Christane:
Am more educated dan u nd ur entire generation nd those dat are yet unborn... Gat it.

ritababe:

no

cecegorz:
I hardly know anything about the history of both kindgoms but this line of argument is very, very, very STRONG!


“That word Oba is indigenous to Benin. It is only in recent times you find everybody bearing Oba. When the Western Regional conference of traditional rulers took place in Benin City in 1942, go and check the attendance, there was no other monarch in the whole of the Western Region then that bore the title of Oba, except the Oba of Benin.

cecegorz:
I hardly know anything about the history of both kindgoms but this line of argument is very, very, very STRONG!

“For instance, the one they call the Oba of Lagos, these are recent adaptations. In the 50s, there was no Oba of Lagos, what we had was the Eleko of Eko. That is the title of the King there. In Ibadan, you have the Olu Ibadan. You come to Abeokuta, you have the Alake of Egba land. You come to Oyo, you have the Alaafin of Oyo. In Ilesha, you have the Owa-Obokun of IIesha. So no Yoruba monarch had as part of his titles the word Oba except the Oba of Benin.

“That word Oba is indigenous to Benin. It is only in recent times you find everybody bearing Oba. When the Western Regional conference of traditional rulers took place in Benin City in 1942, go and check the attendance, there was no other monarch in the whole of the Western Region then that bore the title of Oba, except the Oba of Benin.

ritababe:


there was nothing like yoruba before is only bini, bini created yoruba thats why you see name like eko (benin name) in lagos.

erusen:
,the ooni is trying to claim say Benin is part of Yoruba hierarchy, I have a fair knowledge about the heritage and history of my people, but I think is the Oba of Benin(he is presently not with us,he has gone to the great land of his ancestors) office's that will have to come out and have a final say in this issue,but I do know that eko is a bini language,and that before the 50's there was nothing like oba of Lagos it was called elekko of Lagos,around 1898 or so it was the Europeans that came to the rescue of Yoruba labd being invaded by Oba of Benin,Benin had a much larger empire that was submissive to Oba of Benin until it broke of to many other tribes in the south south today,so this ooni must be looking for a hell lot of trouble with his mouth,we binis are famous for having a short temper oh,even the majority of Bini consider the yorubas here in Edo state as dirty people, I hope I didn't offend any body oh.

iamkneeyi:
your father.

cecegorz:
I hardly know anything about the history of both kindgoms but this line of argument is very, very, very STRONG!

“For instance, the one they call the Oba of Lagos, these are recent adaptations. In the 50s, there was no Oba of Lagos, what we had was the Eleko of Eko. That is the title of the King there. In Ibadan, you have the Olu Ibadan. You come to Abeokuta, you have the Alake of Egba land. You come to Oyo, you have the Alaafin of Oyo. In Ilesha, you have the Owa-Obokun of IIesha. So no Yoruba monarch had as part of his titles the word Oba except the Oba of Benin.

“That word Oba is indigenous to Benin. It is only in recent times you find everybody bearing Oba. When the Western Regional conference of traditional rulers took place in Benin City in 1942, go and check the attendance, there was no other monarch in the whole of the Western Region then that bore the title of Oba, except the Oba of Benin.

ritababe:


na u sabi, all i know be say oduduwa your progenist was a bini prince, and a bini by tribe meaning an edo man create yoruba

RaptorX:
You are also famous for selling your women into sexually slavery in Europe, short temper my foot.

OZAOEKPE:
LIKE THIS 'OWANMBE' KING WAN KPEME, HOW DARE YOU CHALLENGE THE GREAT OBA OF BENIN. THE OBA OF BENIN IS NOT LIKE OTHER OBAS THAT THRIVE ON BRIBES, AND THAT MAKES HIS 'JUJU' SO POTENT THAT EVEN THE ONI OF IFE CAN BE 'GUNNED DOWN' BY THE GREAT OBA OF BENIN.

RaptorX:
You are also famous for selling your women into sexually slavery in Europe, short temper my foot.

adsonstone:


The part in bold is simply a lie.

blazetitov:

“The Ooni of Ife, by historical facts, is a son of the Oba of Benin, so they are not in the same class".

How can the guy from benin be contradicting himself by saying the Ooni of Ife was a son of the Oba of Benin and at the same time saying that the Oba of Benin stool has no relationship with the Yoruba race. I don't get it.

erusen:
do u think we are boastful people like you guys,I hate to be be a tribalist but a dirty tribe who are also known for being cowards,always performing actions with their mouth,haba wentin

Born2Breed:


He should read his history books if his father did not.

uncjay:
This is arrant nonsense, I have always say this that, the yoruba nation is better off without other ethnic groups. It pains me to see some yoruba folks trying to force their race on others. These people have their own mouth, let them decide who to be with or without. There s no point trying to write others history for them. And if historically we have somewhat relationship or related to these, people, well thats past and humans have changed and moved on, on their distinction.

It is ridiculous to say edo, itsekiri, and others are part of yoruba when they don't acknowledge such heresies..in fact, going by language and cultural values, they happened to be completely different from yoruba why then will anyone keep forcing them. To me, it is a dogmatic and primitive system of thought, it is like, these people propel the yoruba essence and without them the yoruba national is worthless..

Please, let the obas distance themselves from any other ethnic group and focus on the rulership of yoruba nation. Well they can contribute to national matters as it affect Us all. Else imaging someone bragging to teach you history, because in his deranged mind, you are unlearn. Imaging the insult. We should stop looking down on ourselves while giving unnecessary advantages to some quak folks to denigrate the uniqueness of yoruba nation and people.

AlPeter:
don't get it twisted EDO IS NOT PART OF YORUBA, It's the other way round YORUBAS ARE PART OF EDO

Lstar4real:
if Edo is not part of yoruba a answer this question

The First King of Benin is eweka son of Oranmiyan

how come first son of oranmiyan became King in Benin if u already have King existing?

Why does is necessary to bury the head of any late Oba of Benin at Ile Ife ?

why is it compulsory to receive the blessing of Ooni before a King is crowned in Benin?

OBAGADAFFI:


Correction

Eweka is not the first Benin king

Eweka is Benin Empire's first 'Oba'

The kings before Eweka use the Ogiso title

adsonstone:


The part in bold is simply a lie.

YoruBadGoon:


Don't mind these Bini fools. Some even said the Oba of Bini will use some voodoo on Ooni of Ife - hysterical. How are you going to use the orishas you borrowed against the original custodian of the orishas? If and when the Ooni visits what's left of the relics of the small ancient kingdom that later became overrated due to fables - the Oba of Bini has to bow down to his progenitor.

Everything about bini was borrowed from Yorubas. They borrowed the Oba dynasty. Borrowed Yoruba orishas. Borrowed knowledge of artworks from Yorubas. Borrowed idea of building moats from Ijebus etc.. They borrowed almost everything, yet they make noise everywhere.

hotwax:


Answer his questions.

e.g

why is it compulsory to receive the blessing of Ooni before a King is crowned in Benin?

bllaster:
Enough of all these.

There is no absolute proof to all this claims.
Benin has their side of the story and Yoruba has thiers. If both of them cannot come to a common agreement then its best for the Ooni gbese of ile ife, Alakara of egbaland and Ajibole of ijebu to keep shut.

As for the Benin MisChief Esogban who replied, that was very harsh. Even if you dont agree with the Oba ranking you cant dispute the fact that there is a link between benin and yoruba.

Yoruba which ever way you look at this controversy it still comes to the point that Oduduwa is not a yoruba man so therefore all the kings ruling your lands are not Yoruba.


[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font] i find this interesting... Does this imply that Yorubas were ruled by Oduduwa (from Saudi Arabia abi where) just like they are being currently ruled by their Hausa-Fulani masters?

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Lstar4real:
Edo are not Yoruba but Benin are part of Yoruba which is the Capital of Edo state..... & The Yorubas in benin are d King.....& the most powerful people in Benin till date.... Everyone came from somewhere we don't know.......but the fact still remain old Ooni of Ife sent his son to be the King in Benin