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Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by Sagamite(m): 2:08pm On Nov 05, 2009
Krayola:

haha. You just sound like another religious fanatic.

I don't believe in God so i'm evil
I believe homosexuals are normal human beings so i must be homosexual

Which village where u educated at?

That your uncle that anally penetrated you when you are 8 really left a scar didn't he? cry cry cry

well' don't ley one messed up homosexual give them all a bad name. Nigerians aren't all criminals  grin grin grin  

This guy is slowpoke, where did he mention religion in his quoted post?

What kind of pathetic retards are these?
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by Krayola(m): 2:11pm On Nov 05, 2009
mazaje:

It worked Krayola thanks once again. . .

The funny thing is that these people believe in heaven, hell. Their evidence is a book with mostly unknown authors.

They believe a snake talked to Moses

They believe A flood covered the earth and a 600 year old Noah saved the world from extinction.

Talk about mental retardation.

The most dangerous thing on this planet is religion. It is more dangerous than any Nuke. But I'm confident it won't prevail. The tide is turning. It will eventually. Even if i die trying to turn it.
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by Sauron1: 2:15pm On Nov 05, 2009
Krayola:

haha. You just sound like another religious fanatic.

I don't believe in God so i'm evil
I believe homosexuals are normal human beings so i must be homosexual

U have shown their attributes cos when you see grapes, your perverted mind sees testicles. grin grin grin


Which village [b]where [/b]u educated at?


At least, this has confirmed you were born n bred in a village that lacked nursery schools.
U cannot even discern the difference between "were" and "where".
Olodo. grin


That your uncle that anally penetrated you when you are 8 really left a scar didn't he? cry cry cry
well' don't ley one messed up homosexual give them all a bad name. Nigerians aren't all criminals  grin grin grin  

Don't deny your sexuality. . . . .You are a FLAMING gay.
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by Krayola(m): 2:17pm On Nov 05, 2009
haha. See this guy looking for spelling mistakes on an internet forum. Insecure weasel grin grin

I bet you spellcheck ur text messages to fernando
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by Sauron1: 2:20pm On Nov 05, 2009
Krayola:

haha. See this guy looking for spelling mistakes on an internet forum. Insecure weasel grin grin

I bet you spellcheck your text messages to fernando

That wasn't a spell check. . . . .It's your ineptitude.
I can bring out 50,000 sentences of yours with the same mistake.

Oniranu, alakori.
U are lucky i am not within 5 yards from you. . . . .I woulda disfigured that pentagon-shaped head of yours.
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by Krayola(m): 2:22pm On Nov 05, 2009
haha.  I swear u'll be scared to utter a word in my presence. The beating no go get mate  grin ALl this internet bad guy wey u like to dey do, nothin concern me with that one. We all know u're a chump  grin
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by DeepSight(m): 2:27pm On Nov 05, 2009
There is no need to descend into insults on an academic argument. I believe rational points can nbe made on both sides.

Krayola: i concede you beat my vegetarian example-test with your points. Hats off to you for that, i guess i didn't think that one through.

Nevertheless, all the other points i have made, i still stand by.

On the animal front you cannot deny that THERE DOES NOT EXIST EVEN ONE SINGLE ANIMAL that desires exclusively members of its own sex. Hell, you cannot even prove any animal actually even has desire for its own sex at all.

The argument about anatomy and paedophilia, it appears you simply chose to skirt around.

And no, the philosophy on magnetism is not jargon, unless you deny that male and female are opposite elements. This, i know, is an iron clad argument.

Would you care to present me with any sexual behaviour that you regard as unnatural or condemnable. Please indulge me. Becuase i will surely use your very arguments here to prove to  you that such is absolutely normal.

To be honest, you can have whatever stance that you want on this issue, but denying that homosexuality is unnatural is nothing but self denial.
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by Sauron1: 2:28pm On Nov 05, 2009
Krayola:

haha.  I swear u'll be scared to utter a word in my presence. The beating no go get mate  grin ALl this internet bad guy wey u like to dey do, nothin concern me with that one. We all know u're a chump  grin

I will beat you till you start screaming like a fax machine receiving data.
When i don't like someone, i don't PRETEND and since you have come outta the closet to tell the whole world about your faggothood. . . .U are now ma number one enemy. Gimme your addy, lemme come and nail-bomb you miserable sod. grin grin grin
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by Krayola(m): 2:30pm On Nov 05, 2009
Deep Sight:


On the animal front you cannot deny that THERE DOES NOT EXIST EVEN ONE SINGLE ANIMAL that desires exclusively members of its own sex. Hell, you cannot even prove any animal actually even has desire for its own sex at all.


http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/06/05/gay-penguins-adopt005.html

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/02/07/MNG3N4RAV41.DTL

deepsight, this has nothing to do with evidence. It's OVERWHELMING IF U CAN JUST BE FUKN OBJECTIVE FOR FUKN ONCE!!
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by PastorAIO: 2:31pm On Nov 05, 2009
Deep Sight:

There is no need to descend into insults on an academic argument. I believe rational points can nbe made on both sides.

Krayola: i concede you beat my vegetarian example-test with your points. Hats off to you for that, i guess i didn't think that one through.

Nevertheless, all the other points i have made, i still stand by.

On the animal front you cannot deny that THERE DOES NOT EXIST EVEN ONE SINGLE ANIMAL that desires exclusively members of its own sex. Hell, you cannot even prove any animal actually even has desire for its own sex at all.

The argument about anatomy and paedophilia, it appears you simply chose to skirt around.

And no, the philosophy on magnetism is not jargon, unless you deny that male and female are opposite elements. This, i know, is an iron clad argument.

Would you care to present me with any sexual behaviour that you regard as unnatural or condemnable. Please indulge me. Becuase i will surely use your very arguments here to prove to  you that such is absolutely normal.

To be honest, you can have whatever stance that you want on this issue, but denying that homosexuality is unnatural is nothing but self denial.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RlTAyNI8WE
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by Krayola(m): 2:33pm On Nov 05, 2009
@deepsight, I'm shocked you believe so strongly in a creator, and a number realm, and afterlife, and all this shit with very little objective evidence, and u try so hard to dismiss eveything that supports homosexuality.
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by Krayola(m): 2:35pm On Nov 05, 2009
@ pastor I have posted that video and much more. These guys still don't see that it isn't about evidence. They believe whatthey believe like people believe in the book of revelation. It is how they see the world and an argment and evidence won't change it.
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by Sauron1: 2:36pm On Nov 05, 2009
Pastor AIO:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RlTAyNI8WE

We have seen this link more than a thousand world cup finals.
It has not proven anything. . . . . .All i saw was animals tugging at each other. . . . .The documentary(as long and as senseless as it is) did not show a single sexual congress between 2 males. I wanna see where Gorillas were shown penetrating each other's rectum till the point of orgasm.
If y'all cannot show that then i am afraid this topic should be put to bed.
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by PastorAIO: 2:40pm On Nov 05, 2009
~Sauron~:

We have seen this link more than a thousand world cup finals.
It has not proven anything. . . . . .All i saw was animals tugging at each other. . . . .The documentary(as long and as senseless as it is) did not show a single sexual congress between 2 males. I wanna see where Gorillas were shown penetrating each other's rectum till the point of orgasm.
If y'all cannot show that then i am afraid this topic should be put to bed.

I don't think you are going to find what you seek on youtube. Perhaps some pornographic website.
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by Sauron1: 2:42pm On Nov 05, 2009
Pastor AIO:

I don't think you are going to find what you seek on youtube. Perhaps some pornographic website.

So animals having sex is now pornographic??

Bloody Hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by Krayola(m): 2:59pm On Nov 05, 2009
[size=18pt]DISCRIMINATION IS WRONG!![/size]

When u are in a position of privilege. . . don't forget those that are not.

If Jesus were around today, whose side would he be on. . . . let us debate that!!
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by DeepSight(m): 3:02pm On Nov 05, 2009
Krayola, those links prove nothing! They are cases of affinity, period! You ain't shown exclusivity, boy!

And you still aint said anything on magnetism:

OR DO YOU DENY THAT MALE AND FEMALE ARE OPPOSITE ELEMENTS?

GO AHEAD AND DENY THAT THEY ARE, THAT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE.

FINALLY I STILL CHALLENGE YOU TO MENTION ANY SINGLE ACT THAT YOU REGARD AS A SEXUAL PERVERSION: OR ARE THERE NONE?

WHY HAVE YOU CONDEMNED THE PROPHET MOHAMMED FOR HIS PAEDOPHILA?

CAN IT NOT BE ARGUED THAT THAT IS NATURAL AS WELL?
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by Nobody: 3:02pm On Nov 05, 2009
Jesus will not condone sin. He will ask that they repent.
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by Krayola(m): 3:07pm On Nov 05, 2009
deepsight. . .u have made over 100 "iron clad"arguments on nairaland. Almost every single one has been ripped to shreds with laughable ease. Get over urself.
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by Nobody: 3:10pm On Nov 05, 2009
@ Deep Sight

Man and woman are complementary which is not the same as being opposite. Besides when talking about humans we can hardly get 100% scientific.

You can't say because such rule exists in biology or chemistry or maths or physics then it is also OK for humans.
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by DeepSight(m): 3:16pm On Nov 05, 2009
Krayola:

deepsight. . .u have made over 100 "iron clad"arguments on nairaland. Almost every single one has been ripped to shreds with laughable ease. Get over urself.

Leave that first. . .
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Just give me any single thing that you consider a sexual perversion, let's start from there. If you cannot, i will believe that you have seen the hole, and you do not want to fall into it.[/size]

I don't mind my arguments being "ripped to shreds" by people who may not have studied or thought things through. I spend most of my time reflecting, and i spent all of my childhood reading encyclopaedias in a library. It may not be surprising if there are difficulties comunicating with some people who may have led a rather different life. . .
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by Krayola(m): 3:25pm On Nov 05, 2009
Deep Sight:

Leave that first. . .
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Just give me any single thing that you consider a sexual perversion, let's start from there. If you cannot, i will believe that you have seen the hole, and you do not want to fall into it.[/size]

I don't mind my arguments being "ripped to shreds" by people who may not have studied or thought things through. I spend most of my time reflecting, and i spent all of my childhood reading encyclopaedias in a library. It may not be surprising if there are difficulties comunicating with some people who may have led a rather different life. . .


I think rape is sexual perversion because of the lack of consent and the impact on the victim
I think necrophilia is sexual perversion because of the lack of consent, and just the fact that the body is fukn dead
I think paedophilia is sexual perversion because of the lack of consent and the impact on the victim, the child

well, as far as reading encyclopedia in your childhood goes, who didn't?  Knowledge evolves. . .if u went to university in the eighties or nineties and if u went now, u would be learning different shit. Knowledge accumulates, old ideas get washed away. I think u need to catch up.
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by PastorAIO: 3:35pm On Nov 05, 2009
As full blooded african males, how many of you will be willing to marry this my sister here.

http://btx3.files./2009/08/caster.jpg
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by DeepSight(m): 3:35pm On Nov 05, 2009
Krayola:

I think rape is sexual perversion because of the lack of consent and the impact on the victim
I think necrophilia is sexual perversion because of the lack of consent, and just the fact that the body is fukn dead
I think paedophilia is sexual perversion because of the lack of consent and the impact on the victim, the child


Very good, thanks.

Let's start with necrophillia:

It is not a sexual perversion because -

  1. Consent is not required: a dead body is not a living thing: it might as well be a pillow.

  2. It is the peculiar nature of the necrophiliac to so desire lifeless bodies, and according to you we must NOT discriminate.

  3. Animals have been known to hump dead bodies, so it is natural. There is also a giant specie of spider that kills all its sexual partners without exception.

  4. You condemn it just because it is disgusting to you (same thing you accused me of, on homo-sexuality)

  5. It harms no one: given that it is performed on an already dead person.

SO HOW DARE YOU CALL IT UNNATURAL?

CAN YOU SEE THAT YOU ARE BEING JUST AS DOGMATIC AS YOU ACCUSE ME OF BEING? ? ? ? ?
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by Krayola(m): 3:59pm On Nov 05, 2009
Deep Sight:

Very good, thanks.

Let's start with necrophillia:

It is not a sexual perversion because -

  1. Consent is not required: a dead body is not a living thing: it might as well be a pillow.

  2. It is the peculiar nature of the necrophiliac to so desire lifeless bodies, and according to you we must NOT discriminate.

  3. Animals have been known to hump dead bodies, so it is natural. There is also a giant specie of spider that kills all its sexual partners without exception.

  4. You condemn it just because it is disgusting to you (same thing you accused me of, on homo-sexuality)

  5. It harms no one: given that it is performed on an already dead person.

Would you have liked to have had someone fukc your late father's corpse? Obviously a corpse can not give permission, but maybe a next of kin can. My point is that is is not your body to as as u please with. . .it is somebody elses. If a necrophiliac went to fukc a pillow, or sandpaper, that is his problem. 


I'm making it personal because this is personal to me. As i have stated earlier, my younger sister, whom i love with all my heart, is a lesbian. She is not a deviant. She is a saint. Remove her sexual orientation and most people would love to have her as a daughter, or a wife, or a friend.

DO i think homosexuality is disgusting, of course I do. But that is my personal opinion. If 2 adults want to be together, what the fukc is your beef? Are they videotaping it and sending you a copy? You think u are superior. ,  that your views should shape the world. I beg to differ.
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by Sauron1: 4:04pm On Nov 05, 2009
Krayola:

I'm making it personal because this is personal to me. As i have stated earlier, my younger sister, whom i love with all my heart, is a lesbian. She is not a deviant. She is a saint. Remove her sexual orientation and most people would love to have her as a daughter, or a wife, or a friend.

She is a sexual deviant and if you think NOT, you are hopelessly deluded.
She is NOT STRAIGHT. . . . .and when you are not straight, you are "bent" or have deviated from the normal way you should be.
Your mom knew whatz up and that was why she protested. In the days of Moses, your sister woulda been led to the outskirts of the city and stoned dead by 24 able-bodied men.


DO i think homosexuality is disgusting, of course I do. But that is my personal opinion. If 2 adults want to be together, what the fukc is your beef? Are they videotaping it and sending you a copy? You think u are superior. ,  that your views should shape the world. I beg to differ.

And it has not occurred to you that gays are now beating their chests and convincing kids that a man and another man can elope and shag till kingdom come? I know i am still gonna be charged for MURDER in ma lifetime and it's as sure as HELL my victim(s) would be gays.
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by bawomolo(m): 4:15pm On Nov 05, 2009
i have a question sauron.

do you follow all Old testament laws? do you engage in pre-marital sex and the likes.   I would expect a pharisee like you to follow the book to the T.


I don't mind my arguments being "ripped to shreds" by people who may not have studied or thought things through. I spend most of my time reflecting, and i spent all of my childhood reading encyclopaedias in a library. It may not be surprising if there are difficulties comunicating with some people who may have led a rather different life. . .

no offense deep sight but it seems you have fallen into the same trap as davidylan (a guy which you have criticized).  This comes off as bragging and trying to act as if you are better and smarter than the rest of us.    I guess you are the only one who read books during his childhood.   

Such closed-mindedness and braggadocio  is what led to the downfall of Sadducee and pharisees.  maybe we should start referring to you as deep sight PHD

On the animal front you cannot deny that THERE DOES NOT EXIST EVEN ONE SINGLE ANIMAL that desires exclusively members of its own sex.

deep sight, I expect a "well learned" man like you to shy away from such absolutist statement. It's sad to say you haven't freed yourself from the dogma you campaign against. Homosexuality and bisexuality exists in the animal kingdom and is well documented. gay penguins in a certain zoo remained gay even after they were exposed to other female penguins. There are other examples of this.

stillwater:

Jesus will not condone sin. He will ask that they repent.

but Jesus won't sentence "gays" to death like sauron who thinks he is stuck in the old testament.   We have a lot to learn from a non-violent hippie  grin like Jesus.
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by Sauron1: 4:21pm On Nov 05, 2009
bawomolo:

i have a question sauron.
do you follow all Old testament laws? do you engage in pre-marital sex and the likes.   I would expect a pharisee like you to follow the book to the T.

I follow all the 10 fundamental commandments in the Old Testament
Do i engage in pre-marital sex? What a question?
What has that gotta do with being a flaming gay?



but Jesus won't sentence "gays" to death like sauron who thinks he is stuck in the old testament.   We have a lot to learn from a non-violent hippie  grin like Jesus.

U are talking trash.
Why did God destroy Sodom n Gomorrah?
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by bawomolo(m): 4:24pm On Nov 05, 2009

I follow all the 10 fundamental commandments in the Old Testament
Do i engage in pre-marital sex? What a question?
What has that gotta do with being a flaming gay?

dude answer my question.  Since you are moral high horse, i expect an holy roller like you not to engage in pre-marital sex or lust.
sin is sin right?



U are talking trash.
Why did God destroy Sodom n Gomorrah?

i thought we have moved on new testament laws. but yeah according to the bible sodom n gomorrah were destroyed for their "immoral" behavior.   There is no archaeology evidence to support the claim that fire and brimstone fell on Sodom n Gomorrah though.   Just another Disney epic portion of the bible.
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by Sauron1: 4:29pm On Nov 05, 2009
bawomolo:

dude answer my question.  Since you are moral high horse, i expect an holy roller like you not to engage in pre-marital sex or lust.
sin is sin right?

I will take 100000 pre-marital sexual intercourse to a single GAY act.
U think i will chastise ma daughter for having pre-marital sex? I would buy her condoms. . . . . .

But God knows i will castrate ma son if i discover he's GAY.
It seems you don't even know how repulsive it is for you and Krayola to be cannodling in public. grin


i thought we have moved on new testament laws. but yeah according to the bible sodom n gomorrah were destroyed for their "immoral" behavior. 

What a kike!!! Immorality in this context entails what?


 There is no archaeology evidence to support the claim that fire and brimstone fell on Sodom n Gomorrah though.   Just another Disney epic portion of the bible.

Whether fire, brimstone or acid rain. . . . .It was documented God destroyed Sodom n Gomorrah and wiped out gays.
I don't think the same God woulda changed his stance today so TAPE IT SHUT before you blaspheme.
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by Nobody: 4:29pm On Nov 05, 2009
bawomolo:


but Jesus won't sentence "gays" to death like sauron who thinks he is stuck in the old testament.   We have a lot to learn from a non-violent hippie  grin like Jesus.


There's a reason why there is hell and judgement. His grace is there for repentance, and if you don't? Well. . . Don't mind Sauron, he's a world war 1 veteran. grin grin grin
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay? by Nobody: 4:31pm On Nov 05, 2009
Pre-marital sex is as bad as homosexuality.

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