nynbrada:


Just a point of correction.
Yu said the early christians and apostles never called themselves christians.

Well i actually think that the reverse might be the case. As we can see from the following verse of scripture.

1 Peter 4:16 - Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on his behalf.
KJV

I've been enjoying your post though.

God bless.

MuttleyLaff:
Madam I've responded back twice
(i.e. via Nairaland and also directly straight to your mail address)
Shalom

malvisguy212:
1 Peter 4:16, "Yet if any man suffer AS a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify
God on this behalf."

there is something you don't understand here.
First, this is the ONLY place in scripture the word "christian" were use by a man of God,
Secondly, Peter did not label the followers of Christ a "Christian"
The word "AS" means "like or similar to," but it does not mean one is that word. For example:

Genesis 49:9, "...he couched AS a lion," does not mean Judah was a lion when he couched!

Exodus 15:5, "...they sank into the bottom as a stone," does not mean they were a stone when they sank.

malvisguy212:
Good morning my friend. Long time

MuttleyLaff:
Word up my brother,
No diggity, no doubt, you hit the nail on the head with the first, second and that pièce de résistance explanation. Thanks!

My dear brother, forgive me for not hailing you earlier and/or sooner

Mindfulness:
Sis, you should listen to The Wise Heart by Jack Kornfield (youtube). I am looking forward to your response.

MizMyColi, where are you?

Darrrlingg
I'm here

I didn't see this earlier
I'm looking it up right away

MizMyColi:


Darrrlingg
I'm here

I didn't see this earlier
I'll looking it up right away

Mindfulness:


Enjoy it!

Hehehe
My bandwith will bleed
I tried getting the e-book.
No luck per se.


So I settled with quotes from the book

You hold in your hand an invitation: to remember the transforming power of forgiveness and loving kindness. To remember that no matter where you are and what you face, within your heart peace is possible.

The words above gave me the kind of relaxation I'd sought for in 30 minutes of meditation earlier today.

Thank you
Back to reading

MizMyColi:


Hehehe
My bandwith will bleed
I tried getting the e-book.
No luck per se.


So I settled with quotes from the book



The words above gave me the kind of relaxation I'd sought for in 30 minutes of meditation earlier today.

Thank you
Back to reading

Mindfulness:


I call it perfect timing!

I am sure you will love it if you get it. There is so much YOU in this book.

interesting
I can download at the office sha

I'd really appreciate if you'll please remind me to do so, come monday

MizMyColi:


interesting
I can download at the office sha

I'd really appreciate if you'll please remind me to do so, come monday

Mindfulness:


I will.

I really recommend that you listen to / read the book instead of the quotes because it is more beautiful as a whole and because I know that you will enjoy it a lot and for selfish reasons (of course) so that we have new stuff to talk about my sister.


Have a lovely Saturday dear!

[size=3pt]I am going for lunch and then on a shopping spree in a few minutes.[/size]

Don't I just love the energy you're exuding right now

[size=3pt]I certainly don't mind tagging along....if I were physically within reach
[/size]

Mindfulness:


I call it perfect timing!

I am sure you will love it if you get it. There is so much YOU in this book.

Meanwhile Sis, is it normal to so miss someone you Love to an extent it kinda hurts....not hurt in a bad negative way o
Just that feeling of...something's missing....especially when they're genuinely crazy busy kinda.

I can't help but laugh at myself right now.
I thought I'd gone past the stage of "missing"

MizMyColi:


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Don't I just love the energy you're exuding right now

MizMyColi:


Meanwhile Sis, is it normal to so miss someone you Love to an extent it kinda hurts....not hurt in a bad negative way o
Just that feeling of...something's missing....especially when they're genuinely crazy busy kinda.

I can't help but laugh at myself right now.
I thought I'd gone past the stage of "missing"

Mindfulness:


Yeah, it is pretty normal. Most people feel like you at some point in their lives.

Is it ok for you to feel like this or do you desire to change it?

lol
Y'know most times when we overly miss those we love, it's actually actually part of us signalling us to get busy.



My friend would always say that there is neither good nor bad, and that darkness is a lower vibration of light.

I'm not "missing"‎ anymore

But, I think there's a lesson I'm supposed to learn.
Yeah, everytime we go through unpleasant experience, if we'd be more focused on the positive "why" than‎ the negative "why me"...we'd understand and react better.‎


My spiritual journey has been and is still teaching me what it means to die to self daily, to the ego....
Especially in my close/intimate relationships.

For some reason, most of us, prior to witnessing change in our lives are never true to ourselves when it comes to our intimate relationships.

You're missing your guy/girl, you know you're doing so badly....but for some egotistic reason, no one wants to reach out first...

The thought process be like
"I don't want him to start feeling like I love him/her too much - etc"

Lol

If anything, I learned today that it's human to miss and be missed. I learned it's human to show our vulnerability to those who really care about us.
I learned to "miss" without attaching labels and letting negativity breed.

It's funny though, cos as I write, I'm now the one being "missed"...
I had to take excuse myself to attend to stuff.

Well, there are better days ahead for every true and sincere heart, and I believe that it can only get better for us all.

Ultimately, only winning is allowed‎

Mindfulness:


I love it too.

[size=3pt]We would have a lot of fun. [/size]

Oh well

Impossible is nothing.

It'd be nice to take a stroll with the Angel being behind this handle someday.

MizMyColi:


lol
Y'know most times when we overly miss those we love, it's actually actually part of us signalling us to get busy.



My friend would always say that there is neither good nor bad, and that darkness is a lower vibration of light.

I'm not "missing"‎ anymore

But, I think there's a lesson I'm supposed to learn.
Yeah, everytime we go through unpleasant experience, if we'd be more focused on the positive "why" than‎ the negative "why me"...we'd understand and react better.‎


My spiritual journey has been and is still teaching me what it means to die to self daily, to the ego....
Especially in my close/intimate relationships.

For some reason, most of us, prior to witnessing change in our lives are never true to ourselves when it comes to our intimate relationships.

You're missing your guy/girl, you know you're doing so badly....but for some egotistic reason, no one wants to reach out first...

The thought process be like
"I don't want him to start feeling like I love him/her too much - etc"

Lol

If anything, I learned today that it's human to miss and be missed. I learned it's human to show our vulnerability to those who really care about us.
I learned to "miss" without attaching labels and letting negativity breed.

It's funny though, cos as I write, I'm now the one being "missed"...
I had to take excuse myself to attend to stuff.

Well, there are better days ahead for every true and sincere heart, and I believe that it can only get better for us all.

Ultimately, only winning is allowed‎

MizMyColi:




Oh well

Impossible is nothing.

It'd be nice to take a stroll with the Angel being behind this handle someday.

Mindfulness:



You can't love anyone too much, you can only need people too much.

Yeah, true that.

Needing people too much is actually a call to a pain or dysfunctionality within that needs to be addressed.

We tend to make it about the person, but usually it's about us.

Mindfulness:

All is possible. Be ready.

Okay na

MizMyColi:


Yeah, true that.

Needing people too much is actually a call to a pain or dysfunctionality within that needs to be addressed.

We tend to make it about the person, but usually it's about us.





Okay na

Mindfulness:


So love them too much and don't need them at all.
How? By being full of yourself and by celebrating each moment as if it is your last.

True that

We won't rule out the human factor though.
I think we need people to survive, and we form a level of attachment to those who reflect most of the love we receive.

Being full of ourselves while loving our partners, without needing them sounds a tad......

MizMyColi:


True that

We won't rule out the human factor though.
I think we need people to survive, and we form a level of attachment to those who reflect most of the love we receive.

Being full of ourselves while loving our partners, without needing them sounds a tad......

Mindfulness:



Do you need romantic relationships to survive?

Good Morning Sis

Certainly not
But we do need relationships to survive.

A romantic relationship is one of the many kinds of relationships out there

For some, such relationship might be what they need to move on to better stages in their life's journey, among other things.

They aren't totally unconnected.

MizMyColi:



Good Morning Sis

Certainly not
But we do need relationships to survive.

A romantic relationship is one of the many kinds of relationships out there

For some, such relationship might be what they need to move on to better stages in their life's journey, among other things.

They aren't totally unconnected.

Mindfulness:


Happy Sunday!

The irony in all of it is that people believe that they need a person / relationship to move on to a better stage in their life but once they have this relationship with this person, they don't feel better sustainably and then they blame the other one for their feeling of dissatisfaction even though they were feeling dissatisfaction long before they even met their significant other.

A relationship started from a place of emotional neediness will not and cannot develop into a relationship of emotional abundance.

MizMyColi:
Mindfulness Dear
Good Evening. I trust that your day is/went well?

I have decided not to frown over my not being able to download the book/audio.

The internet at the office was messy today.

I would prefer getting the ebook.
And I've been looking for how to get it FOC No Luck

For some reason, I'm always told I can't use my debit card to purchase stuff online lately.

Mindfulness:


It has been wonderful.



Very good decision.



Don't worry, you will soon open a thread on which we will discuss the content of the ebook.

Looking forward to that

lexaydfg:
An inspiring thread, with alot of intelligent post. Just download the ebook, i will be back to ask questions.
Shalom

Welcome

MuttleyLaff:
Yes, I posted that early christians and apostles never called themselves christians
and you ought to have known better not to use 1 Peter 4:16 for shoring your stance

You may think you're right, but you arent
as for this issue, 1 Peter 4:16 doesnt give a leg to stand on

Lets take a trip down memory lane,
the word ''Christian'' in Acts 11:26, in 1 Peter 4:16 and in other places, particularly such as in Acts 26:28, is/was not an endearing word
a word given by the Gentile in derision, to the Apostles, disciples of Jesus, early believers etcetera intended to make them seem of little importance or value

Little poetic licence about going on here,
as I am adding a fictitious detail (i.e. nigger) to 1 Peter 4:16 to make it more interesting
and hoping to make a point, as you give the edited version some serious thought or consideration:

Yet if any man suffer as a nigger, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on his behalf
- 1 Peter 4:16 edited version

Nigger is/was a troublesome word, a slur word, a word used to insult etcetera given to Blacks
Blacks never called themselves niggers,
and on a similar vein, the Apostles, disciples of Jesus, early believers etcetera never called themselves Christians
It was the people at Antioch, out of bewilderment and slighting
who in a contemptuous ridicule and mockery manner, started and/or first called the Apostles, disciples of Jesus, early believers etcetera called Christians

The Apostles, disciples of Jesus, early believers etcetera suffered as Christians (e.g. ridiculed, fed to the lions, burned at stakes etcetera)
and Blacks had some form of discrimination too and suffered as niggers during/in the Slavery and/or Racial Segregation era

nynbrada, saying if you suffer as a nigger, or as a Christian, isnt calling oneself or anyone else, a nigger or christian

Peter knew early believers are likely to have or be subjected to bad or unpleasant experience by a section of the society that calls and/or called them Christians (i.e. a derogatory term)
so he in effect penned that 1 Peter 4:16 verse, implying ''take it on the chin'' IF YOU SUFFER AS A CHRISTIAN
(e.g. if maltreated as a nigger christian, take it in stride)

People sufffer as niggers, get badly treated as niggers, but they dont necessarily go around and outrightly calling themselves niggers

MizMyColi:
Welcome