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|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nnaabros: 7:27pm On Nov 08, 2015|
yes, the explanation for those verses are quite detailed, so I have to share articles that explains them. Please take time to read them. And these explanation were gotten from our,(JEHOVAHS WITNESSES) study of the Bible, and corroborated by scholars. Regarding john 20:27-29
John 20:28 (RS) reads: “Thomas answered him, ‘My Lord and my God!’”
There is no objection to referring to Jesus as “God,” if this is what Thomas had in mind. Such would be in harmony with Jesus’ own quotation from the Psalms in which powerful men, judges, were addressed as “gods.” (John 10:34, 35, RS; Ps. 82:1-6) Of course, Christ occupies a position far higher than such men. Because of the uniqueness of his position in relation to Jehovah, at John 1:18 (NW) Jesus is referred to as “the only-begotten god.” (See also Ro, By.) Isaiah 9:6 (RS) also prophetically describes Jesus as “Mighty God,” but not as the Almighty God. All of this is in harmony with Jesus’ being described as “a god,” or “divine,” at John 1:1 (NW, AT).
The context helps us to draw the right conclusion from this. Shortly before Jesus’ death, Thomas had heard Jesus’ prayer in which he addressed his Father as “the only true God.” (John 17:3, RS) After Jesus’ resurrection Jesus had sent a message to his apostles, including Thomas, in which he had said: “I am ascending . . . to my God and your God.” (John 20:17, RS) After recording what Thomas said when he actually saw and touched the resurrected Christ, the apostle John stated: “These are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in his name.” (John 20:31, RS) So, if anyone has concluded from Thomas’ exclamation that Jesus is himself “the only true God” or that Jesus is a Trinitarian “God the Son,” he needs to look again at what Jesus himself said (vs. 17) and at the conclusion that is clearly stated by the apostle John (vs. 31).
|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by bettermike: 7:27pm On Nov 08, 2015|
As I was saying.... People, run away from jehova wickedness. You have been warned.
Let me share some of their dumb doctrines with you.
1) They are not allowed to marry non-jehova witnesses. Any member that marries an outsider will likely be ostracised and discriminated.
2) Any member that breaks their rules will be ostracised! Yes, no one will be allowed to talk to such member for a long time. Speak to such outcast member and you stand the risk of being outcast too
3) A televised broadcast information must not be shared with outsiders
4) They have a group of church elders in each of their branches that sit upon disciplinary cases.
5) They have an assasin-like group of youths that are ready to go to any lenght, even if it means hurting you, just to keep their secrets secret. What this means is, if they see that you have evidence of information that can tarnish their church image, they will bring you down! God help you if you have no strong security backing.
Is this not the same thing that cults do?
|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Jessicha(f): 7:27pm On Nov 08, 2015|
See as this one dey turn bible upside down , ogbeni ... The I AM of exodus 3:14,15 identify himself as the God Of Abraham, Isaac , Jacob , are you telling me that Jesus is the God of Abraham , Isaac And Jacob ?
|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by bettermike: 7:29pm On Nov 08, 2015|
bettermike:More to come
|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 7:29pm On Nov 08, 2015|
gasgenius:Can you give an example of some of the changes they made ? We will examine it together here.
|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Bishop1218: 7:29pm On Nov 08, 2015|
thump up.............................................................................................una sabi bible
|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Esdb3: 7:30pm On Nov 08, 2015|
That is just some dumb as shii there my nigga. After so many statements like "and cast them into the lake that burns forever"
All you used to debunk hell was a single verse by a man who was on an empty island and could have been delirious from the torment. The statement that 'hell was thrown into the lake of fire"
Which proves ur stupidity because hell was said to be thrown into a fire not hell fire into a fire.
And don't call me shitty because u made a distinction btwn hell and hell fire.
|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Sarang(f): 7:34pm On Nov 08, 2015|
Jehovah called Jesus God?
And you are so sure its him saying it?
Thomas called Jesus My God and My Lord because to Thomas Jesus deserves that much.
You are right he said to his Son,God is your throne. And in your mind it means Jesus is God?
|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by alexis(m): 7:36pm On Nov 08, 2015|
The word was [b]with God, the word was also that same God? [/b]
It says "And the Word was God".
That above was inserted into the translations, it is not in most manuscripts. Its a false/wrong translation, that is why most translations dnt put what you quoted in there versions.
Which manuscript is it in and which is it not in? Or which manuscripts is it not in and which is it in?
And the next verse (verse 9)continues the word of the father: you have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God has set above your companions[/b]by anointing you with the oil of joy.
Hebrews 1:8-9: Is lifted from Psalm 45:6-7: It's a reference to the deity of Jesus Christ as God and His superiority over other beings. I am not claiming Jesus is Almighty God as I would claim that I and my father are the same. I am claiming He is God in that He commands worship and He can forgive sins. Only God holds that position and no one else
To my point - Thomas after seeing the resurrected Jesus said - My Lord and my God. Thomas was a jew and knew that there was only one true God yet He called Jesus God.
So, I think people get it twisted when we say Jesus is God. God exists in more than one form at the same time.
|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Wumipaul(m): 7:36pm On Nov 08, 2015|
pappy2000:see my dear 'two wrong don't make a right' she's wrong to even date you. Come to think of what will be the foundation of your relationship. You both can never deceive God. My advice!
|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by oluwaseun23(m): 7:37pm On Nov 08, 2015|
My denomination is Baptist but even that didn't make it up there. I don't rate Catholics like that. I respect their institution for being nice custodian of the faith though over several centuries and that's that. That's just me tho.
|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Jessicha(f): 7:37pm On Nov 08, 2015|
[quote author=promzyugo post=39814295][/quote]
Mr man, if everybody will go to heaven - what about the promise of a " new earth " at 2pet 3:13 , na lie ?
What about psalm 37: 9-11 , that one too na lie ?
What about Jesus statement at matthew 5:5 , na joke ?
Your pastors has led you astray
|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Sarang(f): 7:38pm On Nov 08, 2015|
|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by alexis(m): 7:38pm On Nov 08, 2015|
This is not me saying it - This is the Bible saying it? You can't pick and choose what you want to believe. It's either God said it or He didn't. It's either Thomas said it or he didn't. The question is - how do you reconcile it?
|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by DebbyChris(f): 7:39pm On Nov 08, 2015|
[quote author=bluraygraphix post=39813897] I like the theme, so how are you people going to imitate him? I hope it's not just his physical character like preaching but living according to God's word serving him in truth and in spirit.
|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Anamachi3(m): 7:39pm On Nov 08, 2015|
Well accepting of Blood by any person or not accepting of Blood is a personal decision.
But let me take u to a coaster ride in d bible starting from the creation of man. God after creating Adam gave him the instruction to eat evry fruits and vegetables only but later it was after the flood of Noah's day that God gave Noah to eat animals for it to serve as food but he told noah an exception(Read Genesis 9:4)from the Holy book. He told noah that he ought not to eat Blood. U may ask why? God the creator of life well knew that the life of a flesh is in its blood(Read Leviticus 17:10,11,14) that was why he also gave the Israelites that command to abstain from Blood. The israelites when they have to kill any animal will make sure that they allow the blood of the animals to be out properly. They ought not to eat animals that are strangled. Some may reason, the command to abstain from Blood is only found in the Old testaments of the Holy book(BiBlE) but that is not the truth. During the days of the Apostles, there was a decision taken by the apostles of Jesus christ after prayerful consultations of other parts of the scriptures and was then later conveyed to the Brethrens by paul and barnabbas found in(Read Acts of Apostles 15:29) from the Holy book. There,the brethrens were told to abstain from a number of things and such things includes things strangled and also from BLOOD,that if they do,they will have good health and prosper. But one might rationalize that it can't be possible to eat raw blood, but think of these illustration- Suppose a doctor told u never to drink Alchohol, Would u say that since u re told not to Drink Alcohol but u now go ahead to transfuse it through ur veins? Have u not drank alcohol? Yes u hv done dat. Also most persons that are very weak and can't eat can be given food supplement via their veins or stiil yet given drip. So the command to abstain from Blood involves abstaining from it either taking it Raw or through transfusion. As Jehovah's witnesses, we also value our health more than others do, we totally and conscienciously reject blood transfusion and we also don't accept the four major components of blood. We Jehovah's witnesses have alternatives to blood transfusion and such alternatives has worked completely in most of our patients. We simply approach the Doctors who treat our patients and supply him with informations about such alternatives. In most foreign countries, many Doctors have been performing bloodless surgery and have indeed accepted the benefits of doing that becoz u are not prone to the risk of contacting any viral disease or still yet other health risk associated with Blood transfusion.
Above all, blood is a sacred thing and whenwhen Blood was used in animal sacrifices in the Israelites time did foreshadow the Blood that Jesus christ will shed on behalf of all makind for the redemption of their sins. Thanks for your honest question
|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Wumipaul(m): 7:39pm On Nov 08, 2015|
alexis:so how many true God do we have?
|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Mpanyi: 7:41pm On Nov 08, 2015|
Talking off point, with all due respect.
|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by ogahenry(m): 7:41pm On Nov 08, 2015|
THE JEHOVAH WITNESSES ARE A BUNCH OF BIBLICALLY CONFUSED, ZEALOUS RELIGIOUS BIGOTS WHO TURNED VIRTUALLY ALL BIBLICAL DOCTRINES UPSIDE DOWN WITH TWISTED BIBLE QUOTATIONS LIKE ON THE ISSUE IN WHICH THEY ALLEGED THAT THE LORD JESUS CHRIST WAS AN ANGEL AND CREATED!!!!!!!!!!!! SUCH STRANGE DOCTRINAL CONCOCTIONS!
|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Sarang(f): 7:41pm On Nov 08, 2015|
He said it..That He is Jesus's throne.
You wear glass?
Did you read the full verse.
|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Esdb3: 7:42pm On Nov 08, 2015|
So the rich man and lazarus story is fake abi?
|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Virtueofemerald: 7:42pm On Nov 08, 2015|
EVILFOREST:No we can't kill for Jehovah God but appreciate all you said about us. However, we will never tolerate any rivalry with Jehovah God
|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by leofab(f): 7:42pm On Nov 08, 2015|
"If everybody are Jehovah witness then the police will be out of work". police head Spain !!!
"When witness host a party in your compound; they compound is neater after the party"" ... Head Health worker in Germany
"If truly Jesus existed; He will be very proud of witnesses just like wizkid Mom""..... leofab
|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 7:42pm On Nov 08, 2015|
promzyugo:We come to God through jesus, what does that make jesus, definitely not the one we need to come to cus you have to go through him to get to that one.
They claim that they will inherent the earth. Be not decieve all jehova witnesses cos this earth will be melted with fire and brimstone once the trumpet shall sound and the righteous will follow JESUS CHRIST to heaven while those that reject CHRIST will be tormented by anti christ for seven years to receive the mark of the beast which is 666 those christian that refuse the mark after that seven year will use their blood to pay for their sins and those that accepted the mark will go to hell fire with Satan till eternity so hear the word of God and turn away from your sins so that when Christ shall come we all will meet him in glory.
I pray that God will open their eyes so they will know that jesus is the son of God and believe in trinity in one God.. [/quote]
Eccl 1:4 , pslamms 78:69 : the earth will last forever.
|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Sarang(f): 7:42pm On Nov 08, 2015|
Jesus wasn't created?
|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Jessicha(f): 7:45pm On Nov 08, 2015|
Apostle john is delirious " @ underlined , this is coming from a so - called bible beliver .
|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by DebbyChris(f): 7:46pm On Nov 08, 2015|
They made heaven cause of their righteousness and faith and Jesus was yet to come and died but after his death b4 u get to heaven u must i said must believe in him or forget about heaven.
|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by samolistic80(m): 7:46pm On Nov 08, 2015|
major466:you teach human traditions like Purgatory,Trinity,Immortality of d soul,Esther etc and pls make research about this topics with open mind and you will be surprise.
|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by alexis(m): 7:47pm On Nov 08, 2015|
There is a big difference when the Bible refers to us as "gods" and when it refers to Jesus as "God". In the same way, I can say my daughter was the "queen" of prom night as to be saying my daughter is the 'Queen' of England.
Your text is not doing justice to what is been asked here. Clearly "god" and "God" are not the same. I find it sad that you have to refer to these opinions to explain the Bible to you.
We all know why the jews wanted to kill Jesus, because He equated himself with God. That runs throughout scripture, to claim otherwise is dishonest. John 5:18 is clear on that.
|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Mpanyi: 7:49pm On Nov 08, 2015|
You people do not have a clue about the person of Jesus Christ. May be you people have but for the best reason known to you chose to ignore it.
|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by alexis(m): 7:49pm On Nov 08, 2015|
There is only one God.
|Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by alexis(m): 7:50pm On Nov 08, 2015|
Madam, please address the points I have raised. When you start name calling, I will not engage you. All you have done is asked questions and evaded answering mine. Please do justice to the questions I have raised, I have done the same with yours
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