basilico:



Did Arabs even come from the lineage of Ishmael?
No. Never.
Typical Muslim inserting themselves in the bible.
Biblically Ismael married an Egyptian.
Christianity and Judaism never recognised Ismael as a prophet in the first case
Let alone Ishmael receiving revelations from Allah.
Abraham never travelled to Mecca 900 miles away from Jerusalem.

truthman2012:
This is another thread that will keep hunting Rilwon, tartar Demzy, Empiree, tbaba, vexdaxcool, lanrexlan and a host of others.

Rilwon:


Simple question u no answer

[size=20pt] WHO IS A PROPHET? [/size]

enieme:

u better not let dem dash u high bp from theirs. I also thought they were trying to learn at first but turns out they only meant trouble in the first instance

Rilwon:


loooool.. both the old jobless man (lieman) and his illiterat friend (malvis) are my shildren I can't just abandon them like that.

You've done your best bro, leave them to wallow in their ignorance

enieme:

im not a bro o.

Rilwon:


I'm very sorry o my sister. I used to think that every member without the (f) notification on their moniker is a bro o. I am sorry, you hear. Thank you.

Rilwon:


The revelation given to him is the same as the one given to all other prophets i.e to belief in God as one and not to associate partners with him. His revelation was directed to his people as at his time. you grab?

Rilwon:


Never knew you are now a hunter creating threads that will hunt people..LWKM

enieme:

u better not let dem dash u high bp from theirs. I also thought they were trying to learn at first but turns out they only meant trouble in the first instance

Rilwon:


loooool.. both the old jobless man (lieman) and his illiterat friend (malvis) are my shildren I can't just abandon them like that.

You've done your best bro, leave them to wallow in their ignorance

truthman2012:


Na wa for you o! So merely telling his own family not to associate partners with allahh is a REVELATION?

Which people of his time did he tell not to associate partners except his own family and relatives as we see here:And he used to enjoin on his family and his people As-Salat (the prayers) and the Zakat, and his Lord was pleased with him."Quran 19:55

So as you tell your family not to associate partners with allahh is a revelation allahh sent to you?
It means every muslim is a prophet provided they tell their family not to associate partners with allahh.

Allah spoke to Abraham as a prophet.
He spoke directly to Moses as a prophet.
He spoke to Muhammad as his prophet.

What I am asking is: where did he speak specifically to Ishmael as a prophet, what was the message and to which people? Please attack proof.

truthman2012:


I am a hunter of the Devil wanting to snatch his captives. So am indirectly hunting you muslim (satan's captives) to snatch you from his severe claws.

truthman2012:


Nonsense!

When I post am jobless. When I didn't have time to post I went to hideout. You must be out of your mind.

truthman2012:


Which trouble?

Tell us where we can find revelations allahh said he gave to Ishmael means trouble because the claim is a lie?

Rilwon:


When you post you are no jobless. But when you post simulteneously on monday - the first week of resumption after 4days holiday, makes me feel you don't have a job. Because if you see how people are trooping in mass to their workplace this morning.. dayummmn! you as an oldman will even be ashamed to sit at home.

Do you really have a job??
I'll like to know sir

truthman2012:


So old men also join trooping to workplace? Seriously, you are out of your mind.

Those who work hard in their old age are those who played when they were youths.

Should I pray for you that you will have reason to work hard till your old age when you are supposed to be resting?

Rilwon:


Yes, Moses and Jesus was sent with the same message. Read Deut 6:4 and Mark 12: 29



Thank you for providing the verse, the bolded tells it all.



Yes, if my family were not aware of the beautiful message before, and i happened to received the message from God through revelation to enlighten them about who God is; is no doubt a revelation. That exactly is the case of Ismael.



The question you should be asking is that, what was the bone of contention i.e. the most important message he spoke and expected them to carry out.




This question doesn't make sense. Try again.

Rilwon:


Well, the President is 72 years old. And if he had happened to be in Nigeria today, he would've joined the trooping to his office in Aso rock.

Are you older than him?

truthman2012:


Allah claimed he spoke to Abraham and we have many verses to turn to.

He claimed he spoke to Moses, there are many references. You claim he spoke to Muhammad, the whole quran is clear on that.

Where did he speak to Ishmael as a prophet? Nowhere!!!

Allahh is a liar, Ishmael did not receive any revelations as claimed by him.

truthman2012:

Do you know the meaning of the word ''trooping''?
Does a president troop to office?

I wonder what will become of you brain when you are a little older. No wonder your defences do not tally with good reasoning.

Rilwon:


intr.v. trooped, troop·ing ,
To move or go as a group or in large numbers: .
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/trooping

The President doesn't go all alone to his office, does he?

Rilwon:


Wow! so you can turn to verses to substantiate Abraham but you cant do the same for Ismael? Thought pu quoted Quran 19:55 the other time?
What revelation did Abraham receive?



Issorite!



I don't get you here. You don't expect the record of where God spoke to every prophet sent by him. You've already been shown that thousands of prohet was sent by him, where he spoke to them is not the bone of contention if not the message spoken to them. Quran 19:55 as you rightly quoted the other time attest to the fact that he delivered God's message to his fsmily and his people. What nonsense are you asking me again

Please define the word 'REVELATION'..

truthman2012:


Okay, I now understand your problem. You do not know what revelation is.

Revelation means God talking to man audibly or by dream or by inspiration, just as Muhammad heard Gabriel speak to him.

When and where did that happen to Ishmael and what was the message?

jcross19:
I laugh in arabian ahhahhahhah no any reasonable answers from islamic scholars on board well they cant get the answer when allah cant even get straight answer but confuse. Allah you are confused .

Rilwon:


I know what it means.. But wait, why didnt you address the other post?

Kindly refer back to the post please..



I have been repeating my explanation to you repeated question. Please dont let enieme mock me. She already warned me that you will waste my time, but being the fact that you are my child I am not ready to leave you just like that.

rev- e- la- tion
1.
2.
[rev- uh -ley -sh uh n]
noun
the act of revealing or disclosing; disclosure. something revealed or disclosed, especially a striking disclosure, as of something not before realized.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/revelation

In other words, God revealed many disclosure that are not before realized to people that are not even Prophets.



When it happened is best known to God. Where it happened is not the bone of contention.. The bone of contention is what the message was which is to believe in God and not to have partners beside him.

enieme:
i dont think ill be disappointed.

jcross19:
[s]I laugh in arabian ahhahhahhah no any reasonable answers from islamic scholars on board well they cant get the answer when allah cant even get straight answer but confuse. Allah you are confused .[/s]

Gerrout jor illiterate boy! Better go and cure your leprosy!

Rilwon:


Alright ma'am.