Islam is a religion of peace $ the only acceptable religion before God whether anybody likes it or not.It is a pure religion given by God to Prophet Muhammad{S.A.W}.Unlikely other religion that were formed by human e.g Judaism,Budhaism,Christainity etc,Islam stood out among all.No matter how this perfect religion is being tarnished with terrorism,suicide bombing or Al-Qaeda,it will continue to grow because it's not a man-made stuff, That's why all muslims are one i.e they pray together,go for Hajj in Mecca in respective of race,colour,social background,financial status,political status be u president,governor or a common man, They come together to form the largest congregation that any other religion can never beat, Perhaps God has said it all in the Quran that He will be the one to take care of His religion which He will continu to do till the last day.No matter the conspiracy by Jews $ Christains to rubbish Islam,Allah himself will continue to defend His religion by Himself, Surely,I seek refuge from devil & his agent, Ma salam

Neptunz:

Islam is a religion of peace $ the only acceptable religion before God whether anybody likes it or not.It is a pure religion given by God to Prophet Muhammad{S.A.W}.Unlikely other religion that were formed by human e.g Judaism,Budhaism,Christainity etc,Islam stood out among all.No matter how this perfect religion is being tarnished with terrorism,suicide bombing or Al-Qaeda,it will continue to grow because it's not a man-made stuff, That's why all muslims are one i.e they pray together,go for Hajj in Mecca in respective of race,colour,social background,financial status,political status be u president,governor or a common man, They come together to form the largest congregation that any other religion can never beat, Perhaps God has said it all in the Quran that He will be the one to take care of His religion which He will continu to do till the last day.No matter the conspiracy by Jews $ Christains to rubbish Islam,Allah himself will continue to defend His religion by Himself, Surely,I seek refuge from devil & his agent, Ma salam

before who? Bible God or allah?

Poster u are Sick for saying that the so called lslam is the only religion before God. What is lslam?

goodguy100:

What is lslam?

The main tenets of Islam can be very appealing,
   a. A call to believe in one God, the God of Abraham, Moses, and Jesus
   b. A call to repentance and submission to the will of God
   c. A call to holy living, involving diligent prayer, fasting,
      charity, and pilgrimage

Yet the early history of Islam and recent events have many people wondering,
   a. Is Islam a religion of peace?
   b. Does Islam allow people to live together in harmony regardless of
      race, class or beliefs?

Most Muslims say they are for living together in peace and harmony,
   a. Especially those living in countries where Muslims are in the
      minority
   b. Yet one might ask, "Is this because of Islam, or in spite of
      Islam?"
   c. Would there be calls for peace and tolerance if Muslims were the
      majority?

i want to know if osama bin laden(s.a.w) was the last prophet of allah i want to know if osama bin laden(s.a.w) was the last prophet of allah

Nezan

The main tenets of Islam can be very appealing,
   a. A call to believe in one God, the God of Abraham, Moses, and Jesus
   b. A call to repentance and submission to the will of God
   c. A call to holy living, involving diligent prayer, fasting,
      charity, and pilgrimage

Abraham, Moses and Jesus were all Jews - so how can they be muslims?

Yet the early history of Islam and recent events have many people wondering,
   a. Is Islam a religion of peace?
   b. Does Islam allow people to live together in harmony regardless of
      race, class or beliefs?

The question should be - was Mohammed a peaceful man? Did he co-exist with others in Arabia peacefully, did his followers fight after his death?

Most Muslims say they are for living together in peace and harmony,
   a. Especially those living in countries where Muslims are in the
      minority
   b. Yet one might ask, "Is this because of Islam, or in spite of
      Islam?"
   c. Would there be calls for peace and tolerance if Muslims were the
      majority?

Good questions, let us give our muslim brothers/sisters chance to answer these questions

alexis: Nezan



Abraham, Moses and Jesus were all Jews - so how can they be muslims?



The question should be - was Mohammed a peaceful man? Did he co-exist with others in Arabia peacefully, did his followers fight after his death?



Good questions, let us give our muslim brothers/sisters chance to answer these questions

Abraham was not a jew. The two nations; jews from isaac and arabs from ishmael originated from him, so there were no jews until the descents of isaac. However, moses and Jesus were muslim prophets sent to the jewish tribe to guide them from idol worship to the path of ALLAH.

As to your question if Muhammad (s a w) was a peaceful man, you may question mahatma ghandi and michael h hart and listen to their answers. Yes he lived with the arabs peacefully. He was fond of organising peace treaties with them, which they always flop off. Wars were only fought when it was the only option.

Nezan:


The main tenets of Islam can be very appealing,
   a. A call to believe in one God, the God of Abraham, Moses, and Jesus
   b. A call to repentance and submission to the will of God
   c. A call to holy living, involving diligent prayer, fasting,
      charity, and pilgrimage

Yet the early history of Islam and recent events have many people wondering,
   a. Is Islam a religion of peace?
   b. Does Islam allow people to live together in harmony regardless of
      race, class or beliefs?

Most Muslims say they are for living together in peace and harmony,
   a. Especially those living in countries where Muslims are in the
      minority
   b. Yet one might ask, "Is this because of Islam, or in spite of
      Islam?"
   c. Would there be calls for peace and tolerance if Muslims were the
      majority?

A. Islam is a religion of peace...yes
B. Of course! Islam allow people to live together regardless of any differences. Read your history, the jewish history witnessed their most prosperous times under islamic rule. The religion teaches building cordial relationship amongst neighbours no matter the difference.
C. Muslims are for living together in peace, regardless their numbers...and that is because the religion teaches it.
D. Read your history very well, during the years of islamic dominance, about what the world looked like!

The thing is, many people judge islam from afar, through hear says and the concpiracy media, without taking the time to look directly into the religion.

Abraham was not a jew. The two nations; jews from isaac and arabs from ishmael originated from him, so there were no jews until the descents of isaac. However, moses and Jesus were muslim prophets sent to the jewish tribe to guide them from idol worship to the path of ALLAH.

Abraham was the first Jew. How can Moses and Jesus be muslims when during their life-time there was no religion called Islam?

As to your question if Muhammad (s a w) was a peaceful man, you may question mahatma ghandi and michael h hart and listen to their answers. Yes he lived with the arabs peacefully. He was fond of organising peace treaties with them, which they always flop off. Wars were only fought when it was the only option

Mohammed was also fond of robbing caravans and killing people. That is not entirely peaceful is it? He personally was involved in 26 battles. Compare his life with that Jesus Christ. Is there a contrast?

According to christians Jesus would be billions of times more violent than any know person in religion history,

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Question: "What does the Bible say about war?"

Answer: Many people make the mistake of reading what the Bible says in Exodus 20:13, “You shall not kill,” and then seeking to apply this command to war. However, the Hebrew word literally means “the intentional, premeditated killing of another person with malice; murder.” God often ordered the Israelites to go to war with other nations (1 Samuel 15:3; Joshua 4:13). God ordered the death penalty for numerous crimes (Exodus 21:12, 15; 22:19; Leviticus 20:11). So, God is not against killing in all circumstances, but only murder. War is never a good thing, but sometimes it is a necessary thing. In a world filled with sinful people (Romans 3:10-18), war is inevitable. Sometimes the only way to keep sinful people from doing great harm to the innocent is by going to war.

In the Old Testament, God ordered the Israelites to “take vengeance on the Midianites for the Israelites” (Numbers 31:2). Deuteronomy 20:16-17 declares, “However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them…as the LORD your God has commanded you.” Also, 1 Samuel 15:18 says, “Go and completely destroy those wicked people, the Amalekites; make war on them until you have wiped them out.” Obviously God is not against all war. Jesus is always in perfect agreement with the Father (John 10:30), so we cannot argue that war was only God’s will in the Old Testament. God does not change (Malachi 3:6; James 1:17).

Jesus’ second coming will be exceedingly violent. Revelation 19:11-21 describes the ultimate war with Christ, the conquering commander who judges and makes war “with justice” (v. 11). It’s going to be bloody (v. 13) and gory. The birds will eat the flesh of all those who oppose Him (v. 17-18). He has no compassion upon His enemies, whom He will conquer completely and consign to a “fiery lake of burning sulfur” (v. 20).

It is an error to say that God never supports a war. Jesus is not a pacifist. In a world filled with evil people, sometimes war is necessary to prevent even greater evil. If Hitler had not been defeated by World War II, how many more millions would have been killed? If the American Civil War had not been fought, how much longer would African-Americans have had to suffer as slaves?

War is a terrible thing. Some wars are more “just” than others, but war is always the result of sin (Romans 3:10-18). At the same time, Ecclesiastes 3:8 declares, “There is…a time to love and a time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace.” In a world filled with sin, hatred, and evil (Romans 3:10-18), war is inevitable. Christians should not desire war, but neither are Christians to oppose the government God has placed in authority over them (Romans 13:1-4; 1 Peter 2:17). The most important thing we can be doing in a time of war is to be praying for godly wisdom for our leaders, praying for the safety of our military, praying for quick resolution to conflicts, and praying for a minimum of casualties among civilians on both sides (Philippians 4:6-7).

http://www.gotquestions.org/war-Bible.html


Furthermore,

Prof. Melancthon W. Jacobus writes in A Standard Bible Dictionary:

[Jesus] excluded from the Messiah’s character the main elements of the popular ideal, i.e. that of a conquering hero, who would exalt Israel above the heathen, and through such exclusion He seemed to fail to realize the older Scriptural conception. The failure, however, was only apparent and temporary. For in the second coming in glory He was to achieve this work. Accordingly, His disciples recognized a twofoldness in His Messiahship: (1) They saw realized in His past life the ideal Servant of Jehovah, the spiritual Messiah, the Christ who teaches and suffers for the people, and (2) they looked forward to the realization of the Davidic and conquering Messiah in His second coming in power and glory to conquer the nations and reign over them.


Comments

The above was posted in the religion section, not a single rebuttal, similar, the issue of Prophet Muhammad, the most successful religious personality in history according to encyclopaedia Britannica, being a violent person has long been dismissed by sane individuals as being nothing more of the making hallow noises that mimics the lies of evangelism by falsehood! Jesus Christ according to Christians would come back to earth to wage war on those who reject him, and to use the words of knowledgeable Christians, be exceedingly violent E.O.D

vedaxcool: According to christians Jesus would be billions of times more violent than any know person in religion history.
The above was posted in the religion section, not a single rebuttal, similar, the issue of Prophet Muhammad, the most successful religious personality in history according to encyclopaedia Britannica, being a violent person has long been dismissed by sane individuals as being nothing more of the making hallow noises that mimics the lies of evangelism by falsehood! Jesus Christ according to Christians would come back to earth to wage war on those who reject him, and to use the words of knowledgeable Christians, be exceedingly violent E.O.D

So Jesus WOULD BE is a case to argue that your prophet robbed and killed people? You could be or would be a potential father but if you don't have a child - you are not.

Please refute other claims independently, you don't need Jesus WOULD BEEING to defend your prophet killing spree. The Quran and Mohammed past should be able to stand on it's own without involving the Bible that you guys are so fondly call "Corrupt".

alexis:

Abraham was the first Jew. How can Moses and Jesus be muslims when during their life-time there was no religion called Islam?



Mohammed was also fond of robbing caravans and killing people. That is not entirely peaceful is it? He personally was involved in 26 battles. Compare his life with that Jesus Christ. Is there a contrast?

I've learnt not to keep arguing with NL christians because what I come to discover their inability to think straight. Listen to yourself calling Abraham the first jew, when you know quite alright that the Arab race was also from him. Won't you call him the first arab? Moses, Jesus, and all other prophets of Allah were muslims. There has been the concept of Islam (total submission to the will of ALLAH) right from Adam and the one message of ALLAH's monotheism, requesting mankind to belive in HIM has been the only message common to them all. And any body who adheres to the message is a MUSLIM.


And I don't understand where you get all your conspiracy stories from. That is the wrath of ALLAH you call upon yourselves if you don't desist. Bring out your references on how and whem Muhammad (s a w) robbed and killed people unjustly.

alexis:

Abraham was the first Jew. How can Moses and Jesus be muslims when during their life-time there was no religion called Islam?



Mohammed was also fond of robbing caravans and killing people. That is not entirely peaceful is it? He personally was involved in 26 battles. Compare his life with that Jesus Christ. Is there a contrast?

I've learnt not to keep arguing with NL christians because what I come to discover their inability to think straight. Listen to yourself calling Abraham the first jew, when you know quite alright that the Arab race was also from him. Won't you call him the first arab? Moses, Jesus, and all other prophets of Allah were muslims. There has been the concept of Islam (total submission to the will of ALLAH) right from Adam and the one message of ALLAH's monotheism, requesting mankind to belive in HIM has been the only message common to them all. And any body who adheres to the message is a MUSLIM.


And I don't understand where you get all your conspiracy stories from. That is the wrath of ALLAH you call upon yourselves if you don't desist. Bring out your references on how and whem Muhammad (s a w) robbed and killed people unjustly.

golpen

I've learnt not to keep arguing with NL christians because what I come to discover their inability to think straight. Listen to yourself calling Abraham the first jew, when you know quite alright that the Arab race was also from him. Won't you call him the first arab? Moses, Jesus, and all other prophets of Allah were muslims. There has been the concept of Islam (total submission to the will of ALLAH) right from Adam and the one message of ALLAH's monotheism, requesting mankind to belive in HIM has been the only message common to them all. And any body who adheres to the message is a MUSLIM.

Mr Man, try not to leave your brain in the dust-pin when it relates to your religion. I said he was the first Jew and not the first Israelite. Abraham was considered the first Jew in that he was the founder of monotheism and the first patriarch of Judaism. Abraham begets Isaac, in turn Jacob, in turn Joseph and the twelve tribes, this brings us directly to the people of Israel and the covenant at Sinai.

By the Arab race coming from Abraham doesn't mean he was Arab (use your Brain Mr Man). The Bible claim he is the father of many nations because of his belief and faith he had in God not because of his his cultural background. By your explanation, he must have been Yoruba, Igbo, Native American or even Chinese. I am talking about his faith not his lineage.

Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, known as the Patriarchs, are both the physical and spiritual ancestors of Judaism. They founded the religion now known as Judaism, and their descendants are the Jewish people. Of course, technically, it is incorrect to refer to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as Jews, because the terms "Jew" and "Judaism" were not used generally to refer to this nation until hundreds of years after their time

And I don't understand where you get all your conspiracy stories from. That is the wrath of ALLAH you call upon yourselves if you don't desist. Bring out your references on how and whem Muhammad (s a w) robbed and killed people unjustly

Are you saying Mohammed wasn't a robber? Or a thief? Allah's wrath affects those who believe in him Bros, I don't . Your Quran and Hadith confirms the battles and raids Mohammed under-took. If you want me to show you, please ask.

alexis: golpen



Mr Man, try not to leave your brain in the dust-pin when it relates to your religion. I said he was the first Jew and not the first Israelite. Abraham was considered the first Jew in that he was the founder of monotheism and the first patriarch of Judaism. Abraham begets Isaac, in turn Jacob, in turn Joseph and the twelve tribes, this brings us directly to the people of Israel and the covenant at Sinai.

By the Arab race coming from Abraham doesn't mean he was Arab (use your Brain Mr Man). The Bible claim he is the father of many nations because of his belief and faith he had in God not because of his his cultural background. By your explanation, he must have been Yoruba, Igbo, Native American or even Chinese. I am talking about his faith not his lineage.

Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, known as the Patriarchs, are both the physical and spiritual ancestors of Judaism. They founded the religion now known as Judaism, and their descendants are the Jewish people. Of course, technically, it is incorrect to refer to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as Jews, because the terms "Jew" and "Judaism" were not used generally to refer to this nation until hundreds of years after their time



Are you saying Mohammed wasn't a robber? Or a thief? Allah's wrath affects those who believe in him Bros, I don't . Your Quran and Hadith confirms the battles and raids Mohammed under-took. If you want me to show you, please ask.

Now can you hear yourself roll in your pool of confusion. You said, "Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, known as the Patriarchs, are both the physical and spiritual ancestors of Judaism. They founded the religion now known as Judaism, and their descendants are the Jewish people. Of course, technically, it is incorrect to refer to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as Jews, because the terms "Jew" and "Judaism" were not used generally to refer to this nation until hundreds of years after their time".

Refuting your own claims by your own self?!!! I think by now you know whose brain is in the dust. I may only help you wipe the virus off your brain like you've helped me by refuting your claims here. You mention isaac and jacob as if that was the only lineage that came from Abraham. Where would you put that lineage of ismaeel?, so saying Abraham was the first jew signifies that you need a doctor. Abraham is just as paternally, spiritually and otherwise attached to the arabs and muslims as to the jews and judaism, so get your thinking straight. And like you have said, if he practised true monotheism which is found in Islam, that makes him a muslim.

Notifying you of HIS wrath should not get you upset. It should rather have you look rationally into your conspiracy stories. I know the Qur'an, so I don't need your ignorant reference.

golpen

Now can you hear yourself roll in your pool of confusion. You said, "Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, known as the Patriarchs, are both the physical and spiritual ancestors of Judaism. They founded the religion now known as Judaism, and their descendants are the Jewish people. Of course, technically, it is incorrect to refer to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as Jews, because the terms "Jew" and "Judaism" were not used generally to refer to this nation until hundreds of years after their time".

Do you have reading difficulty? The "word" Jew didn't exist during their time - I was making that clear. They believed in the same God, they believed in the teaching He gave them, the ordinances etc. Stop poking your eye when you read!

Refuting your own claims by your own self?!!! I think by now you know whose brain is in the dust. I may only help you wipe the virus off your brain like you've helped me by refuting your claims here. You mention isaac and jacob as if that was the only lineage that came from Abraham. Where would you put that lineage of ismaeel?, so saying Abraham was the first jew signifies that you need a doctor. Abraham is just as paternally, spiritually and otherwise attached to the arabs and muslims as to the jews and judaism, so get your thinking straight. And like you have said, if he practised true monotheism which is found in Islam, that makes him a muslim.

In Islam, Mohammed taught you to worship the daughters on Allah, so shut up and swallow your monotheism crap! He later turned around and said Satan deceived him. I wonder how satan can deceive a "true prophet of God". Muslims take a pilgrimage to Mecca every year to kiss a black stone - if that is not idol worship then I don't know what the heck it is. Is Allah in the Kabba? Please tell us the lineage of Ishaeml - show us how he is related to Arabs

Notifying you of HIS wrath should not get you upset. It should rather have you look rationally into your conspiracy stories. I know the Qur'an, so I don't need your ignorant reference

You can be a professor of Islamic studies but you can't hide from history mate. You can know the Quran and recite it back and forth, it doesn't change the fact that your prophet was an armed robber, a murderer and a common thief. It's in your own religious texts.

alexis: golpen



Do you have reading difficulty? The "word" Jew didn't exist during their time - I was making that clear. They believed in the same God, they believed in the teaching He gave them, the ordinances etc. Stop poking your eye when you read!



In Islam, Mohammed taught you to worship the daughters on Allah, so shut up and swallow your monotheism crap! He later turned around and said Satan deceived him. I wonder how satan can deceive a "true prophet of God". Muslims take a pilgrimage to Mecca every year to kiss a black stone - if that is not idol worship then I don't know what the heck it is. Is Allah in the Kabba? Please tell us the lineage of Ishaeml - show us how he is related to Arabs



You can be a professor of Islamic studies but you can't hide from history mate. You can know the Quran and recite it back and forth, it doesn't change the fact that your prophet was an armed robber, a murderer and a common thief. It's in your own religious texts.

Seriously I won't engage you in any more dialogue after this. You seem like a typical NL christian, preparing his mind not to understand clear proofs. When you say someone is the father of the jewish and arab race. What makes him the first jew, also makes him the first arab!!! Saying he is the first jew a a blunder. Saying he is the father of jews is more acceptable, which also makes him father of arabs.

More reason why I won't like to argue with you any longer is you asking me to show you the lineage of ishmael. It shows you don't even know your bible, because it is in the bible right before your nose, but as I have promise to help you get off the virus off your head, you may want to check this page http://lavistachurchofchrist.org/LVanswers/2005/03-17.htm

Replying you again after this would only waste my time. I'll just advice you to go think straight and get off all these you stories off your mind, then you watch how sweet your dreams shall be when you sleep with a light heart.

alexis: golpen



Do you have reading difficulty? The "word" Jew didn't exist during their time - I was making that clear. They believed in the same God, they believed in the teaching He gave them, the ordinances etc. Stop poking your eye when you read!



In Islam, Mohammed taught you to worship the daughters on Allah, so shut up and swallow your monotheism crap! He later turned around and said Satan deceived him. I wonder how satan can deceive a "true prophet of God". Muslims take a pilgrimage to Mecca every year to kiss a black stone - if that is not idol worship then I don't know what the heck it is. Is Allah in the Kabba? Please tell us the lineage of Ishaeml - show us how he is related to Arabs



You can be a professor of Islamic studies but you can't hide from history mate. You can know the Quran and recite it back and forth, it doesn't change the fact that your prophet was an armed robber, a murderer and a common thief. It's in your own religious texts.

Seriously I won't engage you in any more dialogue after this. You seem like a typical NL christian, preparing his mind not to understand clear proofs. When you say someone is the father of the jewish and arab race. What makes him the first jew, also makes him the first arab!!! Saying he is the first jew a a blunder. Saying he is the father of jews is more acceptable, which also makes him father of arabs.

More reason why I won't like to argue with you any longer is you asking me to show you the lineage of ishmael. It shows you don't even know your bible, because it is in the bible right before your nose, but as I have promise to help you get off the virus off your head, you may want to check this page http://lavistachurchofchrist.org/LVanswers/2005/03-17.htm

Replying you again after this would only waste my time. I'll just advice you to go think straight and get off all these you stories off your mind, then you watch how sweet your dreams shall be when you sleep with a light heart.

alexis: golpen



Do you have reading difficulty? The "word" Jew didn't exist during their time - I was making that clear. They believed in the same God, they believed in the teaching He gave them, the ordinances etc. Stop poking your eye when you read!



In Islam, Mohammed taught you to worship the daughters on Allah, so shut up and swallow your monotheism crap! He later turned around and said Satan deceived him. I wonder how satan can deceive a "true prophet of God". Muslims take a pilgrimage to Mecca every year to kiss a black stone - if that is not idol worship then I don't know what the heck it is. Is Allah in the Kabba? Please tell us the lineage of Ishaeml - show us how he is related to Arabs



You can be a professor of Islamic studies but you can't hide from history mate. You can know the Quran and recite it back and forth, it doesn't change the fact that your prophet was an armed robber, a murderer and a common thief. It's in your own religious texts.

Seriously I won't engage you in any more dialogue after this. You seem like a typical NL christian, preparing his mind not to understand clear proofs. When you say someone is the father of the jewish and arab race. What makes him the first jew, also makes him the first arab!!! Saying he is the first jew a a blunder. Saying he is the father of jews is more acceptable, which also makes him father of arabs.

More reason why I won't like to argue with you any longer is you asking me to show you the lineage of ishmael. It shows you don't even know your bible, because it is in the bible right before your nose, but as I have promise to help you get off the virus off your head, you may want to check this page http://lavistachurchofchrist.org/LVanswers/2005/03-17.htm

Replying you again after this would only waste my time. I'll just advice you to go think straight and get off all these you stories off your mind, then you watch how sweet your dreams shall be when you sleep with a light heart.

alexis: golpen



Do you have reading difficulty? The "word" Jew didn't exist during their time - I was making that clear. They believed in the same God, they believed in the teaching He gave them, the ordinances etc. Stop poking your eye when you read!



In Islam, Mohammed taught you to worship the daughters on Allah, so shut up and swallow your monotheism crap! He later turned around and said Satan deceived him. I wonder how satan can deceive a "true prophet of God". Muslims take a pilgrimage to Mecca every year to kiss a black stone - if that is not idol worship then I don't know what the heck it is. Is Allah in the Kabba? Please tell us the lineage of Ishaeml - show us how he is related to Arabs



You can be a professor of Islamic studies but you can't hide from history mate. You can know the Quran and recite it back and forth, it doesn't change the fact that your prophet was an armed robber, a murderer and a common thief. It's in your own religious texts.

Seriously I won't engage you in any more dialogue after this. You seem like a typical NL christian, preparing his mind not to understand clear proofs. When you say someone is the father of the jewish and arab race. What makes him the first jew, also makes him the first arab!!! Saying he is the first jew a a blunder. Saying he is the father of jews is more acceptable, which also makes him father of arabs.

More reason why I won't like to argue with you any longer is you asking me to show you the lineage of ishmael. It shows you don't even know your bible, because it is in the bible right before your nose, but as I have promise to help you get off the virus off your head, you may want to check this page http://lavistachurchofchrist.org/LVanswers/2005/03-17.htm

Replying you again after this would only waste my time. I'll just advice you to go think straight and get off all these you stories off your mind, then you watch how sweet your dreams shall be when you sleep with a light heart.

alexis: golpen



Do you have reading difficulty? The "word" Jew didn't exist during their time - I was making that clear. They believed in the same God, they believed in the teaching He gave them, the ordinances etc. Stop poking your eye when you read!



In Islam, Mohammed taught you to worship the daughters on Allah, so shut up and swallow your monotheism crap! He later turned around and said Satan deceived him. I wonder how satan can deceive a "true prophet of God". Muslims take a pilgrimage to Mecca every year to kiss a black stone - if that is not idol worship then I don't know what the heck it is. Is Allah in the Kabba? Please tell us the lineage of Ishaeml - show us how he is related to Arabs



You can be a professor of Islamic studies but you can't hide from history mate. You can know the Quran and recite it back and forth, it doesn't change the fact that your prophet was an armed robber, a murderer and a common thief. It's in your own religious texts.

Seriously I won't engage you in any more dialogue after this. You seem like a typical NL christian, preparing his mind not to understand clear proofs. When you say someone is the father of the jewish and arab race. What makes him the first jew, also makes him the first arab!!! Saying he is the first jew a a blunder. Saying he is the father of jews is more acceptable, which also makes him father of arabs.

More reason why I won't like to argue with you any longer is you asking me to show you the lineage of ishmael. It shows you don't even know your bible, because it is in the bible right before your nose, but as I have promise to help you get off the virus off your head, you may want to check this page http://lavistachurchofchrist.org/LVanswers/2005/03-17.htm

Replying you again after this would only waste my time. I'll just advice you to go think straight and get off all these you stories off your mind, then you watch how sweet your dreams shall be when you sleep with a light heart.

alexis: golpen



Do you have reading difficulty? The "word" Jew didn't exist during their time - I was making that clear. They believed in the same God, they believed in the teaching He gave them, the ordinances etc. Stop poking your eye when you read!



In Islam, Mohammed taught you to worship the daughters on Allah, so shut up and swallow your monotheism crap! He later turned around and said Satan deceived him. I wonder how satan can deceive a "true prophet of God". Muslims take a pilgrimage to Mecca every year to kiss a black stone - if that is not idol worship then I don't know what the heck it is. Is Allah in the Kabba? Please tell us the lineage of Ishaeml - show us how he is related to Arabs



You can be a professor of Islamic studies but you can't hide from history mate. You can know the Quran and recite it back and forth, it doesn't change the fact that your prophet was an armed robber, a murderer and a common thief. It's in your own religious texts.

Seriously I won't engage you in any more dialogue after this. You seem like a typical NL christian, preparing his mind not to understand clear proofs. When you say someone is the father of the jewish and arab race. What makes him the first jew, also makes him the first arab!!! Saying he is the first jew a a blunder. Saying he is the father of jews is more acceptable, which also makes him father of arabs.

More reason why I won't like to argue with you any longer is you asking me to show you the lineage of ishmael. It shows you don't even know your bible, because it is in the bible right before your nose, but as I have promise to help you get off the virus off your head, you may want to check this page http://lavistachurchofchrist.org/LVanswers/2005/03-17.htm

Replying you again after this would only waste my time. I'll just advice you to go think straight and get off all these you stories off your mind, then you watch how sweet your dreams shall be when you sleep with a light heart.

alexis: golpen



Do you have reading difficulty? The "word" Jew didn't exist during their time - I was making that clear. They believed in the same God, they believed in the teaching He gave them, the ordinances etc. Stop poking your eye when you read!



In Islam, Mohammed taught you to worship the daughters on Allah, so shut up and swallow your monotheism crap! He later turned around and said Satan deceived him. I wonder how satan can deceive a "true prophet of God". Muslims take a pilgrimage to Mecca every year to kiss a black stone - if that is not idol worship then I don't know what the heck it is. Is Allah in the Kabba? Please tell us the lineage of Ishaeml - show us how he is related to Arabs



You can be a professor of Islamic studies but you can't hide from history mate. You can know the Quran and recite it back and forth, it doesn't change the fact that your prophet was an armed robber, a murderer and a common thief. It's in your own religious texts.

Seriously I won't engage you in any more dialogue after this. You seem like a typical NL christian, preparing his mind not to understand clear proofs. When you say someone is the father of the jewish and arab race. What makes him the first jew, also makes him the first arab!!! Saying he is the first jew a a blunder. Saying he is the father of jews is more acceptable, which also makes him father of arabs.

More reason why I won't like to argue with you any longer is you asking me to show you the lineage of ishmael. It shows you don't even know your bible, because it is in the bible right before your nose, but as I have promise to help you get off the virus off your head, you may want to check this page http://lavistachurchofchrist.org/LVanswers/2005/03-17.htm

Replying you again after this would only waste my time. I'll just advice you to go think straight and get off all these you stories off your mind, then you watch how sweet your dreams shall be when you sleep with a light heart.

alexis: golpen



Do you have reading difficulty? The "word" Jew didn't exist during their time - I was making that clear. They believed in the same God, they believed in the teaching He gave them, the ordinances etc. Stop poking your eye when you read!



In Islam, Mohammed taught you to worship the daughters on Allah, so shut up and swallow your monotheism crap! He later turned around and said Satan deceived him. I wonder how satan can deceive a "true prophet of God". Muslims take a pilgrimage to Mecca every year to kiss a black stone - if that is not idol worship then I don't know what the heck it is. Is Allah in the Kabba? Please tell us the lineage of Ishaeml - show us how he is related to Arabs



You can be a professor of Islamic studies but you can't hide from history mate. You can know the Quran and recite it back and forth, it doesn't change the fact that your prophet was an armed robber, a murderer and a common thief. It's in your own religious texts.

Seriously I won't engage you in any more dialogue after this. You seem like a typical NL christian, preparing his mind not to understand clear proofs. When you say someone is the father of the jewish and arab race. What makes him the first jew, also makes him the first arab!!! Saying he is the first jew a a blunder. Saying he is the father of jews is more acceptable, which also makes him father of arabs.

More reason why I won't like to argue with you any longer is you asking me to show you the lineage of ishmael. It shows you don't even know your bible, because it is in the bible right before your nose, but as I have promise to help you get off the virus off your head, you may want to check this page http://lavistachurchofchrist.org/LVanswers/2005/03-17.htm

Replying you again after this would only waste my time. I'll just advice you to go think straight and get off all these you stories off your mind, then you watch how sweet your dreams shall be when you sleep with a light heart.

alexis: golpen



Do you have reading difficulty? The "word" Jew didn't exist during their time - I was making that clear. They believed in the same God, they believed in the teaching He gave them, the ordinances etc. Stop poking your eye when you read!



In Islam, Mohammed taught you to worship the daughters on Allah, so shut up and swallow your monotheism crap! He later turned around and said Satan deceived him. I wonder how satan can deceive a "true prophet of God". Muslims take a pilgrimage to Mecca every year to kiss a black stone - if that is not idol worship then I don't know what the heck it is. Is Allah in the Kabba? Please tell us the lineage of Ishaeml - show us how he is related to Arabs



You can be a professor of Islamic studies but you can't hide from history mate. You can know the Quran and recite it back and forth, it doesn't change the fact that your prophet was an armed robber, a murderer and a common thief. It's in your own religious texts.

Seriously I won't engage you in any more dialogue after this. You seem like a typical NL christian, preparing his mind not to understand clear proofs. When you say someone is the father of the jewish and arab race. What makes him the first jew, also makes him the first arab!!! Saying he is the first jew a a blunder. Saying he is the father of jews is more acceptable, which also makes him father of arabs.

More reason why I won't like to argue with you any longer is you asking me to show you the lineage of ishmael. It shows you don't even know your bible, because it is in the bible right before your nose, but as I have promise to help you get off the virus off your head, you may want to check this page http://lavistachurchofchrist.org/LVanswers/2005/03-17.htm

Replying you again after this would only waste my time. I'll just advice you to go think straight and get off all these you stories off your mind, then you watch how sweet your dreams shall be when you sleep with a light heart.

alexis: golpen



Do you have reading difficulty? The "word" Jew didn't exist during their time - I was making that clear. They believed in the same God, they believed in the teaching He gave them, the ordinances etc. Stop poking your eye when you read!



In Islam, Mohammed taught you to worship the daughters on Allah, so shut up and swallow your monotheism crap! He later turned around and said Satan deceived him. I wonder how satan can deceive a "true prophet of God". Muslims take a pilgrimage to Mecca every year to kiss a black stone - if that is not idol worship then I don't know what the heck it is. Is Allah in the Kabba? Please tell us the lineage of Ishaeml - show us how he is related to Arabs



You can be a professor of Islamic studies but you can't hide from history mate. You can know the Quran and recite it back and forth, it doesn't change the fact that your prophet was an armed robber, a murderer and a common thief. It's in your own religious texts.

Seriously I won't engage you in any more dialogue after this. You seem like a typical NL christian, preparing his mind not to understand clear proofs. When you say someone is the father of the jewish and arab race. What makes him the first jew, also makes him the first arab!!! Saying he is the first jew a a blunder. Saying he is the father of jews is more acceptable, which also makes him father of arabs.

More reason why I won't like to argue with you any longer is you asking me to show you the lineage of ishmael. It shows you don't even know your bible, because it is in the bible right before your nose, but as I have promise to help you get off the virus off your head, you may want to check this page http://lavistachurchofchrist.org/LVanswers/2005/03-17.htm

Replying you again after this would only waste my time. I'll just advice you to go think straight and get off all these you stories off your mind, then you watch how sweet your dreams shall be when you sleep with a light heart.

golpen

Seriously I won't engage you in any more dialogue after this. You seem like a typical NL christian, preparing his mind not to understand clear proofs. When you say someone is the father of the jewish and arab race. What makes him the first jew, also makes him the first arab!!! Saying he is the first jew a a blunder. Saying he is the father of jews is more acceptable, which also makes him father of arabs.

I explained to you why he was the first Jew, you are yet to explain how he is the first Arab. The descendants of Ishmael doesn't make Abraham an Arab. I gave you a simple analogy. Are the Yorubas, Igbos, Chinese, Japanese to claim lineage to Abraham as well?

More reason why I won't like to argue with you any longer is you asking me to show you the lineage of ishmael. It shows you don't even know your bible, because it is in the bible right before your nose, but as I have promise to help you get off the virus off your head, you may want to check this page http://lavistachurchofchrist.org/LVanswers/2005/03-17.htm

I honestly think you have a reading comprehension problem. Here was my question - Please tell us the lineage of Ishaeml - [size=15pt]show us how he is related to Arabs[/size]. I will ask you again, please show me in the Bible where it shows the lineage of Ishmael to arabs. I never claimed Ishmael wasn't related to Abraham or wasn't his son. If you take time and read, perhaps you would be able to answer the original question

Replying you again after this would only waste my time. I'll just advice you to go think straight and get off all these you stories off your mind, then you watch how sweet your dreams shall be when you sleep with a light heart

Prof - I suggest you take the back seat and keep quiet. You think because you are a muslim then you are automatically an authority on Islam.

alexis: golpen



Do you have reading difficulty? The "word" Jew didn't exist during their time - I was making that clear. They believed in the same God, they believed in the teaching He gave them, the ordinances etc. Stop poking your eye when you read!



In Islam, Mohammed taught you to worship the daughters on Allah, so shut up and swallow your monotheism crap! He later turned around and said Satan deceived him. I wonder how satan can deceive a "true prophet of God". Muslims take a pilgrimage to Mecca every year to kiss a black stone - if that is not idol worship then I don't know what the heck it is. Is Allah in the Kabba? Please tell us the lineage of Ishaeml - show us how he is related to Arabs



You can be a professor of Islamic studies but you can't hide from history mate. You can know the Quran and recite it back and forth, it doesn't change the fact that your prophet was an armed robber, a murderer and a common thief. It's in your own religious texts.

Seriously I won't engage you in any more dialogue after this. You seem like a typical NL christian, preparing his mind not to understand clear proofs. When you say someone is the father of the jewish and arab race. What makes him the first jew, also makes him the first arab!!! Saying he is the first jew a a blunder. Saying he is the father of jews is more acceptable, which also makes him father of arabs.

More reason why I won't like to argue with you any longer is you asking me to show you the lineage of ishmael. It shows you don't even know your bible, because it is in the bible right before your nose, but as I have promise to help you get off the virus off your head, you may want to check this page http://lavistachurchofchrist.org/LVanswers/2005/03-17.htm

Replying you again after this would only waste my time. I'll just advice you to go think straight and get off all these you stories off your mind, then you watch how sweet your dreams shall be when you sleep with a light heart.

golpen

Seriously I won't engage you in any more dialogue after this. You seem like a typical NL christian, preparing his mind not to understand clear proofs. When you say someone is the father of the jewish and arab race. What makes him the first jew, also makes him the first arab!!! Saying he is the first jew a a blunder. Saying he is the father of jews is more acceptable, which also makes him father of arabs.

I explained to you why he was the first Jew, you are yet to explain how he is the first Arab. The descendants of Ishmael doesn't make Abraham an Arab. I gave you a simple analogy. Are the Yorubas, Igbos, Chinese, Japanese to claim lineage to Abraham as well?

More reason why I won't like to argue with you any longer is you asking me to show you the lineage of ishmael. It shows you don't even know your bible, because it is in the bible right before your nose, but as I have promise to help you get off the virus off your head, you may want to check this page http://lavistachurchofchrist.org/LVanswers/2005/03-17.htm

I honestly think you have a reading comprehension problem. Here was my question - Please tell us the lineage of Ishaeml - [size=15pt]show us how he is related to Arabs[/size]. I will ask you again, please show me in the Bible where it shows the lineage of Ishmael to arabs. I never claimed Ishmael wasn't related to Abraham or wasn't his son. If you take time and read, perhaps you would be able to answer the original question

Replying you again after this would only waste my time. I'll just advice you to go think straight and get off all these you stories off your mind, then you watch how sweet your dreams shall be when you sleep with a light heart

Prof - I suggest you take the back seat and keep quiet. You think because you are a muslim then you are automatically an authority on Islam.

In all honesty, Islam is the religion of Muhammad's forefathers - The Jinn Religion.

Allah is worshiped the same way they were worshiping Jinns in Muhammad's family before he was born, that is before Islam.

This is the reason the Devil deceives muslims that there are two types of Jinns - the good and the bad jinns. This is simply a spiritual manipulation.

Muslims consult the so-called good jinns through charms (hontu tira etc).

There are no good jinns anywhere, they are simply demons, the fallen angels.

cleanvessel:

Muslims consult the so-called good jinns through charms (hontu tira etc).

Christians do this.i
but the Messenger of God, Muhammad (pbuh) has expressly forbidden it.

F00028:
Christians do this.i
but the Messenger of God, Muhammad (pbuh) has expressly forbidden it.

I would not blame you. A man suffering from hypnotism cannot know he has a problem.

I once told you that muslims worship allah the same way Jinns were worshiped in Muhammad's family and gave you proofs. But for spiritual manipulation and hypnotism those proofs didn't matter to you.

I pray you will not die in deception.