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lalasticlala

1st speaker of OAU please you can now post your argument.

The youth is a metaphysical endowment, an essential factor, a structure and a conditioning which has nothing to do with history- Thomas Mann.

Ralph Waldo Emerson opined, “America is a country of young men”. This opinion fondly describes the role of young people in the strategic development of any nation. Today,America is another heaven on earth. If America is a country of young men, what kind of country is Nigeria?

Good day honourable chairman, inerrant panel of judges, distinguished and assiduous coordinators, fellow Co-debaters and my ever-genial and well-grounded audience. My name is Miracy, a representative of the ever-militant Obafemi Awolowo University and a proponent to the motion which states that, "The Nigerian Youth Can Make a Great President".
Nigeria to some is a failed nation-state that no longer has anything to offer her myriad citizens. It is obvious Nigeria represents a fantasy world where reality exists only in the printed and concealed lies of governance. Each time Nigerians lament about the sorry state of her dear nation, there is always a swipe at the failures of her past leaders and ineptness of her present leaders. The prospects of her future leaders dwindle., the young child sucks continuously from the contaminated breast of her mother country. The young people eat from the poisonous cake of a spoiled brat. Even the old folks are not left out of the party that announces lack in plenty. No doubt, Nigeria is a nation-state on the threshold of a looming political super storm. Who will save Nigeria from this looming danger?

A glance at Nigeria’s political history indicates that villains are still in power determining whatever happens to her polity. Youth unemployment rages like an inferno and corruption keeps heating up the fabrics of her infant society. Our youths are frequently denied their legitimate right to livelihood. The denial has resulted to gathering of youths in bars and restaurants to “drink and smoke” and at the end nurse a culture that encourages criminality and delinquency. After all, when a crime strives for so long, it becomes a culture. How will a myopic leader solve the farthest problem of his followers? How will a colour-blinded leader see the need for a true democracy and undiluted federalism?
Repeatedly, the old folks have failed to solve our numerous problems. It has compromised the security of her citizens for political gains. Nothing seems to work again in our dear country. The same thing is being repeated severally all in a bid to right the wrong. Now, we have failed our unborn children and we've mocked the useful toils of our heroes.For over. 100 years of existence and 54 years of national independence, we are still regarded as an under-achieved ageless entity begging to stay together. With all the natural resources and innumerable potentials, we are still crawling in terms of total growth and development

The question now is can Nigerian youths rule better? Can they really show our ineffective democrats what democracy should be all about? The inventive mentality, innovative proficiency and creativity that accompany the youthful naivety which goes against the creed of our old-fashioned rulers stand them in good stead for the huge task of overhauling the nation’s present challenges.. Will it be an easy task? Definitely No but it is a realistic objective.


The tag placed on the young as “leaders of tomorrow” is just a mere cliché.The youths have had their today and tomorrow strangulated by the old cargos that currently hold the reins of power while a large numbers of the less privileged youths are wallowing in squalor . Our fathers continue to recycle themselves in government instead of giving way for the younger generation. They made education, which most of them in the old western region acquired free of charge, almost unaffordable.
The older generation has refused to retire and quit the civil service so that the younger ones could be employed. Instead, they continue to hang on looting and spreading corruption which have battered the economy so badly. Those who ruled Nigeria in the first and second republics are still controlling the polity and economy of the country. For instance, Chief Edwin Clark was 35 when he was appointed the Minister of Information; today, at 83, he still determines who gets what, when and how in the Niger Delta. The former governor of Ebonyi State, Martin Elechi is over 85 yet, he declared that he would contest Ebonyi Central Senatorial District election. Chief Tony Anenih was appointed Minister of Works and Housing in 1999 and now he is still at the helms of power at 81. In 1979, Bamanga Tukur was the Governor of the defunct Gongola State (now Adamawa & Taraba) and years after he became the Chairman of the people's democratic party(PDP). The youths of today have no hope into the future! Where do we go from here? In 1983, Buhari was the Head of state and today, he's the incumbent President of the Federal republic of Nigeria .we claiming to be the leaders of tomorrow is a mere fallacy, or is it that our tomorrow is yet to come? Who's fooling who?.

Young people must rise up and be counted. Else, they keep living in disguise of a name that will never be. Youths are the building blocks of a nation. The stronger, more vibrant and politically aware the youths are, the more developed the nation is. Countries that had empowered the younger generation in the past are now better off. See the likes of David Cameron who became the Prime Minister of Britain at 43; one of his predecessors, Tony Blair, has already retired from politics at 63. Americans elected Barack Obama at 47. Dmitry Medvedev made history when he became the youngest President of Russia in 2008 at 41.

In Nigeria today, many youths at 36 are still single, looking for jobs whereas their mates are already presidents and prime ministers in European and American sovereign nations.

"Young people should be at the forefront of global change and innovation. Empowered, they can be key agents for development and peace. If, however, they are left on society's margins, all of us will be impoverished. Let us ensure that all young people have every opportunity to participate fully in the lives of their societies." -- Kofi Annan

References
Wikipedia.com
http://saharareporters.com/2013/03/11/why-nigerian-youths-must-take-stand-2015-abdulrazaq-o-hamzat

http://www.punchng.com/opinion/why-are-nigerian-youths-missing-in-action/

http://www.nigerianbulletin.com/threads/deny-old-men-the-chance-to-rule-nigeria-edwin-clark-charges-youths.106700/

Oxford dictionary

cool..... second speaker from OAU do the needful...

miscellaneous....


can you continue??

There is no doubt that the youths are said to be the backbone and strongest segment of every nation. Youth inclusion in government at all levels is imperative and crucial , as it is inevitable for any nation to prosper without its youths taking key decisions and making significant contributions in its government.
Nigeria is blessed with vibrant, talented and skillful youths who if given the necessary support would turn the country to an industrial giant. But what happens when the said backbone of this nation are relegated, neglected, under-nourished and denied the rightful duties and roles in shaping the society?

Good evening reputable chairman, panel of incorruptible adjudicators, coordinators, fellow Co-debaters, and my ever-amiable audience. I am samtolly4jesus,a representative of the ever-dynamic Obafemi Awolowo University, and I'm lending credence to the topic which states that, "The Nigerian Youth Can Make a Great President".

Youth is the time of life when one is young, but often means the time between childhood and adulthood ( maturity). It is also defined as "the appearance, freshness, vigor, spirit, etc., characteristic of one who is young", according to Wikipedia.

A youth could also be said to be a creature with virgin reasoning, fresh thinking and new ideas which are what is needed to make a progressive society, but unfortunately, all these qualities are missing in our government and the absence of which is denying Nigeria the impact of the youthfulness which would have ensured that the right action is taken for the right reasons and at the right time. So far, virtually all projects outlined by the government for the growth of the nation are counter-productive , it lacked the youthfulness that would ensure its proper formulation and realistic implementation.

It is a common knowledge that there is no consideration for the youths whatsoever in the calculation and decision making of Nigeria. This explains the reason why the same leaders who had governed the country in the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s are still the same governing the country today. For instance, the likes of Dr. Bello Halliru who was a commissioner in the Old Sokoto State (now Sokoto, Kebbi & Zamfara), years after, he became the minister of Communications from June 2001 to May 2003. Afterwards,he was Defense Minister from July 2011 until June 2012. Today, he was appointed the acting National Chairman of the People's Democratic Party of Nigeria on 25 May 2015; Major General David Mark (rtd) who was the military governor of Niger State in 1984, years after he became the Senate President; Gov. Murtala Nyako who was the governor of Niger State in 1976, years after, he became the Governor of Adamawa State; Ogbonnaya Onu was governor of Abia State in 1992, years after he became the National Chairman of ANPP; Gov. David Jonah Jang who was the governor of Benue State in 1985, years after he became the governor of plateau state; and Martins Elechi the former governor of Ebonyi State who is over 80 years old served as a governor from 2007 to 2015!

There's need to wonder about the fact that if they couldn't solve the problems of Nigeria then until now, can they do it now? I doubt it. Though, we need the experience of the old as guidelines , but definitely not them taking sole decision for the country as the leaders. The youths must take its destiny in its own hands one . The said old leaders have undoubtedly failed , they've ruled at the centre for years with nothing to show except corruption,sorrow, misery, hunger, insecurity, high cost of living , the demolition of the poor out of the society in the name of beautifying the city, increasing tuition to force the children of the poor out of institutions to remain backward and uneducated, destruction of the means of livelihood of the poor to create misery and hunger and hiding under the guise of development and creating a mega city. What is the essence of quality education when the children of the poor cannot attend it? What is the importance of beautifying the city when the people are ugly? How can the city be developed when the inhabitants are underdeveloped?

There is no doubt that it is the duty of the elders to prepare the youths for leadership responsibilities, but not in Nigeria, where the same leaders of the 70s are still struggling for power in 2015. The leaders of yesterday remain the leaders of today and of tomorrow contrary to what a popular political mantra would have us believe.

It's pertinent to state the fact that we've had exemplary youth leaders who have served as governors in Nigeria. For instance, the governor of Anambra state, Peter obi who became governor at the age of 41, he restored civility and order and rescued the state from lawlessness and dysfunctionalism . He uncommonly became a leader whose support goes above party differences, religious diversities and localities. The former governor of Lagos State, Babatunde Raji Fashola became governor at the age of 43,his administration marked a historic turning point in Lagos as the largest African city. Donald Duke, the former governor of cross river became governor at the age of 37, he has been praised for his contributions to the fields of agriculture , urban development , government, environment , information and communication , investment drive, and tourism. Through his work Calabar is seen as the "cleanest city in Nigeria" .

Furthermore, Nikola Gruevski became the Prime Minister of Macedonia at 36 in 2006. Today, Macedonia has risen from a periphery nation to a semi-core country in international politics. If men in their 40s could govern their states very much, then people in their 30s can do better.
There's no point keeping the age barrier used in contesting, for an elective post, everybody above the age of 18 should be encouraged to aspire for any post- president, senator or house of rep. Since youths form a majority of the citizenry, it's only wise and right that a youth should represent the interest of the majority.

It's obvious that Nigeria is suffering from the aggregation of marginal declines over the years which has clogged the wheel of progress. And it seems the older generation from the 70s and 80s have run out of ideas on how to reverse this decline. It is time for the youths to take charge. So, given the youths leadership opportunities will amount to providing solutions to the challenges facing the majority of the country, identifying the minor challenges on time and proffering the solution which can be better initiated and implemented by the youths to tackle both present and future development. The youths have the capacity of seeing new things, new possibilities, new opportunities and new path to be explored. They would see the new hope, new dreams, new future as well as bring in a new believe to end all anomaly.

Say no to gerontocracy...!!
God bless the federal Republic of Nigeria!!!

References
http://abusidiqu.com/can-nigerian-youths-lead-better-orukotan-ayomikun-samuel/

http://abusidiqu.com/can-nigerian-youths-lead-better-orukotan-ayomikun-samuel/

www.naij.com/318626-5-achievements-of-babatunde-fashola-as-lagos-governor.html

www.mynewswatchtimesng.com/2015-elechi-declares-for-senate-dims-egwus-chances/

Cambridge dictionary

Wow loving this.... No time to waste FUNAAB first speaker let have your argument...

Fynestboi:
miscellaneous....


can you continue??

No problem. In the last few seconds, I was in disarray as to the kick-starting the debate. . . Thanks for the hand. Let me be the captain from here. . .

Miscellaneous:


No problem. In the last few seconds, I was in disarray as to the kick-starting the debate. . . Thanks for the hand. Let me be the captain from here. . .

Cool...



Second speaker do the needful... Funaab.

Fynestboi:



Cool...


Second speaker do the needful... Funaab.

Done that

Okay! 5mins to go over opponent's argument……… and we ride on
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okay … let us begin

Let the rebuttal begin………

Miracy:
The youth is a metaphysical endowment, an essential factor, a structure and a conditioning which has nothing to do with history- Thomas Mann.

Ralph Waldo Emerson opined, “America is a country of young men”. This opinion fondly describes the role of young people in the strategic development of any nation. Today,America is another heaven on earth. If America is a country of young men, what kind of country is Nigeria?

Good day honourable chairman, inerrant panel of judges, distinguished and assiduous coordinators, fellow Co-debaters and my ever-genial and well-grounded audience. My name is Miracy, a representative of the ever-militant Obafemi Awolowo University and a proponent to the motion which states that, "The Nigerian Youth Can Make a Great President".
Nigeria to some is a failed nation-state that no longer has anything to offer her myriad citizens. It is obvious Nigeria represents a fantasy world where reality exists only in the printed and concealed lies of governance. Each time Nigerians lament about the sorry state of her dear nation, there is always a swipe at the failures of her past leaders and ineptness of her present leaders. The prospects of her future leaders dwindle., the young child sucks continuously from the contaminated breast of her mother country. The young people eat from the poisonous cake of a spoiled brat. Even the old folks are not left out of the party that announces lack in plenty. No doubt, Nigeria is a nation-state on the threshold of a looming political super storm. Who will save Nigeria from this looming danger?

A glance at Nigeria’s political history indicates that villains are still in power determining whatever happens to her polity. Youth unemployment rages like an inferno and corruption keeps heating up the fabrics of her infant society. Our youths are frequently denied their legitimate right to livelihood. The denial has resulted to gathering of youths in bars and restaurants to “drink and smoke” and at the end nurse a culture that encourages criminality and delinquency. After all, when a crime strives for so long, it becomes a culture. How will a myopic leader solve the farthest problem of his followers? How will a colour-blinded leader see the need for a true democracy and undiluted federalism?
Repeatedly, the old folks have failed to solve our numerous problems. It has compromised the security of her citizens for political gains. Nothing seems to work again in our dear country. The same thing is being repeated severally all in a bid to right the wrong. Now, we have failed our unborn children and we've mocked the useful toils of our heroes.For over. 100 years of existence and 54 years of national independence, we are still regarded as an under-achieved ageless entity begging to stay together. With all the natural resources and innumerable potentials, we are still crawling in terms of total growth and development

The question now is can Nigerian youths rule better? Can they really show our ineffective democrats what democracy should be all about? The inventive mentality, innovative proficiency and creativity that accompany the youthful naivety which goes against the creed of our old-fashioned rulers stand them in good stead for the huge task of overhauling the nation’s present challenges.. Will it be an easy task? Definitely No but it is a realistic objective.


The tag placed on the young as “leaders of tomorrow” is just a mere cliché.The youths have had their today and tomorrow strangulated by the old cargos that currently hold the reins of power while a large numbers of the less privileged youths are wallowing in squalor . Our fathers continue to recycle themselves in government instead of giving way for the younger generation. They made education, which most of them in the old western region acquired free of charge, almost unaffordable.
The older generation has refused to retire and quit the civil service so that the younger ones could be employed. Instead, they continue to hang on looting and spreading corruption which have battered the economy so badly. Those who ruled Nigeria in the first and second republics are still controlling the polity and economy of the country. For instance, Chief Edwin Clark was 35 when he was appointed the Minister of Information; today, at 83, he still determines who gets what, when and how in the Niger Delta. The former governor of Ebonyi State, Martin Elechi is over 85 yet, he declared that he would contest Ebonyi Central Senatorial District election. Chief Tony Anenih was appointed Minister of Works and Housing in 1999 and now he is still at the helms of power at 81. In 1979, Bamanga Tukur was the Governor of the defunct Gongola State (now Adamawa & Taraba) and years after he became the Chairman of the people's democratic party(PDP). The youths of today have no hope into the future! Where do we go from here? In 1983, Buhari was the Head of state and today, he's the incumbent President of the Federal republic of Nigeria .we claiming to be the leaders of tomorrow is a mere fallacy, or is it that our tomorrow is yet to come? Who's fooling who?.

Young people must rise up and be counted. Else, they keep living in disguise of a name that will never be. Youths are the building blocks of a nation. The stronger, more vibrant and politically aware the youths are, the more developed the nation is. Countries that had empowered the younger generation in the past are now better off. See the likes of David Cameron who became the Prime Minister of Britain at 43; one of his predecessors, Tony Blair, has already retired from politics at 63. Americans elected Barack Obama at 47. Dmitry Medvedev made history when he became the youngest President of Russia in 2008 at 41.

In Nigeria today, many youths at 36 are still single, looking for jobs whereas their mates are already presidents and prime ministers in European and American sovereign nations.

"Young people should be at the forefront of global change and innovation. Empowered, they can be key agents for development and peace. If, however, they are left on society's margins, all of us will be impoverished. Let us ensure that all young people have every opportunity to participate fully in the lives of their societies." -- Kofi Annan

References
Wikipedia.com
http://saharareporters.com/2013/03/11/why-nigerian-youths-must-take-stand-2015-abdulrazaq-o-hamzat

http://www.punchng.com/opinion/why-are-nigerian-youths-missing-in-action/

http://www.nigerianbulletin.com/threads/deny-old-men-the-chance-to-rule-nigeria-edwin-clark-charges-youths.106700/

Oxford dictionary

If this is about the Nigerian youth making a great president, not a great governor or minister, I think you have to recheck your point. And mind you, the Youth age usually range from 18 - 30 years. The United Nations even defines youth as persons between the ages of 15 and 24.

@Nunushokoto
I beg to differ that the popular dictum... Experience is the best teacher is misleading... The best and wise advice is to learn from others experience so as not to make the same mistakes made by our predecessors. The youths are in the best position to rule cos they've been watching, studying and have learnt from our fathers who failed... Don't you think that its best for the old ones to sit back and help in assisting the youths in ruling than taking over power....

Miracy:
The youth is a metaphysical endowment, an essential factor, a structure and a conditioning which has nothing to do with history- Thomas Mann.

Ralph Waldo Emerson opined, “America is a country of young men”. This opinion fondly describes the role of young people in the strategic development of any nation. Today,America is another heaven on earth. If America is a country of young men, what kind of country is Nigeria?

From your Essay, America elected Obama at the age 47 that is actually above the youth age range.

Miracy:
@Nunushokoto
I beg to differ that the popular dictum... Experience is the best teacher is misleading... The best and wise advice is to learn from others experience so as not to make the same mistakes made by our predecessors. The youths are in the best position to rule cos they've been watching, studying and have learnt from our fathers who failed... Don't you think that its best for the old ones to sit back and help in assisting the youths in ruling than taking over power....

The Nigerian youth that cannot rule a small group(such as the Youth group in a community) effectively without any issues of looting, and you want the same to rule Nigeria. My point is we youth are not really better than the old men.

Miracy:


"Young people should be at the forefront of global change and innovation. Empowered, they can be key agents for development and peace. If, however, they are left on society's margins, all of us will be impoverished. Let us ensure that all young people have every opportunity to participate fully in the lives of their societies." -- Kofi Annan

The question here is that can the Youth make a great president in Nigeria? We all know that the youth should be carried along the leadership role but not the most powerful post in Nigeria. And there are so many ways that a youth can participate fully in the lives of their societies other than being the President of the nation.

If I were you, I would do my best because after today………

pseudonomer:


If this is about the Nigerian youth making a great president, not a great governor or minister, I think you have to recheck your point. And mind you, the Youth age usually range from 18 - 30 years. The United Nations even defines youth as persons between the ages of 15 and 24.

That's an instance of showing the capacity of a youth if given a chance to rule.
According sub-Saharan Africa, the term "youth" is
associated with young men from 15 to 30 or even 35
years of age. Youth in Nigeria includes all members of
the Federal Republic of Nigeria aged 18–35.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youth

Miracy:
@Nunushokoto
I beg to differ that the popular dictum... Experience is the best teacher is misleading... The best and wise advice is to learn from others experience so as not to make the same mistakes made by our predecessors. The youths are in the best position to rule cos they've been watching, studying and have learnt from our fathers who failed... Don't you think that its best for the old ones to sit back and help in assisting the youths in ruling than taking over power....

Point of correction 'Experience is always the best teacher whether u are learning from someone else mistake or your own mistake'. And besides how will the youth watch and study when they are busy pursuing their careers and trying to settle themselves . How will a man be able to structure a country when he has not successfully structured himself. The elders are in the best position to lead because they have had a taste of the bitter and sweet side of life and they are in the best position to make decisions.