uchkochi:

Anyone that thinks bishop oyedepo and pastor Adeboye are extorting people should have a rethink because its not true.These men are blessed, Bishop david has no salary since 1986 september,God meets His needs because He is meeting the spiritual needs of the people.

pls there are some people you dont talk anyhow about you are still young, dont you want to live long?

Have'nt you seen people who don't criticise ur pastors and they died young? re ther not young people dying in RCCG and winners?? even the Pastor I respect so much Pastor Kumuyi's wife died young,,and so what??
You better stop threatening people,,that was how some body was threatening that we have not seen anything yet,,and that RCCG would buy additional 4 Jets,,,
Warren Buffet the second richest man in the world owns a company that manufactures Jet and he does'nt have one to himself,,he does'nt even have a driver and drives his car himself at well over 75 yrs of age old,,,his car is not bullet proof and no security or escort drives around town with him,,
For ur information am a christian and worship the the true and Living God,believes in the Bible in its entirety,,we should stop making God out these men,,its so sad that even when they re wrong we assumed them never to be wrong,,,that is not how it should be man,,,

@REAL TRUTH

GOD IS NOT A MAN, AND MAN CAN NEVER TURN GOD.

"STOP MAKING GOD OUT OF THOSE MEN" ESPECIALLY WHEN THEIR DEEDS CONTRADICT WHAT GOD SAYS.
REAL TRUTH INDEED!

solosimple:

@REAL TRUTH

GOD IS NOT A MAN, AND MAN CAN NEVER TURN GOD.

"STOP MAKING GOD OUT OF THOSE MEN" ESPECIALLY WHEN THEIR DEEDS CONTRADICT WHAT GOD SAYS.
REAL TRUTH INDEED!

do u even understand urself

@richjohn
why should you blame the givers? I've attended winners several times and heres how it works first there'll be testimony time where someone comes and says d holy spirit told me to give my car or i was told to give a huge amount or i was told to sacrifice this or that and after i was blessd with millions,i got a job or my wife got pregnant. . .then the bishop comes to preach his sermon,not forgeting to add from time to time ''i can never be poor'' he says thanks giving opens doors,when you challenge god he'll answer you,you should give and not rob god. . . .later he'll say covenant university phase 3 is 2 billion,pledge an amount and see if god wont bless you. . . .when they were building the auditorium he preached service,telling the congregation service opens doors and they should sacrifice and go and work on the site (cheap labour). . .tell me,after all these,would you blame the givers? This is pure artistry and genius.

@uchkochi
so the bishop has not recieved salary since 1986 heh? Where did he get money to build his mansion around gowon estate,so god is now printing naira notes in heaven and throwing it down for his servant abi?

@chinessdoll

Do u need some help?

@chinesedoll

Have'nt you seen people who don't criticise ur pastors and they died young? re ther not young people dying in RCCG and winners?? even the Pastor I respect so much Pastor Kumuyi's wife died young,,and so what??
You better stop threatening people,,that was how some body was threatening that we have not seen anything yet,,and that RCCG would buy additional 4 Jets,,,
Warren Buffet the second richest man in the world owns a company that manufactures Jet and he does'nt have one to himself,,he does'nt even have a driver and drives his car himself at well over 75 yrs of age old,,,his car is not bullet proof and no security or escort drives around town with him,,
For ur information am a christian and worship the the true and Living God,believes in the Bible in its entirety,,we should stop making God out these men,,its so sad that even when they re wrong we assumed them never to be wrong,,,that is not how it should be man,,,

@REAL TRUTH

GOD IS NOT A MAN, AND MAN CAN NEVER TURN GOD.

"STOP MAKING GOD OUT OF THOSE MEN" ESPECIALLY WHEN THEIR DEEDS CONTRADICT WHAT GOD SAYS.
REAL TRUTH INDEED!

I was quoting REAL TRUTH 'cos I agree with the point he made.

any pros?

@tudor
I get your point but its still the givers fault because they allowed themselves to be decieved, I've never being carried away, I attended KICC with my mum one day and pastor matthew preached on 24-hr miracle, after the message he said he felt God leading him to make people sow N2400! and many folks came out my mum and elder sister inclusive did they get any miracle after 24hrs? I doubt it! people should let their brains think for them. another pastor said God was telling him that everybody in church should drop the highest currency in his wallet! did people drop?? Yes plenty sef. now the question is dis if you have 1000note and a 20note in your wallet, if you dont the 1000 how will you get home supposing your transport fare is 150? how can that be the voice of God?

please leave these people alone they are using there brains to make cool money afterall pastor must chop and him pickin go go school

I have attended Faith Tabernacle, where Bishop Oyedepo ministers since September last year, though not regularly. I have never seen or heard someone come up stage to say he was asked to donate his car by the Holy Spirit. Quit all this disgusting, ill-informed hearsay.

Bishop Oyedepo says it repeatedly that he doesn't need anyone's money, and so whoever is angry at the whole point of offerings and tithes and monetary thanksgiving should stop it. That's how you become when you trust God a hundred and ten percent for every kobo in your wallet.

I take it that most of you running your mouths are not Christians.

rich_john:

@tudor
I get your point but its still the givers fault because they allowed themselves to be decieved, I've never being carried away, I attended KICC with my mum one day and pastor matthew preached on 24-hr miracle, after the message he said he felt God leading him to make people sow N2400! and many folks came out my mum and elder sister inclusive did they get any miracle after 24hrs? I doubt it! people should let their brains think for them. another pastor said God was telling him that everybody in church should drop the highest currency in his wallet! did people drop?? Yes plenty sef. now the question is dis if you have 1000note and a 20note in your wallet, if you dont the 1000 how will you get home supposing your transport fare is 150? how can that be the voice of God?

please leave these people alone they are using there brains to make cool money afterall pastor must chop and him pickin go go school

There are varying degrees of trust in God. It's that simple.

@rich john. . .i agree,fool me once shame on you but fool me a second time,shame on me
@macato.
U're a slowpoke,you started going there september and you're not a regular member.i've been going there for over ten years and even attended his school,so dnt talk to me about hearsay coz i've seen it myself.oyedepo doesn't need anyone's money abi?tell church members to stop giving thites,offerings and sowing seeds in the pastor's life and he'll die of hunger in no time

solosimple:

@chinessdoll

Do u need some help?

LMAO ok this short answer is really funny, it got me ROTFLMSGBO

solosimple:

@chinesedoll

I was quoting REAL TRUTH 'cos I agree with the point he made.

any pros?

aite am cool
probably misunderstood your post

solosimple:

@chinesedoll

I was quoting REAL TRUTH 'cos I agree with the point he made.

any pros?

my brother,may God bless you for this contribution. Some people are already worshipping their pastors.

Others like you are simply beefing the pastors in different dimensions

Bishop david has no salary since 1986 september,God meets His needs because He is meeting the spiritual needs of the people.

Why doesn't God bless the parishioners financially like it blessed Bishop Oyedepo?

bawomolo:

Why doesn't God bless the parishioners financially like it blessed Bishop Oyedepo?

Why not do a simple study on that and publish your findings here for all to read.

Using the seed principle as a simple illustration if you eat all the yam seedlings you are supposed to plant what is going to happen to you during the period of harvest? At times i laugh at the gullibility of a lota folks here, comparing men of God to business men or captain of industries. it is very easy to lead a small company of ten people than a big church of a 100 people.
Reasons the 10 people are working for the money they see physically at the end of the month while the 100 people only follow you because they believe in a God that dont see. A lot of time we dont know the challenges Pastors go through in controlling their flocks, all we see is the glitz and glamour. A member of a church can just wake up and tell you his pastor am not coming to church, but how many times do we hear an employee getting up especially in Nigeria to tell his employer i dont want to work again.

Oyedepo as a man is a very intelligent in his own right and has the tendency to be even richer than Dangote had he not harken to the calling of God, so also other Pastors. We should respect them for who they are, pastor or no pastor. QED

U're a slowpoke,you started going there september and you're not a regular member.i've been going there for over ten years and even attended his school,so dnt talk to me about hearsay coz i've seen it myself.oyedepo doesn't need anyone's money abi?tell church members to stop giving thites,offerings and sowing seeds in the pastor's life and he'll die of hunger in no time

Are you a christian? If yes, do you believe in the Bible? If yes do you agree that God can bless Bishop Oyedepo with or without offerings and tithes? Obeying God is the condition for getting blessed, and if Bishop Oyedepo obeys God, why should his blessings now be a function of his congregation's givings? Relationships with God are personal, not a function of someone else's opinions or delusions.

Tudör:

U're a slowpoke,you started going there september and you're not a regular member.i've been going there for over ten years and even attended his school,so dnt talk to me about hearsay coz i've seen it myself.oyedepo doesn't need anyone's money abi?tell church members to stop giving thites,offerings and sowing seeds in the pastor's life and he'll die of hunger in no time

Are you for real, just listen to yourself. Then you are the biggest slowpoke on earth to reason like that.You have been going there for ten years yet you have gained nothing,abi?. This is how some people come here to decive others. Why would one be going somewhere for ten years if he is not gaining anything there, then something must really be wrong with that person. If you have started your own church and smart like them you would have been like them too. Try it and see if its that easy.
We should always think before we air our opinions here.

maddock:

Oyedepo as a man is a very intelligent in his own right and has the tendency to be even richer than Dangote had he not harken to the calling of God, so also other Pastors. We should respect them for who they are, pastor or no pastor. QED

The difference here is that dangote is making money from his legitimate businesses and acumen even though he might have some unscroupulous business tactics whilst Oyedepo who claims to be a christian is making money by deceiving christians and taking advantage of their poor understanding of the scriptures.

mactao:

Are you a christian? If yes, do you believe in the Bible? If yes do you agree that God can bless Bishop Oyedepo with or without offerings and tithes? Obeying God is the condition for getting blessed, and if Bishop Oyedepo obeys God, why should his blessings now be a function of his congregation's givings? Relationships with God are personal, not a function of someone else's opinions or delusions.

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One thing we are certain of Oyedepo is certainly NOT obeying God, not with the fraudulent version of prosperity preaching he is known for. Prosperity gospel certainly as no basis in christianity these crooks are just telling people what they want to hear. Here are a few scriptures to buttress my point:

1 Timothy 6:5:
5 These people always cause trouble. Their minds are corrupt, and they have turned their backs on the truth. To them, a show of godliness is just a way to become wealthy.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 Timothy 6:10-11:
10 For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. And some people, craving money, have wandered from the true faith and pierced themselves with many sorrows. 11 But you, Timothy, are a man of God; so run from all these evil things. Pursue righteousness and a godly life, along with faith, love, perseverance, and gentleness.
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1 Peter 5:2-3:
2 Care for the flock that God has entrusted to you. Watch over it willingly, not grudgingly—not for what you will get out of it, but because you are eager to serve God. 3 Don’t lord it over the people assigned to your care, but lead them by your own good example.
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Romans 16:17-18:
17 And now I make one more appeal, my dear brothers and sisters. Watch out for people who cause divisions and upset people’s faith by teaching things contrary to what you have been taught. Stay away from them. 18 Such people are not serving Christ our Lord; they are serving their own personal interests. By smooth talk and glowing words they deceive innocent people.
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1 John 4:5:
5 Those people belong to this world, so they speak from the world’s viewpoint, and the world listens to them.

Kunle you don go back to your old way of reasoning again, the other time i was commending you o. Let me take up on some of your points below,just for arguments sake.

KunleOshob:

Here are a few scriptures to buttress my point:

1 Timothy 6:5:
5 These people always cause trouble. Their minds are corrupt, and they have turned their backs on the truth. To them, a show of godliness is just a way to become wealthy.
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You failed to include verse 3 and 4 before jumping to 5
6:3 whosoever teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the true word of our Lord Jesus Christ and with the teaching of our religion
6:4 Is swollen with pride and knows nothing. He has an unhealthy desire to argue and quarrel about words, and this brings on jealousy,disputes,insults,evil suspicions
6:5 and constant arguments from people whose minds do not function and who no longer have the truth. GNB

I really do not see how all these describe Oyedepo.

KunleOshob:

1 Peter 5:2-3:
2 Care for the flock that God has entrusted to you. Watch over it willingly, not grudgingly—not for what you will get out of it, but because you are eager to serve God. 3 Don’t lord it over the people assigned to your care, but lead them by your own good example.
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Dont tell me as large at his congregation he is lording over them and they are still following him? In winners today there are men and women of repute who are captains of very large industries and corporation, dont tell me you are more smarter than them. No disrespected intended.
Take a close look at 2nd Chronicles 20:20

Put your Trust in the lord your God, you will stand firm. Believe what his prophet tells you and you will succeed

maddock:

Kunle you don go back to your old way of reasoning again, the other time i was commending you o. Let me take up on some of your points below,just for arguments sake.

You failed to include verse 3 and 4 before jumping to 5
6:3 whosoever teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the true word of our Lord Jesus Christ and with the teaching of our religion
6:4 Is swollen with pride and knows nothing. He has an unhealthy desire to argue and quarrel about words, and this brings on jealousy,disputes,insults,evil suspicions
6:5 and constant arguments from people whose minds do not function and who no longer have the truth. GNB

I really do not see how all these describe Oyedepo.

Thanx for including the verses above apparently verse 3 says it all "teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the true word of our lord Jesus christ" Now my question is this : since when did prosperity gospel[which oyedepo is known for] become part of the doctrines taught by our lord Jesus christ or any of the apostles. Please supply clear cut srciptural evidence which are unambiguous and subject to manipultion.

Yes, There is a doctrine we all must stick to as there's no room for personal doctrine or personal revelation. We know a true pastor by what he teaches and practices.
Paul came out straight on this in Gal 2: If any man or even an angel comes with another gospel, let him be accused!
So, any addition or subtraction to the Gospel we have received (that which is contained in the word of God) must be rejected, so also must the preacher of such be avoided.

Maybe I should point out two of such errors : Prophetic seed and feet washing.
These are not part of the doctrine of the word, and non of the Apostles practice such. So any true believer must reject such and avoid the preacher of such.

Well, I'd be waiting to see what others have to say.

maddock:

Are you for real, just listen to yourself. Then you are the biggest slowpoke on earth to reason like that.You have been going there for ten years yet you have gained nothing,abi?. This is how some people come here to decive others. Why would one be going somewhere for ten years if he is not gaining anything there, then something must really be wrong with that person. If you have started your own church and smart like them you would have been like them too. Try it and see if its that easy.
We should always think before we air our opinions here.

The height of your buffonery knows no bounds! the fact yhat i went there for over ten years should tell you i was been dragged there by my parents,they even enrolled me in his scool where i spent the better part of six years.so yes,you are a slowpoke to think i'll make this up to decieve others
true,i gained nothing there,coz there's nothing to gain and i could only watch while my parents and other peopleshard earned money went to his pocket.even while i was in his schol,there were students who had to withdraw coz they couldnt afford the fees .my question to you slave of deception is,why cant the average nigerian afford his scools? is it not gods money he used to build them?

mactao:

Are you a christian? If yes, do you believe in the Bible? If yes do you agree that God can bless Bishop Oyedepo with or without offerings and tithes? Obeying God is the condition for getting blessed, and if Bishop Oyedepo obeys God, why should his blessings now be a function of his congregation's givings? Relationships with God are personal, not a function of someone else's opinions or delusions.

firstly,whether i'm a christian or not,its irrelevant
so is oyedepo the only one obeying god? from what you're saying,u mean oyedepo is perfect,no sin.thats why god is blessing him. . . .listen,without thithes and offerings you pastor is a poor man.except god has a printing press in heaven

my question is this what is 'legend oyedepo' doing about the students who couldnt afford the fees and they drop out? I know this is a problem in CU, my gf even told me while she was there that some of these chicks I see looking flashy drink garri in their hostels because there parents cant afford to spend more after the huge fees they've paid!
There are some strange funny laws in CU that I will go into I believe tudor understands what I'm saying.

Aww. . . .dnt even mention the crazy rules. . . .chai!

[b] Most of the people here who have been totally brainwashed by their pastors are here ranting why they shld be legends
without even knowing the true meaning of the word.

A Legend is one whose lifetime activities or contributions to the advancement of society fit into the realm of a myth, prodigy or fable.
It is like a story, too good to be true. 
To qualify for a legend, it is expected that ones achievements and contributions to the society must be consistent and span over a period of time, considerably.

It is doubtful if a 10 or 12 year achievement would qualify one to be called a legend. 
Also, such achievements or contributions must be without Wax i.e. not  a patch work, have not been condemned in any quarters and one that should be encouraged to continue in the interest of the society.

  A Legend is forever, thus a living legend is one who has satisfied the above criteria and very importantly, advanced in age, nearing his God’s giving time on earth, thereby leaving very little time for any possible pollution of achievements.   In other words, one cannot be a legend today and tomorrow, becomes a non-legend.

[size=18pt]So tell me how Oyedepo qualifies to be a Legend[/size][/b]

WHAT HAS HE DONE TO AFFECT THE LIFE OF AN AVERAGE NIGERIAN
TELL ME IF AN AVERAGE MEMBER OF HIS CHURCH CAN SEND HIS WARD TO ANY OF OYEDEPO'S SCHOOL
YET YOU ARE CALLING HIM A LEGEND

THRASH

why does the blessings have to be financial ones?

Why build high priced universities that your congregations can't attend. Were the mission schools not cheap?

I wonder o oo.infact mission schools were free for the poor masses,while your 'papa' oyedepo flies private jet. . .

bawomolo:

why does the blessings have to be financial ones?

Why build high priced universities that your congregations can't attend. Were the mission schools not cheap?

May u live long

**Pondering what am pondering ** e ri yen so sha.