~Sauron~:

PRICELESS!!!!
The Judge is eccentric. . . . . . .There's no question about that.


This is a case of i-want-to-be-the judge-that-sent-a-celeb-to-jail.
The Judge wants to be famous. . . . . . .So she can be recommended like Dora-Akunyili in decades to come.

A Magistrate court had tried this case before. The sensible Judge there ruled Ibinabo should pay 100,000 Naira fine and the case was buried.
This new judge felt she had to do something and she exhumed the case. . . . . .She tried it with prejudice and found Ibinabo guilty.
Can you not see this case has many flaws??
What are the Nollywood actresses doing. . . . . .I expect a Union strike.

You must be severely deluded.

Either she was drunk and drove dangerously or she drove dangerously and killed someone, that was a breadwinner and then ran from the scene, yet you are talking about N100K fine?

You must be deluded. Jail and nothing else.

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Sagamite:

You must be severely deluded.

It seems you have a splinter in your sphincter.

Either she was drunk and drove dangerously or she drove dangerously and killed someone, that was a breadwinner and then ran from the scene, yet you are talking about N100K fine?

There's a difference between DUI and killing someone AND driving dangerously and killing someone by accident.
Whether the victim was a breadwinner or not makes no difference, no life is greater than the other.
I ain't the judge that ruled that N100K fine should be paid. Ibinabo wasn't the judge as well.
She simply obeyed what the Magistrate court asked her to do. Whether the punitive measure was fair or unfair, it was not Ibinabo's fault.

You must be deluded. Jail and nothing else.

U suffer a heavy dose of dementia.

DeReloaded:

I wonder if you'd be this wounded if she wasnt a "family member" Ibime.

The fact that she tried to do away with the situation by sending money proves that she had no remorse.

why else would she send money?

Exactly.
This is just a tribal,family thing to him.
If it were Ibinabo killed,he'll be singing a different tune.

~Sauron~:

It seems you have a splinter in your sphincter.

There's a difference between DUI and killing someone AND driving dangerously and killing someone by accident.
Whether the victim was a breadwinner or not makes no difference, no life is greater than the other.
I ain't the judge that ruled that N100K fine should be paid. Ibinabo wasn't the judge as well.
She simply obeyed what the Magistrate court asked her to do. Whether the punitive measure was fair or unfair, it was not Ibinabo's fault.

U suffer a heavy dose of dementia.

But your argument was that the judge that gave a fine for N100K was "sensible".

If I was the judge, it will be 10 years I will give her based solely on her stupid theaterics at sentencing when she brought down all the morons from Nollywood and was being escorted to the stand and the lame arguments of I am a single mother.

As a judge, I will just be thinking this slowpoke is trying to blind me with celebrity. "oh, i have done something wrong but as I have children my punishment should not be adequate". In Nigeria, someone will take reasonably good care of her kids.

If you drive dangerously and kill someone THAT IS IN A CAR (hence the impact most likely is due to excessive speed), and you can not even be bothered to show up in court for the case then you should go to jail (not the Monopoly one). If you are DUI, then you should go to jail. You have had the pleasure, here comes the pain.

Posters, why don't you put yourselves in position of the victim before writing. Since when does being an actress gives one license to kill. If you have been following the case you would have known that the lady did not even show any remorse or regard for either the victim or the family. Even to get her to appear in Court was by force and we are here saying she should not go to jail.

Committing offence and not getting punished is a against law of nature and natural justice, that is why fire would burn you if touched either knowingly or unknowingly.

**osisi:

Exactly.
This is just a tribal,family thing to him.
If it were Ibinabo killed,he'll be singing a different tune.

osisi;
If Ibinabo had been killed in Okrika by one ngbatiman, his car would be burnt and himself killed instantly, if he managed to escape and his people came for settlement he would be made to pay all cash estimated by the family used to have trained her, he would marry her in death and do all burial rights, You don't even dire to kill goat and get away in that area, so do not bring any tribal sentiments here.

Sagamite:

But your argument was that the judge that gave a fine for N100K was "sensible".

Sensible for imposing a fine but not sure if the fine imposed matched the degree of the offence.

If I was the judge, it will be 10 years I will give her based solely on her stupid theaterics at sentencing when she brought down all the morons from Nollywood and was being escorted to the stand and the lame arguments of I am a single mother.

Now we know why you can NEVER be a judge.

As a judge, I will just be thinking this slowpoke is trying to blind me with celebrity. "oh, i have done something wrong but as I have children my punishment should not be adequate". In Nigeria, someone will take reasonably good care of her kids.

Take care of her kids with what??

If you drive dangerously and kill someone THAT IS IN A CAR (hence the impact most likely is due to excessive speed), and you can not even be bothered to show up in court for the case then you should go to jail (not the Monopoly one). If you are DUI, then you should go to jail. You have had the pleasure, here comes the pain.

She didn't show up in court cos she was injured herself. Can u read at all?

~Sauron~:

Sensible for imposing a fine but not sure if the fine imposed matched the degree of the offence.

Jail her arse. What fine?

Drunk, dangerous driving, ran way from scene.

~Sauron~:

Take care of her kids with what??

how are kids taken care off?

~Sauron~:

She didn't show up in court cos she was injured herself. Can u read at all?

So she was injured for 2 years that she missed most of the court proceedings? But I bet she did not miss the Nollywood parties?

I just heard from a friend of mine that the dead doctor was his Uncle. Funny how the world can be such a small place.

As far as i'm concerned, Justice has been served. How can someone prescribe a fine of N100k for killing a human being, a breadwinner in his own right. Is that fair?

PS: Since when did being a 'single mother' let one off the hook when a serious crime is committed?

Remii:

osisi;
If Ibinabo had been killed in Okrika by one ngbatiman, his car would be burnt and himself killed instantly, if he managed to escape and his people came for settlement he would be made to pay all cash estimated by the family used to have trained her, he would marry her in death and do all burial rights, You don't even dire to kill goat and get away in that area, so do not bring any tribal sentiments here.

Are you speaking from personal experience or spewing tribalistic piffle. Since when do Yoruba battymen  drive on Okrika roads; and on which Okrika road can you have a fatal accident? Is it Kirike mainland which only has one-way streets and is only accessible by okada in most parts, or is it the other islands which are not accessible by car?


@ All,

the sentence should be 18 months max if it can proved that Ibinabo committed involuntary manslaughter by reckless driving. I remember Ted Kennedy only got two months for leaving the scene of an accident in which a lady died. Accidents happen, and people often react out of fear. There is no need to condemn them to eternal damnation.

Sagamite:

If you drive dangerously and kill someone THAT IS IN A CAR (hence the impact most likely is due to excessive speed),

You should refund the money your father paid for your education. Laws of physics are beyond your mental capacity, much less human biology.



@ Pataki,

I hope your pastor would find your iniquitous rants palatable if he happened to stumble across this thread. Tomorrow now, you will use that same tongue to tell us you are a born-again Christian. If you can react so un-Christ-like online, I wonder how you would react in a real-time argument.


@ Osisi,

Kedu? 

why are you comparing American sentences to Nigeria?

DeReloaded:

why are you comparing American sentences to Nigeria?

Why are you comparing American roads, traffic lights, potholes, speed limits, speed cameras to Nigeria? Are you OK at all? If anything, all these mitigating factors should reduce culpability, not increase it.

Ibime:

@ Pataki,

I hope your pastor would find your iniquitous rants palatable if he happened to stumble across this thread. Tomorrow now, you will use that same tongue to tell us you are a born-again Christian. If you can react so un-Christ-like online, I wonder how you would react in a real-time argument.

Iniquitous rants?

What a sick attempt as a retort to me. I am not one who worships or genuflects at a ''Pastor.'' My comments are not accountable to any pastor whatsoever. If this is your best come-back to all the waffle you have been typing in respect to this case, it further proves to me, you are a demented being. I guess your 'pastor' would be happy you openly encourage lawlessness and inanity as a human being, simply because Ibinabo is from your village.

Go and back and read who decided to ply gratuitous insults at first? Why refer to me as an idiot? You think I am one of those who can be restrained with insults and grammar?

Silly thing.

Ibime:

Why are you comparing American roads, traffic lights, potholes, speed limits, speed cameras to Nigeria? Are you OK at all? If anything, all these mitigating factors should reduce culpability, not increase it.

If anyone isnt mentally sound it's you. Better take your emotional madness else where. Either answer the question or just ignore it if you cant reply a simple question like a sane person. Mr Ibinabo. what do potholes and what not have to do with anything? So because of bad roads a person shouldnt be reprimanded for killing someone? Yet you have the audacity to ask If IM alright?

First you stated that the inital statement asking to pay a fine was wrong and the fault of the judge
Later you said she doesnt belong in jail
Mins later, she deserves 18 months
Now she doesnt deserve anything because of "potholes"

Better make up your mind and quit confusing yourself

I have to admit the sentence does seem a bit harsh. . . but reasons for a judge passing sentence vary
and are legitimate so long as the punishment prescribed is within the boundaries of the law.

I do not see how the judge can be criticised if the sentence she has prescribed conforms to what is held
in the statute books.

I suspect she has passed a tough sentence because she is suspicious about the circumstances surrounding
the first sentence. Perhaps Ibinabo greased some palms during the initial hearing.

@Ibime

lol. . . and there I was thinking u were a sucker for the law of the land

Before this incident I had never heard of a SINGLE arrest by the Nigerian police of a motorist for driving under the influence of alcohol, in the ENTIRE history of Nigeria, so maybe this conviction is a good start.

Hit and run drunk driving is a very serious felony in the West, though the resultant sentence in this case is rather draconian, and will likely be modified under appeal after the dust settles and the matter shifts out of the public eye.

Ibime:

the sentence should be 18 months max if it can proved that Ibinabo committed involuntary manslaughter by reckless driving. I remember Ted Kennedy only got two months for leaving the scene of an accident in which a lady died. Accidents happen, and people often react out of fear. There is no need to condemn them to eternal damnation.

There is no basis for comparison with the Ted kennedy situation. His car plunged into a river and he was able to get out while the passenger drowned. He was NEVER convicted for manslaughter, he never went off and hit anyone.
So where's the basis or comparison?

Once in a while, judges decide to prescribe tough sentences to send a message to law breakers and people who may feel they can use their celebrity status to influence judgement. Even after Wesley Snipes agreed to pay back the tax money to the IRS and expressed remorse, was he not given 2 years prison sentence?

Ibime:

if it can proved that Ibinabo committed [b]involuntary manslaughter by reckless driving.[/b]

Now this is annoying. Her car veered off the road and killed someone. There has been no evidence of any vehicle mechanical failure whatsoever, and her defence have not put forward such a claim. So WTF do you mean by 'if it can be proved'?

texazzpete:

There is no basis for comparison with the Ted kennedy situation. His car plunged into a river and he was able to get out while the passenger drowned. He was NEVER convicted for manslaughter, he never went off and hit anyone.
So where's the basis or comparison?

I am not drawing a watertight comparison, just showing that it could happen to anyone. Both were coming back from a party, there are unfounded rumours that both were drunk. Both went off the road, one into oncoming traffic and the other into a river. Both fled the scene. Infact, the presiding judge ruled that Kennedy's speed was 'possibly reckless' for the kind of road he was travelling on, although he was only doing 20 miles an hour. Speed is not even an issue here as Ibinabo's speed is indeterminable. I do not think that anyone should be casting stones, especially considering that the car Ibinabo was travelling in was borrowed; and was a high-powered car, maybe one that she couldn't handle or wasnt used to. It could happen to anyone. As Ibinabo claimed in the court transcript, she swerved to avoid another car and lost control of the vehicle. We have no system of verification to determine if this is true or false.

DeReloaded:

If anyone isnt mentally sound it's you. Better take your emotional madness else where. Either answer the question or just ignore it if you cant reply a simple question like a sane person. Mr Ibinabo. what do potholes and what not have to do with anything? So because of bad roads a person shouldnt be reprimanded for killing someone? Yet you have the audacity to ask If IM alright?

First you stated that the inital statement asking to pay a fine was wrong and the fault of the judge
Later you said she doesnt belong in jail
Mins later, she deserves 18 months
Now she doesnt deserve anything because of "potholes"

Better make up your mind and quit confusing yourself

Shut up, you old hag. . . . the initial fine was too light and the latest judgement is too draconian. . .other than that, I have said nothing except that this kind of case is more fitting with an 18 month sentence. . . .what is so hard for you to understand about that?. . . . . imagine this brainless dolt asking me why I am comparing Nigerian and American justice. . . . infact, you are right!. . . . there is no basis for comparison. . . . one has facilities in place for determining culpability whilst the other does not. . . . only a inane caralho like yourself would justify a harsher sentence in a country where the road traffic authorities are incapable of ensuring transparent standards and post-accident analysis. . . .

Pataki:

Go and back and read who decided to ply gratuitous insults at first? Why refer to me as an idiot? You think I am one of those who can be restrained with insults and grammar?

Look at this nincompoop. I never tagged the word 'idiot' to your name. I said "idiots are postulating as to the severity of Ibinabo's crime". In your reactionary style, you quickly jumped on that statement and started flinging insults back and forth. I do not have a problem insulting you anyway cos you're a local maga. Imagine olodo forming grammar for me. Vindictive and unforgiving hypocrite like yourself preaching about the love of God; with body like crayfish forming Prey-Mantis dance moves.

Ibime:

Look at this nincompoop. I never tagged the word 'idiot' to your name. I said "idiots are postulating as to the severity of Ibinabo's crime". In your reactionary style, you quickly jumped on that statement and started flinging insults back and forth. I do not have a problem insulting you anyway cos you're a local maga. Imagine olodo forming grammar for me. Vindictive and unforgiving hypocrite like yourself preaching about the love of God; with body like crayfish forming Prey-Mantis dance moves. 

What an outstanding ninny! Who made this statement directly under my input when I had just talked about Ibinabo facing the rule of law:

Idiots are here talking about law. Which law?

Of course, a wretched coward like you, will hide under the umbrella of it was a general statement, but given your proclivity for anecdotal and gratuitous insults, I would not mince words with you. I would rather give it back to you (hard-talk), and make you realize, you are the 'idiot' here.

Everyone has been pointing to your impiety embedded with your posts here, but you are so pigheaded, blinded by your emotional cries and ties to objectively see the larceny in what Ibinabo has done and most annoying, you would rather want to justify it. Forming grammar for you? What a laugh. You really think you are worth that time? What a senseless thing.

Keep on with your yak. . . . . sure it makes your day. Please come back and tell us how Kirikiri looks like when you go visiting Ibinabo.

I think you need to revisit the definition of 'lawlessness'. My stance has always been that an 18 month sentence is more in keeping with this kind of crime. As countless others have said on this thread, 5 years is a draconian punishment for this kind of crime. No one says she shouldn't be punished. I don't know why bad-belle dey worry you so much. Does it bring you any gratification?

You are talking about involuntary actions like they are pre-meditated. May you never have an accident, and if you do, I hope you are visited with the same self-righteous ferocity with which you judge others. Mumu like you using 'larceny' to describe an involuntary action. Nama shobiri!

Ibime:

I think you need to revisit the definition of 'lawlessness'. My stance has always been that an 18 month sentence is more in keeping with this kind of crime. As countless others have said on this thread, 5 years is a draconian punishment for this kind of crime. No one says she shouldn't be punished. I don't know why bad-belle dey worry you so much. Does it bring you any gratification?

You are talking about involuntary actions like they are pre-meditated. May you never have an accident, and if you do, I hope you are visited with the same self-righteous ferocity with which you judge others. Mumu like you using 'larceny' to describe an involuntary action. Nama shobiri!

This is utterly ridiculous. The more you type you prattle, you keep establishing the fact that you are a deluded being, poor in rationalizing cases and highly stupid with judgment-decision making.

You are so opinionated on justifying her actions. Now I ask you. . . . . Was it an involuntary action of hers to undergo binging on drinks? Was it an involuntary actions of hers to be driving recklessly? Was it an involuntary action of hers to flee from the scene of the accident? Was it an involuntary action of hers not to make herself available in court anytime her hearing came up, yet she knows how to attend various other social functions in the meanwhile? Was it an involuntary action of hers to pay a paltry sum of N100K, even when there was no provision of such in the rule of law? If all that is not 'larceny' to you, then, you are incredibly daft!

Please stay off the mumbo-jumbo of your local dialect in this discourse. Trust me, you do not want to ply that route with me.

Maybe Ibinabo is gettin all she deserves afterall, i am sure if her stupid and pompous actor boyfriend had not made the mistake of offering a car to the victims mom in place of her dear son's life this case may have been killed off by now.

I am also sure all the while she never knew it would come to this, maybe she needs to spend just a few months in kirikiri so she would know the gravity of the offence she has commited, i pray however that the victims family would just be strong enuff to pity and pardon her so she can be finally let of the hook.

Pataki:

You are so opinionated on justifying her actions. Now I ask you. . . . . Was it an involuntary action of hers to undergo binging on drinks? Was it an involuntary actions of hers to be driving recklessly? Was it an involuntary action of hers to flee from the scene of the accident? Was it an involuntary action of hers not to make herself available in court anytime her hearing came up, yet she knows how to attend various other social functions in the meanwhile? Was it an involuntary action of hers to pay a paltry sum of N100K, even when there was no provision of such in the rule of law? If all that is not 'larceny' to you, then, you are incredibly daft!

Your idiocy knows no bounds. All the waffle you typed above has no judicial relevance and is formed from mendacious reports and hearsay. How many times do you have to be reminded that she is court on charges of reckless driving and dangerous driving, not DUI? Maybe you cannot handle the fact that the incident was possibly. . . . . . an accident!

I can see your problem. Your predilection to swallowing mendacious media reports hook, line, sinker and fishing boat is incongruous with your reputation as an educated fellow. Whilst you have a beguiling knack for verbosity, your time is better spent toasting chicks in the romance section as it is quite obvious that you are an educated buffoon who has nothing to contribute but hot air. It is you who is deluded. So Ibinabo paying a fine of N100,000 is now an 'involuntary action', even though it was ordered by the judge? And what social functions has she attended in the meantime? Maybe you were there and would like to enlighten us. Maybe she should cease from living her life because of the trials she is facing? You are the same person yarning rubbish about Ibinabo showing up to court with celebrities, as if her friends are not drawn from such circles; and as if your friends would not turn up to support you if you had a court case. You are a spiteful idiot, and you cannot handle the fact that her life is different to yours. Media LovePeddler.

benedo:

I am also sure all the while she never knew it would come to this, maybe she needs to spend just a few months in kirikiri so she would know the gravity of the offence she has commited, i pray however that the victims family would just be strong enuff to pity and pardon her so she can be finally let of the hook.

Well said. You have to know what it feels like to lose a member of your family to get how unbelievable her lack of remorse is, and how deserving she is of punishment. Accidents happen and people die everyday, but what a meaningless,avoidable tragedy this one is; how is the poor guy's family supposed to make sense of it? She took a whole human being's life and she is not at his family's door making a nuisance of herself begging their forgiveness? She didn't give a crap. Now she boo-hoo-hoos cause she's going to jail. She can while away the time conducting beauty pageants there.

If she were remorseful I'm sure the guy's family would have pardoned her, you know, eventually. But how do you forgive someone who didn't ask your forgiveness and is only sorry she's going to jail? They should reduce the sentence but haul her ass to prison.

Ibime:

Your idiocy knows no bounds. All the waffle you typed above has no judicial relevance and is formed from mendacious reports and hearsay. How many times do you have to be reminded that she is court on charges of reckless driving and dangerous driving, not DUI? Maybe you cannot handle the fact that the incident was possibly. . . . . . an accident!

I can see your problem. Your predilection to swallowing mendacious media reports hook, line, sinker and fishing boat is incongruous with your reputation as an educated fellow. Whilst you have a beguiling knack for verbosity, your time is better spent toasting chicks in the romance section as it is quite obvious that you are an educated buffoon who has nothing to contribute but hot air. It is you who is deluded. So Ibinabo paying a fine of N100,000 is now an 'involuntary action', even though it was ordered by the judge? And what social functions has she attended in the meantime? Maybe you were there and would like to enlighten us. Maybe she should cease from living her life because of the trials she is facing? You are the same person yarning rubbish about Ibinabo showing up to court with celebrities, as if her friends are not drawn from such circles; and as if your friends would not turn up to support you if you had a court case. You are a spiteful idiot, and you cannot handle the fact that her life is different to yours. Media LovePeddler.

What a demented being you truly are. Of course her life is by far different from mine. You have once more proven that you are incredibly daft. I expected that you would answer my questions like an intellectual being you are forcing yourself to depict. Rather you have taken it on yourself to obstreperously jump from one point to the other making and citing irrelevancies about my person or character to your twaddle. If it is not that ''my Pastor would be ashamed of my rantings'', it is that ''I should be on the romance section toasting girls''. How does this relate to the discourse at hand? What a confused and bemused being. Grammar perspicuity does not bestow intelligence on you.

Oh I see, she knows how to live her life, but once it nears to when her case is to come-up in the court, suddenly, Ibinabo is in the hospital. You are both of the same character - supercilious human beings, and lawless idiots. Let her go and live her life in Kirikiri. Goodness may smile on her, as she may have a 'nollywood' story to write out of it after her five years there. At least, Obasanjo wrote a book after his last prison journey called: ''The Animal Called Man.'' She might just be on the verge of making history as well too. I am sure, my caustic tongue would cease, after knowing she has truly learnt her lesson.

That you now question the veracity of the media, is a further question to your intelligence and sound mind. Are you mentally stable at all? Where have I stated that Ibinabo showed up in courts with celebrities? Please feel free to go into my posts and dig it out! I challenge you to do that. What a mendacious oaf, you are truly are. Look at this bum, who cannot read properly, skylarking with his lexicon and reading posts upside down. I once more challenge you to quote me out and I would shamefully leave this thread. If otherwise, you are nothing but an accredited bovine individual.

Mr Pataki, you lack the gumption to discern between a serious issue and a trivial one. Imagine choosing an issue as serious as this to display verbosity about nothing in particular. You think this is a verbal joust? On the serious issue of the case in question, you have strayed from facts on ground, choosing to employ tabloid logic to draw your conclusion. I doubt you even know the facts of the case. All you have done so far is present your misconceptions. On the DUI issue alone, there is no need to continue yarning hot air with you. You obviously lack the facts.

na wa for this war of words between Ibime and Pataki - This battle has turned to the war-of-who-sabi-grammar-pass. I enjoy u guys command of english- its fun reading it, but still, dont speak english forget the simple thing we are talking abt ooo.

Ibime:

Mr Pataki, you lack the gumption to discern between a serious issue and a trivial one. Imagine choosing an issue as serious as this to display verbosity about nothing in particular. You think this is a verbal joust? On the serious issue of the case in question, you have strayed from facts on ground, choosing to employ tabloid logic to draw your conclusion. I doubt you even know the facts of the case. All you have done so far is present your misconceptions. On the DUI issue alone, there is no need to continue yarning hot air with you. You obviously lack the facts.

As I earlier posited, I do not need to convince you or any other person about Ibinabo's liveliness. She fully got what she deserved from the court of law.

I however, still request and require of you to [b]shamefully disgrace me out of this thread [/b]by quoting my post, where I stated: ''Ibinabo showed up in court with celebrities.'' You have a free shot, do not miss your target. Otherwise, you are nothing but a mendacious oaf, and blinded by family sentiment.

Pataki:

(1.) Otherwise, you are nothing but a mendacious oaf, and blinded by family sentiment.

(2.) I however, still request and require of you to [b]shamefully disgrace me out of this thread [/b]by quoting my post, where I stated: ''Ibinabo showed up in court with celebrities.'' You have a free shot, do not miss your target.

(1.) It is my business to be blinded by filial sentiment - if I am - but I am not the one misconstruing the facts on ground. I have said repeatedly that based on the charge of reckless driving, it would be more apt if she was given an 18 month sentence as that is the sentence I see handed out in the newspaper everyday for similar crimes. How is that being blinded by sentiment? Seun, Jakumo, Doyin and others have expressed the same sentiment.

(2.) You don come with your small-mindedness again. Does 'disgracing you off the thread' hold any relevance to this discussion? You dey try show machismo even over a sensitive discussion such as this one. You can get your kicks whichever way you like. I dont need to disgrace you to prove anything.

what would Nl be without feuds?