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Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by beejaay: 3:41pm On Sep 07, 2015
Mindfulness:


Thanks a lot! Very insightful.

I think my own judgment of myself is what makes matters worse. You are very right.

judging oneself is the original meaning of sin...sin which is a latin word that means 'to miss the mark' (to miss the real reason for existence which is to live and feel)....forgiveness is to welcome love and acceptance back into our hearts not cause of fear of one scary fearful skydaddy or beacuse you are scared of a non-existence hellfire (well hellfire is another word for pain, its something we carry about not a place) but because the veil of illusion (past and future) scale off your eyes and ears and the embrace of the present moment.....
Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by Nobody: 4:33pm On Sep 07, 2015
beejaay:

judging oneself is the original meaning of sin...sin which is a latin word that means 'to miss the mark' (to miss the real reason for existence which is to live and feel)....forgiveness is to welcome love and acceptance back into our hearts not cause of fear of one scary fearful skydaddy or beacuse you are scared of a non-existence hellfire (well hellfire is another word for pain, its something we carry about not a place) but because the veil of illusion (past and future) scale off your eyes and ears and the embrace of the present moment.....

I am happy I met you here. It is hard to find people who are into this "stuff".
I know the original meaning of sin. I read about it many years ago but I came to understand it just recently.

How did you come across Mr Tolle?
Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by MizMyColi(f): 8:29am On Sep 10, 2015
Waiting is a state of mind.
You can improve your life situation, but you cannot improve your life. Many confuse their life situation for their life, hence creating a false sense of self which is the ego.
Your true self, your being, that inner deeper self buried somewhere in your subconscious which you are now tasked to bring to life daily; that self is Whole, Perfect, Complete...A perfect representation of all that is good.

You focus on your life situation - you're existing.

You focus on your life as described above - you're living.

Which would you rather choose?
To live in the moment with satisfaction and fulfilment?
Or to wait for the future with dissatisfaction and unfulfilment?

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Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by Nobody: 10:14pm On Sep 10, 2015
What is this tripe? Now you're highlighting and screenshooting the pages for us? God! I have the fùcking book already!
Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by MizMyColi(f): 9:56pm On Oct 06, 2015
True salvation is fulfillment, peace, life in all its fullness. It is to be who you are, to feel within you the good that has no opposite, the joy of Being that depends on nothing outside itself. It is felt not as a passing experience but as an abiding presence. In theistic language, it is to "know God" - not as something outside you but as your own innermost essence. True salvation is to know yourself as an inseparable part of the timeless and formless One Life from which all that exists derives its being. True salvation is a state of freedom - from fear, from suffering, from a perceived state of lack and insufficiency and therefore from all wanting, needing grasping and clinging.


[b]It is freedom from compulsive thinking, from negativity, and above all from past and future as a psychological need. Your mind is telling you that you cannot get there from here. Something needs to happen, or you need to become this or that before you can be free and fulfilled. It is saying, in fact, that you need time - that you need to find, sort out, do, achieve, acquire, become, or understand something before you can be free or complete. You see time as the means to salvation, whereas in truth it is the greatest obstacle to salvation . You think that you can't get there from where and who you are at this moment because you are not yet complete or good enough, but the truth is that here and now is the only point from where you can get there. You "get" there by realizing that you are there already. You find God the moment you realize that you don't need to seek God. So there is no only way to salvation: Any condition can be used, but no particular condition is needed. However, there is only one point of access: the Now. There can be no salvation away from this moment. You are lonely and without a partner? Enter the Now from there. You are in a relationship? Enter the Now from there. There is nothing you can ever do or attain that will get you closer to salvation than it is at this moment. This may be hard to grasp for a mind accustomed to thinking that everything worthwhile is in the future. Nor can anything that you ever did or that was done to you in the past prevent you from saying yes to what is and taking your attention deeply into the Now. You cannot do this in the future. You do it now or not at all.[/b]

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Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by MizMyColi(f): 10:37pm On Oct 06, 2015


LOVE/HATE RELATIONSHIPS


Unless and until you access the consciousness frequency of presence, all relationships, and particularly intimate relationships, are deeply flawed and ultimately dysfunctional. They may seem perfect for a while, such as when you are "in love," but invariably that apparent perfection gets disrupted as arguments, conflicts, dissatisfaction, and emotional or even physical violence occur with increasing frequency. It seems that most "love relationships" become love/hate relationships before long. Love can then turn into savage attack, feelings of hostility, or complete withdrawal of affection at the flick of a switch. This is considered normal. The relationship then oscillates for a while, a few months or a few years, between the polarities of "love" and hate, and it gives you as much pleasure as it gives you pain. It is not uncommon for couples to become addicted to those cycles. Their drama makes them feel alive. When a balance between the positive/negative polarities is lost and the negative, destructive cycles occur with increasing frequency and intensity, which tends to happen sooner or later, then it will not be long before the relationship finally collapses.It may appear that if you could only eliminate the negative or destructive cycles, then all would be well and the relationship would flower beautifully - but alas, this is not possible. The polarities are mutually interdependent. You cannot have one without the other. The positive already contains within itself the as yet unmanifested negative. Both are in fact different aspects of the same dysfunction. I am speaking here of what is commonly called romantic relationships - not of true love, which has no opposite because it arises from beyond the mind. Love as a continuous state is as yet very rare - as rare as conscious human beings. Brief and elusive glimpses of love, however, are possible whenever there is a gap in the stream of mind.The negative side of a relationship is, of course, more easily recognizable as dysfunctional than the positive one. And it is also easier to recognize the source of negativity in your partner than to see it in yourself. It can manifest in many forms:

possessiveness, jealousy, control, withdrawal and unspoken resentment, the need to be right, insensitivity and self-absorption, emotional demands and manipulation, the urge to argue, criticize, judge, blame, or attack, anger, unconscious revenge for past pain inflicted by a parent, rage and physical violence.On the positive side, you are "in love" with your partner. This is at first a deeply satisfying state. You feel intensely alive. Your existence has suddenly become meaningful because someone needs you, wants you, and makes you feel special, and you do the same for him or her. When you are together, you feel whole. The feeling can become so intense that the rest of the world fades into insignificance.However, you may also have noticed that there is a neediness and a clinging quality to that intensity. You become addicted to the other person. He or she acts on you like a drug. You are on a high when the drug is available, but even the possibility or the thought that he or she might no longer be there for you can lead to jealousy, possessiveness, attempts at manipulation through emotional blackmail, blaming and accusing - fear of loss. If the other person does leave you, this can give rise to the most intense hostility or the most profound grief and despair. In an instant, loving tenderness can turn into a savage attack or dreadful grief. Where is the love now? Can love change into its opposite in an instant? Was it love in the first place, or just an addictive grasping and clinging?

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Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by MizMyColi(f): 6:19pm On Oct 25, 2015
GIVE UP THE RELATIONSHIP WITH YOURSELF

When one is fully conscious, would one still have a need for a relationship?

Would a man still feel drawn to a woman? Would a woman still feel incomplete without a man?


Enlightened or not, you are either a man or a woman, so on the level of your form identity you are not complete. You are one-half of the whole.

This incompleteness is felt as male-female attraction, the pull toward the opposite energy polarity, no matter how conscious you are. But in that state of inner connectedness, you feel this pull somewhere on the surface or periphery of your life. Anything that happens to you in that state feels somewhat like that. The whole world seems like waves or ripples on the surface of a vast and deep ocean. You are that ocean and, of course, you are also a ripple, but a ripple that has realized its true identity as the ocean, and compared to that vastness and depth, the world of waves and ripples is not all that important. This does not mean that you don't relate deeply to other people or to your partner. In fact, you can relate deeply only if you are conscious of Being. Coming from Being, you are able to focus beyond the veil of form. In Being, male and female are one. Your form may continue to have certain needs, but Being has none. It is already complete and whole. If those needs are met, that is beautiful, but whether or not they are met makes no difference to your deep inner state. So it is perfectly possible for an enlightened person, if the need for the male or female polarity is not met, to feel a sense of lack or incompleteness on the outer level of his or her being, yet at the same time be totally complete, fulfilled, and at peace within.
Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by MizMyColi(f): 7:22pm On Oct 25, 2015


THERE IS PEACE

THE HIGHER GOOD BEYOND GOOD AND BAD

Is there a difference between happiness and inner peace?


Yes. Happiness depends on conditions being perceived as positive; inner peace does not.

Is it not possible to attract only positive conditions into our life?
If our attitude and our thinking are always positive, we would manifest only positive events and situations, wouldn't we?


Do you truly know what is positive and what is negative? Do you have the total picture? There have been many people for whom limitation, failure, loss, illness, or pain in whatever form turned out to be their greatest teacher. It taught them to let go of false self-images and superficial ego-dictated goals and desires. It gave them depth, humility, and compassion.
It made them more real.Whenever anything negative happens to you, there is a deep lesson concealed within it, although you may not see it at the time.

Even a brief illness or an accident can show you what is real and unreal in your life, what ultimately matters and what doesn't. Seen from a higher perspective, conditions are always positive. To be more precise: they are neither positive nor negative. They are as they are. And when you live in complete acceptance of what is - which is the only sane way to live - there is no "good" or "bad" in your life anymore. There is only a higher good - which includes the "bad." Seen from the perspective of the mind, however, there is good-bad, like-dislike, love-hate.

Hence, in the Book of Genesis, it is said that Adam and Eve were no longer allowed to dwell in "paradise" when they "ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil."

This sounds to me like denial and self-deception. When something dreadful happens to me or someone close to me - accident, illness, pain of some kind or death - I can pretend that it isn't bad, but the fact remains that it is bad, so why deny it?

You are not pretending anything. You are allowing it to be as it is, that's all. This "allowing to be" takes you beyond the mind with its resistance patterns that create the positive-negative polarities. It is an essential aspect of forgiveness. Forgiveness of the present is even more important than forgiveness of the past. If you forgive every moment - allow it to be as it is - then there will be no accumulation of resentment that needs to be forgiven at some later time. Remember that we are not talking about happiness here. For example, when a loved one has just died, or you feel your own death approaching, you cannot be happy. It is impossible. But you can be at peace. There may be sadness and tears, but provided that you have relinquished resistance, underneath the sadness you will feel a deep serenity, a stillness, a sacred presence. This is the emanation of Being, this is inner peace, the good that has no opposite.

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Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by MizMyColi(f): 7:52am On Oct 26, 2015
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I didn't wanna post on that thread

Have you noticed that you have this need to be seen as right in these issues?
You should have a rethink. It is a form of violence.

You need to watch out for any tendency to mindfully defend an entity or image with some voracious passion. If you take a step back and watch your mind in that particular state of unconsciousness, you will be able to dis-identify from such tendencies, as your consciousness of being from which love, joy, peace and everything good flows from.

This is the end of all arguments and POWER GAMES, which are so corrosive to relationships.

Remember this always, Power over others is weakness disguised as strength. True power is within, and it is available to you now.‎
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You've made your point already.
Now is a time to employ the virtue of self-possession and quiet strength.
It's beginning to border on enmity and violence. It should stop.
Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by MizMyColi(f): 10:34am On Nov 08, 2015
THE END OF YOUR LIFE DRAMA


In that state of acceptance and inner peace, even though you may not call it "bad," can anything still come into your life that would be called "bad" from a perspective of ordinary consciousness?


Most of the so-called bad things that happen in people's lives are due to unconsciousness. They are self-created, or rather ego-created. I sometimes refer to those things as "drama." When you are fully conscious, drama does not come into your life anymore. Let me remind you briefly how the ego operates and how it creates drama.

Ego is the unobserved mind that runs your life when you are not present as the witnessing consciousness, the watcher. The ego perceives itself as a separate fragment in a hostile universe, with no real inner connection to any other being, surrounded by other egos which it either sees as a potential threat or which it will attempt to use for its own ends. The basic ego patterns are designed to combat its own deep-seated fear and sense of lack. They are resistance, control, power, greed, defense, attack.

Some of the ego's strategies are extremely clever, yet they never truly solve any of its problems, simply because the ego itself is the problem.When egos come together, whether in personal relationships or in organizations or institutions, "bad" things happen sooner or later drama of one kind or another, in the form of conflict, problems, power struggles, emotional or physical violence, and so on. This includes col-lective evils such as war, genocide, and exploitation - all due to massed unconsciousness.

Furthermore, many types of illness are caused by the ego's continuous resistance, which creates restrictions and blockages in the flow of energy through the body. When you reconnect with Being and are no longer run by your mind, you cease to create those things. You do not create or participate in drama anymore. Whenever two or more egos come together, drama of one kind or another ensues. But even if you live totally alone, you still create your own drama. When you feel sorry for yourself, that's drama. When you feel guilty or anxious, that's drama. When you let the past or future obscure the present, you are creating time, psychological time - the stuff out of which drama is made. Whenever you are not honoring the present moment by allowing it to be, you are creating drama.

Most people are in love with their particular life drama. Their story is their identity. The ego runs their life. They have their whole sense of self invested in it. Even their - usually unsuccessful - search for an answer, a solution, or for healing becomes part of it. What they fear and resist most is the end of their drama. As long as they are their mind, what they fear and resist most is their own awakening. When you live in complete acceptance of what is, that is the end of all drama in your life.

[color=770077]Nobody can even have an argument with you, no matter how hard he or she tries. You cannot have an argument with a fully conscious person. An argument implies identification with your mind and a mental position, as well as resistance and reaction to the other person's position.[/color] The result is that the polar opposites become mutually energized. These are the mechanics of unconsciousness. You can still make your point clearly and firmly, but there will be no reactive force behind it, no defense or attack. So it won’t turn into drama.

When you are fully conscious, you cease to be in conflict. "No one who is at one with himself can even conceive of conflict," states A Course in Miracles. This refers not only to conflict with other people but more fundamentally to conflict within you, which ceases when there is no longer any clash between the demands and expectations of your mind and what is.
Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by MizMyColi(f): 10:52am On Nov 08, 2015
IMPERMANENCE AND THE CYCLES OF LIFE

However, as long as you are in the physical dimension and linked to the collective human psyche, physical pain - although rare - is still possible. This is not to be confused with suffering, with mental-emotional pain. All suffering is ego-created and is due to resistance. Also, as long as you are in this dimension, you are still subject to its cyclical nature and to the law of impermanence of all things, but you no longer perceive this as "bad" - it just is.Through allowing the "isness" of all things, a deeper dimension underneath the play of opposites reveals itself to you as an abiding presence, an unchanging deep stillness, an uncaused joy beyond good and bad. This is the joy of Being, the peace of God.On the level of form, there is birth and death, creation and destruction, growth and dissolution, of seemingly separate forms. This is reflected everywhere: in the life cycle of a star or a planet, a physical body, a tree, a flower, in the rise and fall of nations, political systems, civilizations; and in the inevitable cycles of gain and loss in the life of an individual.There are cycles of success, when things come to you and thrive, and cycles of failure, when they wither or disintegrate and you have to let them go in order to make room for new things to arise, or for transformation to happen. If you cling and resist at that point, it means you are refusing to go with the flow of life, and you will suffer.It is not true that the up cycle is good and the down cycle bad, except in the mind's
judgment. Growth is usually considered positive, but nothing can grow forever. If growth, of whatever kind, were to go on and on, it would eventually become monstrous and destructive. Dissolution is needed for new growth to happen. One cannot exist without the other.The down cycle is absolutely essential for spiritual realization. You must have failed deeply on some level or experienced some deep loss or pain to be drawn to the spiritual dimension. Or perhaps your very success became empty and meaningless and so turned out to be failure. Failure lies concealed in every success, and success in every failure. In this world, which is to say on the level of form, everybody "fails" sooner or later, of course, and every achievement eventually comes to naught.

All forms are impermanent.You can still be active and enjoy manifesting and creating new forms and circumstances, but you won't be identified with them. You do not need them to give you a sense of self. They are not your life - only your life situation.

Your physical energy is also subject to cycles. It cannot always be at a peak. There will be times of low as well as high energy. There will be periods when you are highly active and creative, but there may also be times when everything seems stagnant, when it seems that you are not getting anywhere, not achieving anything. A cycle can last for anything from a few hours to a few years. There are large cycles and small cycles within these large ones.

Many illnesses are created through fighting against the cycles of low energy, which are vital for regeneration. The compulsion to do, and the tendency to derive your sense of self-worth and identity from external factors such as achievement, is an inevitable illusion as long as you are identified with the mind. This makes it hard or impossible for you to accept the low cycles and allow them to be.

Thus, the intelligence of the organism may take over as a self-protective measure and create an illness in order to force you to stop, so that the necessary regeneration can take place.

The cyclical nature of the universe is closely linked with the impermanence of all things and situations. The Buddha made this a central part of his teaching.

All conditions are highly unstable and in constant flux, or, as he put it, impermanence is a characteristic of every condition, every situation you will ever encounter in your life.

It will change, disappear, or no longer satisfy you. Impermanence is also central to Jesus's teaching: "Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust consume and where thieves break in and steal...."

As long as a condition is judged as "good" by your mind, whether it be a relationship, a possession, a social role, a place, or your physical body, the mind attaches itself to it and identifies with it. It makes you happy, makes you feel good about yourself, and it may become part of who you are or think you are. But nothing lasts in this dimension where moth and rust consume.

Either it ends or it changes, or it may undergo a polarity shift: The same condition that was good yesterday or last year has suddenly or gradually turned into bad. The same condition that made you happy, then makes you unhappy. The prosperity of today becomes the empty consumerism of tomorrow. The happy wedding and honeymoon become the unhappy divorce or the unhappy coexistence.

Or a condition disappears, so its absence makes you unhappy. When a condition or situation that the mind has attached itself to and identified with changes or disappears, the mind cannot accept it. It will cling to the disappearing condition and resist the change. It is almost as if a limb were being torn off your body.

We sometimes hear of people who have lost all their money or whose reputation has been ruined committing suicide. Those are the extreme cases. Others, whenever a major loss of one kind or another occurs, just become deeply unhappy or make themselves ill.

They cannot distinguish between their life and their life situation.

I recently read about a famous actress who died in her eighties. As her beauty started to fade and became ravaged by old age, she grew desperately unhappy and became a recluse. She, too, had identified with a condition: her external appearance. First, the condition gave her a happy sense of self, then an unhappy one. If she had been able to connect with the formless and timeless life within, she could have watched and allowed the fading of her external form from a place of serenity and peace. Moreover, her external form would have become increasingly transparent to the light shining through from her ageless true nature, so her beauty would not really have faded but simply become transformed into spiritual beauty. However, nobody told her that this is possible. The most essential kind of knowledge is not yet widely accessible.
Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by MizMyColi(f): 3:36pm On Nov 11, 2015

Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by MizMyColi(f): 10:45pm On Nov 12, 2015
If you pour a handful of salt into a cup of water, the water becomes undrinkable. But if you pour the salt into a river, people can continue to draw the water to cook, wash, and drink. The river is immense, and it has the capacity to receive, embrace, and transform. When our hearts are small, our understanding and compassion are limited, and we suffer. We can’t accept or tolerate others and their shortcomings, and we demand that they change. But when our hearts expand, these same things don’t make us suffer anymore. We have a lot of understanding and compassion and can embrace others. We accept others as they are, and then they have a chance to transform.

Thic.
Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by MizMyColi(f): 4:02pm On Nov 18, 2015

I have come to the realization that love is deep.

Now I understand why people say that Love is an acquired taste and that it doesn't exist.

For to truly love unconditionally, we must give up all sense of separatism and realize our oneness and consciousness with all life forms.

To truly love, we must connect to our higher selves.

Now this couldn't possibly happen in a day, especially given years and years of indoctrination based of cynicism and "self love"

It requires that we die daily to self, that we die daily to ego. It requires giving in every sense of the word.
Putting the best interests of others ahead of our ego and need to be seen as the best, always correct, holier than them all...etc etc.

Now that I think of it, it is near impossible to love.
I'm trying to convince myself otherwise by actually trying to practice love in it's truest and purest form.

Not so sure I'm doing excellently well at it, but hey, I'm on a mission. If it's conceivable, it's possible.
Who knows?!
That might just be my life's inner purpose.

I mean, there'll be times and days when I would choose selfish love over selfless love, there'll be those days when I'll scream..."Damn Love Menh!"

But this is a heart yearning...
I want to Love...y'know...TO LOVE!!
Not just this guy or a select few, but humanity, all of it.

Did I just hear a voice in my head tell me "You're Crazy"?
Oh well, I just might be.

Errmmm, I shouldn't be sharing opinions like this where it'd be dissected and diminished with contrary opinions....

But here's me hoping that this will stir someone too who's been having this aching to do right and noble by all men that they're not alone.
Heck, I got tears streaming down a corner of my face. That's how passionate I am about this...

Orrrr maybe, just maybe, I'm putting this out there, so someone can mention or call me and say, hey...you're not crazy, and I defo understand what it's like to be you right now.
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Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by MuttleyLaff: 6:49am On Nov 19, 2015
B4113y:
People say God's love is unconditional, he even killed his son (who was really himself) for us to all be forgiven?

MuttleyLaff:
Yes, God's love is agape, unconditional.
His Son (incidentally who really is Him, God) died for us. His Son was set up and killed by men but not killed by God

MizMyColi:
I have come to the realization that love is deep.
Which of the loves?
(i.e. is it: agape philia, storge, pragma, eros, tough, philautia or ludus)

MizMyColi:
Now I understand why people say that Love is an acquired taste and that it doesn't exist
Again, which of the loves?
(i.e. are you here, talking of: agape, philia, storge, pragma, eros, tough, philautia or ludus)

MizMyColi:
For to truly love unconditionally, we must give up all sense of separatism and realize our oneness and consciousness with all life forms
Love given unconditionally is the essence of agape

MizMyColi:
To truly love, we must connect to our higher selves
As...
if I have a faith that can move mountains,
2bbut do not have love (i.e. Agape), I am nothing.
3If I give all I possess to the poor
and give over my body to hardship that I may boast,
but do not have love (i.e. Agape), I gain nothing.
4Love (i.e. Agape) is patient, love (i.e. Agape) is kind. It does not envy,
it does not boast, it is not proud.
5It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking,
it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
6Love (i.e. Agape) does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
7It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
8Love (i.e. Agape) never fails

MizMyColi:
Now this couldn't possibly happen in a day, especially given years and years of indoctrination based of cynicism and "self love"
''self love'', as in philautia or is this good ol' narcissism?

MizMyColi:
It requires that we die daily to self, that we die daily to ego. It requires giving in every sense of the word.
Putting the best interests of others ahead of our ego and need to be seen as the best, always correct, holier than them all...etc etc
Love (i.e. Agape) doesn't sing its own praises. It isn't arrogant etcetera

MizMyColi:
Now that I think of it, it is near impossible to love.
I'm trying to convince myself otherwise by actually trying to practice love in it's truest and purest form.

Not so sure I'm doing excellently well at it, but hey, I'm on a mission. If it's conceivable, it's possible.
Who knows?!
That might just be my life's inner purpose
7Beloved, let us love one another, because LOVE (i.e. Agape) IS FROM GOD,
and everyone who loves has been FATHERED by God and knows God.
8The person who does not love does not know God, because GOD IS LOVE (i.e. God is Agape)
- 1 John 4:7-8

MizMyColi:
I mean, there'll be times and days when I would choose selfish love over selfless love, there'll be those days when I'll scream..."Damn Love Menh!"
No one has ever seen God.
But if we love each other, God lives in us,
and his love is brought to full expression in us
- 1 John 4:12

MizMyColi:
But this is a heart yearning...
I want to Love...y'know...TO LOVE!!
A new commandment I give to you,
that you love (i.e. agapate) one another:
just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another
- John 13:34

MizMyColi:
Not just this guy or a select few, but humanity, all of it.
Yeah. Agape and not mere pragma or philia?

MizMyColi:
Did I just hear a voice in my head tell me "You're Crazy"?
Oh well, I just might be.
If told: ''You're Crazy'', you arent the first (e.g. Jesus et al) and certainly wont be the last

MizMyColi:
Errmmm, I shouldn't be sharing opinions like this where it'd be dissected and diminished with contrary opinions....
Sharing is caring

MizMyColi:
But here's me hoping that this will stir someone too who's been having this aching to do right and noble by all men that they're not alone.
Heck, I got tears streaming down a corner of my face. That's how passionate I am about this...
John 11:35

MizMyColi:
Orrrr maybe, just maybe, I'm putting this out there, so someone can mention or call me and say, hey...you're not crazy, and I defo understand what it's like to be you right now
Someone, anyone...
What the heck! Ah feck it, everyone, everybody...

Truly, truly, I say to you,
unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone;
but if it dies, it bears much fruit
- John 12:24

Bottom line, the greatest and highest form of love is agape

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Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by MizMyColi(f): 10:05am On Nov 20, 2015
Lol.
Talking about Pain Body.
I just fed mine.

*modified*

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Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by MuttleyLaff: 9:52pm On Nov 20, 2015
Everyone who is anyone, with Him, is given a thorn in the flesh
that he might buffet such, so that such should not become conceited.
And if one time, two times or three times, such begs of the Lord concerning this, to remove it from one.
Each time He'll say:
"My grace is all you need: for My power works best in weakness.
Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by MizMyColi(f): 9:56pm On Nov 20, 2015
MuttleyLaff:
Everyone who is anyone, with Him, is given a thorn in my flesh
that he might buffet such, so that such should not become conceited.
And if one time, two times or three times, such begs of the Lord concerning this, to remove it from one.
Each time He'll say:
"My grace is all you need: for My power works best in weakness.

This has depth.
Perchance, was it meant for me?

I would appreciate if you explained further.
Thank you.
Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by MuttleyLaff: 8:22am On Nov 21, 2015
MizMyColi:
This has depth.
Perchance, was it meant for me?
I dont know.
I deffo dont have any no ''word of knowledge'' about that (i.e. was it meant for you)
Orrrr maybe, just maybe, I'm putting this out there sic

MizMyColi:
I would appreciate if you explained further.
Thank you.
Without trying to make a meal out of this,
everyone who is anyone, has some measure of a fly in the ointment to contend with

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Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by MizMyColi(f): 8:39am On Nov 21, 2015
smiley
MuttleyLaff:
I dont know.
I deffo dont have any no ''word of knowledge'' about that (i.e. was it meant for you)
Orrrr maybe, just maybe, I'm putting this out there sic

Without trying to make a meal out of this,
everyone who is anyone, has some measure of a fly in the ointment to contend with
Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by MizMyColi(f): 8:01am On Dec 07, 2015
beejaay:
truth is underneath all layers of labelling in all religions lies the profound truth.after sometimes in this ur journey u will realize that all religions and believe systems from islam,xtianity,judism,taoism and even atheism are all the same thing but with different form of attachment and interpretation..above,below and beyound all of their labelling and attachment lies a simple truth PEACE and that can only be achieved by being in the now.with religions being corrupted atheism is closer to that peace than theism

Hiiii
Good Morning.

Hello Mindfulnesssmiley
Good Morning From Nigeria.

Phew! Phew!

How do you get yourself to completely dissociate from anger at certain people?

Okay, this morning, I was angry. The pain body took over. I couldn't get self to dissociate from it.
I tried.
I was uncomfortable with being surrounded with such negative energy early in the morning.

So while in the bus on my way to work.
I made peace.
I made peace with my emotions.
I stopped fighting it.
I admitted that I was angry. I told myself that I know I shouldn't be, but I am. I accepted it, without holding a grudge at myself for doing so.

In that moment, I felt peace.
I could feel an excitement, coursing through my body. I felt it most on my legs.
I felt like reaching out to a partial cause of the anger and saying "Hey, I wish you well, have a nice day"...

I enjoy being self-possesed and relishing in quiet strength.

As I write now, I feel put back together, Lolz.

So...
I mentioned you two so you could just talk with me...
Maybe give tips on how not to ever identify with such emotions anymore...
Maybe tap from your energies tootongue
grin
Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by Nobody: 5:44pm On Dec 08, 2015
MizMyColi:


Hiiii
Good Morning.

Hello Mindfulnesssmiley
Good Morning From Nigeria.

Phew! Phew!

How do you get yourself to completely dissociate from anger at certain people?

Okay, this morning, I was angry. The pain body took over. I couldn't get self to dissociate from it.
I tried.
I was uncomfortable with being surrounded with such negative energy early in the morning.

So while in the bus on my way to work.
I made peace.
I made peace with my emotions.
I stopped fighting it.
I admitted that I was angry. I told myself that I know I shouldn't be, but I am. I accepted it, without holding a grudge at myself for doing so.

In that moment, I felt peace.
I could feel an excitement, coursing through my body. I felt it most on my legs.
I felt like reaching out to a partial cause of the anger and saying "Hey, I wish you well, have a nice day"...

I enjoy being self-possesed and relishing in quiet strength.

As I write now, I feel put back together, Lolz.

So...
I mentioned you two so you could just talk with me...
Maybe give tips on how not to ever identify with such emotions anymore...
Maybe tap from your energies tootongue
grin

Good evening my sweet soul sister kiss kiss kiss,

once you feel anger, it is futile to fight it because fighting it will make it worse, it will make you angrier. angry undecided
You have two other options here, you just accept it or you just enjoy it. grin
I have recently tried the last option of enjoying the feeling of anger and I burst out laughing. cheesy It worked for me. cheesy wink

I think that the best way to deal with different feelings, the pleasant and unpleasant ones, is to accept and allow them.
It is even better to practice how to embrace each and every one of them. I think the problem begins when we judge them or - even worse - when we judge ourselves for feeling certain emotions. Just let it be. wink kiss
Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by MuttleyLaff: 8:28pm On Dec 08, 2015
MizMyColi:
Phew! Phew!

How do you get yourself to completely dissociate from anger at certain people?
Anger isn't necessarily negative, anger can be right, can be healthy, can be "holy"

MizMyColi:
Okay, this morning, I was angry. The pain body took over. I couldn't get self to dissociate from it.
I tried.
I was uncomfortable with being surrounded with such negative energy early in the morning
Ephesians 4:26?

MizMyColi:
So while in the bus on my way to work.
I made peace.
I made peace with my emotions.
I stopped fighting it.
I admitted that I was angry. I told myself that I know I shouldn't be, but I am. I accepted it, without holding a grudge at myself for doing so
Anger is one of the emotions created for man. We are allowed to be angry. God has been recorded at one time or the other to be filled with anger. That aside, God, as God the Son, further demonstrated this emotion in a temple

MizMyColi:
In that moment, I felt peace.
I could feel an excitement, coursing through my body. I felt it most on my legs.
I felt like reaching out to a partial cause of the anger and saying "Hey, I wish you well, have a nice day"...
Righteous anger can be therapeutic. Bottled up anger, anger which is not released can be self harming or eat one up

MizMyColi:
I enjoy being self-possesed and relishing in quiet strength.

As I write now, I feel put back together, Lolz.

So...
I mentioned you two so you could just talk with me...
Maybe give tips on how not to ever identify with such emotions anymore...
Maybe tap from your energies tootongue
grin
Why would you want to curb a bona fide energy-in-motion.
It will be a crime to give you tips on how not to ever identify with such energy-in-motion

If done controllably, if done right, if done and forgotten about, as in not letting the sun go down with the wrath, you have no cause to worry.

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Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by MizMyColi(f): 8:55pm On Dec 08, 2015
Mindfulness:


Good evening my sweet soul sister kiss kiss kiss,

once you feel anger, it is futile to fight it because fighting it will make it worse, it will make you angrier. angry undecided
You have two other options here, you just accept it or you just enjoy it. grin
I have recently tried the last option of enjoying the feeling of anger and I burst out laughing. cheesy It worked for me. cheesy wink

I think that the best way to deal with different feelings, the pleasant and unpleasant ones, is to accept and allow them.
It is even better to practice how to embrace each and every one of them. I think the problem begins when we judge them or - even worse - when we judge ourselves for feeling certain emotions. Just let it be. wink kiss

Thank youuuu kiss kiss kiss
Bless you tons.

Sometimes, on this journey, progress could mean 3 steps backward.

Loolz, @enjoying anger
grin grin grin grin grin

I'll try that.
Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by MizMyColi(f): 9:01pm On Dec 08, 2015
MuttleyLaff:
Anger isn't necessarily negative, anger can be right, can be healthy, can be "holy"

Ephesians 4:26?

Anger is one of the emotions created for man. We are allowed to be angry. God has been recorded at one time or the other to be filled with anger. That aside, God, as God the Son, further demonstrated this emotion in a temple

Righteous anger can be therapeutic. Bottled up anger, anger which is not released can be self harming or eat one up

Why would you want to curb a bona fide energy-in-motion.
It will be a crime to give you tips on how not to ever identify with such energy-in-motion

If done controllably, if done right, if done and forgotten about, as in not letting the sun go down with the wrath, you have no cause to worry.


I guess this has more to do with years of conditioning.
The belief that we are meant to be happy go lucky always and never sad.

That aside, being a peacemaker by default, it just naturally upsets me when I get angry. I think of it as something unhealthy, like a virus that should be expelled by any and all means necessary.

I guess I've come to a time in my journey where I must embrace the so called "ugly side"
Make peace with it. Accept it as part and parcel of just being.

Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by Nobody: 9:36pm On Dec 08, 2015
MizMyColi:


Thank youuuu kiss kiss kiss
Bless you tons.

Sometimes, on this journey, progress could mean 3 steps backward.

Loolz, @enjoying anger
grin grin grin grin grin

I'll try that.

What does progress mean in this context? What do you want to achieve?
Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by Nobody: 9:45pm On Dec 08, 2015
MizMyColi:



I guess this has more to do with years of conditioning.
The belief that we are meant to be happy go lucky always and never sad.

That aside, being a peacemaker by default, it just naturally upsets me when I get angry. I think of it as something unhealthy, like a virus that should be expelled by any and all means necessary.

I guess I've come to a time in my journey where I must embrace the so called "ugly side"
Make peace with it. Accept it as part and parcel of just being.


I like what MuttleyLaff said about anger. I share this view. Anger is important. It is not an "ugly side". I will say more about it when I feel less tired. wink
Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by MizMyColi(f): 10:26pm On Dec 08, 2015
Mindfulness:


I like what MuttleyLaff said about anger. I share this view. Anger is important. It is not an "ugly side". I will say more about it when I feel less tired. wink

I was passively taught to think of it as something to be eschewed.
Like it's a sin.

Looking forward to thatsmiley
Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by MizMyColi(f): 10:29pm On Dec 08, 2015
Mindfulness:


What does progress mean in this context? What do you want to achieve?

Not in this context though.

Generally, I meant.

It's a good thing to master our emotions.
Sometimes we feel we have it a together, other times, we don't.
Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by Nobody: 6:43am On Dec 09, 2015
MizMyColi:


I was passively taught to think of it as something to be eschewed.
Like it's a sin.

Looking forward to thatsmiley

We were all taught all kinds of wrong things. It is time for A New Earth now. wink
Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by MizMyColi(f): 7:18am On Dec 09, 2015
Mindfulness:


We were all taught all kinds of wrong things. It is time for A New Earth now. wink

True that.

What's your take on the "sinfulness" of pre-marital sex?

Good Morning.
Re: The Power Of Now By Eckhart Tolle - Book Club/Spiritual Journal by MuttleyLaff: 9:23am On Dec 09, 2015
Mindfulness:
I like what MuttleyLaff said about anger. I share this view.
Anger is important. It is not an "ugly side".
I will say more about it when I feel less tired. wink
Keenly waiting to read it
and so here is Isaiah 40:29 for you

He gives strength to those who are tired;
to the ones who lack power, he gives renewed energy
- Isaiah 40:29

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