All those empty houses tho

ijustdey:

Vice-President Yemi Osinbajo has disclosed that one major cement manufacturing company in the country had agreed to slash the retail price of the product from N4,000 market price to N2,600 per bag for the construction of the Federal Government’s mass housing scheme.

Osnbajo, who disclosed that 24 states have already provided 2,000 hectares of land for the mass housing scheme, added that 17 others have indicated interest in the spa solar Power Naija program under the Economic Sustainability Plan (ESP).

According to a release by his spokesman, Laolu Akande, these were some of the highlights emerging from a review meeting on the ESP implementation presided over by Vice President over the weekend.

According to him, companies Osinbajo negotiated with were Dangote Cement, Bua Cement and Lafarge Cement out of which at least one had agreed to slash the price.
https://www.nairaland.com/6546557/osinbajo-firm-okays-2600-cement

If this is true this is what I think happened.

The Federal Government has bought the production line from the cement companies for an agreed number of bags of cement for the Mass Housing Scheme. What this means is that the cement companies have agreed with the Federal Government to produce a bag of cement at N2,600 and this may be on the premise that the government will pay upfront for production to go ahead. No kam bia kwa business.

However, the cement companies may not be responsible for the lifting, transportation, warehousing, and further personnel cost of the cement. Further, the cement companies may not pay VAT and port charges for raw materials and spare parts for the number of bags as these are for the government and the government doesn't pay tax to itself. The UK government used this approach to buy all UK supplies of Covid-19 vaccines. It is a beautiful system if well implemented.

However, knowing the Federal Government as we know them, at the end of the day, after factoring in the above "hidden" cost and corruption, I can bet my last kobo that the Federal Government will get a bag of cement from the companies far more than the general public are currently doing.

If this story is true, it is just another media gimmick by this fantastically incompetent administration.

What’s happened is that osinbajo is borrowing ideas from OGUN state government. Lafarge partnered OGUN state to deliver cement at 2450 on all state govt projects. Osinbajo is following that line.

I said it few weeks ago that Lafarge love partnering indigenous projects.

The official price is below 3,000. The problem with Lafarge is their system which empowers distributors to determine their sales price.

diordaves:


If this is true this is what I think happened.

The Federal Government has bought the production line from the cement companies for an agreed number of bags of cement for the Mass Housing Scheme. What this means is that the cement companies have agreed with the Federal Government to produce a bag of cement at N2,600 and this may be on the premise that the government will pay upfront for production to go ahead. No kam bia kwa business.

However, the cement companies may not be responsible for the lifting, transportation, warehousing, and further personnel cost of the cement. Further, the cement companies may not pay VAT and port charges for raw materials and spare parts for the number of bags as these are for the government and the government doesn't pay tax to itself. The UK government used this approach to buy all UK supplies of Covid-19 vaccines. It is a beautiful system if well implemented.

However, knowing the Federal Government as we know them, at the end of the day, after factoring in the above "hidden" cost and corruption, I can bet my last kobo that the Federal Government will get a bag of cement from the companies far more than the general public are currently doing.

If this story is true, it is just another media gimmick by this fantastically incompetent administration.

how about government agents buying the allotted slots and using it for their builds or selling to family and friends at something a bit below market value

michlins:
how about government agents buying the allotted slots and using it for their builds or selling to family and friends at something a bit below market value

This is not impossible. I helped many people here get cement at the official rate from the state govt project.

The only thing Lafarge will do is ensure they deliver the cement to the project site. If you like sell it off, it’s none of their business so long they’re not the one selling it outside or any of their distributors.

There’s also fear of what if contractors sell off.

The truth is why will anyone sell off 2600 cement to buy 3500/bag because cements are distributed to contractors as the BOQ specifies.

You are about to buy casement windows, consider this below.

Buying or considering replacing your traditional windows with casement windows, these guides may be advantageous to you as a nairalander or a non nairalander.

We are all here to learn and reading this article now will give you an insight to some important things about Casement window which is one of the best most popular modern type of windows in World, other types of windows includes basement, bay, awning and louvers windows.

So let get started, let us share our ideals and experience as well.

Awning windows and Basement windows also look like casement windows but they are partially different in terms of installation but louvers windows are entirely different from all.

Casement windows are mostly made of aluminum.

In Nigeria we have different companies importing these products for making of these windows by the process called fabricating.

Tower Aluminum made in Nigeria is of the best, types of products imported to Nigeria, we also have, ebm & Co, thick imported, e.t.c.

The standard glass thickness for residential building is 5mm, you can choose to have a transparent glass, black, white or cream but all of this is a choice, but for security purpose the best one is the type that you can see people outside when you are inside in the afternoon or morning, but they can’t see you, they will only be looking at themselves as if it was a mirror they are seeing and in the night they can hardly see what is inside even when the light is on in the night expect the person is as close to the window as skin is closer to the bones in our body.

Casement windows are usually hung vertically with an opening window hinged from the left or right side of the frame. The opener can be inward or outward, but is more commonly installed with the opening element moving in an outward motion. Windows which open inwardly are usually seen in residential apartments or buildings where security and safety are an issue of concern or paramount.

Due to the simple construction and stout, ruggedness, staunch and sturdy frame, casement windows are known to stand the test of time, compare to all major types of windows, without repairs or replacement.

The Crank is the controller locker of the opening and closing of the window unit, if the crank is not well fix or attach, or the material use is not standard, then the crank is likely to fail at a very short time.

The biggest market for these casement windows is at Aluminum Village, Dopemu close to Egbeda in Lagos, Nigeria.

Casement windows can be embedded with net, and burglary, so there is no need of doing a separate burglary proof or net, when you are considering casement windows for your project, though there are some people that love to have their casement windows and net embedded together while they do a separate burglary that will be install separately but at the end you will end up spending more money than you need to spend on a single window that will have a casement, burglary and net embedded together.

If you are considering the casement, burglary and net embedded in the iron rod that will be use inside the burglary pipe is 16mm.

Important things to consider are Reasonable Price, Efficiency, Zero Noise Cancellation, Available in Different Designs and Color, Ventilation.

Reasonable Price
Casement windows are one of the best priced windows types, I can categorically tell you that a casement windows measuring 4ft x 4ft or 1.2m x 1.2m with burglary and net embedded together is around N40, 000 to N45, 000 depend on the sellers or fabricators, right now, without burglary is between N35, 000 to N40, 000.

Efficiency
Casement windows are one of the most energy efficient windows, the sash which is the framework in which panes of glass are set in the window, when closed form a seal around the entire windows frame, reducing or zero cancelling the amount of Air Leakage which can pass between the inside and the outside space, so your air conditioners can attach uppermost coolest of the inside house.


Zero Noise Cancellation
Zero Noise penetration or cancellation from the outside space is another added value for you when you install a casement windows, so whatever you are saying inside your room will not leak outside and whatever noise outside can’t come inside especially when you leave beside a church or a mosque, please remember I’m an Atheist, lol.

Available in Different Designs and Color
Casement windows is available in various variety of finishes and colors designs with range of accessories such as chrome, vinyl or brass crank handles, you can also add a range of optional extra such as surface grills and lead grills this makes the casement windows more attractive to the eye and less plain looking like sliding windows.


Ventilation
Casement windows provide good ventilation and usually allow two way ventilation methods, one which allows you to open the windows full and the other which allows you to open the windows by a way of centimeters instead. Either of this options is good for letting air into your house, particularly in the hotter dry weather or summer season like the westerner use to say.

Call 09039992385 or whatsapp.

For more info

hslbroker2:
You are about to buy casement windows, consider this below.

Buying or considering replacing your traditional windows with casement windows, these guides may be advantageous to you as a nairalander or a non nairalander.

We are all here to learn and reading this article now will give you an insight to some important things about Casement window which is one of the best most popular modern type of windows in World, other types of windows includes basement, bay, awning and louvers windows.

So let get started, let us share our ideals and experience as well.

Awning windows and Basement windows also look like casement windows but they are partially different in terms of installation but louvers windows are entirely different from all.

Casement windows are mostly made of aluminum.

In Nigeria we have different companies importing these products for making of these windows by the process called fabricating.

Tower Standard Aluminum is the best of all types of products imported to Nigeria, we also have thick imported.

The standard glass thickness for residential building is 5mm, you can choose to have a transparent glass, black, white or cream but all of this is a choice, but for security purpose the best one is the type that you can see people outside when you are inside in the afternoon or morning, but they can’t see you, they will only be looking at themselves as if it was a mirror they are seeing and in the night they can hardly see what is inside even when the light is on in the night expect the person is as close to the window as skin is closer to the bones in our body.

Casement windows are usually hung vertically with an opening window hinged from the left or right side of the frame. The opener can be inward or outward, but is more commonly installed with the opening element moving in an outward motion. Windows which open inwardly are usually seen in residential apartments or buildings where security and safety are an issue of concern or paramount.

Due to the simple construction and stout, ruggedness, staunch and sturdy frame, casement windows are known to stand the test of time, compare to all major types of windows, without repairs or replacement.

The Crank is the controller locker of the opening and closing of the window unit, if the crank is not well fix or attach, or the material use is not standard, then the crank is likely to fail at a very short time.

The biggest market for these casement windows products is at Aluminum Village, Dopemu close to Egbeda in Lagos, Nigeria.

Casement windows can be embedded with net, and burglary so there is no need of doing a separate burglary proof or net, when you are considering casement windows for your project, though there are some people that love to have their casement windows and net embedded together while they do a separate burglary that will be install separately but at the end you will end up spending more money than you need to spend on a single window that will have a casement, burglary and net embedded together.

If you are considering the casement, burglary and net embedded in the iron rod that will be use inside the burglary pipe is 16mm.

Important things to consider are Reasonable Price, Efficiency, Zero Noise Cancellation, Available in Different Designs and Color, Ventilation.

Reasonable Price
Casement windows are one of the best priced windows types, I can categorically tell you that a casement windows measuring 4ft x 4ft or 1.2m x 1.2m with burglary and net embedded together is around N31, 000 to N32, 000 depend on the seller right now, without burglary is between N27, 000 to N28, 000 plus.

Efficiency
Casement windows are one of the most energy efficient windows, the sash which is the framework in which panes of glass are set in the window, when closed form a seal around the entire windows frame, reducing or zero cancelling the amount of Air Leakage which can pass between the inside and the outside space, so your air conditioners can attach uppermost coolest of the inside house.


Zero Noise Cancellation
Zero Noise penetration or cancellation from the outside space is another added value for you when you install a casement windows, so whatever you are saying inside your room will not leak outside and whatever noise outside can’t come inside especially when you leave beside a church or a mosque, please remember I’m an Atheist, lol.

Available in Different Designs and Color
Casement windows is available in various variety of finishes and colors designs with range of accessories such as chrome, vinyl or brass crank handles, you can also add a range of optional extra such as surface grills and lead grills this makes the casement windows more attractive to the eye and less plain looking like sliding windows.


Ventilation
Casement windows provide good ventilation and usually allow two way ventilation methods, one which allows you to open the windows full and the other which allows you to open the windows by a way of centimeters instead. Either of this option is good for letting air into your house, particularly in the hotter dry weather or summer season like the westerner use to say.

Call 09039992385 or whatsapp.

For more info

Oga mi, some of us, especially old folks like me, like pictorial presentations

EgunMogaji2:


Oga mi, some of us, especially old folks like me, like pictorial presentations

u will see soon sir, attach to this presentation.

michlins:
how about government agents buying the allotted slots and using it for their builds or selling to family and friends at something a bit below market value

Very possible. This news shows that a bag of cement can't go below N3,000.

n3xt:


This is not impossible. I helped many people here get cement at the official rate from the state govt project.

The only thing Lafarge will do is ensure they deliver the cement to the project site. If you like sell it off, it’s none of their business so long they’re not the one selling it outside or any of their distributors.

There’s also fear of what if contractors sell off.

The truth is why will anyone sell off 2600 cement to buy 3500/bag because cements are distributed to contractors as the BOQ specifies.

A competent government will put measures in place to ensure the public/private individuals get cement at this price as part of the mass housing scheme.

diordaves:


A competent government will put measures in place to ensure the public/private individuals get cement at this price as part of the mass housing scheme.

A competent government we pray for.

But in the US, market forces decide the cost of items there and government can't decide for the market.

Am I wrong?

diordaves:


A competent government will put measures in place to ensure the public/private individuals get cement at this price as part of the mass housing scheme.

Afternoon famz, please can u get the increte stamp rubber of this pattern anywhere near abeokuta or where can I get it please. Thanks

Hello everyone.

May I know how much it takes to rent a Mack dump Truck for granite for a day in Lagos?
Are they more expensive than Howo trucks?

I'll be grateful if I can get quick answer. I'm about to make a financial decision in the next few hours.

Thanks

somehow:
But in the US, market forces decide the cost of items there and government can't decide for the market.

Am I wrong?

In the US government will not barn importation of cement when local production is not meeting demand. If the cost of cement is almost double within 12 months. Something is definitely not right somewhere.
The fact that the total production capacity in the country is far below demand. There is no competition for increased market share among manufacturers. Since you can sell all you are producing , there is no incentive for you to look for way to cut cost of production that will give you competitive advantage.
A competent government interested in serving the people will introduce control importation of cement to force the local manufacturer to up their game. Let assume the government set the control price at #2800. The moment the price hit #2800 they will allow importation for 6 months. What do you think will happen to cement manufacturers? they will find a way to produce and sell below the set price

Dijita:

In the US government will not barn importation of cement when local production is not meeting demand. If the cost of cement is almost double within 12 months. Something is definitely not right somewhere.
The fact that the total production capacity in the country is far below demand. There is no competition for increased market share among manufacturers. Since you can sell all you are producing , there is no incentive for you to look for way to cut cost of production that will give you competitive advantage.
A competent government interested in serving the people will introduce control importation of cement to force the local manufacturer to up their game. Let assume the government set the control price at #2800. The moment the price hit #2800 they will allow importation for 6 months. What do you think will happen to cement manufacturers? they will find a way to produce and sell below the set price

Government banned it to save the country from becoming a dumping ground. We have more than 8 cement manufacturing companies, and I don't think there is a law stopping any new Comer, including you.

Before the ban, some of the companies above could not cope, but got a lift as soon as the ban came to light.

We are a people that like the easiest and the fastest route out. We hardly have time to build but we always want to enjoy what those who built are enjoying.

BTW, Trump banned alot of stuffs from coming into the US from China and co, you can look this up.

8 cement companies?? Namely;

somehow:


Government banned it to save the country from becoming a dumping ground. We have more than 8 cement manufacturing companies, and I don't think there is a law stopping any new Comer, including you.

Before the ban, some of the companies above could not cope, but got a lift as soon as the ban came to light.

We are a people that like the easiest and the fastest route out. We hardly have time to build but we always want to enjoy what those who built are enjoying.

BTW, Trump banned alot of stuffs from coming into the US from China and co, you can look this up.

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Horlardorjah:
Afternoon famz, please can u get the increte stamp rubber of this pattern anywhere near abeokuta or where can I get it please. Thanks

if attan Ota is not far from yu I can give you a contact

dongc:
8 cement companies?? Namely;

Sir, you would have to look this up online via Google.

This is very true.

I believe professionals are generally underpaid in Nigeria.

UC92:

Here in Nigeria, every fee is based on negotiations. Scale of fees for professionals don't even work here.

somehow:


Sir, you would have to look this up online via Google.

It's a simple question sir....I know about google

UC92:

Here in Nigeria, every fee is based on negotiations. Scale of fees for professionals don't even work here.

How can it work? We are in a country that is too poor.
To win contract is by war, getting a job is by war.
People believe they are doing you good by contracting you.
The slang "there are lots of people out there looking for this type of opportunity" is the new order.
May God heal our land.

twinskenny:
if attan Ota is not far from yu I can give you a contact

Its far but I wouldn't mind having the contact Sir. Hopefully he can also have a link for me. Thanks alot boss for the timely response

Since you've a BOQ, it should have recommended an amount for the contractor's overheads and profit (supervisory fee).

DUNKA:
Goodday all please what is the average percentage of the builder/ contractor supervision fees?

Also is the total cost obtained from the BOQ or what is the basis of the supervision fees?

Thanks for your enlightenment?

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uncleteeh:

Not easy.
The redesign might affect the structural aspect which will require some adjustments to the foundation.

As long as the client understands the financial implications and can commit to it then it should be taken as a challenge putting safety into all.

What is the current price/ton for iron rods within Lagos/ogun at the moment for 16mm, 12mm and 8mm.

somehow:


Government banned it to save the country from becoming a dumping ground. We have more than 8 cement manufacturing companies, and I don't think there is a law stopping any new Comer, including you.

Before the ban, some of the companies above could not cope, but got a lift as soon as the ban came to light.

We are a people that like the easiest and the fastest route out. We hardly have time to build but we always want to enjoy what those who built are enjoying.

BTW, Trump banned a lot of stuffs from coming into the US from China and co, you can look this up.

Did the government ban importation of cement to prevent dumping ground or to build local capacity? It is the government responsibility to make life easy for the citizens. I am not against government effort to build local capacity but against the a system where manufacturers are using government effort to exploits the citizens. I am just recommending a sort of carrot and stick to make the system fairer.

We are a people that like the easiest and the fastest route out. We hardly have time to build but we always want to enjoy what those who built are enjoying.
Is it easiest and fastest route to asked for some measure of control on the product that have been barned for importation for more than 10 years? 90% of this product raw materials are sourced locally. I am sure your ability to post on Nairaland is you enjoying what others build. I will recommend you open any economics textbook to read on economy of scale.

The exorbitant cost of building material of which cement is number one is affecting the standard of living of the citizen. The minimum wage in Lagos is about #35k most private companies pay their workers around #20k to 25k. To get a one room apt cost about #200k.

Trump banned a lot of stuffs from coming into the US from China and co, you can look this up
You ought to look it up. America banning of certain products importation from china is not economical it is political. Trump trade war with china is through the imposition of trade tariff just like Nigeria have high tariff on the importation of cars and some other products.

Dijita:



Did the government ban importation of cement to prevent dumping ground or to build local capacity? It is the government responsibility to make life easy for the citizens. I am not against government effort to build local capacity but against the a system where manufacturers are using government effort to exploits the citizens. I am just recommending a sort of carrot and stick to make the system fairer.

We are a people that like the easiest and the fastest route out. We hardly have time to build but we always want to enjoy what those who built are enjoying.
Is it easiest and fastest route to asked for some measure of control on the product that have been barned for importation for more than 10 years? 90% of this product raw materials are sourced locally. I am sure your ability to post on Nairaland is you enjoying what others build. I will recommend you open any economics textbook to read on economy of scale.

The exorbitant cost of building material of which cement is number one is affecting the standard of living of the citizen. The minimum wage in Lagos is about #35k most private companies pay their workers around #20k to 25k. To get a one room apt cost about #200k.

Trump banned a lot of stuffs from coming into the US from China and co, you can look this up
You ought to look it up. America banning of certain products importation from china is not economical it is political. Trump trade war with china is through the imposition of trade tariff just like Nigeria have high tariff on the importation of cars and some other products.

Yes to build local production.
You should know that an import dependent country always end up as a dumping ground.