amechi and is new party played vendetta politics against PDP (especially against jonathan) and vice versa. Pls what can you explain about political vendetta? Waiting.
do we nid to go back on dis, those listed above as d secret behind president Buhari victory cn nt b disputed, but when change is required, that is d best dey can di to serve deir fada's land.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Match Two:OAU VS IBADANPOLY::Winner- IBADANPOLY by Nobody: 9:39pm On Jun 14, 2015
sammyscholar:
south south/east are not left out. Or are you saying he performed more in those regions? Can you please enumerate all the projects he executed in all the six regions and let see which is more than which. You can't just say that without giving fact and figures. I will take that as a mere assumtion. Don't be amazed; he would have won had fued not broken out in his party prior the election.
he may have won it probably by manipulating the pples will by rigging but all dos were made imposibu by d introduced smart card reader. Feud is constant is nt just a yardstick to predict what led to his failure.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Match Two:OAU VS IBADANPOLY::Winner- IBADANPOLY by sammyscholar(m): 9:41pm On Jun 14, 2015
sammyscholar:
it is one thing that led to another @microflux. APC could not have won if not for the likes of Amechi and co who left PDP to form ally with the party's sworn rival. Amechi and is new party played vendetta politics against PDP (especially against jonathan) and vice versa. Pls what can you explain about political vendetta? Waiting.
still waiting @microflux. You and miracy are not saying anything about the bone of contention - political vendetta. Should I assume that you guys are bereft of the wit of the subject matter?

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Match Two:OAU VS IBADANPOLY::Winner- IBADANPOLY by Fynestboi: 9:46pm On Jun 14, 2015
You can start rounding up.....
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Match Two:OAU VS IBADANPOLY::Winner- IBADANPOLY by Nobody: 9:49pm On Jun 14, 2015
sammyscholar:
still waiting @microflux. You and miracy are not saying anything about the bone of contention - political vendetta. Should I assume that you guys are bereft of the wit of the subject matter?
bereft? Are u saying u did nt read my points?
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Match Two:OAU VS IBADANPOLY::Winner- IBADANPOLY by dam4wummy(m): 9:52pm On Jun 14, 2015
@OAU, if the 1993 election could be won convincingly (the north, south and west all with one voice), and the 1999 following the same manner, why was it not so with that of 2015?.

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Match Two:OAU VS IBADANPOLY::Winner- IBADANPOLY by sammyscholar(m): 9:55pm On Jun 14, 2015
And I ask you: if they had remained in the PDP, wouldn't GEJ have won again. It would have been the doings, will, and brain child of the masses if an underdog party had won. Not APC! Not PDP! There are other parties with great technocrats, why can't they win? I say it again: we are mere spectators. The script of the election was written by our politicians, not the common civilians.
Microflux:
do we nid to go back on dis, those listed above as d secret behind president Buhari victory cn nt b disputed, but when change is required, that is d best dey can di to serve deir fada's land.

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Match Two:OAU VS IBADANPOLY::Winner- IBADANPOLY by obayaya(m): 9:57pm On Jun 14, 2015
sammyscholar:
still waiting @microflux. You and miracy are not saying anything about the bone of contention - political vendetta. Should I assume that you guys are bereft of the wit of the subject matter?

I'd like to weigh in here...

you must understand that political vendetta only exist between the politicians themselves. The voters care less. All the voters are interested in are a better life for themselves and their families.

And they'll vote for a party that promises them that no matter the evil in the politician/party's heart.

That's the reality we find ourselves in today. Blame it on illiteracy.

Democracy cannot succeed unless those who express their choice are prepared to choose wisely. The real safeguard of democracy, therefore, is education. - Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Maybe we didn't choose wisely in the last election but we made a choice. And we'll have to live with it

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Match Two:OAU VS IBADANPOLY::Winner- IBADANPOLY by Tgirl4real(f): 9:57pm On Jun 14, 2015
Microflux:
smiles. U nid to understand that jonathan's administration failed woefully, most especially in the south west, and tthe northern part of the country. And the best they can do is to vote him out. Y can u even say the election is a vendetta, when the losser, Dr Jonathan confirm d election as credible, even after lossing. Accept the truth

Do you think Jonathan conceding defeat and confirming the election as credible (in your own words) should rule out vendetta?

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Match Two:OAU VS IBADANPOLY::Winner- IBADANPOLY by Crispels(m): 9:59pm On Jun 14, 2015
Greatest LASUITES!!!
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Match Two:OAU VS IBADANPOLY::Winner- IBADANPOLY by Tgirl4real(f): 10:00pm On Jun 14, 2015
@ Darrytoz,

Is your debate complete? I didn't see any conclusive ending.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Match Two:OAU VS IBADANPOLY::Winner- IBADANPOLY by Fynestboi: 10:01pm On Jun 14, 2015
Microflux kindly reply the question from the judge for clarification....
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Match Two:OAU VS IBADANPOLY::Winner- IBADANPOLY by Nobody: 10:02pm On Jun 14, 2015
dam4wummy:
@OAU, if the 1993 election could be won convincingly (the north, south and west all with one voice), and the 1999 following the same manner, why was it not so with that of 2015?.
good idea! It was nt so because the former president, was biased in his infracstural development programme, and the campaign strategy his party launched abt islamizing the country led to religious dispute.
North; mainly muslim voted muslim
East ; mainly christian voted christian
South west muslim and christian voted muslim and christian.
Bt d pples will prevailled
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Match Two:OAU VS IBADANPOLY::Winner- IBADANPOLY by darrytoz(m): 10:02pm On Jun 14, 2015
Tgirl4real:
@ Darrytoz, Is your debate complete? I didn't see any conclusive ending.
Yes. Read through my last paragraph.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Match Two:OAU VS IBADANPOLY::Winner- IBADANPOLY by Fynestboi: 10:05pm On Jun 14, 2015
Welldone all.
Debate is now ended officially. . . . results will be posted when ready.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Match Two:OAU VS IBADANPOLY::Winner- IBADANPOLY by Tgirl4real(f): 10:08pm On Jun 14, 2015
obayaya:


I'd like to weigh in here...

you must understand that political vendetta only exist between the politicians themselves. The voters care less. All the voters are interested in are a better life for themselves and their families.

And they'll vote for a party that promises them that no matter the evil in the politician/party's heart.

That's the reality we find ourselves in today. Blame it on illiteracy.

Democracy cannot succeed unless those who express their choice are prepared to choose wisely. The real safeguard of democracy, therefore, is education. - Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Maybe we didn't choose wisely in the last election but we made a choice. And we'll have to live with it

Many will still argue that it wasn't free and fair.

Secondly, the results showed that there were a lot of personal interests at play.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate:Match Two:OAU VS IBADANPOLY::Winner- IBADANPOLY by Nobody: 10:12pm On Jun 14, 2015
Tgirl4real:


Do you think Jonathan conceding defeat and confirming the election as credible (in your own words) should rule out vendetta?
yes. It should. Before d election he promise a free and fair election with transparency inclusive(which prof Jega did by sitting for almost four hrs in front of a national tv, collating d election result). In his conceeding speech he said "I promise free and fair election and have done that." what else? To be sincere dis is one of the best election in recent times ma.

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