Problem is the wrong heading giving to this write up. There is a difference between Ebonyi indegenes and Ebonyi vvf centre. (who doesnt know there is a national centre for vvf there where referals are done). Problem here boils down to what I call the Nigerian-palava (both northerners and southerners are guikty of this) where we rush in to laugh over an issue from the other region without bn objrctive abt it.

Thanks, na so I see am

Nusaf:

U may even say that they are in their late 40s to suit ur denial argument, but note that a problem well defined is half solved. Ur problem has been defined, rather than confirming it, sit down there and keep saying it is a lie. Also, just imaging what u are saying, marriage at 6? U mean girls at that age have started ovulation? Find out the difference between betrothed and married.

This is the one thing that annoys me when it comes to Islam.
Your Islamic laws permit for an action then you come out to deny the consequences.
Everyone knows vvf is as a result of child marriage.
Who practice child marriage?
Again everyone knows terrorism is as a result of jihad,
Who practice jihad?

Yet you people will always deny that both vvf and terrorism are related to Islam.

I don't get it. If you know something is wrong why not change it. The laws started one day. It can be changed one day too.
Some Islamic laws and practices need to be changed and history rewritten.

YelloweWest:

What database existed in the days of old? I'm speaking from what many old folks have said repeatedly

And it is hard to believe
Life expectancy was lower then
So why would people not marry until late teens when they did not have to go to school?
I can assure that most great great grand dad would be paedophiles by today's standard

Mcsammy4u:


See this dullard asking me if I understand English. SMH

If u understand English, why did u ask if I could see 3000 girls in the picture even though the phrase 'sample picture' was clearly stated? This is not about insult, it is just the obvious.

BetaThings:


And it is hard to believe
Life expectancy was lower then
So why would people not marry until late teens when they did not have to go to school?
I can assure that most great great grand dad would be paedophiles by today's standard

Life expectancy lower? I disagree!
Our forefathers ate organic food which they mostly produced by them. Everything was fresh because there was no means of presentation for long periods of time. Not now when everything we eat are laced with chemical and toxins.
The problem was then due to lack of formal education most people did not record birth and death dates

BetaThings:


And it is hard to believe
Life expectancy was lower then
So why would people not marry until late teens when they did not have to go to school?
I can assure that most great great grand dad would be paedophiles by today's standard

Life expectancy lower? I disagree!
Our forefathers ate organic food which they mostly produced. Everything was fresh because there was no means of presentation for long periods of time. Not now when everything we eat are laced with chemical and toxins.
The problem was then due to lack of formal education most people did not record birth and death dates

YelloweWest:

This is the one thing that annoys me when it comes to Islam.
Your Islamic laws permit for an action then you come out to deny the consequences.
Everyone knows vvf is as a result of child marriage.
Who practice child marriage?
Again everyone knows terrorism is as a result of jihad,
Who practice jihad?

Yet you people will always deny that both vvf and terrorism are related to Islam.

I don't get it. If you know something is wrong why not change it. The laws started one day. It can be changed one day too.
Some Islamic laws and practices need to be changed and history rewritten.

Rather than digressing, why not address the points?

iamkingzlee:
lol. baibey! wassup?

I'm good. Long time, how've you been?

safarigirl:
Ebonyi has the highest recorded cases. We know that many states in the North simply don't report VVF cases

Better to be in the know than to hide

How do people not record VVF cases in the north

Do you have evidence for this, or you are just not interested in believing contrary to what people think, the South has lots of underage pregnancy either out of wedlock or not?

Nusaf:

The fact that it is rampant in ur region doesn't make it a general case. Yes, unwanted pregnancies do occur in the north, but do u know the use of statistics? I am a northerner and I served in the East where u will see a girl that is barely 13 but had performed at least one abortion. Keep denying ur lifestyle which u are known for, but note that the rulership of falsehood over truth is temporary.

Abokii you lie 13 year old girl in the East are all in School. While in the North lots of them at 13 are out school and are mostly Pregnant.

HammerTheirPapa:
The hausa and fulani region simply don't report their cases. They don't even allow their girls seek medical care. Male physicians are not allowed to examine females. Female physicians are scarce because they won't allow females go to school.

Core north has THE HIGHEST VVF CASES. MANY GO UNREPORTED BECAUSE TO THEM IT IS THE 'WILL OF ALLAH'

Gosh the bigotry is high, I doubt you've ever been to the north.

With all the baby factories in the south, you still live in denial.

Nusaf:

If u understand English, why did u ask if I could see 3000 girls in the picture even though the phrase 'sample picture' was clearly stated? This is not about insult, it is just the obvious.

Still SMH, asking me to identify northerners from the sample picture, if you truly understand English as you claim you should be able to read meaning into my reply.

The OP posted a sample picture and you want me to identify the northerners, yes I will if there is a complete picture of the 3000 said to be victim to the VVF, but being a dullard you don't know the sampled picture was just taken to show few less affected victims, they can't involve the northerners in the picture because they are much affected.

Nusaf:

If u understand English, why did u ask if I could see 3000 girls in the picture even though the phrase 'sample picture' was clearly stated? This is not about insult, it is just the obvious.

Still SMH, asking me to identify northerners from the sample picture, if you truly understand English as you claim you should be able to read meaning into my reply.

The OP posted a sample picture and you want me to identify the northerners, yes I will if there is a complete picture of the 3000 said to be victim to the VVF, but being a dullard you don't know the sampled picture was just taken to show few less affected victims, they can't involve the northerners in the picture because they are much affected.

Ebonyi state is the center for prevention and treatment of VVF and that is why the USAID as decided to lavish a sum of 45million to equip it, when are you going to receive sense?

Still SMH

YelloweWest:

This is the one thing that annoys me when it comes to Islam.
Your Islamic laws permit for an action then you come out to deny the consequences.

And that is what is annoying about commentary about Islam
You have said there something about puberty in the SE
And Islam talks about puberty
So why is puberty quoted proudly in SE but it is a negative when Islam talks about it
Islam does not fix age of marriage
It talks about puberty

YelloweWest:
Everyone knows vvf is as a result of child marriage.

No it is not.
And everyone cannot know what is wrong. Please educate yourself
VVF is the result of obstructed labour which can even lead to death
Yes, early marriage which can lead to early pregnancy is a major factor in VVF

YelloweWest:
Who practice child marriage?

Tell us
What is the age of marriage in the Bible?

YelloweWest:
Again everyone knows terrorism is as a result of jihad,

Looks like YelloweWest is now a synonym for "everyone"
You mean tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka, the Christian LRA in Uganda, the Christian NLFT in India forcing Hindus to become Christians, the Christian IRA the Christian Hutaree were practising Jihad?

YelloweWest:
Who practice jihad?

And who practices Crusade?
And was the Crusade not accompanied by terrorism
Looks like you either are ignorant or you write malicious lies inspite of knowledge
FACT - MORE LIVES HAVE BEEN TAKEN IN THE NAME OF CHRISTIANITY THAN ANY OTHER RELIGION
Even in Iraq, American Soldiers were TERRORISING Muslims in THE NAME OF CHRISTIANITY
Yet you people will always deny that both vvf and terrorism are related to Islam.

Anyway, there are plans in Spain to allow the descendants of Jews who were chased away by Princess Isabella because they would not convert to Christianity to return
[s]http://harpers.org/archive/2009/05/jesus-killed-mohammed/[/s]


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H-btXPfhGs

YelloweWest:
I don't get it.

People like you don't get it
You have listened to one version for too long and don't remember that the truth can be different

YelloweWest:
If you know something is wrong why not change it. The laws started one day. It can be changed one day too.
Some Islamic laws and practices need to be changed and history rewritten.

So when are we going to change the sccorched earth verses in the Bible?

Sissie:


How do people not record VVF cases in the north

Do you have evidence for this, or you are just not interested in believing contrary to what people think, the South has lots of underage pregnancy either out of wedlock or not?

I'm in the North, don't tell me what I know

Most people simply don't go to hospitals here, they hide them indoors and so nobody knows. They don't even visit hospitals.

Like I said, Ebonyi just has the highest known cases, there are thousands still unknown in the North. USAID is working with stats they got from hospitals.

Just like Forbes that says Dangote is Africa's richest when we know the Abacha family's wealth far supercedes his. They only calculate what is recorded

Southern Nigerians are the most bigoted people ever. They hold on to lies about the north to continually make themselves feel better even when the facts stare them in the face.
One very dumb girl was telling me that corpers from the south are responsible for the development in the north. Can you fuuckkking imagine?
Very ignorant folks

winniz:


Abokii you lie 13 year old girl in the East are all in School. While in the North lots of them at 13 are out school and are mostly Pregnant.

You are obviously very ignorant.

How is it possible that they are all in school

Most of the 13yr Olds are home and pregnant, and it's not been declared a national crisis

safarigirl:
I'm in the North, don't tell me what I know

Most people simply don't go to hospitals here, they hide them indoors and so nobody knows. They don't even visit hospitals.

Like I said, Ebonyi just has the highest known cases, there are thousands still unknown in the North. USAID is working with stats they got from hospitals.

Just like Forbes that says Dangote is Africa's richest when we know the Abacha family's wealth far supercedes his. They only calculate what is recorded

you are in the north. What part of the north? People like you are the most dangerous ones. Spreading falsehood. How do you know they hide them indoors? They told you? You visit them? Keep living in denial

YelloweWest:

Life expectancy lower? I disagree!
Our forefathers ate organic food which they mostly produced. Everything was fresh because there was no means of presentation for long periods of time. Not now when everything we eat are laced with chemical and toxins.
The problem was then due to lack of formal education most people did not record birth and death dates

I concede that our forefathers made use of things available then even though they did not have the facilities we now have
But how did our forefathers deal with incompatible rhesus signs between father and mother which led to the death of second and further children which were attributed to witchcraft?
How did they deal with side effect of the herbs? Eg Dongo yaro will cure malaria but has side effects
They did not record dates and cause of deaths
How would they have dealt with Lassa fever, or Ebola
How did they deal with disease outbreak "apart from appeasing the gods"

safarigirl:
I'm in the North, don't tell me what I know

Most people simply don't go to hospitals here, they hide them indoors and so nobody knows. They don't even visit hospitals.

Like I said, Ebonyi just has the highest known cases, there are thousands still unknown in the North. USAID is working with stats they got from hospitals.

Just like Forbes that says Dangote is Africa's richest when we know the Abacha family's wealth far supercedes his. They only calculate what is recorded

Oh you are in one state in the north means you've been to all states and did a survey??

But then what is to be expected from you

Which of the state's are you? When you go to the hospital who do you see? Just Dr's without patients to attend to


Did USAID tell you how they collected the data, or you just assumed??

KevinDein:
Southern Nigerians are the most bigoted people ever. They hold on to lies about the north to continually make themselves feel better even when the facts stare them in the face.
One very dumb girl was telling me that corpers from the south are responsible for the development in the north. Can you fuuckkking imagine?
Very ignorant folks

The level of bigotry is alarming, but then that's what happens when people are intellectually deficient

Sissie:



The level of bigotry is alarming, but then that's what happens when people are intellectually deficient

isn't it just ironic. The people with supposedly the highest literacy levels always exude so much ignorance.

winniz:


I got same report as well that the VVF cases treated there are referred from all over the Country to that VVF centre....that they have specialist Doctors there that carry out the correction Surgeries hence the referral there by dem Naija Doctors. The people treated there are hardly from Ebonyi State.

exactly what i got from a friend in south east.....he said most of the cases where MAINLY from all over the south

KevinDein:
isn't it just ironic. The people with supposedly the highest literacy levels always exude so much ignorance.

Irony

Fadekebisola:

exactly what i got from a friend in south east.....he said most of the cases where MAINLY from all over the south

So VVF is a problem that afflicts people mostly from the North. Right?
and an elected governor decided to build a VVF centre in Ebonyi State
So that he can tell the people who elected him that
"I used your money to solve a problem that does not exist in your state and left yours unsolved"

I get it

Mcsammy4u:


Still SMH, asking me to identify northerners from the sample picture, if you truly understand English as you claim you should be able to read meaning into my reply.

The OP posted a sample picture and you want me to identify the northerners, yes I will if there is a complete picture of the 3000 said to be victim to the VVF, but being a dullard you don't know the sampled picture was just taken to show few less affected victims, they can't involve the northerners in the picture because they are much affected.

Still SMH, asking me to identify northerners from the sample picture, if you truly understand English as you claim you should be able to read meaning into my reply.

The OP posted a sample picture and you want me to identify the northerners, yes I will if there is a complete picture of the 3000 said to be victim to the VVF, but being a dullard you don't know the sampled picture was just taken to show few less affected victims, they can't involve the northerners in the picture because they are much affected.

Ebonyi state is the center for prevention and treatment of VVF and that is why the USAID as decided to lavish a sum of 45million to equip it, when are you going to receive sense?

Still SMH

Ok, u have done ur little findings about the meaning of sample. Now, let me educate u further on that. Whenever a sample is taken, effort is made to include all varieties and where that is not possible, at least the dominant varieties. If the northerners are as dominating as u are trying to say, at least one or two should be in the picture. And insult or any other form of aggression is not a good way of driving home a point. Rather, it displays either wrong upbringing or poverty of idea and logic. I don't trade insult unnecessarily. Cheers...

Fadekebisola:

exactly what i got from a friend in south east.....he said most of the cases where MAINLY from all over the south

Someone that works in USAID said that as well, that people all over the Country are referred to that National VVF centre.

BetaThings:


So VVF is a problem that afflicts people mostly from the North. Right?
and an elected governor decided to build a VVF centre in Ebonyi State
So that he can tell the people who elected him that
"I used your money to solve a problem that does not exist in your state and left yours unsolved"

I get it

LOL, why build the Centre if they had just low VVF cases, they could not use the money to build other types of centers.

lanicky:
This shouldn't be so because early marriages are more common in the Northern part of Nigeria than other regions. Perhaps, it feels like they do because of more reported cases in comparison to other states.

The reason is most likely to be because there is a VVF specialist & referal centre built in Abakiliki that treats patients from all over Nigeria. The major cause of VVF is early marriage & child birth by underage girls which is far more rampart in the Northern states.

MrEverest:
The reason is most likely to be because there is a VVF specialist & referal centre built in Abakiliki that treats patients from all over Nigeria. The major cause of VVF is early marriage & child birth by underage girls which is far more rampart in the Northern states.

So why build the VVF centre in Ebonyi with it low VVF prevalence?
Or is it about tourism? ie the money to be spent on hotels by people who will accompany the patients from other states to the facility

Why not place a facility to deal what the issues most common in Ebonyi (malaria, yellow fever, excessive partying or whatever, no insult intended) in that state and put the VVF facility in "the North"?

For this kind time you still dey lick vagina?

LastMumu:
I'm not surprised. During my service year there, I almost lost my life after licking the _vagina of one Abakaliki chick. One just have to be very careful in this life.

Sissie:



Oh you are in one state in the north means you've been to all states and did a survey??

But then what is to be expected from you

Which of the state's are you? When you go to the hospital who do you see? Just Dr's without patients to attend to


Did USAID tell you how they collected the data, or you just assumed??

aunty, I didn't come online to argue with anybody.

I've said what I know, if e pain you, go knack your head for wall. You must be a Northerner

MrEverest:
The reason is most likely to be because there is a VVF specialist & referal centre built in Abakiliki that treats patients from all over Nigeria. The major cause of VVF is early marriage & child birth by underage girls which is far more rampart in the Northern states.

And under age unwanted pregnancies are not common in the southern states? As some experts have pointed out above, vvf is a result of complications during labour. Are u now comparing access to medical facilities between an accepted underage pregnant lady and the unaccepted one? Attempts are being made to cover up with the lame excuse that the report is a record of cases being treated on referrals from other states. At least states of patients are among the entries in the patients' hospital cards and this 3000 are indigenes of Ebonyi not residents or referred cases.