freecocoa:
I'm not digging myself into any hole.

Where is the accepted treatment of what you call "sluts" rape? Is there a way agreed upon by which sluts should be treated?

I try my best not to judge or label people, especially on issues not generally accepted.

Even if I do have a definition of who I consider a slut, I don't think they deserve to be treated a particular way for being sluts.

freecocoa:
Really? I find it hard to believe how light you make this issues, how is it fair to make someone responsible for another's action? Shouldn't we be telling the rapist to get help instead or simply tell them they can control their actions, assuming they don't know this which is even impossible.

I still maintain that, seeing raw flesh doesn't push one to rape, it can bring on the feeling of wanting to have sex I agree, now ability to control what sort of sex to have or even have any sex at all is on you.

I agree, if a rapist is proven to be mentally unstable, then that's another case.

I am not dancing around it per se, I am saying that, you can determine how provoked you get, it's that simple.

Don't think I am all for people walking around unclad, I am simply saying, if they want to, they should be able to without getting raped, because in the end, you are responsible for your actions no matter how we look at it. I understand taking measures to protect oneself in a world such as this but trying to make excuses for criminals is what I don't understand.

You are not agreeing that the rapist could've helped himself to say no, if he wanted to, that's where I have a problem

cococandy:
lol I didn't say your figure in the link for US is a lie.
I said it's a lie that rape is higher in the US than in India.

omo get your comprehension in shape.

Anyways I've agreed with you. So you can rest now.
Funny dude.

#FACTS.

ApexTitan:


Slut rape kwa? That's a new one. Anyway the accepted treatment for all rape cases should be a fair and just trial in the court of law but why are we discussing this? Isn't our attention on the subject of slut walking and how it supposedly is a means for fighting for women's rights? I'm interested in any further explanations you may have as regards what these women are fighting for.

ApexTitan:


The records from the US and India as shown in the those links provided have it that this crime is higher in the US. You do realise that the burden of proof is now on you to prove otherwise since you are calling it a lie right?

cococandy:
lol I didn't say your figure in the link for US is a lie.
I said it's a lie that rape is higher in the US than in India.
omo get your comprehension in shape.
Anyways I've agreed with you. So you can rest now.
Funny dude.
#FACTS.

njokusboy:


Dat is on one hand, "advicing rapists to get help", on the other hand, is advicing women to put on some clothes... gatdammit...
Wait sef, how do you expect me to even advice rapists, we already established that rapists, just like armed robbers are unreasonable pple, if they could not be deterred by the threat of jail term, I wonder what good my advice would be... I am only advicing the party I consider reasonable (even though they are gradually convincing me they are not ).... by the way, I don't know any rapist, I have a lot of women around me and I'd continue warning them to put on decent clothes and stop attracting potential rapists...

And when the someone who cannot control his sexual urge is turned on by that indiscriminate exposure of raw flesh and the exposer happen to be in a secluded area, what happens? Gbese re oh...

I have a problem with the law that allows people that are adjudged to be mentally unstable to get away with their crimes, a case for mental instability could be made for every criminal... all the mad men I have ever encountered somehow manage to know that stealing is an offence...

A reasonable man can, not everybody is dat reasonable, we are saying women should cover up because the world is full of unreasonable people....

"They should", that is idealism... I never made a case for criminals, why I agree that rapists should be castrated, I also advice women to approach the issue with a sense of responsibility, not walking around dark corners with their melons on "potential energy" and their flesh, white laps showing...

Some rapists do not have the will to say no, others do not just want to say, the point is not to give them something to ponder about whether or not to say no to....

njokusboy:


Dat is on one hand, "advicing rapists to get help", on the other hand, is advicing women to put on some clothes... gatdammit...
Wait sef, how do you expect me to even advice rapists, we already established that rapists, just like armed robbers are unreasonable pple, if they could not be deterred by the threat of jail term, I wonder what good my advice would be... I am only advicing the party I consider reasonable (even though they are gradually convincing me they are not ).... by the way, I don't know any rapist, I have a lot of women around me and I'd continue warning them to put on decent clothes and stop attracting potential rapists...




And when the someone who cannot control his sexual urge is turned on by that indiscriminate exposure of raw flesh and the exposer happen to be in a secluded area, what happens? Gbese re oh...



I have a problem with the law that allows people that are adjudged to be mentally unstable to get away with their crimes, a case for mental instability could be made for every criminal... all the mad men I have ever encountered somehow manage to know that stealing is an offence...



A reasonable man can, not everybody is dat reasonable, we are saying women should cover up because the world is full of unreasonable people....



"They should", that is idealism... I never made a case for criminals, why I agree that rapists should be castrated, I also advice women to approach the issue with a sense of responsibility, not walking around dark corners with their melons on "potential energy" and their flesh, white laps showing...



Some rapists do not have the will to say no, others do not just want to say, the point is not to give them something to ponder about whether or not to say no to....

johnydon22:
Why should you tag the way a woman dresses as the cause of rape, this is incorrect.

The perverts who perpetrate this act of rape should be blamed not the dress of the lady.

This is one of the reasons rape still thrives in our society because people blame it on the wrong reason.

Women on Hijab also get raped so a clothing is not a determinant for who gets raped.

A woman's body in no way should be a bone thrower for a man to rape her, that a man is stupi_d enough not to stop himself from doing stupi_d things is his own doing not that of the woman..



It simply means that person is sick and needs help.

You are forgetting there are homosexuals out there and they equally have sexual feelings towards fellow men, maybe on one of the occasions you go around on your boxer and one of them grabs you and rapes you then we can blame it on you because you wore only a boxer which is indecent dressing.


Lol... i'd say mad people that show tendency to commit crimes should be put in a home where they would be looked after and cared for because as always such people always gets away with crimes, they always have one credible case.

They are not in control of their wits...


No we should be against this unreasonable people. a woman wearing what she wants is no body's business . . .I am not seeing any man grabbing a woman in the street of miami during summer where most of them walk about unclad in just bikinis.

That a man is unable to restrain himself is his fault and shouldn't be blamed on the woman, not her dressing or her looks. We should blame the man who is too stup_id to stop himself from acting stupi_dly..



We only maintain rapists should be prosecuted, still calling for women to adhere to your idea of decency is still a way of shifting the blame.

A rapist is a rapist, even nuns get raped... I don't see gays telling us guys to start covering up, stop wearing just boxers outside to avoid being raped..Imagine how absurd that sounds..


There is always a choice to say No. . It is not a woman's fault that one cannot say NO.

we should stop this societal injustice of blaming the victims as the cause of a crime. . . The crime in totality is caused and the responsibility of the perpetrator, no side tracks...

freecocoa:
There's really no need to keep prolonging the issue as I have seen your point, being that, some rapists do not have the will to say no which is a lie, everyone has will(I'm not really sure about crazy people though) .

Since everyone has will, which is a property of the mind, it is only right that they be held by the actions of their will, not someone else's.

Where we are having issues is understanding that walking alone in the dark/provocative dressing, is not the determining factor for getting raped.

If we go with your logic, it's like saying, I was in my house bathing and a rapist somehow found his way in, saw me nakid, got aroused and raped me, then my nakidness should be blamed?

njokusboy:


Lol, my dear freecocoa, you went off so much tangent in your last paragraph, I can't even begin to address it.... buh, lemme try....

If ur in ur house bathing and someone breaks in, you are not to blame, even if ur walking down a dark alley completely naked, the blame falls on the rapist still but you took too much risk and you gave the rapist a strong reason to do what a rapist does...

freecocoa:
Well, that's how the logic sounds.

We still don't agree, I didn't give him reason to do what he did, the sight of nakidness often arouses the urge for sex, we agree but then, having sex is a choice. The only thing I can agree with here, is that, being scantily dressed can make it easier to rape someone but that doesn't make it a reason to rape someone, also doesn't change the fact that fully covered women get raped too, as we all can get turned on by different things.

Why are we still arguing about this?.

ApexTitan:


The records from the US and India as shown in the those links provided have it that this crime is higher in the US. You do realise that the burden of proof is now on you to prove otherwise since you are calling it a lie right?

njokusboy:


You re saying wat has already been said... go back to page one and start ur opposition from there

lezz:

njokusboy:


Tor, how am I supposed to address that long post when there's nothing new in it, am not dat idle nah, everything he wrote has been written by someone else and addressed...
If he hasn't seen them, he could start from page one but if he has, it shows he just wants to start the thread over again.... which I don't have time for...

lezz:
Exactly bro. Not even adding the fact that I find his submission patronising and playing to the gallery. A male who goes all out to blame rapists but doesn't deem it fit to caution women on slutt - dressing needs to have his testosterone level checked as well as the density of his brain mass.

ApexTitan:
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Just so we see what is being advocated for here.

Timbuktou:
Una still dey on top dis matter?

5minsmadness:

Lol!
These ladies NEVER admit defeat.
They'd rather lie to themselves than do so.

Abeg someone should post more "slut-walk" pictures,preferably one with sexually appealing women not these wrinkled cargoes.

all4naija:
Do you think there is raping common among these indigenous tribe?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SW0jzXTS6A

5minsmadness:

Dunno. Show us the statistics of rape cases in that tribe. Do you have the figures?

all4naija:

I am pointing out with that video blaming r a p e on the way women dress is false and unsubstantiated. It is misleading and unacceptable.

5minsmadness:


Pls show us statistics that rape does not occur in this tribe and stop talking long talk.

Timbuktou:


Solid gold.

freecocoa:
If a rapist is already sick, how then does it matter what the women wear? Unless you are saying, how a lady dresses, is responsible for the sickness.

Mindfulness:


The campaign is not about what women SHOULD or SHOULDN'T wear. Their message is clear: Wear whatever you want and nothing that you wear can EVER justify rape. It is so simple.

bukatyne:


I agree with you.

However, does a rapist agree?

I have the right to walk on the street with my salary in my hands without been robbed.....

Will the robber agree?

Mindfulness:


Do we need the consent of criminals?

If we go by this logic, people should stop driving expensive cars, stop wearing expensive watches and jewelry. Right?