EkeneElectrons:


stay there now, make satan dey win una.

Question: "What is the definition of a cult?"

Answer: When people hear the word cult, they often think of a group that worships Satan, sacrifices animals, or takes part in evil, bizarre, and pagan rituals. However, in reality, a cult rarely involves such things. In fact, a cult, in the broadest sense of the word, is simply a religious system with particular rites and customs.

Usually, though, a cult is more narrowly defined, and the word refers to an unorthodox sect whose members distort the original doctrines of the religion. In a Christian context, the definition of a cult is, specifically, "a religious group that denies one or more of the fundamentals of biblical truth." A cult is a group that teaches doctrines that, if believed, will cause a person to remain unsaved. A cult claims to be part of a religion, yet it denies essential truth(s) of that religion. Therefore, a Christian cult will deny one or more of the fundamental truths of Christianity while still claiming to be Christian.

The two most common teachings of Christian cults are that Jesus was not God and that salvation is not by faith alone. A denial of the deity of Christ results in the view that Jesus' death was insufficient to pay for our sins. A denial of salvation by faith alone results in the teaching that salvation is achieved by our own works. The apostles dealt with cults in the early years of the church: for example, John addresses the teaching of Gnosticism in 1 John 4:1–3. John's litmus test for godly doctrine was "Jesus Christ has come in the flesh" (verse 2)—a direct contradiction of the Gnostic heresy (cf. 2 John 1:7).

The two most well-known examples of cults today are the Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons. Both groups claim to be Christian, yet both deny the deity of Christ and salvation by faith alone. Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons believe many things that are in agreement with or similar to what the Bible teaches. However, the fact that they deny the deity of Christ and preach a salvation by works qualifies them as cults. Many Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, and members of other cults are moral people who genuinely believe they hold the truth. As Christians, our hope and prayer must be that many people involved in cults will see through the lies and will be drawn to the truth of salvation through faith in Jesus Christ alone.

EkeneElectrons:


Mr man, if you like believe what you read there, is you that know.

paulGrundy:


I believed it because it was backed up with evidence, which I checked and confirmed to be true. E.g I came to understand that Cults are groups that use mind control methods (guilt and fear) to maintain and control members. Members are told that their group is the only way, and whatever that is taught should be accepted without questioning.

EkeneElectrons:


MR MAN everytime they tell us to think about what we are learning and see if it's true, you don't just go read stuffs you see online because you don't know what's happening...if you like serve jehovah, if you like don't serve him, his not FORCING anybody, neither are we FORCING anybody. all we have to do is obey his commandments and gain everlasting life he has promised us according to the SCRIPTURES and it's impossible for God to lie, if you like obey, if you like don't, if you like follow what is written online in satan's world, if you like don't.

when the end comes, you will see it. case closed.

paulGrundy:


Glad you know that! And I also wish that you know that NO man or organization can replace Jesus as mediator/link between man and God, knowing this will help you understand the Real truth without pre-meditated bias of men who self appointed themselves to govern Jehovahs children because of their pocket.

You said the end will come abi? Please when?? 1975? 2016?

OLAADEGBU:


Objection 3. 

Jesus Is the Firstborn:

Some cults argue that because Jesus is the "firstborn of creation" (Colosians 1:15), He is a created being and hence cannot be truly God.  Biblically, however, Christ was not created but is the Creator (Colosians 1:16; John 1:3). 

The term firstborn, defined biblically, means Christ is "the first in rank" and "pre-eminent" over the creation He brought into being.

OLAADEGBU:


4. Objection 4. 

Jesus Is Not All-Knowing:

Some cults argue that because Jesus said no one knows the day or hour of His return except the Father (Mark 13:32), Jesus must not be all-knowing and hence must not be truly God. 

In response, Jesus in the Gospels sometimes spoke from the perspective of His divinity and at other times from the perspective of His humanity (Philipians 2:5-11).  Had He been speaking from His divinity, He would not have said He did not know the day or hour.  Other verses show that Christ, as God, knows all things (Matthew 17:27; Luke 5:4-6; John 2:25; 16:30; 21:17).

https://www.nairaland.com/531625/evidence-deity-christ/15

OLAADEGBU:


Objection 5. 

Jesus Prayed:

Some cults argue that because Jesus prayed to the Father, He could not truly be God. 

Biblically, however, it was in His humanity that Christ prayed to the Father.  Since Christ came as a man -- and since one of the proper duties of man is to worship, pray to and adore God -- it was perfectly proper for Jesus to address the Father in prayer.  Positionally speaking as a man, as a Jew and as our High Priest -- "in all things He had to be made like His brethren" (Hebrews 2:7) -- Jesus could pray to the Father.  But this in no way detracts from His intrinsic deity.

OLAADEGBU:


Objection 6. 

The Trinity Is Illogical:

Some cults claim the Trinity is illogical ("three in one" ). 

In response, the Trinity does not entail three gods in one God, or three persons in one person.  Such claims would be nonsensical.  There is nothing contradictory, however, in affirming three persons in one God (or three whos in one what).

Jayphizzy:


There Is Something Off About Those JW People.....

Ken4Christ:


I didn't watch the video cause I know who the JW are for over 20 years now. To say they are cultists is even an understatement. They are agents of darkness disguised as ministers of light. Their teachings are complete perversion of the gospel. It is only those who refused to believe the truth of the gospel that listens to them. They are not Christians to start with. I mean they are not born again. For anyone to be a Christian, you must first receive Christ into your life as your Lord and personal Saviour. It is based on Romans10:9-10.

Have you ever seen the JW come to preach about Jesus to you. They won't because they do not have any testimony of true conversion. Rather they refute virtually all the truth that Jesus and his Apostles taught. They are anti Christ. They don't even believe that God raised Jesus from the dead bodily. They also don't believe that Christ is coming back visibly. They also deny the existence of hell which Jesus taught in such an explicit manner. Don't get mad when they are criticized. We are only helping to save you from their destructive doctrines. We are not envious of them but only feel sorry for those that have been held captive by their demonic doctrines. Please give your life to Christ and study the Bible for yourself. Time is running out. We are in the very last days. If you don't have Jesus, you don't have life - 1 John 5:11-13.

OLAADEGBU:


Objection 5. 

Jesus Prayed:

Some cults argue that because Jesus prayed to the Father, He could not truly be God. 

Biblically, however, it was in His humanity that Christ prayed to the Father.  Since Christ came as a man -- and since one of the proper duties of man is to worship, pray to and adore God -- it was perfectly proper for Jesus to address the Father in prayer.  Positionally speaking as a man, as a Jew and as our High Priest -- "in all things He had to be made like His brethren" (Hebrews 2:7) -- Jesus could pray to the Father.  But this in no way detracts from His intrinsic deity.

OLAADEGBU:


"If Jesus is God, then who did He pray to?" This is a very common question. See the answer at [url=https://carm.org/about-jesus/if-jesus-is-god-then-who-did-he-pray-to/]

If Jesus is God, who’d he pray to is a very common question and the answer is found in understanding the Trinity and the incarnation of Jesus.

The Trinity is the doctrine that there is only one God in all existence. This one God exists as three persons: The Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit. They are not three gods, but one God. Each is a distinct person, yet each of them is, in essence, divine in nature.

OLAADEGBU:

A close analogy of the Trinity can be found by looking at the concept of time. Time is past, present, and future. There are three “aspects” or “parts” of time. This does not mean that there are three “times,” but only one. Each is distinct, in a sense, yet each shares the same nature or essence. In a similar way, the Trinity is three distinct persons who share the same nature.

Oga OLA Very CROOKED, STUPID, FAULTY ANALOGY
Crooked Trinitarians, Does time have nature?
No !!!!!!


Is Time a being?
No !!
Is Time 3 persons?
No !!
Time is abstract. Time has no parts.
God is a spirit. Spirits do NOT have 3 parts.
Trinity shege

OLAADEGBU:


The Incarnation
The doctrine of the incarnation in Christian teaching is that Jesus, who is the second person of the Trinity, added to himself human nature and became a man.

Oga OLAADEGBU deity is praying to 2 other parts of themselves,"my Gods my Gods why have you forsaken us?".

OLAADEGBU:


The Bible says that Jesus is God in flesh, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God….. and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us” (John 1:1, 14); and, “For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form” (Col. 2:9). Jesus, therefore, has two natures. He is both God and man.

Jesus is completely human, but He also has a divine nature.

Matthew 24:36, Oga OLAADEGBU deity with him 'divine nature' doesn't know somethings .
OLAADEGBU GOD wey no know somethings

OLAADEGBU:

He is worshiped (Matt. 2:2,11; 14:33; 28:9)

OLAADEGBU:


He is prayed to (Acts 7:59; 1 Cor. 1:2)

OLAADEGBU:

He was called God (John 20:28; Heb. 1:

OLAADEGBU:


He was called Son of God (Mark 1:1)

OLAADEGBU:


He is sinless (1 Pet. 2:22; Heb. 4:15).

OLAADEGBU:


He knew all things (John 21:17)

OLAADEGBU:


He gives eternal life (John 10:28)

OLAADEGBU:

The fullness of deity dwells in Him (Col. 2:9)

OLAADEGBU:


He worshiped the Father (John 17)
He prayed to the Father (John 17:1)
He was called man (Mark 15:39; John 19:5).
He was called Son of Man (John 19:35-37)
He was tempted (Matt. 4:1)
He grew in wisdom (Luke 2:52)
He died (Rom. 5:

OLAADEGBU:


He has a body of flesh and bones (Luke 24:39)
As a man, Jesus needed to pray. When He was praying he was not praying to Himself, but to God the Father.
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paulGrundy:


Try and check out this link.

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/fear-cult-mind-control.php

OLAADEGBU:


War games!

OLAADEGBU:
Was Jesus created?

This is another half truth and lie that the Watchtower magazine use in deceiving folks that Jesus Christ was created and not begotten. Let's study the bible text below to arrive at the truth.

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OLAADEGBU:
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Objection 7: The Trinity Is Pagan

Some cults have claimed the doctrine of the Trinity is rooted in ancient paganism in Babylon and Assyria.

In response, the Babylonians and Assyrians believed in triads of gods who headed up a pantheon of many other gods. These triads constituted three separate gods (polytheism), which is utterly different from the doctrine of Trinity that maintains that there is only one God (monotheism) with three persons within the one Godhead.

EkeneElectrons:

stay there now, make satan dey win una.

OLAADEGBU:
Is Jesus God?

In John 8:58 Jesus says,

"Before Abraham was, I am."

I AM was the most revered divine name of God in the Old Testament (Ex. 3:14). Christ was not merely claiming that He existed before Abraham, but that He was still in existence before Abraham. Dr. A.T. Robertson, one of the greatest Greek scholars who ever lived, had this to say about John 8:58 after translating it "I am":

"Undoubtedly here Jesus claims eternal existence with the absolute phrase used of God."

OLAADEGBU LYING & DECEIVING HIMSELF .

That FALSEHOOD & TRINITARIAN GIBBERISH had been debunked & REJECTED by the Hebrews long before OLAADEGBU was born.

The evidences PROVEN by the screenshots.
The Hebrews say "I will be what I will be" @ Exodus 3:14 DOESN'T mean "I am".
Your MUMU scholar DECEIVING YOU.

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How dare you force a Yoruba man or Hebrew man to accept your own meaning of a word in his language?

More so, when Jesus Christ have already PROVEN himself is a Servant in heaven, @ Revelation 3:12 & Acts 3:13

OLAADEGBU:
Was Jesus created?


"Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones or dominions or principalities or powers:  all things were created by him, and for him. And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.."  (Colossians 1:12-17).

Now let's focus on Colossians 1:15:

Does Colossians 1:15 highligted above teach that Jesus was created?

You will see here that Jesus is called the "first-born" of all creation.   The term "first-born" here does not imply "first-created" those two words mean two different things.   

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DUBIOUS TRINITARIAN GIBBERISH .

If Psalms 90:2 says "before the mountains were first BORN, will OLAADEGBU claim that the mountains was not created?

Oga, you are LYING to your soul.
Everyone BORN is a creature.

Every first BORN is a creature, Jesus Christ is. Colossians 1:15 is NOT rocket science joor.

OLAADEGBU:

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You can see from the following points that Paul was not teaching that Jesus was created and he was definitely not saying that He was the firstborn of all creation: 

OLAADEGBU:

Birth and creation are not equivalent terms.  For example, the Bible teaches that Jesus was born of a virgin, but this does not mean that Jesus was created the day He was born of Virgin Mary and since birth and creation happen at different times, they cannot mean the same thing.

OLAADEGBU'S weak & faulty analogy.

Hebrews 1:6 "God brings His first born into the world" from the spirit realm.

Hebrews 1:6,Jesus Christ is the first born of God in the spirit realm.
God told the other angels,"pay homage to him", according to Catholic New Jerusalem Bible.
Go & verify.

In other words Jesus Christ was born first in the spirit realm,he is an angel of the Lord JEHOVAH.
Genesis 16:7 Bible commentaries of TRINITARIANS PROVEN this evidence.
Oga,go & argue with your fellow Trinitarians.

OLAADEGBU:


There are two different Greek words for "first-born" and "first-created" and Paul used the word which means "first-born" not "first-created"

OLAADEGBU:


Paul was not teaching that Jesus Christ is a created being because he further taught that Jesus Christ was really the Creator of all things. 

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OLAADEGBU:


If all things were created by Christ, He  cannot be created, otherwise there is something that Christ did not create and this verse would be in error when it states that Christ created all things.

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OLAADEGBU:


Hebrews 1:10 and John 1:3 confirms that:

The Lord Jesus Christ is the Creator of everything that has been created and thus He must not be created, but God.

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DUBIOUS TRINITARIAN DECEIVING HIMSELF and TWISTING the holy scriptures.

Hebrews 1:10 is a copy of the Psalms refering to JEHOVAH God.

Greek word "dia antou" meaning " through him (Jesus is the agency/Instrumentality of creation) is at John 1:3, Colossians 1:16, Hebrews 1:2, 1Cor 8:6.
These scriptures are shedding more light on Isaiah 44:24 but TRINITARIANS refused to accept the holy scriptures.
You said Jesus is 2nd person in your 3 deities you Worshipping & at the breath you push aside his God, JEHOVAH & install Jesus.
Coup plotters .

Because 1 Corinthians 11:3 & John 17:7 no dey Una Bibles.


Is God his Father anybody's "first born?
Oga,Stop capping GIBBERISH.

OLAADEGBU:


In the corrupted bible of the JWs they have "In the beginning was the word and the word was a god".

In the corrupted Bible of TRINITARIANS they put "God" at John 10:33 when the PROVEN evidences reveal that John 10:33 reads "a god".

Emphatic Diaglott ,Rotherham Bible,Sahidic Coptic Bible and NWT are very correct at John 1:1.

Confused TRINITARIANS, continue DECEIVING YOURSELVES.