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Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by omofineboy(m): 4:38am On Oct 15, 2006
Adconline,

Thanks for the write up, its an intellectual short master piece, what makes a man is what he has upstairs, this is best way to debate issues. I agree totally with u. Good point guy.
Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by adconline(m): 10:28pm On Oct 15, 2006
Iyke-D

Bono performs in the US all time, my point to you is inspite of all the bad mouthing and trash
talk about Obasanjo and how unsafe he has made the country, I needed to point out to you
that its is unprecedented to have a collection of so many International artists gathered under
one roof in Nigeria, believe it or not, but it was a vote of confidence of some sort that Nigeria
after all is not that bad - I am sure you will disagree.  Now to blame all the criminality and thuggish nature of Nigerian politics on Obasanjo alone is just a mighty stretch of the imagination, but if
it feels good, go for it.


I believe in DSTV's slogan" expand your horizon" A comparison on security is based on two existing conditions. May be moving from a region of insecurity to security or vice versa. State Dept lists Nigeria as a country with serious security concerns. American investors will not invest in Nigeria because Jayz and co visited Nigeria. Jayz cannot change the perception of Corporate America with regard to Nigerian insecurity and infrastructure.

The difference is that Jayz was paid to perform in Nigeria, while an investor is not going to be paid, he is a risk taker, so does not want to compound his risks with insecurity. Even the hip pop community will not jump on the bandwagon to visit Nigeria. Someone is going to pick up the tab. Jayz cannot even persuade Def Jam to   open an office in Nigeria if there is no market.

@omofineboy.
Thanks for your appreciation. Kudos   for making this forum two sided.
Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by Afam(m): 9:35am On Oct 16, 2006
@adconline,

You seem not to get my position on this.

All the sectors in Nigeria that appeal to foreigners have foreigners operating in them.

The reason why I asked you to state the sectors that require DFI is for us to know what the DFI will bring to the table.

You stated Health - now, do you honestly believe that Nigeria cannot revitalize the health sector completely without foreign investors?

You seem to forget that the problem we have in Nigeria does not run in a straight line. From corruption to incompetence to lack of sincerity of purpose.

The government has failed to protect its citizens, instead they protect foreigners who come in here and rip Nigerians off.

As regards Vodacom you mentioned I hope you understand that Vodacom initially rejected any form of business dealing in Nigeria until its position in Africa was threatened by MTN that made a profit in 1 year that surpassed what it made in SA for 5 years.

What was responsible for that? Have you forgotten that Vodacom wanted to get into the Nigerian market through the back door but for litigations and serious objections up to international level?

And you tell me market has nothing to do with with, my dear market has everything to do with investments unless you are talking about businesses that run as charities.

Correct me if I am wrong, I believe that Nigeria does not need DFI to make progress. I am equally aware that text book stuff and economic gurus may differ based on what they read. But again it is about reality, it is about what happens after all the sweet words have been spoken, it is about people consuming what may have been produced. Population (market) is key and any producer of any product will be willing to sell where the market is.

Sorry fot the late response, I decided to take a keep away from the internet for a whole day.
Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by lewa(m): 11:25pm On Oct 16, 2006
My little contribution to this thread is this-went home after a while to see for my self.The only thing working are NAFDAC and EFCC.Period.Theres no visible sign of governance at the local state and federal levels. Why are we calling ourselves names.OBJ is deluded,hes got delusions of grandeur and considers himself as an international statesman-but what do we have here-double digit soaring inflation,massive unemployment,derilict and decrepit infrastructure, relentless unnecessary retrenchment,pensions not being paid,hunger and starvation. The politicians are stealing because he himself is not clean and lets forget the rhetoric that the mess done by successive regimes is going to take forever to clean up the man has been there for how many years now and we are worse of pre OBJ. Dont be deceived afterall we know PDP rigged in 2003 so what are we saying?Transparency International rates us as one of the most corrupt(OBJ was before his election, Chair of the Board of trustees), so if hes the best why are we in the same rudimentary stage of development. We have not had any good leader and OBJ is definately one of the worst.History would tell smiley
Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by buluti(m): 6:17pm On Oct 18, 2006
Saying OBJ is the greatest president Nigeria ever had is quite short sighted. My question GREATEST in what sense?

I have read the originator's paragraph, however the reasoning behind is fundamentally flawed. He is attempting to single out OBJ from the whole crop of political leadership, thats really impossible.

OBJ's "so called"achievements (which i give him credit for) is in the area of structural change which is a painful and long process, it might translate to gains in the long run but again thats if it is sustained, so really it is a gamble - Nigeria wise

Please look at the figures for 7 years (the fmf site) we cannot point to any meaningful development infrastructurally look at capital expenditure, where are the capital projects, Do a little execercise, download and calculate how much has accrued to the Federal Govt , where are these funds??. Please lets not deceive ourselves the funds are still not utilised efficiently. While not accusing OBJ directly he is responsible for his govt, whether OBJ or his cohorts theres still a missing link.

Look at the man "OBJ" does he understand the structural change he seeks to introduce to what extent does he understand the english that Soludo, Bode Agusto, Okonjo-Iweala, etc speak "macro economic stability", fiscal discipline, blah blah , does he really understand the workings, the complexities involved, the best he can understand is "debt forgiveness" & "foreign investment" which he has tried to sell and sell vigorously he has (cos thats what he understands).

For those of us suggesting an increase in foreign investment has been achieved i ask, "Is that the main tool of economic development?? NO, infact it is a byproduct of economic development, nobody will invest in an econmy where its own citizens are not confident in investing. What we are witnessing now is childs play compared to what we will experience if we get our acts together.

In addition most of us in this forum (average age of btw 15-35 maybe less 30) cannot effectively compare OBJ with any regime pre-IBB. I therefore disagree with the statement, OBJ is the best president Nigeria has ever had, we just dont know, we cant tell, we just can not compare, maybe our parents can argue that.

I keep on raising this issues with Nigerians as mush as i can, lets be very careful in accepting mediocrity, statements like the man stole but did something is totally unacceptable, we are inherently (unknowingly) accepting the culture of stealing.
Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by mazaje(m): 7:10pm On Oct 18, 2006
@dblock,

hey man what are u talking about here? what is leadership all about? is leadership for the betterment of the populace or for a selected few? OBJ's leadership is for only him and his greedy boys. i am a nigerian in diaspora too, i went back to Nigeria some months ago and i was terrified with what i saw i must tell u, things are just so bad and i must say that the lives of nigerians isnt better now than during the time of IBB or abacha i heard u say nigerian will prefer OBJ to abacha , who told u that? political killings are still on the rise, poverty is at its higest level, no roads ,no food, no water, no electricity even in abuja the FCT what a shame. during abach the PTF rehabilitated almost all the roads even though some people said they were only in the northern parts of the country, but at least some roads were rehabilitated but now even in the stupid OBJ's state there are no roads. Unemployment is at its highest level. what is it u are saying that going by CIA's report unemployment is not too high ? are u out of your mind to believe that? is it everything u read in foreign papers u believe, no wonder they even ridiculed nigerians by saying that nigerians are the happiest people on earth but u and i living out side nigeria know better, i have come to know what happiness really is now that am out of nigeria at leats i have seen happy citizens of a nation and i will tell u nigerians are the saddest people on earth. OBJ is not and will never be the best leader nigerans have seen, how can u say he is the best leader when everything is still the same, no roads , no elctricity, no clean water, educational system is still as bad as ever before , nothing has cahnged since 1999 till date so what are u talking about. do u know that the basic infasturcue are still not there? how can u say a government is trying when the basic infastuructue is not there? poverty has not reduced a bit and u stand there and say he is the best leader ever, how? isnt good governence supposed to be based on accomplishments? what are OBJ's? life for most nigerian is still the same as during abacha and IBB ,so i don't understand what u are saying because its not making sense and it wont make sense even to OBJ himself if he is to be truthfull
Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by omofineboy(m): 5:25pm On Oct 22, 2006
I agreed with you guys, thanks for the facts, arguements/debate should be factual. I hope OBJ and his confused economic Advisers will read all these and may be present us with their own facts.
Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by GNature(m): 12:03pm On Oct 28, 2006
After 10 years of the creation of the state and 40 years of oil discovery in Oloibiri, Bayelsa state has finally been connected to the national electricity grid. The multi-million dollar Owerri-Ahoada-Yenagoa 132 Kv transmission line, which made this possible, was commissioned recently by the federal government.

I wish to see the day all Nigerians would have adequate access to electricity

Other power projects:

http://www.gepower.com/about/press/en/2005_press/121305a.htm
Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by hbrednic: 6:06pm On Nov 09, 2006
abeg make somebody tell me where to gate garri to drink,because them don still my okada lipsrsealed
Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by madlawyer1(m): 5:28am On Nov 10, 2006
Presido's typical day:

7.00am: Eyes wide open. Tony and the boys sing "You're simply the best." Feel like Prince Akeem.

7.30am: Bound out of bed, and immediately regret rash decision. Back screaming blue murder. Tony and the boys immediately by my side singing "The world's greatest." Must put brave face on.

7.45am: Start shaving. Tony and the boys sing "You are so beautiful."

8.30am: Shave done, time for shower. Tony and the boys sing "You and I."

9.30am: Bloody cold water. Anyway time to see what I approved for airing on NTA last night. Will enjoy with cup of cocoa from farm. Tony and the boys sing "You're the inspiration."

9.35am: *splutter* What! Another crash? Kemaaaaaa! Kemaaaaaa! K, (Looks down) Oh, there you are. Take that out of your mouth for a second. Why aren't you at your ministry? I removed you? When? So Borishade is in charge now? Ok. Get him for me. Tony and the boys strike up tune of "You're a heartbreaker." Silenced by royal glare.

10.00am: Prominent Nigerians dead in crash. Must remember to smear alligator pepper under eyelids. Oh for the days when onions did the trick. Tony and the boys sing "You light up my life." So difficult to stay mad at them,

10.00am: Ah, the kpomo has arrived. Time for breakfast. Tony and the boys sing "You take my breath away."

10.30: Stroll around Villa, practising speech. The words all sound rather familiar though, Tony and the boys hum "Without you."

12noon: Done with speech practice. Throat hurts. Tony and the boys sing "You are my heaven."

1.00pm: Time to read back page of This Day. Tony and the boys sing "You are the sunshine of my life."

2.30pm: Done reading. Head hurts, eyes blurry. Time for power nap. Tony and the boys sing "You give me love."

4.00pm: My, how time flies. Must rise from couch. *sniff sniff* Lunch is ready. Tony and the boys sing "You are my destiny."

4.50pm: Deliver speech. Strange stony silence from crowd. Why is the hall empty, and what the hell is that box staring at m, Oh, I'm in the studio.

4.50pm: Tony and the boys share congratulations on brilliant speech, sing "You are my number one."

5.00pm: Time to sign some State of Emergency Declarations. I told them to arrange these things in alphabetical order. Don't they know Ebonyi comes before Anambra?! Tony and the boys sing "We can last forever."

6.55pm: Done signing declarations. Had long debate with self over Declaration for Abuja. Nasiru has done such a fine job so far, Tony and the boys sing "You can do it."

7.00pm: Time for light snack before dinner. Hear the cook is making pounded yam with egusi and plenty kpomo. Must remember to leave space. Tony and the boys sing "You are wonderful."

8.30pm: *belch* Snack was great. Time for dinner. Tony and the boys try to sing through full mouths. Cut them short with scowl.

10.00pm: Dinner was just fab. Time for bed. Oga Tony Blair is having his hair cut tomorrow morning. Can't afford to be late for the party. Tony and the boys sing "Unchained Melody." It's good to be King.
Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by chidichris(m): 1:39pm On Nov 10, 2006
odeku, i have in many of my writeups told u that u contribute less than ur write-ups.
look at omofineboys write-ups, he outlined his points and he has 18, how many do u have and how many of his are u disputing?
zik was a ceremonial president and as such was not having presidential powers as u see in obj.
if we are to compare here, we have to compare him with shagari who had a tenure before the military took over. and do u know obj is six(6) months away from eight years.
how do u compare shagari and obj? let us think about security then and now, what was the rate of dollar to naira then. check out the possibilities of nigerians getting visas to other countries then. trace the prices of petrol then and now.
by their fruits we shall know them. if obj has a bell university of 7 billion, a renowed ottah farm back from bankcruptcy, the best of individual liberary better that government owned, as well as a major shareholder in the bigest five companies which has practically taken over the government owned companies one can wonder how such a man will be crowned a good man.
since the failure of his 3rd term bid, i know his present effort is to retain his position as the ministre of petrolium that is even if he loses the presidency.
please when next u want to compare let it be obj and ibb.
Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by ono(m): 3:13pm On Nov 10, 2006
I thought I read:

Obasanjo The Greatest Problem Nigeria Has Ever Had.
Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by BUSHFELLOW(m): 8:12pm On Nov 10, 2006
OBASANJO IS THE WORST PRESIDENT EVER TO COME OUT OF THIS LAND.

IAM VERY SURE THAT THE PERSON WHO STARTED THIS TREAD LIVE OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY, MY PARENT TOLD ME ABOUT THE GOOD OF MUAHAMED BUHARI, HOW ORGANISED NIGERIA WAS THEN EVEN IF THEY STEAL.WHICH IS A MUST FOR EVERY LEADER IN NIGERIA. SO I THINK WE SHOULD COMMEND OBASANJO FOR BEING THE MOST TRAVELED PRESIDENT IN THE WORLD AND NOT THE BEST NIGERIA EVER HAD

OBJ is the worst President Nigeria ever had.

Reasons

1. He is as corrupt as IBB e.g. Presidential Library, Ownership of Transcorp

2. 300 billion budgeted for Roads, no road to show for it

3. PTDF Money stolen by Atiku and Obasanjo

4. NNPC missing money

5. Fertilizer deals to Obasanjo Farms

6. Commercialization of Education

7. Killing of Odi people

8. ZaKI-Biam Killings

9. Religious Riot that killed most Nigerians in Kaduna

10. Increament of Prices of Petroleum Products from 20 naira to 65 naira

11. Mass retrenchment

12. stealing of funds through NEPA

13. COJA Stealing by Atiku and OBJ

14. Life presidency Project

15. No security of Life and Properties

16. Removal of Gov Rashidi Ladoja for no crime

17. No food

18. Highest rate of unemployment ever
Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by IykeD1(m): 9:07pm On Nov 10, 2006
BushFellow,

If your "parent" told you about the good of Muhammad Buhari, then you must be a very young
individual, not that there is anything wrong with that, but it sort of weakens your argument,
since you don't have much frame of reference to rest your argument on.

Also, some of your points are reasonable but simply blaming Obasanjo for each time some
idiotic zealot in the north wants to foment religious riots by targeting Igbos or people from
the south is dishonest. We might as well blame Obasanjo for introducing Sharia to Zamfara
and other parts of the North too, right? So every time some politician gets impeached in
Nigeria, Obasanjo must have a hand in it?

By the way, you left out one item in your long list of why Obasanjo is the worst Nigerian leader
- the worst air disaster recorded in the country

Man, get real - you think because someone doesn't live in Nigeria they don't know a thing about
whats going on in Nigeria?
Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by BUSHFELLOW(m): 10:13pm On Nov 10, 2006
Sorry for leaving the worst disaster out but the truth is Obasanjo still remains the worst, selfish and most corrupt president ever to come out of our land.
Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by chidichris(m): 7:52am On Nov 12, 2006
Iyke D, i ve always known u to be so low rated human been but ur last post here makes me feel u are lower than what i thought of u.
someone is saying that his parents told him things and u are saying he is young and incompetent.
if we must go by that u are not qualified to contribute in this topic because u are not in nigeria according to ur claims and this makes u ignorant of the situation.
the president who appoints an okadaman for the post of health minister will be ready to accept blames whenever he goes wrong.
the aviation minister was borishade and he was the education minister before his appointment as aviation minister and today he is the information and cculture minister.
are u saying this particualr man is a specialist in all these three fields and if he i, he is the most qualified for the positions.
you will be a fool if u do not support anybody call for obj's head for appointing wrong people ofr right posts.
the president is elected to have overall view of the country and if anything goes wrong in a country the president will always be held responsible.
the president passes instruction to the governors and the governors to the chairmen and in that order.
about impeachment, have u ever traced anyone that does not end in aso rock.
funny enough the intended impeachment of Etiaba of anambra state was suspended in abuja a couple of days back because obj was out of the country.
he allows who he wants and discharges who he decides.
the federal republic of nigeria has been turned to personal republic of nigeria.
can u imagine a country where Tony Annenih was accused by Urji Uzo kalu of embezelling 300 billion mapped out to reconstruct the lagos-benin-onitsha express way and he responded by asking urji Uzo where he thought the money used to return all the PDP governors was gotten from.
in which part of the world does a party use money mearnt for a federal project to make sure party flag bearers were returned unopposed and we still have a government fighting corruption.
Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by Jaybaba(m): 8:23pm On Nov 12, 2006
A referendum on the performance on OBJ will expose the reality.
So many volumes of arguements in this forum will never change how people think.
OBJ has achieved a lot. He has also disachieved or unachieved a lot more than he has achieved.
Bushfellow mentions 13 of his failures. But the most important issue at the time of the 1999 election and interestingly is still now is the "economy." And on that note, we are worse than when he met us. How do I arrive at that conclusion, simple. We are paying more for everything now while getting less for everything than we used to before May 29 1999.
If in doubt, go to the market and ask them to show you their books.

On another note, more innocent people have died following OBJ's inability to manage internal security which is the second biggest issue in this country now. Want to argue, go to a newspaper and ask them to give you their library key to do a research on death tolls since he entered office.

Employment and Education are third on the list of issues affecting Nigeria and OBJ is busy address reforms and corruption. It only confirms the saying of one American philospher "politicians are the same most times, they promise to build a bridge where there is no river."

Statistically speaking we are paying 160% more for everything than we did before OBJ came in. More people have died as a result of poor security management, incompetence at addressing security needs of the people. Only during the war did more people die than the number which has died since 1999 till date following ethnic clashes. More people have been entrenched and the number of school leavers unable to get jobs have beome 84% since 1999.

These are facts and they appear in our papers only we do not read them.
They are self evident and confirm that OBJ is the WORST we ever had and IBB is second to him but the two are no good and we must resist or refuse whatever plan or reforms both have.
Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by ono(m): 1:57pm On Nov 13, 2006
Iyke-D:

BushFellow,
So every time some politician gets impeached in Nigeria, Obasanjo must have a hand in it?

By the way, you left out one item in your long list of why Obasanjo is the worst Nigerian leader
- the worst air disaster recorded in the country

Man, get real - you think because someone doesn't live in Nigeria they don't know a thing about
whats going on in Nigeria?

Actually, Iyke, I know from very very reliable sources that OBJ plays a major role in all the impeachment saga in the country. Make no mistake, he's the invisible hand rocking the boat whenever there's some impeachment upheavals in any part of the country.

And you're dammed right in your stating that: We've never had it so bad with air disasters in the nation's history under the 'rulership' of OBJ.

All said, OBJ is the ''worstest ruler Nigeria has ever had'' I honestly would love him to resign at this time and turn his face towards Otta.
Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by IykeD1(m): 11:09pm On Nov 13, 2006
chidiChris,

I must have hit a nerve somewhere. I have said it before, the educational system
in Nigeria needs to be overhauled big time. For one, most recent graduates can
not "read". Even when they can read, they can't analyze what they read. Yours
is a clear case of the above. I know it hurts to read, but please re-read my post
to BushFellow and buttress your accusation why I am a low rated human - what
ever that means.

I was not born in the 60's but if I want to lay claim that something in the country
was better in the 60's compare to now, it will help to cite some real facts/data not
because my parents said so. Take a cue from Jaybaba below, though I don't know
where some of his facts came from, but I see where he is going. Its up to me to
cite or reference some facts/data and say I agree or disagree. That you are paying
N100 for bread today compared to paying N10 ten years ago, only tells half of the
story!

Finally, I am sick and tired of people on Nairaland citing Orji Kalu's comments as if
they are the words of God. Black is not necessarily white because Orji Kalu said so,
why is that so hard for you people to understand?


Ono,

I suppose I am suppose to believe your "reliable source" too, right? I suppose your
reliable source might have informed you too that OBJ just signed off on Dariye's
impeachment today. I have one question for your "reliable source", can you ask
him why it took over 3 years to finally impeach Dariye? Give me a break! I have my
"reliable sources" too!
Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by BigB11(m): 11:16pm On Nov 13, 2006
IYKE-D: Calm down, it's not that serious.
Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by IykeD1(m): 11:29pm On Nov 13, 2006
Big B1,

For once, I will listen to you. . . though its hard to when I see people spew out trash
all the time. Its like a fly doesn't even move without OBJ giving the orders. I will calm
down and pray that I don't see another trash come my way again today, . . Cheers!
Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by dblock(m): 3:58am On Nov 15, 2006
People haven’t realized the rigour of Obasanjo’s decisions, Obasanjo as paved the way for another leader to follow up and complete what he has not completed and succeed in what he has failed in, Obasanjo has created a society with more justice than the previous, believe it or not but if Nigeria is blessed with a good president next year it probably be because of OBJ, here is
a list of necessary and vital fundamentals that OBJ’s Admin has put in place.
(I) OBJ’s admin put in place a strong corruption and crime fighting organization (EFCC)
(II) OBJ signed bilateral agreements that will prove vital in the immediate future of this nation
(III) OBJ’s admin made the business atmosphere in Nigeria more transparent thus encouraging investors to invest into the nation and indirectly creation economical opportunities and creating money for the people through created jobs
undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided
Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by ono(m): 11:00am On Nov 15, 2006
Iyke-D:

chidiChris,
Ono,
I suppose I am suppose to believe your "reliable source" too, right? I suppose your
reliable source might have informed you too that OBJ just signed off on Dariye's
impeachment today. I have one question for your "reliable source", can you ask
him why it took over 3 years to finally impeach Dariye? Give me a break! I have my
"reliable sources" too!

Iyke-D,
It's no longer news that we have spies on this board. So I wll not disclose my ''very very reliable'' source in here. Sorry.

Now to your question: Why it took 3 years to get Dariye out (I understand he's been booted out). This is simple enough for political folks on this forum to answer.

Taking a look at the trail of events that led up to his removal from office, (by willing tools in the hands of their master - EFCC, very few members of the SHA, and a sacked judge), it's glaring to all that Dariye fell out of favour with the boss (OBJ). I have said it time and again on this board that many, if not all the governors re-elected on the platform of the PDP were handpicked and not voted for. They were picked by the cabal in the PDP. Some of them felt they could bite the finger that fed them and get away with it. One of such is Dariye. The results is the impeachment gale sweeping across the land.

So, it took this long to get him out because, OBJ wants the impeachment moves to look as ''clean'' as possible and generally acceptable to everyone both in the state and the country in general. This could not be done, hence the use of ''brutal'' force.
Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by IykeD1(m): 12:21pm On Nov 15, 2006
Ono,

Spies? Reliable sources

We will just have to agree to disagree. Methinks its about time we Nigerians raise our
level of thinking a bit, people give Obasanjo way too much credit. I am not a conspiracy
theorist, so I find it hard to believe that essentially nothing happens in Nigeria without
Obasanjo snapping his fingers. I just find it even harder to believe that there are no
ambitious politicians at the state levels who are hell bent on seizing any opportunity to
impeach their sitting governors so as to further their personal political interests, rather
its all about Obasanjo settling scores. Oh well!
Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by ono(m): 1:47pm On Nov 15, 2006
OBJ is a greedy man. Those who know him well will tell you that he's very cunning. He never forgets, he might forgive you, but he won't forget. And he loves paying back his ''enemies'' in a very ''big'' way. He loves ''accountability''

Payback time caught up with Dariye, and paying, he's done very well.

All said, what ever political turmoil/goodwill we're experiencing in this country, and in any other country for that matter is easily traceable to the guy at the helm of affairs of state. I need not outline all the evils that has befallen this country in the last seven years plus of OBJ's ''rulership''. It's there for all to see.

I do not object to Dariye's impeachment for any act of ''gross misconduct'' (I guess I'll need Davidylan to interprete that one), but should they go about it the way they have done? If we were still under the ''rulership'' of Abacha or ''Marangida'', I will not give a hoot if they tie Dariye to the stakes and burn him for corruptly enriching himself. But to remove the man, when we're in a democratic setting, under a ruler whose slogan is anti-corruption but who is also corrupt! then, I'll give everything I have to shout against that sort of injustice,
Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by Mariory(m): 2:07pm On Nov 15, 2006
ono:

It's no longer news that we have spies on this board. So I wll not disclose my ''very very reliable'' source in here. Sorry.

BWUHAHAHAHA! It's true what they say. The internet makes people feel important. grin
Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by Odeku(m): 2:12pm On Nov 15, 2006
Some people just open their mouth and start talking without thinking. How can you justify or compare presidents when you werent even born when some of this leaders were distroying Nigeria? It's like asking my 5 year old kid do you think Bush is the best president USA ever had? A brain of a 5 year old kid when IBB was in office has nothing to talk about about the corruption in Nigeria because all they know is he said she said.
Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by ono(m): 2:33pm On Nov 15, 2006
One of my friends once told me I look at issues like a kid. He said I need to understand that issues don't always appear in black and white; sometimes, they have shades of grey in them, and I should be able to accommodate them.

So, I set out to start looking at the ''greyish'' part of issues, so that I would be a[b]''mature'' person[/b]. Over the years, and as I age, I realise that It just did not work with me. I found out that It is the way corrupt people look at issues. The greyish portion of issues does not go down well with my person and I love looking at issues in black and white. Some of my friends have come to that realisation that it's the way I want to live my life, and as such will have to adjust to accommodate me.

So, friends on NL, take no offence when I don't seem to bend. That's just the way I am.
Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by Odeku(m): 2:39pm On Nov 15, 2006
you cool, just be realistic when making comments on issues you are not versed in. people take offense when people speak without validating or substantiating their point.
Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by chidichris(m): 7:52am On Nov 23, 2006
Lewa,
i must confess that at least someone who is surposed to be in the usa is calling a spade a spade for ones.
we have to be frank to oursleves.
we are doomed and the gospel truth here is that obj is the worst thing that has ever happened to nigeria.
imagine a nation so digenerated in robberies that military is now placed on alart in the the major cities.
what do u tell a group of young educated men without food on the table and not even sure of their future?
what do u tell a trader who come to his shop one morning to see that he is out of business. what do u tell people whose goods are siezed and sold to top officials as aution leaving them without an alternative.
the president have succeeded in many ways to make himself as comfortable as possible.
he does not observe the unsteadiness of the electricity. he does not travel by roads to anywhere. he does not know what it means to be held by armed robbers for 5 devilish hours.
Nigeria, a rich oil nation with the masses finding it difficult to eat. the funds spent on building bell university can afford steady electricity for the whole nation. the money lavish on personal library of the president will put most of our roads to better shapes. money spent on presidential jet and helicopter could afford nigeria a working airline.
money retrieved from abacha's loote could make all nigerians millionaires. money recovered from alamaysia alone could afford bayasa state good roads and electricity. a 300 billion contract funds directed to Toney annenih could put many roads in nigeria into shape.
a 12.4 billion dollars fraud link to ibb could bring many nigerians suffering abroad back home.
obj is the president as well as the petrolium minister yet we cannot boost of any tangible thing or project for eight years still a low brain nigerian comes here to praise the only man who have got the opportunity to rule nigeria as a military head of state as well as a civialian president for a full two tenures of eight years.
if we cannot hold obj responsible for all these predicaments, then let us kill governors who are doing the same crimes with him.
if the two ubas( andy and chris) are still free people in nigeria, why won't alamasya be a free man. why won't asari dokubo be a free man? why will people like toney annenih and bode george be still working arround the corridors of powers when fayose, dariye are decleared wanted? are we in an era of secred cows or what? the deciet is so unbecoming. if why he is still in power even the lame men in the streets are able to say much about his failures what are we expecting when he leaves?
Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by IykeD1(m): 3:46pm On Nov 23, 2006
Well, since chidichris is not happy with Obasanjo, lets push to have the courts, police and any law
enforcement agency disbanded in Nigeria. What's the use of having them when the president
himself is corrupt and is yet to be brought to justice. Why hinder the governors or anyone at that
from looting - yes its ALL YOU CAN LOOT!!!

Hope that will make chidichris a very happy man. I am sure somehow that in itself will transform the
entire society and solve all the problems that Obasanjo has not been able to solve within the past
8 years! Roads will miraclously appear, jobs will be created for the unemployed, etc, etc, etc.

Brilliant indeed,why haven't we thought about this years ago
Re: Obasanjo The Greatest President Nigeria Has Ever Had by ono(m): 5:56pm On Nov 23, 2006
OK Guys, I now have the true meaning of ''gross misconduct'' - as supplied from the library of the one and only davidylan.

Gross misconduct - A vague ubiquitous term that does not describe any particular crime but is used as a smokescreen by legislathieves to remove those who deny them access to the public till.

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