barcanista:
It is unfortunate that the APC fans have shifted their venom on the revered and respected Catholic Bishop of Sokoto Diocese Reverend Matthew Hassan-Kukah simply because this respected man aired a position as the Spokesperson of the Abdulsalam-led National Peace Committee. What is the offence of this noble man to warrant the blackmail and false accusation by APC... We all need to take an indepth review of the position of Kukah...

1. Investigation Should Be Done First

What Kukah was saying is that there should be investigation first! Investigation simply means approaching a matter with an open heart with the sole aim of establishing whether or not something has gone amiss. This is what is expected in a democracy

2. Probe Becomes Necessary After Investigation

You only probe after investigation has given a lead that an offence was committed. Probe is to unravel more facts that may be helpful during prosecution.

3. Speculations Are Unnecessary And Distraction

He was simply saying that rather than talking of probe by mere speculation he should do number 1 (above). It is a known fact that NOTHING will be established from any ACTION where the Investigator's sole aim is to see an accused guilty and not really to solve a problem.

4. "That Is The Expectation of Nigerians"

Firstly, you should investigate to ascertain whether or not something has gone amiss. Then you subject the indictees to probe (thorough investigation) to establish more fact and vital information that will help in prosecution. After these are done, you prosecute indictees using the established "fact" as evidence (along with witnesses) while the Judge pronounce guilt or otherwise of the accused.

Isn't this what ordinary Nigerians like some of us expect? Don't Kukah deserve commendation for speaking like a patriot and a democrat per excellence? Should we rather have Buhari continue with his everyday noise of probe? There is a process for everything!

Debunking Anti-Kukah Propaganda
I also want Nigerians to know that contrary to the lies peddled by a section of pro-APC media, Rev Kukah never asked President Buhari not to probe Jonathan, neither did he plead on behalf of Jonathan. In fact, he made it clear that the committee was never contacted by former President Jonathan. He was blunt when he said this some days back..

“Anybody is free to come to our committee, but President Jonathan never by telephone or by any other means sought to see the committee."
(PremiumTimes, Aug 12, 2015)
www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/188241-jonathan-did-not-lobby-our-committee-to-stop-buharis-probe-kukah.html

Another twist to this is that some people are accusing the man of building his house with Jonathan's billion. The funny thing about this propaganda is that they couldn't tell "HOW" it was possible for Kukah to 'eat the billions' considering that Kukah never held ANY political appointment under Jonathan. Are we now saying that a man of stature like Rev Kukah is unable to tell his congregation to build such "not so flashy" edifice? We all know how Christians donate their life savings for 'God's' project. So why should a whole Bishop of Catholic church's own be different?

Nigerians need to rise up for Reverend Hassan Kukah and defend our democracy. Today, it is Kukah, tomorrow it may be YOU!



May God Bless Us All

barcanista:
It is unfortunate that the APC fans have shifted their venom on the revered and respected Catholic Bishop of Sokoto Diocese Reverend Matthew Hassan-Kukah simply because this respected man aired a position as the Spokesperson of the Abdulsalam-led National Peace Committee. What is the offence of this noble man to warrant the blackmail and false accusation by APC... We all need to take an indepth review of the position of Kukah...

1. Investigation Should Be Done First

What Kukah was saying is that there should be investigation first! Investigation simply means approaching a matter with an open heart with the sole aim of establishing whether or not something has gone amiss. This is what is expected in a democracy

2. Probe Becomes Necessary After Investigation

You only probe after investigation has given a lead that an offence was committed. Probe is to unravel more facts that may be helpful during prosecution.

3. Speculations Are Unnecessary And Distraction

He was simply saying that rather than talking of probe by mere speculation he should do number 1 (above). It is a known fact that NOTHING will be established from any ACTION where the Investigator's sole aim is to see an accused guilty and not really to solve a problem.

4. "That Is The Expectation of Nigerians"

Firstly, you should investigate to ascertain whether or not something has gone amiss. Then you subject the indictees to probe (thorough investigation) to establish more fact and vital information that will help in prosecution. After these are done, you prosecute indictees using the established "fact" as evidence (along with witnesses) while the Judge pronounce guilt or otherwise of the accused.

Isn't this what ordinary Nigerians like some of us expect? Don't Kukah deserve commendation for speaking like a patriot and a democrat per excellence? Should we rather have Buhari continue with his everyday noise of probe? There is a process for everything!

Debunking Anti-Kukah Propaganda
I also want Nigerians to know that contrary to the lies peddled by a section of pro-APC media, Rev Kukah never asked President Buhari not to probe Jonathan, neither did he plead on behalf of Jonathan. In fact, he made it clear that the committee was never contacted by former President Jonathan. He was blunt when he said this some days back..

“Anybody is free to come to our committee, but President Jonathan never by telephone or by any other means sought to see the committee."
(PremiumTimes, Aug 12, 2015)
www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/188241-jonathan-did-not-lobby-our-committee-to-stop-buharis-probe-kukah.html

Another twist to this is that some people are accusing the man of building his house with Jonathan's billion. The funny thing about this propaganda is that they couldn't tell "HOW" it was possible for Kukah to 'eat the billions' considering that Kukah never held ANY political appointment under Jonathan. Are we now saying that a man of stature like Rev Kukah is unable to tell his congregation to build such "not so flashy" edifice? We all know how Christians donate their life savings for 'God's' project. So why should a whole Bishop of Catholic church's own be different?

Nigerians need to rise up for Reverend Hassan Kukah and defend our democracy. Today, it is Kukah, tomorrow it may be YOU!



May God Bless Us All

Saifullah01:
I am a very good fan of rev kukah, but I think I m with apc on my this one. The fact that even buhari's supporters are claiming that he is slow in closing in on corruption should tell everyone that buhari is following due process and investigations. So on what basis r the fears of peace committee based?
Everyone expected buhari to seize passports of politicians, jail them and 'umaru-diko' the ones overseas back to Nigeria. But alas he didn't, and they are still complaining!
As we speak the best audit companies are auditing the government revenue and cost centers so what's the problem.
Or do they just wanna say buhari shouldn't touch the cuurupt?

dearpreye:
And for those who are sentencing people without proven facts, when it's your turn to be lynched in the public without proven facts, may none speak for you.

God bless you, barcanista!

coolitempa:
Joblessness is for real....steewpeed thread......

ECOTERRORS:
Please this thread is not for your type, kindly go and look for your igbo vs Yoruba and Biafra vs Nigeria thread where your kind hold sway.


Thanks

oloyede252:

so who is taking her right and privileges away?the fact that you support Biafra is from the fact that you don't believe in Nigeria. so why bother yourself with her issues...



@topics what to do except from Nigerian politics as you are an expert in distorting a person personality so am quite disappointed in your wailing .if the bishop is of good reputation no matter how they try to damage his reputation he will come out good as pmb overcame his personality propaganda.or what do you think ......

Splashme:
Welcome Barcanista -
the slayer of APC e-frogs

Rilwayne001:

www.nairaland.com/attachments/2739269_clvrh3ow8aawwho_jpegb9410a887cc29efdba8c24c0caffdad6

francizy:


Barcanister, this is why they (ngeneokponu et al) hate you so much because you're the breeze from the east, opening and exposing their dirty (fowl) nyashes!!

funlord:


YOU know WHO? Church goer? 4 someone who claims 2 know him from kaduna catholic whatever, its suprising that all your views and comments in this section are always laced with ethnicity, tribal bitterness and twisted facts! You obviously did not learn "anything" from your association with him! Try and dispute this fact and I will shower you with at least 10 posts of yours that would nail you in public! I'm sure you remember my modus operandi!

erunz:
Nice write up by my leader here on Nairaland. So objective and straightforward. Well I remember after GEJ called Buhari to concede victory. Many APC e-touts and thugs said it was the hand work of Gen Abdulsallam, who we all know is a member of this commitee. If this same committee are now tell buhari to work the talk, and stop making noise abt probe and corruption. This is 5 months after election, the country is still on auto pilot. No direction we remain stagnant. And all we hear is probe! Probe! Probe! Can't this probe be done without noise. Bishop kukah has made his point and anyone not satisfied should go n die.

proud wailer and 5%

barcanista:
Cc: Lalasticlala Ishilove and Obinoscopy

Do the needful pls

francizy:


ECOTERRORS please take down your DP oh cuz the mastūrbators have started using it to do the needful..

funlord:


YOU know WHO? Church goer? 4 someone who claims 2 know him from kaduna catholic whatever, its suprising that all your views and comments in this section are always laced with ethnicity, tribal bitterness and twisted facts! You obviously did not learn "anything" from your association with him! Try and dispute this fact and I will shower you with at least 10 posts of yours that would nail you in public! I'm sure you remember my modus operandi!

kITATITA:
The so called Peace Committee selected Bishop Kukah to deliver a difficult message because of his reputation as a clean and upright person. I wonder the response if Pastor Oritsejafor had delivered same message to Nigerians. I know that the Peace Committee is struggling to get Buhari to keep to the terms of Jonathan surrender agreement. But I somewhat disagree with Bishop Kukah and Barcanistar. I think that the probe; or investigation can run alongside governance. There's no distraction.

barcanista:
I wonder how those people sleep at night. I expected more from them anyway because the lying liars(APC) are known for their devilish traits.

IdiAmin1:
1. I will pight kwurupshon and Fashola his bestman is involved in a 78million naira fraud yet no comment. Tinubu is shinning his brown teeth and Amaechi is busy doing agbero on the streets of PH with his wife.

2. I will make 1dollar=1naira yet dollar rigakwa na ahia while they are busy tracing stolen billions in Europe only on newspapers oo.

3. I will provide feeding for school children, umu ntakiri ekworo maka ya wubajuo na school yet ahunwekwe.

4. I will pay unemployed youths 5k every month, ma a ga promise ie enyim nwanyi blackberry phone, yet otu awu ezi.

APC is a scam and it's so unfortunate that Buhari, a man I respect for his integrity is mixed up in all these propaganda.

Saifullah01:
I am a very good fan of rev kukah, but I think I m with apc on my this one. The fact that even buhari's supporters are claiming that he is slow in closing in on corruption should tell everyone that buhari is following due process and investigations. So on what basis r the fears of peace committee based?
Everyone expected buhari to seize passports of politicians, jail them and 'umaru-diko' the ones overseas back to Nigeria. But alas he didn't, and they are still complaining!
As we speak the best audit companies are auditing the government revenue and cost centers so what's the problem.
Or do they just wanna say buhari shouldn't touch the cuurupt?

Delafruita:
first,I apologise for having to quote the entire post.

You made an error by saying a probe can only occur after investigation. A probe is actually an investigation but I guess in your rush to type the long epistle,you forgot that a probe panel or committee cannot deliver a judgement.that course of action can only be taken by the judiciary.you need to have a good understanding of what a probe means before writing your next epistle

A probe can be conducted without having to incarcerate any of the dramatis personae in the transaction or course of action that has become the focus of the probe.

Will a probe require any of this dramatis personae to give evidence or put up a defence?definitely

Does a probe automatically mean an establishment of guilt?no

Can a probe serve to establish the innocent of one,few or all the dramatis personae?yes

Does the muhamadu buhari administration really need to probe the past government of Goodluck Jonathan?I believe so and so do many Nigerians

Is there a possibility Goodluck Jonathan comes out innocent after the probe is conducted?yes

Does the fact that Goodluck Jonathan conceded an election he LOST mean that he should be shielded from a probe even when there is evidence of the wanton pilfering of our collective patrimony by his cronies and appointees?I believe only an ignorant person will say yes to this

What then is the justifiable reason to say a probe/investigation shouldn't be carried out?some will say because he conceded the election but that line of though will be a betrayal of the presumed sagacity of the average nigerian

Why then are the cronies and loyalists of the former president creating all sorts of storms because a probe is about to be carries out?I can assume it means they are quite aware their principal will be caught with his hands in the cookie jar.

As for the matters regarding Rev Kukah,I can't but Feel disgust at those circulating unconfirmed stories about revered man of God.its quite unfortunate that the internet has given an avenue to all sorts of buffoons to peddle whatever they desire.thebman has a right to own a house no matter how luxurious.every human has the fundamental right to pursue happiness whether in the guise of family,properties,cars or pretty women.I don't see how having a lovely apartment means the man's hands are tainted.such assumptions aren't just insane,they are a symptom of how poverty has made our youths debase themselves.I don't see what makes that sort of house out of the reach of a middle aged reverend father with a fairly good source of income.perhaps some don't know the catholic church is the richest in the world.it might come with a vow of celibacy,but except those who deliberately make a vow of poverty,been a reverend father doesn't translatebinto been poor

Rilwayne001:

www.nairaland.com/attachments/2739269_clvrh3ow8aawwho_jpegb9410a887cc29efdba8c24c0caffdad6

KingTom:

Baba e wan happen? Make I cc my goons?

funlord:


Sorry sir! But not everyone is a sex starved and desperate pederast such as yourself! If you have no quality arguments to make as regards to my accusation of your bigoted friend, why don't you kindly shut the _FUCK UP, move to another thread or GET LOST rather than keep embarrassing your parents in public like this!

barcanista:

If you can't understand my position then I'm afriad that you will not get it even if I should repeat it a billion times. Xavi, Puyol, Busquet, Pique etc played and still represent Spain despite their pro-Independent Catalunya position. Wanting a different State or even a state does not mean disloyalty neither does it mean giving up your right. Pls be guided!

funlord:



Lol! This 1 na political discussion oh no be cremation! I can see you are starving seriously 4 beef?

funlord:



Lol! This 1 na political discussion oh no be cremation! I can see you are starving seriously 4 beef?