1Sharon:


But since it's obvious they are milking the system, don't they make them pay up?

I think they did the same to a Nigerian lady that came to the UK and had triplets I think, it was in the papers.

She's slowly paying up the debt

In Brazil they don't , whether you are having triplets or quintuplets. Just get yourself your CPF at the policia federal (any tourist can get it), then waltz into any public hospital and you will be able to give birth for free.

Nigerians and their peculiar thought process

justwise:


They don’t need to change constitution to stop foreigners abusing the health care.

Hmmmn true, but even a mere act of parliament is very tedious now with the hyper partisanship in the United States. The last time comprehensive immigration reform passed was in 1970s during the Reagan Administration. Nothing can get 60 votes now in the United States Senate and any Trumpian bill is dead on arrival in a democratic controlled House. Same goes for healthcare, democrats would resist any changes, it wont get 60 votes in the senate, heck it won't even get 51 votes if done through budget reconciliation, that's how fraught healthcare bills are in the United States. So it's tough.

I honestly don't know about Brazil, but it's a federal republic and I suspect the processes should be similar to that of America. I could be wrong though. Maybe MrBrownJay can speak on it although I highly doubt they would change there healthcare laws just cos of some perceived abuse by foreigners.

RedPanda:


Hmmmn true, but even a mere act of parliament is very tedious now with the hyper partisanship in the United States. The last time comprehensive immigration reform passed was in 1970s during the Reagan Administration. Nothing can get 60 votes now in the United States Senate and any Trumpian bill is dead on arrival in a democratic controlled House. Same goes for healthcare, democrats would resist any changes, it wont get 60 votes in the senate, heck it won't even get 51 votes if done through budget reconciliation, that's how fraught healthcare bills are in the United States. So it's tough.

I honestly don't know about Brazil, but it's a federal republic and I suspect the processes should be similar to that of America. I could be wrong though. Maybe MrBrownJay can speak on it although I highly doubt they would change there healthcare laws just cos of some perceived abuse by foreigners.

I'm not talking about USA

Ugosample:
Nigerians and their peculiar thought process

Hian, wetin Nigerians do you

MrBrownJay1:


In Brazil they don't , whether you are having triplets or quintuplets. Just get yourself your CPF at the policia federal (any tourist can get it), then waltz into any public hospital and you will be able to give birth for free.

How many days does it take to get CPF at Brazilian embassy in Nigeria? A friend applied on Monday and he was told there is network issue. They promised to mail the CPF print out to him... Up till now, he hasn't receive mail from the embassy.

Any idea on what to do? He has sent series of mails but they said it will be sent once is approved

peppo4live:

How many days does it take to get CPF at Brazilian embassy in Nigeria? A friend applied on Monday and he was told there is network issue. They promised to mail the CPF print out to him... Up till now, he hasn't receive mail from the embassy.

Any idea on what to do? He has sent series of mails but they said it will be sent once is approved

Sorry bro, I only know about doing the CPF, at the policia federal, as you land in Brazil.... Normal tourist wouldn't normally need to apply for a CPF.

MrBrownJay1:


Sorry bro, I only know about doing the CPF, at the policia federal, as you land in Brazil.... Normal tourist wouldn't normally need to apply for a CPF.

This one is for a job purpose and the employer in brazil is requesting for it?

peppo4live:

This one is for a job purpose and the employer in brazil is requesting for it?

Ah Ok that's why....you will be getting a working visa, not tourist.

MrBrownJay1:


Ah Ok that's why....you will be getting a working visa, not tourist.

Thank you MrBrownJay1,

Can anyone help me with the requirements for work visa? Is not available on their website. Thanks

Ok,So after all the back and forth happening..
If a Nigerian willing to have a baby in Brazil,and not "abuse the system ",does that mean delivery in a private hospital only?

shyfulanigirl:
Ok,So after all the back and forth happening..
If a Nigerian willing to have a baby in Brazil,and not "abuse the system ",does that mean delivery in a private hospital only?

whether public or private hospital, you are still abusing the system...but that aint the issue, as we are not here to judge how each and everyone here wants to create a better life for their family. just dont go around telling immigration officer about it.

RedPanda:





This is your problem. it is far far difficult to change constitution in the US or Brazil than either Uk or Canada or these european countries. That's why I kept saying if cos I know you are using UK eyes to view this thing.

when was the last time there was a constitutional amendment either in the US or Brazil?

They don’t need to change constitution to stop foreigners abusing the health care.

dirahm:
Can you give us more information if you have gone through this process? Thanks

i live in Brail...Sao pauo everywhere is a safe place ,I live in Sao paulo,was living Brasilia before i move here...I have benn living in Brazil for the past eight year and i can tell has a foreigner i will saafe never been attackked before,if you dont do dirty biz nobody will come after you..We have goood hospital all over the states,i have a lot of friends that gave birth in Sao paulo...If yu dont live in Brazil dont say one state is better than the other.I work in the government sector and i know health is good here.

iwuchi101:
@Adj10....I want to ask this question, am working here in Nigeria and i can only have 2 months maternity leave, so am sure i will leave after 2 months of giving birth, like you said i will sure secure my child's Brazilian passport before that 2 months and maybe also get a residence permit too, now my question can i go back to Brazil maybe after a year to apply for my Citizenship as the parent or i must live in Brazil for a certain number of months/years ?

My question:

Hello @Adj10, please i and my wife are in the process of applying for the brazil visa and intend for her to give birth. we are considering sao paulo and are happy to finance her stay for up to 3 months post birth. I wanted to reconfirm if your submission that one can process all documentation including the baby's passport and our permanent residence.

In the case where i cannot stay back for past 1 month after delivery within which i trust we would have gotten the baby's passport (she can stay back for 3 months before she has to return), can she get our PR on our behalf or we both have to be physically present. how certain still certain is the 2-3 months PR processing time?. With the protocolo can one leave and come back to pick up the PR when it is ready? This is because i cant get more than the usual 30 days of work.

I hear the documentation for PR is quite tedious, however, i am still unclear about the list of documents this requires (especially does one has to take from Nigeria upon leaving for brazil). will contracting an immigration lawyer/firm/agent in brazil make it any easier? if yes, can you share the contact of any trusted firm with good success rate.

I have sent you an email and will be happy if you could oblige me you contacts for further communication and clarity as we get along the process.

Apologies, as i know my questions seem like alot for a new comer to this platform. However, i and my wife will appreciate your kind feedback.

Also anyone with information on any of the specific questions posed here can please help with submission where they can.

Thank you for saying all this beautiful thiings about Brazil...I live here and i can proudly say you said the whole truth about my country

Logachev:
OK house...so I travelled to Lagos last month and submitted an application for Brazil tourist visa at the Consulate. My wife is pregnant but we did it nicely that it didn't show a bit. We had a nice chat with the VO and he said we would get a mail informing us to come pick our passports soonest. He said if we weren't available, we could detail someone to pick up for us provided we inform the consulate prior...and all. Howbeit, I had to travel last weekend and I informed a friend in Lekki that he would do the pick up for us when the time comes. Now I have received a mail form the Consulate inviting us for an interview. I don't know if this is an invitation to pick up our passports or another round of VO interview. Mind you every single document submitted was authentic and original so I'm not worried of any such incident. I just want to confirm if this email title is meant to be invitation for collection of passport or not

So what's the update on this?

Beautiful thread! Though, I have British citizenship, I am tempted to have a child in Brazil after reading through from the first page.
I'll still plan a visit with the family though, but just for sight seeing.

Zizi81:
Thank you for saying all this beautiful thiings about Brazil...I live here and i can proudly say you said the whole truth about my country

Please I would love to ask if it is wise for my wife to apply for Brazil visa through Portuguese Langauge school in Rio. So she can obtain student visa? Please I need ur reply. Thank.

.

Interesting thread, I've learnt a lot. God bless everyone that has contributed�

Hi princeomoajo, Yes after giving birth to your baby, the baby gets the citizenship automatically and by law you parents also get a PR. However, if you are able to do all the documentations and get the protocolo within a month that you intend to stay after your baby's birth, then your wife can collect the PR card on your behalf, you just need to do a kinda authorization that she will be the one to collect for you. Infact a friend can collect on your behalf as long as you have done the necessary authorization that the friend should collect for you, but bfr you can collect the protocolo you need to get some documents from Nigeria which you will submit for your protocolo application like police report from Nigeria and it has to be notorized by a notary public that is recognized by the brazil embassy in Nigeria and thereafter the brazil embassy will have to also sign and then will send to you in brazil. with the protocolo you can exit brazil and come back to pick your PR but the protocolo is only valid for 3 months of which within those three months, your PR is expected to be ready for pickup. Anyways you can send me an email (samuel.soma@yahoo.com). Cheers

princeomoajo:


My question:

Hello @Adj10, please i and my wife are in the process of applying for the brazil visa and intend for her to give birth. we are considering sao paulo and are happy to finance her stay for up to 3 months post birth. I wanted to reconfirm if your submission that one can process all documentation including the baby's passport and our permanent residence.

In the case where i cannot stay back for past 1 month after delivery within which i trust we would have gotten the baby's passport (she can stay back for 3 months before she has to return), can she get our PR on our behalf or we both have to be physically present. how certain still certain is the 2-3 months PR processing time?. With the protocolo can one leave and come back to pick up the PR when it is ready? This is because i cant get more than the usual 30 days of work.

I hear the documentation for PR is quite tedious, however, i am still unclear about the list of documents this requires (especially does one has to take from Nigeria upon leaving for brazil). will contracting an immigration lawyer/firm/agent in brazil make it any easier? if yes, can you share the contact of any trusted firm with good success rate.

I have sent you an email and will be happy if you could oblige me you contacts for further communication and clarity as we get along the process.

Apologies, as i know my questions seem like alot for a new comer to this platform. However, i and my wife will appreciate your kind feedback.

Also anyone with information on any of the specific questions posed here can please help with submission where they can.

MrBrownJay1:


YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT... but dont ever FALSELY tell Nigerians (or any other citizen of the world) that it is ok to tell immigration officer that you are coming to give birth (aka abuse free Brazilian healthcare system).

I followed your back and forth with that chap. While it's a general rule of thumb that you don't expressly state you are in country to take advantage of healthcare facilities, it's not unheard off what he is claiming.

I know personally of 2 pregnant ladies who got in after declaring they are here to give birth. They were very heavy, it was obvious and they were asked reason for their visits. They were also here on conference visits and stated that too. But, if your aim is to give birth...it all depends on how visibly pregnant you are. if you have a small bump and can hide it well then off course it wont come up when the border official interrogates you but if you are heavily pregnant chances are the official might ask you. Now, I'm not saying you go declare yourself you are here for birth purposes but if asked by the border officer, either you declare the truth or lie. Either way it's up to the discretion of the officer to allow or refuse you. Even if you lied that you were here for other purposes, if the officer doesn't believe you then you could be refused.

it's tricky if you are visibly pregnant. if there are ladies who have given birth in brazil, feel free to talk about how you crossed the border.

Nobody is updating us here.

I wish to know more about "Procuracao". And how powerful it is when using it to apply for work visa.

Thanks

MightyFortress:




Excellent!

Ma you didn't include six months salary account, a letter of introduction from employer and certificate of corporation with your application?

Gracely7th:


Ma you didn't include six months salary account, a letter of introduction from employer and certificate of corporation with your application?

Requirements vary from country to country where you are applying from.

What's the update please, will be very good if share.

Logachev:
OK house...so I travelled to Lagos last month and submitted an application for Brazil tourist visa at the Consulate. My wife is pregnant but we did it nicely that it didn't show a bit. We had a nice chat with the VO and he said we would get a mail informing us to come pick our passports soonest. He said if we weren't available, we could detail someone to pick up for us provided we inform the consulate prior...and all. Howbeit, I had to travel last weekend and I informed a friend in Lekki that he would do the pick up for us when the time comes. Now I have received a mail form the Consulate inviting us for an interview. I don't know if this is an invitation to pick up our passports or another round of VO interview. Mind you every single document submitted was authentic and original so I'm not worried of any such incident. I just want to confirm if this email title is meant to be invitation for collection of passport or not