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Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Abba999(f): 9:42am On Jul 11, 2015
WombRaiders:


It's not that simple.

Muslims have been ordered to spread Islam to every corner of the world.

They believe that there are only two divides in the world . The House of Peace which represents the Islamic State and the House of War which represents non Muslim Nations. And they have been mandated to maintain constant war on other non Muslim nations.

Allowing the North to go full Sharia and independent will only lead to war on us in the south. They will strive for the next 1,000 yrs to conquer us just as they have been doing in South Kaduna and Jos with their relentless Jihad.

Once they get their independent Islamic State they will be in a better state to wage unrelentless jihad. The only solution to stop this madness is for Islam to disappear completely.

Don't get me wrong I want nothing to do with the north . I wish they will decide to form their own independent Islamic State and that is why I am silentling supporting Boko Haram who most of them Muslims tacitly support.

But make no mistake, once an independent Caliphate is formed up north we in the south will have to brace up for relentless attacks just as what Israel faces on a daily basis.

It thus means that we will have to be proactive, vigilant, militant and very much aware of the Islamic threat from the north and the soon to be conqured southwest.

Please I disagree with u my dear.

I still insist that being independence from the north gives us that sovereign power, right and world support to exterminate any invasion!
Has Europe, America, Far east Asia been invaded?
Please spare me long suffering and deadly one nigeria! cry

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Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Nobody: 9:45am On Jul 11, 2015
naijanaso:
NL Mods, what are you still waiting for to close this thread? Does this in any way try to solve the already imminent thrash we have found ourselves in as Nigerians? Use your brains pls.

I HEREBY DECLARE THIS THREAD CLOSED.

Why demand for the closure of this thread when you can easily refute what I posted?

Unless you can't refute what I posted for it is the plain bitter truth.

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Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Rilwayne001: 9:49am On Jul 11, 2015
Behold! how they invent a lie against Allah! but that by itself is a manifest sin! Quran,4:50

WombRaiders:


 
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" 

[b] In order to gain a proper understanding of many verses in the Holy Quran, it is important to understand and know the historic context of the revelations. So many revelations in the Holy Quran came down to provide guidance to Prophet Muhammad (peace be on him) and the fellow Muslims based on what they were confronting at that time. The verse 8:12 is one such verse which is misinterpreted.

This verse and the verses before and after were revealed about the Battle of Badr, which occurred in Arabia in the early seventh century. A battle in which the pagans of Makkah traveled more than 200 miles to Madinah with an army of about 1000 to destroy Muslims. Prophet Muhammad (peace be on him) and fellow Muslims had suffered severe persecutions and torture for 13 years in the city of Makkah. Despite signing peace treaty with them, they still went ahead to break it Surah Al-Anfal, Verse 56: Those of them with whom thou madest a treaty, and then at every opportunity they break their treaty, and they keep not duty (to Allah).
And now that they had fled Makkah and found a sanctuary in the city of Madinah, they were once again threatened. Muslim Army was only about 300 strong. God Almighty gave the order to Muslims to fight to defend their lives and faith. The enemy came to them with the intent to kill Muslims. It was a war to defend themselves and their Faith. It was a war imposed upon Muslims.

However, even during the war, Islam has the highest moral law of war. You don't kill children, women or any one who is not fighting with you.

In that same surah that you ignoratly tagged as a terror surah muslims are ordered not to fight if the enemy wants a peace treaty:

Surah 8, Verse 61:
But if they incline to peace, incline thou to it as well, and place thy trust in God: verily, He alone is all-hearing, all-knowing! [/b]

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Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Nobody: 9:50am On Jul 11, 2015
Abba999:


Please I disagree with u my dear.

I still insist that being independence from the north gives us that sovereign power, right and world support to exterminate any invasion!
Has Europe, America, Far east Asia being invaded?
Please spare me long suffering and deadly one nigeria! cry

Europe has been invaded already.

Liberal politicians are already accommodating Islam. The western media has been bought by Arab oil money so they play down the jihad.

Any European who condemns Islamic violence is termed a bigot.

Give Europe at most 20yrs and Rome will fall to ISIS.

I did not oppose the independence of a northern Caliphate but rather stated that once this happens we must be ready for war, now, in the near and distant future.

In future the mistakes the Europeans are making with Islam will befall our own children when they become to liberal with the threats and relax.

Once this Caliphate to the north is restored we owe it to our children to educate them of the ever present threat to the north and that they should never relax their guard.

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Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by ERODEDEAST(f): 9:50am On Jul 11, 2015
I keep wondering when dude say keep saying ISLAM fastest growing Religion why won't it be when your Prophet has ordered you to Marry four (4) wives and take as many women as sex slave. If you don't know you will think they are having converts every seconds. Hahahahahahahaha fastest growing Religion Indeed

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Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by abduljabbar4(m): 9:53am On Jul 11, 2015
WombRaiders:


Before Boko Haram began bombing mosques in what was a deliberate attempt to instigate sectarian violence in the north and thus usher in anarchy and an excuse to have a military coup overthrow Jonathan who were their main targets? Was it not Churches, Christians and southerners?

Also if we take what is happening in ISIS, Sunni Muslims have been engrossed in an inter-sectarian war against Shiites before including ethnic Kurds then targetting Yazidis before then turning on Christians. What is going on in Iraq and Syria where ISIS holds sway is not a jihad per-se but rather reformation of a Muslim dominated society towards Sunni brand of Islam.

Or how will we describe the crisis in Libya were Muslim fighters have forgotten their cause in overthrowing a long standing despot but have now turned their guns on each other over whose religious interpretation are best?

In my first post I pointed out that Muslims have no problem killing each other as can be seen with the 9 condemned by a sharia court for blasphemy.

How about the situation in Yemen which is strictly a sectarian conflict between Sunnis and Houthi Shiites?

Islam promotes war and instability even were a common enemy (Jews, Christians, Hindus) are not present, Allah has a way of collecting his blood levies from among you Muslims even if that means killing yourselves to appease his blood lust appetite.
So if boko haram was created to tarnish gej then what are they still doing now? And please boko haram was at first not created to cause any sectarian war.we know how they started. They were graduates who burnt their certificates and declared that western education is haram without any proof.
Boko haram will claim to be fighting christianity and bomb mosques

They claim to fight western education and yet bomb villages where there is no single school.
Let's stop decieving ourselves

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Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Nobody: 9:54am On Jul 11, 2015
ERODEDEAST:
I keep wondering when dude say keep saying ISLAM fastest growing Religion why won't it be when your Prophet has ordered yo to Marry four (4) wives and take as many women as sex slave. If you don't know you will think they are having converts every seconds. Hahahahahahahaha fastest growing Religion Indeed

The world has been experiencing a resurgence of gonorhea because of the emergence of drug resistant strains but that doesn't make gonorhea a good thing or does it?

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Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by abduljabbar4(m): 9:57am On Jul 11, 2015
Rilwayne001:
Behold! how they invent a lie against Allah! but that by itself is a manifest sin! Quran,4:50



[b] In order to gain a proper understanding of many verses in the Holy Quran, it is important to understand and know the historic context of the revelations. So many revelations in the Holy Quran came down to provide guidance to Prophet Muhammad (peace be on him) and the fellow Muslims based on what they were confronting at that time. The verse 8:12 is one such verse which is misinterpreted.

This verse and the verses before and after were revealed about the Battle of Badr, which occurred in Arabia in the early seventh century. A battle in which the pagans of Makkah traveled more than 200 miles to Madinah with an army of about 1000 to destroy Muslims. Prophet Muhammad (peace be on him) and fellow Muslims had suffered severe persecutions and torture for 13 years in the city of Makkah. Despite signing peace treaty with them, they still went ahead to break it Surah Al-Anfal, Verse 56: Those of them with whom thou madest a treaty, and then at every opportunity they break their treaty, and they keep not duty (to Allah).
And now that they had fled Makkah and found a sanctuary in the city of Madinah, they were once again threatened. Muslim Army was only about 300 strong. God Almighty gave the order to Muslims to fight to defend their lives and faith. The enemy came to them with the intent to kill Muslims. It was a war to defend themselves and their Faith. It was a war imposed upon Muslims.

However, even during the war, Islam has the highest moral law of war. You don't kill children, women or any one who is not fighting with you.

In that same surah that you ignoratly tagged as a terror surah muslims are ordered not to fight if the enemy wants a peace treaty:

Surah 8, Verse 61:
But if they incline to peace, incline thou to it as well, and place thy trust in God: verily, He alone is all-hearing, all-knowing! [/b]
Thank you sir!!!

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Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Nobody: 9:58am On Jul 11, 2015
abduljabbar4:

So if boko haram was created to tarnish gej then what are they still doing now? And please boko haram was at first not created to cause any sectarian war.we know how they started. They were graduates who burnt their certificates and declared that western education is haram without any proof.
Boko haram will claim to be fighting christianity and bomb mosques

They claim to fight western education and yet bomb villages where there is no single school.
Let's stop decieving ourselves

First of I have a thread here on the "Birth of a Monster" which details their formation.
Here it is:

BackDatAssUp:
[size=18pt]Birth of A monster[/size]

Mohamed Yusuf is widely accepted to be the original leader of the proscribed militant Islamic group commonly referred to as Boko Haram.

What most of you are not aware of is the original composition of Yusuf's inner circle which were drawn not from the vast population of poor ignorant masses in the north but from very educated young men of privileged background.

What most of you also are not aware of is that the radicalization of these young men did not begin with Yusuf or in some rundown Madrasah that dots northern Nigeria but in lecture halls in universities across northern Nigeria. They came to Yusuf because they could identify with his own very radical message.

The group gots it's nick name Boko Haram for its opposition of western styled education and mainly because the group was composed of young privileged and highly educated young men who turned their back on the world preferring a return to classical medieval Islamic society. Public destruction of certificates was done to woo more young men into their fold.

The group unsurprisingly continued to enjoy wide spread support among young northerners because of the energetic, vibrant and new perspective they offered. Within a short time, the group started to draw negative critism fom the old established clerics who not only frowned about their radical views but saw their own popularity wane in the midst of younger Muslims who preferred what Yusuf had to offer.

This critism will lead to both false and truthful allegations by the clerics to the authorities on the extent of the radicalization Yusuf was offering the youth. The security apparatus then swung in to investigate the activities of Yusuf and his group and severally he was "invited" to the police station to clarify issues. This only made Yusuf more popular among the youth and gave him an air of fighting the established order. The north was witnessing its first ever revolutionary character.

Yusuf sensing the new twist to his personality and movement will capitalize on his new found fame and status by pumping up the rhetoric even further. This is when the crooked politicians got to notice this young charismatic man. His popularity they (politicians) thought, could be used to their advantage and before long Yusuf added another feather to his influence and ego. With Politicians patronizing Yusuf and soliciting for his support base, things were bound to get to his head.

Here was this young man of humble background and limited education surrounded by children of the elite and the poor masses at his beck and call now getting visits from prominent local, state, regional and national political figures.

Before long the politicians began to use Yusuf's supporters to carry out violent attacks on their opponents for a fee paid to Yusuf off course.
This only made Yusuf more notorious with the security agents. But anytime he or any of his members were picked up both their highly placed political associates and the influential relatives of his Lieutenants swung into action to spring him out of custody.

Before long Yusuf built an air of impunity for himself and his members since they were always let go Scott free after any of their violent skirmishes within Borno. It didn't take long for concerned individuals to petition the DSS about Yusuf and before long he was picked up during the second tenure of Obasanjo and was held for a long period by the DSS. This was the time Yusuf met Asari in detention.

But eventually, Yusuf was released back into society and his aura had taken up legendary status.
This is a man that even the federal government could not convict.
From here on, grand delusions of grandeur began to set in and Yusuf thought he had everything at is disposal to take out the Nigerian state.

We thus, cannot exclude the influences of Yusuf's inner circle and their connections to the corridor of power in our polity in incubating the monster boko haram.

This goes to show that the Boko Haram insurgency has its roots in the northern oligarchy.

Abdulmutalab is a good example of how a young privileged and educated northern youth can become radicalized.

This is were the maitassine movement differs completely with that of Boko Haram.

The maitassine movement was drawn from the poor dredges of northern Nigeria. The maitassine movement was effectively dealt with because the northern oligarchy saw it as a revolutionary movement ( which it was) challenging their authority and dominance and as such this was why the group was completely isolated and summarily destroyed.

The case with Boko Haram is different as the group is intertwined with the northern oligarchy.

Secondly, the increased spate of attacks in spite of US cooperation to supply and allow us purchase weapons is because Buhari wants to force a peace deal on us and subsequently grant amnesty to Boko Haram. It is pure blackmail by Buhari and all these attacks are on his orders.

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Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Dannyset(m): 10:00am On Jul 11, 2015
This thread should hav been closed.

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Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Nobody: 10:01am On Jul 11, 2015
Dannyset:
This thread should hav been closed.

The thread is too dangerous by being to liberal with the truth.

It's called being Politically Incorrect but that doesn't make it a lie either.

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Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Emekamex(m): 10:01am On Jul 11, 2015
WombRaiders:


Where is the copy pasta here?

I guess you mean these verses I have taken from the words of your Prophet


9:5 Slay the idolaters wherever you find them.

9:6 Those who submit and convert to Islam will be treated well. (Those who don't submit will be killed. See previous verse.)

9:7-9 Don't make treaties with non-Muslims. They are all evildoers and should not be trusted.

9:11 Treat converts to Islam well, but kill those who refuse to convert (see 9:5).

9:12-14 Fight the disbelievers! Allah is on your side; he will give you victory.

9:23 Don't make friends with your disbelieving family members. Those who do so are wrong-doers.

9:29 Fight against Christians and Jews "until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low."

9:33 The "Religion of Truth" (Islam) must prevail, by force if necessary, over all other religions.

9:41 Fight for Allah with your wealth and whatever weapons are available to you.

9:42 Those who refuse to fight for Allah (claiming they are unable) are liars who have destroyed their souls.

9:73 Fight the disbelievers and hypocrites. Be harsh with them. They are all going to hell anyway.

9:81-83 Those who refuse to give their wealth and lives to Allah will face the fire of hell.

9:85 Those who refuse to fight for Allah will be treated (along with their children) as unbelievers.

9:111 Believers must fight for Allah. They must kill and be killed. Allah will reward them for it.

9:123 Fight disbelievers who are near you, and let them see the harshness in you.

But this verses are clear and simple, how come people always say extremists misinterpret them?

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Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Ahmed4002(m): 10:04am On Jul 11, 2015
Islamic thought includes all educational endeavors and scholarly opinions made in distinguishing Islam’s core principles, its simplicity and its tenderness and compassion in its approach to all aspects of human relations. Today there are many individuals just like the op who study Islam from a superficial point of view and emerge with their own ideas and imaginary interpretations which often diverge greatly from the established legislation in the area of study. Because of such studies lacking a true basis in Islamic jurisprudence, many non-Muslims are given a bad understanding about Islam.

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Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Nobody: 10:08am On Jul 11, 2015
Ahmed4002:
Islamic thought includes all educational
endeavors and scholarly opinions made in
distinguishing Islam’s core principles, its
simplicity and its tenderness and compassion in
its approach to all aspects of human relations.
Today there are many individuals just like the op who study
Islam from a superficial point of view and
emerge with their own ideas and imaginary
interpretations which often diverge greatly
from the established legislation in the area of
study. Because of such studies lacking a true
basis in Islamic jurisprudence, many non-Muslims
are given a bad understanding about Islam.

So you at least agree that I am a semi Imam when it comes to your religion.

Mind you there are two outcomes when one decides to read the Koran.

You either come out like me who condemns outright the violent doctrine and see the links to wide spread Islamic violence and there are those who will read it and go chop off the heads of non Muslims as clearly directed by your Koran.

Islam distorts the moral compass and even one's God given conscience for how can some one sleep peacefully after dedicating their young child as a suicide bomber ?

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Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Dannyset(m): 10:11am On Jul 11, 2015
WombRaiders:


The thread is too dangerous by being to liberal with the truth.

It's called being Politically Incorrect but that doesn't make it a lie either.


If all am seeing here is the reason why u created this thread then it's rubbish and should be closed. I don't know why u people like creating more problem. We already have handful of it, yet all u can do is to add more.
U are not even preaching the gospel maybe we'd say ur a radical evangelist.
Pls if dis is why u created this thread, I think u shld hav a rethink.
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by naijanaso: 10:12am On Jul 11, 2015
WombRaiders:


Why demand for the closure of this thread when you can easily refute what I posted?

Unless you can't refute what I posted for it is the plain bitter truth.

My dear I understand what you mean, but the responses that follow is what I am referring to. Read through and you will appreciate why I wrote thus.
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by abduljabbar4(m): 10:12am On Jul 11, 2015
WombRaiders:


First of I have a thread here on the "Birth of a Monster" which details their formation.
Here it is:



Secondly, the increased spate of attacks in spite of US cooperation to supply and allow us purchase weapons is because Buhari wants to force a peace deal on us and subsequently grant amnesty to Boko Haram. It is pure blackmail by Buhari and all these attacks are on his orders.

Funny enough, jonathans right hand man mr modu sheriff was among those politicians. And for your information, the U.S refused to sell those weapons because they first planned to rescue the chibok girls with gas but as they were trying to execute the plan, they saw the terrorists wearing gas masks. How do you expect them to trust gej govt?
You can use google to verify
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by virus04(m): 10:14am On Jul 11, 2015
abduljabbar4:

They did everything possible to do. Why do you think most of them insult muslims anyhow? Its because of frustration. They keep on failing and failing and failing

God punish you and your allah.. Idiot.. You just dey run mouth.. I hate it





























































Islam is a religion
































































Christianity is a lifestyle

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Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Ahmed4002(m): 10:16am On Jul 11, 2015
amaben2020:
I wish a war would ensue, let's place these Northern bigots and Islamic extremists where they belong

The Prophet invited the
unbelievers peacefully,
lodged protests against
their beliefs and strove
to remove their
misgivings about Islam.
When they refused any
other solution, but rather
declared a war against
him and his message and
initiated the fight, there
was no alternative except
to fight back.

Imām Mālik bin Anas stated in al-Mudawwanat
al-kubrā:
The first of what Allah has sent His Messenger
is to call people to Islam without fighting. He
didn’t give him permission to fight nor to take
money from people. The Prophet stayed like that
for thirteen years in Makkah, bearing all kinds
of persecutions, until he left for Madīnah.
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Nobody: 10:16am On Jul 11, 2015
Dannyset:

If all my seeing here is the reason why u created this thread then it's rubbish and should be closed. I don't know why u people like creating more problem. We already have handful of it, yet all u can do is to add more.
U are not even preaching the gospel maybe we'd say ur a radical evangelist.
Pls if dis is why u created this thread, I think u shld hav a rethink.

I have not seen the four walls of a church in over 20yrs.

I am a Christian but I am not a bible clucthing zealot either.

My opening this thread as you should able to discern was a response to Buhari's statement on Boko Haram not being muslim.

I don't really care who you worship or what your religion preaches but what I do care is that there are too many Muslims who will kill me in the north for not being part of their religion and most disturbingly there are far too many others who will excuse my murder as having nothing to do with Islam but will sooner or later blame me for not being a Muslim.

That is how it has been and that is how it will remain as long as you Muslims don't see that your religion promotes violence.

It is that simple.

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Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by abduljabbar4(m): 10:18am On Jul 11, 2015
virus04:


God punish you and your allah.. Idiot.. You just dey run mouth.. I hate it





























































Islam is a religion
































































Christianity is a lifestyle
You can hate me for bursting your lies. But on judgement day you will regret all this
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Ahmed4002(m): 10:21am On Jul 11, 2015
naijanaso:


My dear I understand what you mean, but the responses that follow is what I am referring to. Read through and you will appreciate why I wrote thus.

Removing all misconceptions and stereotypes in
clarifying the image of Islam held by non-
Muslims, building a trusting relationship and
working with them in ways that accord with their
way of thinking, are all primary forms of
Educational. Similarly, establishing a
strong community and nation which can fulfill all
physical needs of its people, thereby creating
for them conditions in which the message will be
heard, rather than being lost in the strife and
struggle of everyday life.

These foundations fulfill the Qur’ānic
injunction:
ﻭَﻟْﺘَﻜُﻦ ﻣِّﻨﻜُﻢْ ﺃُﻣَّﺔٌ ﻳَﺪْﻋُﻮﻥَ ﺇِﻟَﻰ ﺍﻟْﺨَﻴْﺮِ ﻭَﻳَﺄْﻣُﺮُﻭﻥَ ﺑِﺎﻟْﻤَﻌْﺮُﻭﻑِ ﻭَﻳَﻨْﻬَﻮْﻥَ ﻋَﻦِ
ﺍﻟْﻤُﻨﻜَﺮِ ﻭَﺃُﻭْﻟَـﺌِﻚَ ﻫُﻢُ ﺍﻟْﻤُﻔْﻠِﺤُﻮﻥَ
Let there arise out of you a band of people
inviting to all that is good, enjoining what is
right, and
forbidding what is wrong: and these it
is that shall be successful.
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Nobody: 10:28am On Jul 11, 2015
Ahmed4002:


Removing all misconceptions and stereotypes in
clarifying the image of Islam held by non-
Muslims, building a trusting relationship and
working with them in ways that accord with their
way of thinking, are all primary forms of
Educational. Similarly, establishing a
strong community and nation which can fulfill all
physical needs of its people, thereby creating
for them conditions in which the message will be
heard, rather than being lost in the strife and
struggle of everyday life.

These foundations fulfill the Qur’ānic
injunction:
ﻭَﻟْﺘَﻜُﻦ ﻣِّﻨﻜُﻢْ ﺃُﻣَّﺔٌ ﻳَﺪْﻋُﻮﻥَ ﺇِﻟَﻰ ﺍﻟْﺨَﻴْﺮِ ﻭَﻳَﺄْﻣُﺮُﻭﻥَ ﺑِﺎﻟْﻤَﻌْﺮُﻭﻑِ ﻭَﻳَﻨْﻬَﻮْﻥَ ﻋَﻦِ
ﺍﻟْﻤُﻨﻜَﺮِ ﻭَﺃُﻭْﻟَـﺌِﻚَ ﻫُﻢُ ﺍﻟْﻤُﻔْﻠِﺤُﻮﻥَ
Let there arise out of you a band of people
inviting to all that is good, enjoining what is
right, and
forbidding what is wrong: and these it
is that shall be successful.

It is not what you say but rather what you do.

If you truly want to promote trust then you must speak openly and clearly against Islamic violence.

The Rhetrioc of peace does not stop beheadings neither has it ever made a single dint in bombings.

Why is it so difficult to condemn the acts of your fellow strict adherents of Islam?

Isn't this because you know deep in your heart that the likes of Shekau are truly the poster children of Islam?

Is Jihad not mandatory to all Muslims? Is the establishment of a global Islamic empire not more important than promoting temporary peace with the Kafurs?

Do you Muslim not believe with the emergence of ISIS that Islamic domination will soon be achieved?

I am not in any way mocking you . Just answer these questions truthfully.

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Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by ERODEDEAST(f): 10:30am On Jul 11, 2015
@WombRaiders, When you hear people saying "this thread should be closed" You know they are not ready for the Truth.

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Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Nobody: 10:33am On Jul 11, 2015
ERODEDEAST:
@WombRaiders, When you hear people saying "this thread should be closed" You know they are not ready for the Truth.

And they have no answer against the Truth.

Buhari should not tell me nonsense.

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Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Ahmed4002(m): 10:33am On Jul 11, 2015
WombRaiders:


So you at least agree that I am a semi Imam when it comes to your religion.

Mind you there are two outcomes when one decides to read the Koran.

You either come out like me who condemns outright the violent doctrine and see the links to wide spread Islamic violence and there are those who will read it and go chop off the heads of non Muslims as clearly directed by your Koran.

Islam distorts the moral compass and even one's God given conscience for how can some one sleep peacefully after dedicating their young child as a suicide bomber ?

“Whoever indiscriminately attacks my Nation
killing the righteous and the wicked among them,
and fulfilling not a pledge made with whoever
was given a promise of security, has nothing to
do with me and I have nothing to do with him."
This portion of the hadith makes it abundantly
clear that if someone attacks a person whose
safety has been pledged by the nation's
government to uphold, the Prophet is abandoning
the attacker and dissociating himself from him.
For the believer, nothing could be more
distressing than for the Prophet to abandon him.

In a similar vein, the hadith where the Prophet
said:
He who gives a promise of safety to a man in
regards to his life, then kills him, I am innocent
of the actions of the killer, even if the one
killed was a disbeliever.
“What would we gain from killing them?”
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Nobody: 10:34am On Jul 11, 2015
amaben2020:
I wish a war would ensue, let's place these Northern bigots and Islamic extremists where they belong

So, would you like to be the first casualty?
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Nobody: 10:37am On Jul 11, 2015
Ahmed4002:


“Whoever indiscriminately attacks my Nation
killing the righteous and the wicked among them,
and fulfilling not a pledge made with whoever
was given a promise of security, has nothing to
do with me and I have nothing to do with him."
This portion of the hadith makes it abundantly
clear that if someone attacks a person whose
safety has been pledged by the nation's
government to uphold, the Prophet is abandoning
the attacker and dissociating himself from him.
For the believer, nothing could be more
distressing than for the Prophet to abandon him.

In a similar vein, the hadith where the Prophet
said:
He who gives a promise of safety to a man in
regards to his life, then kills him, I am innocent
of the actions of the killer, even if the one
killed was a disbeliever.
“What would we gain from killing them?”

I suggest you take this peace verses from the Hadiths to your Muslim brethren in Boko Haram.

They are the ones who need it not me.

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Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Ahmed4002(m): 10:41am On Jul 11, 2015
WombRaiders:


It is not what you say but rather what you do.

If you truly want to promote trust then you must speak openly and clearly against Islamic violence.

The Rhetrioc of peace does not stop beheadings neither has it ever made a single dint in bombings.

Why is it so difficult to condemn the acts of your fellow strict adherents of Islam?

Isn't this because you know deep in your heart that the likes of Shekau are truly the poster children of Islam?

Is Jihad not mandatory to all Muslims? Is the establishment of a global Islamic empire not more important than promoting temporary peace with the Kafurs?

Do you Muslim not believe with the emergence of ISIS that Islamic domination will soon be achieved?

I am not in any way mocking you . Just answer these questions truthfully.


The Prophet said, “there will be after me
leaders who do not follow my guidance and do
not follow my Sunnah, and there will be among
them men whose hearts are like those of Satan
in the body of a human being.”

In another narration, Awf bin Mālik ¦ said, “O
Prophet of Allah, do you recommend that we
fight them?” He said, “No, don't fight them as
long as they do not prevent you from your
prayers. And if you see from them something
that you dislike, dislike their acts.


what do you know about jihad?
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Nobody: 10:48am On Jul 11, 2015
Ahmed4002:



In another narration, Awf bin Mālik ¦ said, “O
Prophet of Allah, do you recommend that we
fight them?” He said, “No, don't fight them as
long as they do not prevent you from your
prayers.
And if you see from them something
that you dislike, dislike their acts.



From the bolded I now understand that you are not to condemn barbaric acts of your fellow Muslims like Shekau.

So this injunction clearly states why you Muslims are not ready to confront ISIS and Boko Haram.

This is why I stated in my first post that you Muslims have since removed yourself from the responsibility of preventing radicalization and Islamic extremism but will rather simply look for others to blame even where members of these aforementioned Islamic Terrorist organizations are Muslims .


I also understand that your prophet also condemned Muslims who refused in one way or the other to support jihad.


This is an Islamic website http://islamqa.info/en/46807 and it clearly states Islamic injunctions and doctrines that mandate all Muslims to participate and or support jihad.

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Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Abba999(f): 10:50am On Jul 11, 2015
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WombRaiders:


Europe has been invaded already.

Liberal politicians are already accommodating Islam. The western media has been bought by Arab oil money so they play down the jihad.

Any European who condemns Islamic violence is termed a bigot.

Give Europe at most 20yrs and Rome will fall to ISIS.

I did not oppose the independence of a northern Caliphate but rather stated that once this happens we must be ready for war, now, in the near and distant future.

In future the mistakes the Europeans are making with Islam will befall our own children when they become to liberal with the threats and relax.

Once this Caliphate to the north is restored we owe it to our children to educate them of the ever present threat to the north and that they should never relax their guard.
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That war I prefer than this nonsense we are facing today! angry
I am a woman, but I have a lion heart. lipsrsealed embarassed
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by ERODEDEAST(f): 10:51am On Jul 11, 2015
WombRaiders:

And they have no answer against the Truth.
Buhari should not tell me nonsense.
FACT!!!

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