kay_pumpin:

Compared to the other big 3,Arsenal's folly at the back is preposterous.This shouldn't be up for argument at all.

~Sauron~:

I was talking about the final not the overall strength of the team.
To be honest, the final was the only game i saw in the whole tournament one morning on British Eurosport cos i completely forgot about the whole schitzo.

~Sauron~:

Arsenal's folly at the back was not balanced by your strikers up front.
If RVP and the likes weren't such dorks, Arsenal woulda won more games than they did.

FBS:

Ron's parting shot at Prem

CRISTIANO RONALDO last night fired a parting shot at the Premier League by claiming La Liga has more quality.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2517980/Ronaldo-Im-heading-to-a-better-league.html

kay_pumpin:

Dude should just give it a rest please, he's gone to la liga and should live EPL alone.
What is it with "some players can't match your skill and will rather break your bone" and "referees protect players better in La liga" ish . . . . .
The media is giving Ron and Tevez too much attention,they should shut up or write a book

BTW,Will DayoK love CR now that he's not in EPL

FBS:

Ron's parting shot at Prem

CRISTIANO RONALDO last night fired a parting shot at the Premier League by claiming La Liga has more quality.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2517980/Ronaldo-Im-heading-to-a-better-league.html

kay_pumpin:

Abegi. . . . . don't let's argue for the sake of it.

The match against Spuds and Liverpool was the high-light of our ineptitude at the back.
How many did Man U let go of a goal margin with mins to go?

Our defensive anomaly shouldn't be up for argument at all dude.
It is there for all to see,Arsenal is a team you can't be rest assured will WIN even when leading with 2 goals. . . . . . .

~Sauron~:



Arsenal's style of play is a big factor. . . . . . .
A team is few minutes close to copping a victory and your defender tries to pass their way out of their own danger area.
Where is that done? I have heard ANDY GRAY many times talking about this issue why Wenger doesn't tutor his wards to protect what they have.
Arsenal 1-0 Wigan and you will still see Kolo Toure bombing forward in the 92nd minute instead of taking the ball to the corner flag and wasting time there.

Then the team should always endeavour to score as many goals as possible to cushion the effect of a late show from the opponents.
If you score 5 goals by half time. . . . . .It doesn't matter what your opponents do few minutes to go.
All u have to do is curb them from scoring FIVE as well.

debosky:

@ Sharon
There is no debate in this - We scored 4 goals in two league games and the opponents scored 4 in return!!
If you can't win games after scoring 4 goals, then defence is CLEARLY your biggest liability.
It is VERY clear that defense is our biggest flaw

I don't think there's a problem with the style of play per se - Arsenal are SHIT when they try to hold a lead so we should ALWAYS try to score more since we can concede at any time. If we could defend, then we wouldn't need to continue attacking - we would simply lock up the goal and throw away the key.

That's why we need to improve our defence - scoring goals is not a problem per se. If we didn't draw all the stupid games like Spurs, Liverpool and concede daft goals against Hull at home, we would've been vastly improved.

~Sauron~:

It depends on the quality of the opposition. . . . . .

Exactly ma points. . . . . .
If your strikers were scoring 40% of em gazillion chances you create in every game, there wouldn't be many draws.

Besides, a far chunky of your games ended in goalless draws, should we blame your defence for that too?

debosky:

It doesn't in our case - Spurs wasn't fantastic going forward, neither was Liverpool - instead they capitalised on errors (MANY by Silvestre the baboon against Liverpool )

No - we always finish a relatively small proportion of chances - that is the Arsenal style. Besides, as long as Ade is at the club, that will never change.

Oddly enough, YES!!

Let me explain it to you - the defence was leaking goals so much that Wenger had to play Diaby, Song and Denilson at the same time to give extra protection. By doing this, we LOST creativity and couldn't score.

If the defence were fine, we wouldn't have needed all that protection for the back line.

~Sauron~:

SPURS ain't bad going forward. . . . . .even in the days of the INVINCIBLES, they copped a 4-5 result.
Liverpool scored the highest number of league goals. . . .scored 4 at OT, scored 4 against Chelsea at SB(UCL), scored 4 against Real Madrid and pasted Aston Villa with 5 goals,
How can you say they are not fantastic going forward?

Adebayor is your best striker if Wenger can motivate him.
Since Henry left, he is the only striker who has looked like replicating Thierry Henry.

Van Persie is a waste of space. . . . . .For a reason, your fans are just racists who quickly use the African players as scapegoats.

Goalless draws against West Ham, Fulham, Sunderland and SPURS(back to back games)??
How potent were these teams as at February when you played em in a row?

debosky:

They were not fantastic against us - we conceded DAFT goals, especially Silvestre!!

Based on ONE season, not good enough for me.

I wonder why Gallas and Kolo have never been booed then. I wonder why Bendtner gets booed sometimes before even putting on his pinkies?

You miss the point - we were conceding against anyone and everyone. Wenger had to STOP THE ROT by employing THREE defensive midfielders so we would at least not concede. After he did, we slowly started attacking more - if the defence was competent then we would not have had those DMs and no need for the loss of attacking force.

~Sauron~:

Van Persie is a waste of space. . . . . .

Ibime:

I have long known that Arsenal fans lack the gumption to notice the bleeding obvious, but despite this foreknowledge, I am continuously amazed that they haven't deferred to the gospel truth which thou hath spoken in the quoted content, even after 5 years of seeing the charlatan flatter to deceive.

~Sauron~:

I dunno how he's managed to pull a wool over the eyes of GAYnners. . . .
They so much believe in him and every time i take a look at his statistics, he has never failed once to disappoint me.
His personal best in the EPL is 11 league goals. . . . . .I am sure Arsenal fans woulda dumped him to Cardiff City if RVP is African.

Man Utd + Owen + Valencia will still beat Bayern Munich home n away.
Such is the quality of the squad that we can take any half-decent player and still win the title.
Didn't we sign Henrik Larsson at 35 some seasons ago?

edoyad:

REALLY ?
Then what would have happened to Michael Owen if he were African?

dayokanu:

Its not about the age.

Larsonn won the CL 2 seasons before joining Manure,

Michael Owen won relegation .

Spot the difference

Eastbay:

sauron,
are u a gunner fan in disguise?
cus u seem to know how things go on over there.

~Sauron~:

Owen won Ballon d'Or before joining Man Utd. . . . . .How about that?

dayokanu:

Ballon d' or almost a decade ago.

Scored a hat trick 8 years ago

Why not sign Justin fontaine or Gerd Muller?

Bayern have won several league and cup titles after then and are still a force to reckon with in Europe

dayokanu:

Bayern have won several league and cup titles after then and are still a force to reckon with in Europe

But they have not won another UCL so they are not a force to reckon with in Europe.
Excuse me, who can tell me the last time Bayern Munich played in the semi-final of a CL?
Accurate answers, please!!!

tkb417:

let the touch bearer answer himself
let it come from the horses mouth

~Sauron~:

TKB, they are unveiling Ronaldo tonight at the Bernebau.
I saw some clips on SKYSPORTS. . . . . . The atmosphere is crazy already.

Isnt it a shame you guys havnt managed to unveil anything amidst a pomp and an electrifying atmosphere?!
Owen
Valencia