menesheh:



Why should I ?

cold:

Anything to defend your god no matter how silly it sounds is justified. I guess the time Joshua commanded the sun to stand still has also been proven by science. Snakes and donkeys talking have also been proven to be true. Hey what about that time Jonah spent 3 days in the belly of a fish? Did you know it's also been proven beyond reasonable doubt that a man can actually spend close to a week in the belly of a fish and still come out alive? Amazing isn't it? The other day i felt sad that my friend passed on. I couldn't believe my eyes when i saw him three days later. Claimed he died and rose on the third day. Astonishing! Turning water to wine? That's nothing for my friends uptown,they do that all the time. Personally,i've multiplied 2 pieces of fish and 5 loaves of bread and gave it to charity. Surely bro,the bible does agree with science. I'm a witness.

cold:

It must agree with your god's word or it must be innacurate. Yeah like the bible where the bible says the earth is flat. That surely agrees with science don't you think?

cold:

It must agree with your god's word or it must be innacurate. Yeah like the bible where the bible says the earth is flat. That surely agrees with science don't you think?

jared007:
in ur small mind u thought u made a point? Now let me educate u on the 3rd and 4th dimension of life. The referrences u made are super-natural and faith-filled miraculous events 4rm the 4th dimension imposed on the 3rd dimension where most scientific facts are based. What God has spoken and done many years ago, it took science longer period to discover and accept them. They are yet to discover more becos science deals more on the natural realm and natural laws.

cold:

No,i totally agree with you. Even the winged Unicorn,remember? It has been found in some parts of Australia. The bybull is so ahead of its time it's mind boggling.

jared007:
bros did I doubt what u posted? I only helped u arranged it well scripturally becos I know d extra terrestrials u talking about. They are the fallen angels and the nephilims. The creatures dat went deep into science and built ancient civilizations like Atlantis and probably Egyptian pyramids b4 they were overthrown by God during Noahs flood.

ifenes:


It is only a debate yeah. Whether either of us is right or wrong it won't change anything. I am not the type that will just throw information away because I don't believe in it. I analyze everything.

Let's go back to the quote "let us make man in our image. It is obvious they were plural,so why make the term "god" singular. Not that anyone one is god over the other,its just the way ancient man saw viewed them.

You said the "creatures" who taught humans science,which also included Mathematics,Physics,Chemistry were wiped out yeah? Lets take a closer look

1.Assuming the flood that wiped out the whole world really happened(which is impossible)where did Goliath with 6 fingers come from? Where did the people Moses(Akhenaten) see giants he sent Caleb and the other guys to go spy on in Jericho?

2.Egypt existed and is possibly the most powerful and scientifically advance society the planet has seen without the help of your "god" and have helped reshape our level of understanding. Mind you the Library in Egypt is the source of most hidden knowledge we have today

3. Why did you Study Mathematics and Science in school? Apparently your "god" doesn't want it. Why did you go ahead and study the same prohibited knowledge offered to humans back then?

If you really will be honest with me, you will agree Science,Mathematics etc has done man a lot of good. It had made man make a huge progress from cave men to civil men. This means your "god" is anti-intelligent humans and "he"(they) are powerless to stop it.

Also you are mistaking physical beings as gods.

jared007:
Most of these questions u raised ve been answered on my page "The Return Of The Nephilims" mind u God exists as 3 in one. The angels in heaven are regarded also as sons of God. So u should understand that God was either talking to his word or spirit or even the angels with him. Now God is not against science becos he created it. The fallen angels where once with him b4 they rebelled and were thrown out of heaven with lucifer. They learnt science 4rm God but they corrupted theirs by creating strange beasts,practicing magic and inventing things dat were forbidden. They tried to corrupt human race and animals by impregnating natural women to hinder the coming of jesus but they were stoped by the flood and God imprisoned some of them in tartarus. After the flood giants arose again. Where did they come 4rm? Probably 4rm the gene of hams wife. Remember ham was the father of canaan? Or probably the remaining fallen angels that were not imprisoned mated with women again to raise giants in canaan.

ifenes:


You could give me the reply on here. The bible god was clearly not a spirit,do name examples of where it appeared to be a spirit in the bible? And there are no clue(I do not like to use the word "evidence)the bible gods created science. Science is a natural phenomenon. It's like saying someone created Love,Happiness etc

menesheh:



That's where scientific explanation comes to play. Speciation can be observe in the lab. Environmental factors contributed to pigmentation and other variance in human race.


Follow Bible's explanation of human origin and remain ignorant for the rest of your life.

cloudgoddess:

exactly.

christians are confused about these issues because the bible lacks real answers and only offers chidlike & misguided primitive explanations. here is a real answer for OP if you are indeed interested in reality (from University of California: Santa Barbara website, http://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=1138):

"The human species is indeed very diverse, resulting from its global distribution. Before the mass global migrations of people during the last 500 years, populations were geographically separated and were reproductively isolated. For over 100,000 years this has caused different populations of humanity to evolve in different directions, developing distinctive genetic traits and characteristics. The common name used to refer to the genetically different populations of humans is "race although the term subspecies" is more accurate.

Genetic evidence from DNA obtained from fossils shows that the modern human species originated in sub-Saharan Africa, where it began diverging into different populations 180,000 years ago. By 100,000 years ago some of these populations had migrated out of sub-Saharan Africa and dispersed across Eurasia and North Africa. By 40,000 years ago the divergent evolutionary branching of the human species had produced five subspecies. The different races are often defined and named by skin color, but this system is based on only one genetic difference, when actually thousands are involved. In the more accurate system of racial classification, names assigned to the various races are based on geographical regions that are at center of their area of evolutionary development and origin.

1.The Congoid of southern Africa
2.The Capoid of sub-Saharan Africa
3. The Australoid of India, Southeast Asia, Indonesia, New Guinea and Australia
4. The Mongoloid of Northeast
5. The Caucasoid of Europe, North Africa and West Asia.

The diverse races of the human species all have their own geographical territory. Between most of these territories are clinal zones -- areas of contact between different racial territories. These areas of interracial contact create racially mixed populations."

the geographical location of dispersed humans which then evolved certain unique traits, explains why, for example, whites have such pale skin (the cold weather & lack of harsh sunlight in the northern hemisphere did not require large amounts of melanin), and why blacks have coarse hair (harsh sunlight near the equator made scalp protection from harsh rays a necessity for survival). also explains why many blacks still have high rates of lactose intolerance - ability to digest lactose after infancy was not originally innate to the human species. whites developed it from years and years of drinking cows milk into adulthood, while blacks only were introduced to such habits much later.

malvisguy212:
the bible was not writing for scientific purpose so you don't expect ALL the answers in biology , chemistry and physics in it. Things God revealed to us is sufficient , if He chose to revealed more, Glory Be To His Holy Name.

jared007:
there are many spiritual realities that will elude u if u don't give ur heart to christ. Ur mind is limited to the natural world. John 4:24 and 2corinthians 3:17 clearly shows God is a spirit. My guy the natural was created by the supernatural or spiritual (romans 1:20).

cloudgoddess:

exactly.

christians are confused about these issues because the bible lacks real answers and only offers chidlike & misguided primitive explanations. here is a real answer for OP if you are indeed interested in reality (from University of California: Santa Barbara website, http://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=1138):

"The human species is indeed very diverse, resulting from its global distribution. Before the mass global migrations of people during the last 500 years, populations were geographically separated and were reproductively isolated. For over 100,000 years this has caused different populations of humanity to evolve in different directions, developing distinctive genetic traits and characteristics. The common name used to refer to the genetically different populations of humans is "race although the term subspecies" is more accurate.

Genetic evidence from DNA obtained from fossils shows that the modern human species originated in sub-Saharan Africa, where it began diverging into different populations 180,000 years ago. By 100,000 years ago some of these populations had migrated out of sub-Saharan Africa and dispersed across Eurasia and North Africa. By 40,000 years ago the divergent evolutionary branching of the human species had produced five subspecies. The different races are often defined and named by skin color, but this system is based on only one genetic difference, when actually thousands are involved. In the more accurate system of racial classification, names assigned to the various races are based on geographical regions that are at center of their area of evolutionary development and origin.

1.The Congoid of southern Africa
2.The Capoid of sub-Saharan Africa
3. The Australoid of India, Southeast Asia, Indonesia, New Guinea and Australia
4. The Mongoloid of Northeast
5. The Caucasoid of Europe, North Africa and West Asia.

The diverse races of the human species all have their own geographical territory. Between most of these territories are clinal zones -- areas of contact between different racial territories. These areas of interracial contact create racially mixed populations."

the geographical location of dispersed humans which then evolved certain unique traits, explains why, for example, whites have such pale skin (the cold weather & lack of harsh sunlight in the northern hemisphere did not require large amounts of melanin), and why blacks have coarse hair (harsh sunlight near the equator made scalp protection from harsh rays a necessity for survival). also explains why many blacks still have high rates of lactose intolerance - ability to digest lactose after infancy was not originally innate to the human species. whites developed it from years and years of drinking cows milk into adulthood, while blacks only were introduced to such habits much later.

cloudgoddess:

exactly.

christians are confused about these issues because the bible lacks real answers and only offers chidlike & misguided primitive explanations. here is a real answer for OP if you are indeed interested in reality (from University of California: Santa Barbara website, http://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=1138):

"The human species is indeed very diverse, resulting from its global distribution. Before the mass global migrations of people during the last 500 years, populations were geographically separated and were reproductively isolated. For over 100,000 years this has caused different populations of humanity to evolve in different directions, developing distinctive genetic traits and characteristics. The common name used to refer to the genetically different populations of humans is "race although the term subspecies" is more accurate.

Genetic evidence from DNA obtained from fossils shows that the modern human species originated in sub-Saharan Africa, where it began diverging into different populations 180,000 years ago. By 100,000 years ago some of these populations had migrated out of sub-Saharan Africa and dispersed across Eurasia and North Africa. By 40,000 years ago the divergent evolutionary branching of the human species had produced five subspecies. The different races are often defined and named by skin color, but this system is based on only one genetic difference, when actually thousands are involved. In the more accurate system of racial classification, names assigned to the various races are based on geographical regions that are at center of their area of evolutionary development and origin.

1.The Congoid of southern Africa
2.The Capoid of sub-Saharan Africa
3. The Australoid of India, Southeast Asia, Indonesia, New Guinea and Australia
4. The Mongoloid of Northeast
5. The Caucasoid of Europe, North Africa and West Asia.

The diverse races of the human species all have their own geographical territory. Between most of these territories are clinal zones -- areas of contact between different racial territories. These areas of interracial contact create racially mixed populations."

the geographical location of dispersed humans which then evolved certain unique traits, explains why, for example, whites have such pale skin (the cold weather & lack of harsh sunlight in the northern hemisphere did not require large amounts of melanin), and why blacks have coarse hair (harsh sunlight near the equator made scalp protection from harsh rays a necessity for survival). also explains why many blacks still have high rates of lactose intolerance - ability to digest lactose after infancy was not originally innate to the human species. whites developed it from years and years of drinking cows milk into adulthood, while blacks only were introduced to such habits much later.

cloudgoddess:

the bible doesn't have any answers, and actually contradicts most of the answers humanity has discovered through science. the two are incompatible.

for example, the bible states the stars were created before light was. does not make any sense since the stars are the only source of light. bible says humans and animals have coexisted since the beginning. false again since modern humans did not evolve until 200,000 years ago, and all manner of species were thriving on earth far, far before then (like the dinosaurs, which we know did not coexist with humans). bible says leprosy is a curse cast on people, false again. leprosy is a disease contracted when a person comes in contact with the bacterial species Mycobacterium leprae.

believing in the bible will inevitably result in a complete lack of understanding of the natural world.

cloudgoddess:

the bible doesn't have any answers, and actually contradicts most of the answers humanity has discovered through science. the two are incompatible.

for example, the bible states the stars were created before light was. does not make any sense since the stars are the only source of light. bible says humans and animals have coexisted since the beginning. false again since modern humans did not evolve until 200,000 years ago, and all manner of species were thriving on earth far, far before then (like the dinosaurs, which we know did not coexist with humans). bible says leprosy is a curse cast on people, false again. leprosy is a disease contracted when a person comes in contact with the bacterial species Mycobacterium leprae.

believing in the bible will inevitably result in a complete lack of understanding of the natural world.

ifenes:


Is that your reply despite the amount of mind shaking points I gave you? You see,its no use debating with a creationist.

sasquareT:


What yo people don't no is that there are supper intelligence being in another planet that creat us, the earth is nothing but a Laboratory, these Gods create human in versions, like african version, european version And the like this trait can also be seen in human by our ability to invent so many things in version. The super intelligence being that reside somewhere in this Vast universe are our God whom we serve just like the way our gadget serve us.
My point is human are in version probably not even from d same inventor ( God )

malvisguy212:
which kind of bible are you reading ?
Genesis 1:3
3 Then God said, “Let there be light”;
and there was light.

The text do not say God created the light, the text say God let it BE.

Let's read the rest of the first day to get the clues.
Genesis 1:4-5
"And God saw that the light was good;
and God separated the light from the
darkness. And God called the light day, and the darkness He called night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day."

Notice that every thought is begun with a conjunction, so we know that all of this is part of the continuing action. The text says that there was day and night on the earth on the FIRST DAY. This tells us that the light that was shining on the earth was directional (from one source).

Read this link http://www.sci-news.com/paleontology/science-australias-first-humans-giant-lizards-03267.html First Humans Coexisted with Giant Lizards,

If the bible say leprosy is a curse cast on someone, does that mean we should reject scientific explanation ? Satan is capable of doing anything with his power, quote the bible passage , leprosy was a curse, let us analyze it.

cloudgoddess:

So please explain to me what the difference is between god creating light and god letting light be? what essentially would he be doing differently in either case? seems like you're just trying to derail the conversation with an irrelevant semantics argument.

i don't think you really said anything meaningful here.. my point still stands. stars are the SOURCE of light in the universe. until stars are created, there can be no light. light is a consequence of stars. so for someone to say they created light (or "let it be", verse 3), and THEN created stars after (verse 14), does not make any sense.

and giant lizards are not dinosaurs... dinosaurs are a separate species of reptile. as shown here, they have their own classification system separate from that of lizards:


again i don't see what point you're making.. we have proof that leprosy is not caused by curses because we can examine the source of the bacterium, locate where the person contracted the bacterium, see the bacterium proliferating in a person's bodily tissues with microscopes. nothing supernatural about that. and why do i need to provide a verse talking about leprosy. curses when you already know the bible talks about leprosy curses?

macof:
Africans taking Semetic mythology over their indigenous knowledge. So Adam and Eve that ur ancestors never heard of are the origin of humanity? I weep for you op

jared007:
Abrahams descendants were chosen above every other races to relate with God and gain insights and inspirations about their ancestors(Adam and Eve and Noah) before the coming of Christ. Now we in Christ have knowledge about Adam and Noah. Even if we are not descendants of Abraham biologically, the death and ressurection of Jesus Christ made us sons of Abraham by faith. My dear Macof if ur ancestors don't know Adam and eve, tell me who ur ancestors know?

eposho:

Like the use of EVEN IF, that's admission of fact. at the end Jesus linking u to Abraham BY faith.
Guy u lost me by faith right there.

eposho:
Sorry brov, I am not the seed of Abraham. From the fouth realm to the third, wondering when u r coming down to earth. This where we all live tho not the fifth realm.

jared007:
when I created this thread I was expecting to reason with my fellow believers on the races of man and not debating with unbelievers and atheists full of hate and malice towards God. You need Jesus bro.

jared007:
Among Biblical questions thrown at me I find the origin of human races a mystery. If we are all the Children of Adam or Noah then when/how did the different races of the World come about? Think of The Caucausoids(Europeans,Anglo-Americans), The Mongoloids(Chinese-Japanese), The Negroids(Sub-Sahara Africans), The Eskimos, The Aborigines of Australia etc. My most likely answer is in Gen 10:25 which says that in the time of Peleg the World was divided Or was it at Babel God altered the physique of humans? What do you think?