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|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by coolfaced8(f): 2:32am On Jul 15, 2009|
|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by coolfaced8(f): 2:35am On Jul 15, 2009|
|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by larez(m): 2:40am On Jul 15, 2009|
Yep, the Landline seems to be having network issues, but the GSM works fine.
|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by admin2008(m): 3:42am On Jul 15, 2009|
[size=14pt]Thank God there is a Lawyer with a good head on his shoulder, in the house, who can attest to the fact that the valid observation made by the respectable gentleman Siena has gone unanswered, yet countless number of posts has followed it They would rather discuss my mischievious mundane refereeing skills
I can see posts being deleted I only hope justice is served
|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by Nobody: 3:55am On Jul 15, 2009|
No one mess with Busy_body o
ohh now I get your thread. So you're an architect or do you have peope working with you?
Project seems cool. . . . Can't wait to see the "after" pixture
|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by lapson: 5:53am On Jul 15, 2009|
Regarding the car deal that seemed to go badly, all parties involved need to take time, calm themselves and communicate maturely. There are factors involved in deals like this that all parties are not privy too. I, myself, have worked on deals such as this and have been faced with obstacles unfamiliar to Nigerians. The American system does not give room for error. You will not be able to scam a person and continue living your life as usual. You can’t hide here. Your life is documented and known to the authorities. It is this way for everyone. There are also regulations and steps a person must take to buy and ship a vehicle abroad. It can be frustrating. The lady in question, coolfaced8, is new to this business and she’s discovering how daunting this task can be. The parties must have patience and understanding. This woman does not appear to be a scammer to me, she is struggling to do the best she can do in a system that doesn’t give room for error. Give peace a chance at all costs. If I am mistaken about the character and intentions of coolfaced8, then I can assure you, she will not get away with it. However, in my opinion, coolfaced8 is not a scammer.
|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by admin2008(m): 9:12am On Jul 15, 2009|
In my own opinion, someone who is being called out and has an accusation thrown in their face would try to defend themself, one would have thought, instead of rigmaroling around the place and faffing around as if nothing happened, and trying to rope paint me as a mischievious miscreant whom she feels sorry for, and was instead also trying to divert attention to Siena and Busy_bee Brave move if I might add, but wrong move, very wrong move i say
I can see this thread going in the line of "The Chronic Womaniser Thread" which was opened a few months ago in the romance section whereby instead of people defending themselves were trying to rouse sympathy for themselves by portraying themselves to be innocent and naive, and rope innocent people too into the melee rooster and bull if you ask me
Some of us in the know have heard/seen/been privy to enough solid concrete watertight evidence to come to a conclusion, logical enough to make up our mind on or stance, and of course the question asked is just one of many which is deffo gonna be coming out shortly, so watch this space.
I thank God this is Nairaland which always gives aggrieved parties chances to defend themselves. I am privy to the fact that a few people spoke to the lady in question and of course one would not expect her to raise up her hands to say yes she did wrong, so instead of leading the pity party, is it too much to ask the accused to come and defend herself, she does not come across as the type who can ever be short of a word or two Why hasn't she answered the accusation being bandied around Is it because she is fishing and bidding for more time
Oh lest I forget, I understand fully well that some things go wrong, and would always do in life, but in this particular case, I am in possesion of watertight material relating to the timeframe involved in this deal, so methinks people needs to be able to call a spade a spade
|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by Nobody: 9:18am On Jul 15, 2009|
Hmmm, is this thread going to go down in NL history, as one of those great unsolved "who dunnits's" that one tends to come across in real life?
|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by admin2008(m): 9:23am On Jul 15, 2009|
Well I sincerely hope not, because the owner of the site thankfully too, is not of the old, fogey corrupt generation of Nigerians, whom corruption and the act of sweeping unpalatable shenanigans under the carpet, is deeply entrenched in their moral fibre
|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by admin2008(m): 12:17pm On Jul 15, 2009|
Good to hear you have been conversing with her and still think she was just naive. To make it not look like we are just taking cheap potshots at the accused, why don't you ask her to prove her innocence to you, by sending you details and paperwork of the first time she claimed she took the car to the port for shipping, and went to collect the refund.
Don't forget there is solid proof of her demanding money a few weeks ago to ship the same car again which is extortion in my own view cos she did not know the Shipper would charge her $1,000 for asking for a refund, and also tell her to supply documents stating that the Shipper said they would not release the car to her because she would have to ship the car with them whether she likes it or not.
And also tell her to give you the Shipper's contact detail so that you could find out from the horses' mouth themselves whether she had ever brought a car for them to ship, whether they set sight on said car, and whether they retained said car in their possession.
I am sure I am not the only one who saw her now modified post yesterday about her on the way to the shipper yesterday, only after a third party called her to play ball, hence the reason for Siena's question, and lastly ask the same Shipper if yesterday was the first time they saw said lady because she is claiming she paid for shipping before, and asked for, and got a refund less their $1,000 administration charge.
Would be waiting dilligently for your answer, and hope you will not let the house and NL down, whilst you conduct your thorough investigation, lest your words be used against you
|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by Nobody: 12:26pm On Jul 15, 2009|
Hmm. This is more serious than I thought.
|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by larez(m): 1:31pm On Jul 15, 2009|
Admin, na wah oh. Let me guess, are you a High Court Judge or Magistrate? Do you feel like she tried to extort instead of asking to be compensated for her time? Yes, I followed the posts, and the aggrieved party has not been back to pursue issues. I find it interesting that you would want to push this further. Do you have a personal interest in this? This is not to criticize you about the need to expose scammers in Nairaland. It is indeed our obligation to do so. My perception here is that there may be some other issues such as a lack of compensation for her time. We should wait for the aggrieved party to come back raising hell before we try to bury her.
|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by larez(m): 4:10pm On Jul 15, 2009|
Although I try to stay out of controversies and make a habit of minding my own business, I have however had reason to delve further into this matter about the car, since I am about to embark on doing business with Coolface. Without having any previous information about the issue, i had guessed that there was more to the story correctly. I can sincerely say that there is no question about her integrity relative to this issue, and as you can see the original instigator has not had anything to add.
In my personal opinion after getting a glimpse into the issue, I honestly feel like she was taken advantage of, and if I had been the one, I would have sold the car and sent the money back. Guys we need not to quickly hang people and sometimes, we should be patient and let things run their paths before we begin to make Judgments. I personally think she has been somewhat victimized, and there are stalkers waiting for situations that they can use to demean her. I have advised her to ignore any further comments as long as the original person who made allegations has nothing more to say.
|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by admin2008(m): 4:18pm On Jul 15, 2009|
Mr Agbejoro, which is what you are doing too I don't owe no rude and obnoxious person any explanation for my posts/action, if anyone feels confident enough to say I am making false accusations, LET THEM COME FORWARD AND REFUTE IT, SIMPLE, BUT I will indulge you this once and say the highlighted in your post above is the reason why I am here, NOW DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, SPEAK NOW OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE
I am glad you can see we are dealing with a straightforward black and white issue here, which is either people are being scammed or she is demanding for compensation for time spent. Questions have been put forward to her, for her to address and clear the air, but no, she'd rather nitpick and deal with irrelevant drivel and keep posting pictures of the castle she is building in the air
People have asked for proof because they feel the accused should be given the benefit of the doubt, and trust me, they will get it, so that Nairalander's can be the judge and the jury in deciding whether she is a cold hearted seasoned scammer or someone who is simply demanding for compensation
One more thing, I can see the accused has adequately done justice to the questions posed to her, so as it seems I am in one in the firing line now, because it is a crime to speak up for justice in Nigeria, ANY MORE QUESTIONS MR AMPLIFIER
|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by admin2008(m): 4:38pm On Jul 15, 2009|
Haha, new twist to the story, I see, so she is actually the victim And I can see how you have managed to restrain yourself from wading into this controversy indeed
No one has judged anyone yet, and anyone is allowed to come and defend themselves, and two months wait and counting, for a thing that usually takes 21 days is in my own opinion, is a tad, wow words fail me
And here you go again telling her to keep mum, despite the fact that the Moderator of this section has made a polite request for you to stop muffling evidence and prevent them from coming out, I just can't help wondering that maybe your relationship with the accused needs to be subjected to further intense scrutiny
And FYI, there ain't just one victim nor one offence, not two, but more, and one of them is around, so if one of the victims wants to camp himself in a state of limbo, fine/tough, justice has to prevail
|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by admin2008(m): 5:07pm On Jul 15, 2009|
@ Mr Amplifier
I learn something new everyday According to you, if I feel aggrieved by someone, it is alright for me as an adult to lie that I have shipped their possession over a month ago, call them to tell them I sabotaged the shipping by cancelling it, then demand money from them extortion again to re-ship the same goods, only for the shipper to refute the whole claim that they are only seeing her for the first time yesterday, which means that she never shipped no car before and resorted to blackmail to get the owner to send more money and would probably never have shipped the car yesterday if not that a third party intervened to warn her of the consequences
I am waiting for your take on this and for your further insightful input, Mr Analyser, I am sure i have a lot more to learn from you and your ilks
I love my country I no go lie No one can beat us for our resourcefulness and ingenuity
|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by larez(m): 5:43pm On Jul 15, 2009|
Now what would I look like wallowing in mud with a person (people) who should have been best left alone in the village where they crawled out from under a rock? Geeze, what calibre of people are there on Nairaland that automatically expect their infantile and guttural shamelessness to be reflected on others?
|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by admin2008(m): 6:02pm On Jul 15, 2009|
Hmmm, double edged sword post Wonder what Mr I am an Architect to the stars, is getting defensive and uptight and spitting out his dummy/pacifier for, if not that what I said is getting too close for comfort, hmmm, I wonder if their hunch was right that he is Mr S himself in the flesh
|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by coolfaced8(f): 7:08pm On Jul 15, 2009|
|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by coolfaced8(f): 7:13pm On Jul 15, 2009|
|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by coolfaced8(f): 7:14pm On Jul 15, 2009|
|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by coolfaced8(f): 7:23pm On Jul 15, 2009|
|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by lawyer(m): 7:31pm On Jul 15, 2009|
Coolface, can you expaniate on this more because i need to get to the bottom of this thing now. Tempers are flaring and people are being hurt and allegations are being made. I would like all parties to respond according and see where we have all erred and provide what ever remedy to alleviate the problem. Nairaland is suppose to be a family and things like this makes me sad and those that have lost valuables have to be compensated and those that have said things in error and malice have to apologize!
So please lets get this thing sorted out!
|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by coolfaced8(f): 7:31pm On Jul 15, 2009|
|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by coolfaced8(f): 7:40pm On Jul 15, 2009|
|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by coolfaced8(f): 7:47pm On Jul 15, 2009|
|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by admin2008(m): 8:03pm On Jul 15, 2009|
[size=14pt]Unknown face ke, I am just following your Idol Mr Larez who has given me and other Nairalanders the go ahead out of his kind heart and said he will not criticize us, about the need to expose scammers in Nairaland. I recall him also mentioning that it is indeed our obligation to do so, so I am just doing my duty as an honourable member of Nairaland so if you have a problem with the right for the truth to usurp lies, I suggest you take it up with your precious Mr Larez
Hmmn, I wonder who asked for long story, maybe like the car that was supposedly shipped last month which is still at sea, we will get the answer sometimes next month, I wouldn't hold my breath Instead of you to redeem yourself or go and cover your face in shame, all you keep on doing is sidestepping issues, if you are sure of yourself, why don't you grab the bull by the horn instead of parambulating and sidestepping the valid accusations levied at you, better redeem yourself before this spreads all over NL or do a dissappearing act like Houdini before shite hit the fan
And go and cash the fact that you know who I am at the bank, it will help your I need $18 to scan the invoice of the one car I shipped last month and yesterday's condition a great deal
Yeah I bet you really regret the relationship that got me connected to you indeed, soooooo much, you were using it to hold the car to ransom and delay shipping it, till you get the go ahead to come and test whether the multivitamins you have been taking had been working, I no fit shout [/size]
|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by Nobody: 8:25pm On Jul 15, 2009|
Me pour venom, Wunmi? LMAO!
I was prepared to leave things be - untill you decided to run me down to Inspired. Both in your lengthy calls, as well as on YIM. I heard it all, some things just have this habit of rearing their ugly heads.
You say I buckled as a man, hence you had second thoughts? Yes, you ended things, then had second thoughts, when you pestered me on the phone, saying we should give things another go? Why would I get burnt twice? And yes, I did say we'd just remain cordial, and friends. I can't remember me saying I'd be your Big Brother! It's more likely to be the other way round - you're older than me. You can be my Big Aunty, I can live with that. But not the other way, and I'll say one thing - I'm really pleased you ended things between us, way before they even started. Do you know how expensive Multivitamins are?
Yes, a married guy should have less time to get into altecations on a public forum, as you've continuosly said. True. But when I'm called out, and slated to your guy, I'll come back, and make all the time. I'm not Inspired, who's method is to pacify you, I'm me - and I'll say what's on my mind. You seem to have more time than me, the married man - despite being a single older woman, with a young child to look after!
So carry on, fight a duel if that's the way you want to go about things, I'm all for it.
|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by admin2008(m): 8:26pm On Jul 15, 2009|
Since they have said they will only reply Siena only, I can safely drop my comment and observation without expecting any more rebuttal, phew, now I can breath
Chei, waste of see Seun Osewa's bandwidth, I don't blame them, since all they do because of their so-called naivety is piggyback their own website to other people's without their permission Oku o m'oye ti won ra ago What do I know eh
And I can't help but wonder why a post this long would not address the accusations that has been levied at her for the past 20 hours and counting, as well as her jawdroppingly stupendous claim that she built Siena's website, hence the reason she is able to carry on with her scamming way with her latest victim
And I don't believe that the same person telling me to grow up and act as a civilised adult would shamefacedly confess on the World Wide Web that she sabotaged Siena's website this April, maybe it was the shock of his marriage to someone else but her that distabilised her and shocked her to the marrow, that allowed her to perpetrate such evil act, oh well, why am I surprised, she was also the same person who claimed she cancelled the shipping of the car and demanded for extra money and kept on lying about the day she shipped the car . . . and I am the childish mischievious one, na real wa oh
|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by Nobody: 8:36pm On Jul 15, 2009|
And just in case you would rather deny you didn't run me down to Inspired, here's a little extract from a YIM conversation, between myself and Inspired himself:
inspired_men (09/07/2009 18:44:52): Hi Siena
Siena Conner (09/07/2009 18:45:15): Hi Emmanuel!
inspired_men (09/07/2009 18:45:40): How are you doing ?
Siena Conner (09/07/2009 18:45:58): Pretty good, thanks. And you?
inspired_men (09/07/2009 18:46:08): Im fine, thanks for asking
inspired_men (09/07/2009 18:46:18): hows your Fiance as well
inspired_men (09/07/2009 18:46:20): ?
Siena Conner (09/07/2009 18:46:28): She's fine, thanks.
inspired_men (09/07/2009 18:46:59): Good to know
inspired_men (09/07/2009 18:47:45): I always knew youre a Level headed, Upstanding Guy but when Wunmi Said Contrary things, I should have got my guards On
Siena Conner (09/07/2009 18:48:35): Emmanuel, it's easy to fall for the wrong person - she's very persuasive, when she wants to be.
inspired_men (09/07/2009 18:49:48): yeah, Same here My friend, I think I goofed when i sent her Some Thousands to Dollars for her to Purchase flight ticket to Nigeria, barely 2 weeks after meeting her
inspired_men (09/07/2009 18:50:29): she has scammed me after then with Bills Upon Bills
inspired_men (09/07/2009 18:51:24): Its So sad.
Siena Conner (09/07/2009 18:51:43): I feel for you, my brother.
inspired_men (09/07/2009 18:52:28): She used the Amex Card as an excuse too, She told me she Paid $1380 for my Website and she needed to pay back in 20 days else she would go bankrupt, The Website is Still not functional till date And I have Paid her
Siena Conner (09/07/2009 18:53:49): It seems she works to a pattern.
inspired_men (09/07/2009 18:57:00): I have lost Over $4000 to her now
Siena Conner (09/07/2009 18:57:22): That's a lot of money.
inspired_men (09/07/2009 18:58:06): though I sent her $22,000 to help me purchase a Vehicle, Which i believe she has Cos she sent me The title papers, But she Held me to ransome cos of the Vehicle Purchase
Siena Conner (09/07/2009 18:58:48): She's a pro. Has she shipped it yet?
Siena Conner (09/07/2009 18:59:03): Bill of laden will prove she shipped it.
inspired_men (09/07/2009 19:00:00): I spoke with the Dealer directly and He Confirmed it
Siena Conner (09/07/2009 19:00:13): So it's been shipped?
inspired_men (09/07/2009 19:01:33): I sen her $1850 last week and she Told me It has been Shipped On Tuesday, she Promised to send me Bill of Lading next week, But she would scan Purchase receipts and title Documents to me in about 30 minutes
Siena Conner (09/07/2009 19:01:39): Confirmation that she made the purchase. But not shipped.
inspired_men (09/07/2009 19:01:43): I think she is emotionally Down
Siena Conner (09/07/2009 19:02:42): Emmanuel, she's tougher than she looks! Do you really believe she's shipped the car?
inspired_men (09/07/2009 19:03:17): I think she has shipped it
inspired_men (09/07/2009 19:03:40): Oh youre right, She has a voice that would want to make you help her
inspired_men (09/07/2009 19:04:30): Exactly
inspired_men (09/07/2009 19:06:24): She plans to come to Nigeria next month, Im just pacifying her till i get the Bill of Lading from her, Once I get that, Im Out
inspired_men (09/07/2009 19:06:34): She Can run a Man Down
Siena Conner (09/07/2009 19:08:14): A desperate woman would do anything, so please, be careful.
inspired_men (09/07/2009 19:08:17): definitely
inspired_men (09/07/2009 19:08:36): Shes not gonna stay with me, Ill be getting my Bill of Lading next week.
inspired_men (09/07/2009 19:08:54): I thought she was a good woman when she offered to open a business account and Build my website
Siena Conner (09/07/2009 19:09:29): Wow! A young woman had you in this way?
inspired_men (09/07/2009 19:11:42): She told me shes 33, but she looks Older
inspired_men (09/07/2009 19:12:06):
Siena Conner (09/07/2009 19:12:18):
inspired_men (09/07/2009 19:12:23): shes Prolly 42 - 45
inspired_men (09/07/2009 19:12:34): LMAO
inspired_men (09/07/2009 19:13:37): I think shes Had a Hard Life, Its Written Over her face, I thought She was a honest & Harmless Person, She told me so many Nasty stuffs about tyou
And you never ran me down to Inspired?
|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by MrCrackles(m): 8:40pm On Jul 15, 2009|
|Re: Fight to Finish: Sienna V Coolface89 by coolfaced8(f): 9:23pm On Jul 15, 2009|
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