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Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by Bialegend(m): 7:15pm On Aug 31, 2015
Are Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales and Eguns really Yoruba? Infact who are the real Yorubas. I was discussing with my co-worker whom i thought was Yoruba, so as the dicussion progressed, i said something like "you Yorubas", and this guy got so annoyed and cautioned me immediately and maintianed that his ethnic group is Ilaje and wanred me seriously never to call him a Yoruba. He also made me to understand that even the Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales and Eguns are different ethnic groups from the Yorubas. So my Yoruba peeps in here where is the different between you guys and the Ilajes.

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Re: Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by Nobody: 7:21pm On Aug 31, 2015
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Re: Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by Femolacaster(m): 7:28pm On Aug 31, 2015
@op, i have never come accross any ikale, ilaje, egba, denoucing being Yoruba. They are all dialects in Yoruba language. Moreso, nobody is more "yoruba" than other, no division in Yorubaland. Though, i dont know much about Egun!

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Re: Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by Bialegend(m): 7:31pm On Aug 31, 2015
Femolacaster:
@op, i have never come accross any ikale, ilaje, egba, denoucing being Yoruba. They are all dialects in Yoruba language. Moreso, nobody is more "yoruba" than other, no division in Yorubaland. Though, i dont know much about Egun!
Believe me, my co-worker gave me serious warning never to call him Yoruba. He insisted that he is Ilaje and never to be called Yoruba. Why?

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Re: Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by jaymichael(m): 7:34pm On Aug 31, 2015
My Pastor is Ikale, he is even more Yoruba than me. These tribes you mentioned are Yoruba as 6 is half a dozen.

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Re: Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by jaymichael(m): 7:36pm On Aug 31, 2015
Bialegend:

Believe me, my co-worker gave me serious warning never to call him Yoruba. He insisted that he is Ilaje and never to be called Yoruba. Why?
Even the Apoi Ijaws in Ondo state are very Yoruba.

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Re: Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by Bialegend(m): 7:39pm On Aug 31, 2015
jaymichael:
Even the Apoi Ijaws in Ondo state are very Yoruba.
You are looking for trouble when you associate any Ijaw community to Yoruba. Na so una dey take grab land because of other people's oil? Tufiakwa!!

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Re: Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by Bialegend(m): 7:41pm On Aug 31, 2015
jaymichael:
My Pastor is Ikale, he is even more Yoruba than me. These tribes you mentioned are Yoruba as 6 is half a dozen.
Do not speak for Ikales because you are not one of them, let them come in here and prove you right or wrong which i am sure youy are. I believe we have people from Ikale in this forum.

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Re: Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by ola6: 7:41pm On Aug 31, 2015
Oga, I'm an Awori man. If I'm not a Yoruba man, what will you call me?

Migrated from Ibeshe to Lagos Island before any western region or Nigeria was formed.

I know my self. Omo Yoruba Tokan Tokan

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Re: Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by Armaggedon: 7:42pm On Aug 31, 2015
Egun are clearly not yoruba, awori have repeatedly warned against being called yoruba.
An ijebu chief last month insisted they are from sudan and not yoruba. I think a proper study needs to be done to avoid lumping pple with another group against their will.

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Re: Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by docsholz(m): 7:44pm On Aug 31, 2015
Divide and rule *yawns*

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Re: Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by sammyj: 7:47pm On Aug 31, 2015
No they are Biafra land who migrate during Lord Lugards regime! !!! grin grin

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Re: Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by TonySpike: 7:52pm On Aug 31, 2015
The OP is being forgetful; Ekitis, Ijeshas, Arogbo-Ijaws, Akokos, Ifes, Ogbomoshos, Okuns, Ondos, Oyos and Igbominas are also not Yorubas. Ode lasan lasan...

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Re: Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by cheruv: 7:54pm On Aug 31, 2015
These are serious questions that need to be answered urgently
Re: Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by anulaxad(m): 7:57pm On Aug 31, 2015
For crying out loud watch yourself. All the names you've mentioned are just the different dialects of spoken Yoruba, Ijebu for example is an Ogun state dialect.

Please change the name of the thread as you are making it seem like Yorubas are confused people, we are all the same from western Nigeria to Togo.

And please google is your friend.


Bialegend:
Are Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales and Eguns really Yoruba? Infact who are the real Yorubas. I was discussing with my co-worker whom i thought was Yoruba, so as the dicussion progressed, i said something like "you Yorubas", and this guy got so annoyed and cautioned me immediately and maintianed that his ethnic group is Ilaje and wanred me seriously never to call him a Yoruba. He also made me to understand that even the Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales and Eguns are different ethnic groups from the Yorubas. So my Yoruba peeps in here where is the different between you guys and the Ilajes.

Armaggedon:
Egun are clearly not yoruba, awori have repeatedly warned against being called yoruba.
An ijebu chief last month insisted they are from sudan and not yoruba. I think a proper study needs to be done to avoid lumping pple with another group against their will.

Again google is your friend, Egun is a Yoruba word, Ijebus are famous due to there very powerful YORUBA army, and which Aworis, Aworis are 100% Yoruba, the name means the plate has sunk in Yoruba.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awori_tribe

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Re: Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by Bialegend(m): 8:01pm On Aug 31, 2015
Armaggedon:
Egun are clearly not yoruba, awori have repeatedly warned against being called yoruba.
An ijebu chief last month insisted they are from sudan and not yoruba. I think a proper study needs to be done to avoid lumping pple with another group against their will.
This is exactly what i want them to understand, but Ola6 is here claiming Yoruba when he is just Awori and nothing else. He need to ask his people serious questions about whom he is. Perhaps, he is still too young to understand exactly who he is, so we can forgive him. Those from Badagry don't even see themselves as Yorubas, talk-less of a full blooded Aworian.

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Re: Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by anulaxad(m): 8:04pm On Aug 31, 2015
Bialegend:

This is exactly what i want them to understand, but Ola6 is here claiming Yoruba when he is just Awori and nothing else. He need to ask his people serious questions about whom he is. Perhaps, he is still too young to understand exactly who he is, so we can forgive him. Those from Badagry don't even see themselves as Yorubas, talk-less of a full blooded Aworian.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awori_tribe

The clan originates from one of Oduduwa's sons, case closed.

Please again change the name of this thread.
Re: Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by emmalexabl(m): 8:06pm On Aug 31, 2015
I know yorubas would claim the above belongs to them.
But the truth is that Ilajes.,Aworis and the eguns aren't yorubas but i think the rest of them., ijebus etc are...

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Re: Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by superstar1(m): 8:08pm On Aug 31, 2015
They are not Ikwerre and other God blessed ethnicities that deny the cannibalistic y1bos.

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Re: Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by Bialegend(m): 8:08pm On Aug 31, 2015
anulaxad:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awori_tribe

The clan originates from one of Oduduwa's sons, case closed.

Please again change the name of this thread.
You are a liar. Anybody can log into wikipedia and write any rubbish which is never fact. You dare not even call people from Ijesha, Arogbo-Ijaw, Akoko, Ife, Ogbomosho and Okun Yorubas without getting a dirty slap in your face. The Ife people for example are from Sudan and this have been proven already.

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Re: Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by stevecantrell: 8:11pm On Aug 31, 2015
TonySpike:
The OP is being forgetful; Ekitis, Ijeshas, Arogbo-Ijaws, Akokos, Ifes, Ogbomoshos, Okuns, Ondos, Oyos and Igbominas are also not Yorubas. Ode lasan lasan...


Lol .

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Re: Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by OkutaNla: 8:17pm On Aug 31, 2015
Bialegend:

Do not speak for Ikales because you are not one of them, let them come in here and prove you right or wrong which i am sure youy are. I believe we have people from Ikale in this forum.

You are a hypocrite. You are here asking him not to speak for Ikales, yet you are quick to hang on to and believe your imaginary "co-worker". I am yet to hear of any of those folks you said your non-existent co-worker listed (with the exception of Eguns who aren't Yorubas) claim to be anything but Yorubas.

In other news, is Philip Emegwali right when he said the following about the inhabitants of Onitsha? cheesy :



Yoruba Onitsha, Orisha

Introduction: By PHILIP EMEAGWALI

I am a Yoruba by birth (born in Akure, western region) and Igbo by
heritage. As a native Onitsha Igbo, I trace my ancestry to Eze Chima,
a prince who rebelled against the Benin royal dynasty and emigrated
from the kingdom. Other Igbos that trace their lineage to Eze Chima
include Onicha-Ukwu, Onicha-Olona, Onicha-Ugbo, Obior,
Issele-Ukwu, Issele-Mkpima, Issele-Azagba, Ezi, Abeh and Obamkpa.

Native Onitshans speak a dialect of the Igbo language with several
Benin/Yoruba words such as "Obi" (of Onitsha) and "Oba" (of Benin).
In fact, the word Onitsha (Onicha) is a corruption of the god "Orisha."
The bini name for River Niger is Ohinmwin. The Onicha Igbo call it
"Orinmili." In a few years, we will have DNA tests that proves (or
disproves) the Onitsha-Benin-Yoruba connection.

In fact, a lost dialect of the Yoruba language, called Olukwumu, is
spoken in Brazil and in a few Igbo communities named Anioma,
Idumu-Ogu, Ubulubu, Ugboba, Ugbodu, and Ukwunzu
(M. A. Onwuejeogwu, 1987 Ahiajoku Lecture

The absence Olukwumu in core Yoruba land proves that these
communities are the Lost Yoruba Tribe that were fleeing from
slave raiders. (Excerpt)


http://www.assatashakur.org/forum/traditional/6833-yoruba-onitsha-orisha.html


Follow this link to read up on what Emeagwuali has to say . . . . .

http://emeagwali.com/photos/yoruba/photo-essay-on-yoruba.html

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Re: Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by akinszz: 8:17pm On Aug 31, 2015
Yoruba na hausa word used in calling people 4rm ogbomosho, ibadan n oshogho in those days. there is nothing like yoruba in oduduwa's language. We are omo oduduwa... Or u call us by tribe's name like ijebu, egba, oyo, ogbomosho.. Etc

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Re: Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by ELTON123(m): 8:18pm On Aug 31, 2015
sammyj:
No they are Biafra land who migrate during Lord Lugards regime! !!! grin grin
and you think you are funny .....smh
Re: Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by seunny4lif(m): 8:18pm On Aug 31, 2015
grin grin cheesy
Re: Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by tpiander: 8:19pm On Aug 31, 2015
jaymichael:
Even the Apoi Ijaws in Ondo state are very Yoruba.

is it Apoi or Arogbo, these things are getting fuzzy.

I think you may be right, Apoi is the Yoruboid branch while Arogbo is Ijoid.

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Re: Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by anulaxad(m): 8:20pm On Aug 31, 2015
Bialegend:

You are a liar. Anybody can log into wikipedia and write any rubbish which is never fact. You dare not even call people from Ijesha, Arogbo-Ijaw, Akoko, Ife, Ogbomosho and Okun Yorubas without getting a dirty slap in your face. The Ife people for example are from Sudan and this have been proven already.

Please do not call me a liar. You sound so silly you realise right that there's no 'specific neutral' type of Yoruba, they all come from a specific sub-group. Example my family originate from the Aworis and Ijebus on my mothers side and ijebus on my father's side.

Who is from sudan ?, ile ife is a Yoruba term to describe the orgins of the Yoruba. Look are you Yoruba ? I'm guessing your not, as the things you are saying make no sense.

Wikipedia cannot be edited as easily as many people claim, that is a myth,you can try if you want if you don't believe me. All there articles are moderated by experts if you try editing an article.

Look how did I even end up arguing with people who are clearly not Yoruba about our OWN culture. Let me leave you to deceive yourself.

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Re: Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by tpiander: 8:21pm On Aug 31, 2015
Bialegend:

You are a liar. Anybody can log into wikipedia and write any rubbish which is never fact. You dare not even call people from Ijesha, Arogbo-Ijaw, Akoko, Ife, Ogbomosho and Okun Yorubas without getting a dirty slap in your face. The Ife people for example are from Sudan and this have been proven already.


una nor dey tire.

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Re: Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by OkutaNla: 8:22pm On Aug 31, 2015
Femolacaster:
@op, i have never come accross any ikale, ilaje, egba, denoucing being Yoruba. They are all dialects in Yoruba language. Moreso, nobody is more "yoruba" than other, no division in Yorubaland. Though, i dont know much about Egun!

Don't mind the Biagoat of a guy. He's pained that Yorubas don't have the problem his yeebo people have where Ikwerres and Agbors denounce Yeebo affiliation.

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Re: Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by tpiander: 8:24pm On Aug 31, 2015
Femolacaster:
@op, i have never come accross any ikale, ilaje, egba, denoucing being Yoruba. They are all dialects in Yoruba language. Moreso, nobody is more "yoruba" than other, no division in Yorubaland. Though, i dont know much about Egun!

I think nairalanders (or nl igbos) say Egba are Igbo.

It's believed Ilajes used to be around Ife or thereabouts, but some of them might have moved to their current location after the arrival of Oduduwa. That would make them sort of the original inhabitants of Ife or it's environs.

not set in stone though, I stand corrected if wrong.
Re: Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by princdebola201(m): 8:25pm On Aug 31, 2015
Armaggedon:
Egun are clearly not yoruba, awori have repeatedly warned against being called yoruba.
An ijebu chief last month insisted they are from sudan and not yoruba. I think a proper study needs to be done to avoid lumping pple with another group against their will.
You re Mad.stop spreading false rummours.
I be AWORI TOKAN TOKAN and am proud to be YORUBA 101%

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Re: Are The Ilajes, Aworis, Egbas, Ijebus, Ikales And Eguns Really Yoruba? by Bialegend(m): 8:37pm On Aug 31, 2015
While this discussion was going on, i put a call to my co-worker and he still angrily told me never to associate his Ilaje group to Yorubas and hanged up on me, so now who do i believe? When you look at the facial tribal/trade mark of the Aworis, it's far different from that of the Ilajes and the Yorubas. The Ife people who are from Sudan also have different facial tribal marks.

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