rottennaija:
In Nigeria, stealing and corruption is one and the same thing. Both is working against public interest and must be stopped by all means necessary.

Stealing is now corruption... PMB




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Why is it that every single topic that may make front page is filled by those that either they cannot offer any sensible comment or just comment to tongue lash this administration? It seems to be the latest tactic of PDP and wailers [/size]

I guess icpc should go and catch petty thief's too for corruption... miumiu

Everything is twisted on nairaland even the heading of the post

So now, Nigerian have come to realize that stealing is not corruption. Maybe PMB body odour and hardship just made us realize that.
God bless GEJ!!

people no sabi read
this statement was made in 2014 to support gej's motion, make he come make such again today if he is still icpc boss if he won't be shown the door to tell the difference.
most of what our politicians do is to steal what we put in their care, so why then do we call them corrupt?
some people sha, anyway, stealing is now corruption and no matter how much Nwobodo stole, we will send him to the cage.

rhosymedre:
"Stealing" can be different from corruption.

Consider these Scenarios

1. A government official is driving on the road with his convoy and escorts; with their sirens and unruly nature, they bully other road users out of the way and even damage their vehicles.

That IS CORRUPTION even though it is not stealing!


2. A government official dips into his department's budget and diverts one billion naira to his own account.

That is STEALING; it should not be dignified with the nicer word "corruption" - (though technically, it can also be called corruption).


3. A clerk in a government office demands egunje/gratuity/'PR' of 2000 naira before releasing a form to a member of the public who needs it.

That IS corruption --- but not quite stealing.


4. A person goes to an airport or government office; he offers a 'gift' or really bribe of 5,000 naira to officials so that he can do/get something he is not lawfully entitled to.

That is CORRUPTION ---- even though it is not stealing.


5. A male university lecturer pressurises a female student into sexual relationship with the threat of failing her.

That is CORRUPTION ---- though it is not stealing.


6. A student offers a gift or bribe to a lecturer ---- so as to get better marks or even exam questions.

That is CORRUPTION even though it is not stealing.


7. A state governor collects security vote from federal allocation and diverts it into his own account for personal use.

That is STEALING and is really only dignified by the word "corruption"; the governor is a thief or "stealer" not merely corrupt.


So you see, when understood properly, the statement that "ordinary stealing, they are calling it corruption" is actually correct!

Your head dey there!!!

pmc01:
You still do not get the point. It is not in the place of the President to make such distinction. What was the need anyway? You know how Nigerians love to excuse wrongdoings and he still provides them a good cover to 'steal' because it is different from 'corruption'. Who doesn't know how to search the dictionary for the meaning of the words?

Twist-ter!

Goke7:


Don't be surprised, pdp is only trying to save its battered image by tongue-lashing the present FG and also trying to launder the ugly image of Jonathan, hence the reason for a thread like this. Don't expect anything good comment about PMB from pdp fans even if he tars the entire road in the south east. Their strategy is play dirty and try to get back into aso rock by 2019 or else pdp will be awaiting final burial by then.

After all, Nta the ICPC Chairman was Gej's boy and appointed by him. Who knows the game he is playing by concurring with his former boss. Corruption is the generic name of any deviation from normal norm and stealing is a specific name of taking what does not belong to you. Therefore, stealing is a deviation from normal norm i.e. stealing is an abnormal behavior, so stealing is corruption.[color=#000099][/color]

No wonder this ICPC has been a shadow of itself, since it's inception, I am happy FG has set up a team to probe both EFCC nd ICPC, MR ICPC boss, what term would u give to a man that tkes money meant for buying arms for our military, shares the money to his best friends n lavishes the money...stealing or corruption??

Pidggin:
This very statement was used to ridicule GEJ, but at last! He has been justified

He is justified may be in the opinion of his supporters like you. According to Wikipedia - "Corruption is a form of dishonest or unethical conduct by a person entrusted with a position of authority, often to acquire personal benefit.[1] Corruption may include many activities including bribery and embezzlement, though it may also involve practices that are legal in many countries.[2] Government, or 'political', corruption occurs when an office-holder or other governmental employee acts in an official capacity for personal gain".

I think you can see the word 'embezzlement' in the definition which could be well regarded as stealing of public fund? Wise up please.

chernest2002:
In my opinion, i think the ICPC man was saying that those who stole should be either taken to police for extrajudicial killing or mob action like the way we deal with pick pockets, including you who steal in examination, your shops, doctors in all hospitals, prostitutes, you that hikeFares. Just in Buhari's voice all Nigerians are criminals including himself and should either be send to jail or burn alive, except me and my family.

Abeg how do u stealing in an examination?? Is it by running away with the answer booklet or something?

NobleAngell:
Well I think I kindaf agree with him that they differ. But stealing is a corrupt practice.

stealing is a criminal offence.
if a child steals meat in the pot of soup, will u say he is corrupt? wont u call him a thief!
corruption is a crime, stealing is a crime so in otherwords stealing can never be corruption, period. both r crimes n shud be treated differently.
if somoene steals u call d police on him, but incase of corruption going to police is like fetching water with a basket.

NobleAngell:
Well I think I kindaf agree with him that they differ. But stealing is a corrupt practice.

stealing is a criminal offence.
if a child steals meat in the pot of soup, will u say he is corrupt? wont u call him a thief!
corruption is a crime, stealing is a crime so in otherwords stealing can never be corruption, period. both r crimes n shud be treated differently.
if somoene steals u call d police on him, but incase of corruption going to police is like fetching water with a basket.


am not just making common sense but A WHOLE LOTTA SENSE,

onyi4edu:


We are on same page my brother, the dubious ones just carved out this statement from his speech to make it look like he is supporting one and condemning the other.

You are blessed. I told Zombies then to go back to school if they can not differetiate the two words. God bless our hero of democracy.

pedrilo:
enrichment is not the same as stealing. Haba!

Can you point out where i said stealing is the same as illicit enrichment?

koboko69:


Lol...

This was GEJ's exact statement.

Ordinary stealing they call it corruption. But the Jonathanians have successfully removed the ordinary there.

U can keeo deceiving ursef.

Ordinary death na still death.
Ordinary rape na still rape.
You can't compare saraki corruption case with sepp blatters corruption case. Saraki na thief sepp blatter na corrupt fellow.

Abba Moro na thief the cbn recruitment na corruption.

Stealing is not corruption, the process made them different but when the last president mentioned it the media, APC and their supporters key in and how it for election purposes.

rottennaija:
In Nigeria, stealing and corruption is one and the same thing. Both is working against public interest and must be stopped by all means necessary.

Stealing is now corruption... PMB




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Why is it that every single topic that may make front page is filled by those that either they cannot offer any sensible comment or just comment to tongue lash this administration? It seems to be the latest tactic of PDP and wailers [/size]

hw will pmb differentiate btw the 2 when he is steal battling with his waec result?

And with each passing day GEJ is being justified...

In the article, where exactly did he say corruption is not stealing?

Nbote:
And with each passing day GEJ is being justified...

with looted funds, right?

AZeD1:

What about the second part enrichment? Is the word just there for decoration?

Explaining what he calls constitutes corruption, the ICPC chairman said: “If I walk into your office and I say that I have been sent by the president that this contract you are about to award must be awarded to me and now drop his card or the president’s card on the table. This is also an offence under corrupt practice.”


Read and understand, is this not a clear illustration of illicit enrichment?

MIM77:


After all, Nta the ICPC Chairman was Gej's boy and appointed by him. Who knows the game he is playing by concurring with his former boss. Corruption is the generic name of any deviation from normal norm and stealing is a specific name of taking what does not belong to you. Therefore, stealing is a deviation from normal norm i.e. stealing is an abnormal behavior, so stealing is corruption.[color=#000099][/color]

they just think we no sabi english, no matter how hard they try, GEJ gave himself away as the most corrupt Nigerian President with that statement, he should be behind bars if not for political diplomacy

dlox147:

He listed what is considered as corruption under Article 19 of UNCAC and Section 19 of the ICPC Act as: illicit enrichment , trading in influence etc.


http://thenationonlineng.net/corruption-different-stealing-icpc-boss/#top

Does stealing not fall under illicit enrichment too.

Goke7:


Don't be surprised, pdp is only trying to save its battered image by tongue-lashing the present FG and also trying to launder the ugly image of Jonathan, hence the reason for a thread like this. Don't expect anything good comment about PMB from pdp fans even if he tars the entire road in the south east. Their strategy is play dirty and try to get back into aso rock by 2019 or else pdp will be awaiting final burial by then.

Fools everywhere.
I believe apc members buy a congo of rice at 250 naira as before, they exchange naira at 168 as it was, they buy a satchet of water at 5 naira as before etc? Why dont you people keep quiet and tell bubu to resign if he cannot rule nigeria?

OlujobaSamuel:
people no sabi read
this statement was made in 2014 to support gej's motion, make he come make such again today if he is still icpc boss if he won't be shown the door to tell the difference.
most of what our politicians do is to steal what we put in their care, so why then do we call them corrupt?
some people sha, anyway, stealing is now corruption and no matter how much Nwobodo stole, we will send him to the cage.

that nwobodo story was another blockbuster from GEJ

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Goke7:


they just think we no sabi english, no matter how hard they try, GEJ gave himself away as the most corrupt Nigerian President with that statement, he should be behind bars if not for political diplomacy

olutunde12:


Fools everywhere.
I believe apc members buy a congo of rice at 250 naira as before, they exchange naira at 168 as it was, they buy a satchet of water at 5 naira as before etc? Why dont you people keep quiet and tell bubu to resign if he cannot rule nigeria?

bubu shall be your president till his tenure elapse unless you and your pdp goons are planning the unthinkable, tell your thieving heroes to return all our stolen monies and watch if the exchange rate will not bounce back and all other commodities.

AZeD1:

Doesn't stealing fall under illicit enrichment?

Thank u very much. I wonder why people will not try to comprehend what they read rather they rush to make comments.

tunwumi:
It can't be that's what lead to #Dasukigate

EFCC need to check this man out. Maybe he has something that he's hoping we can't lead to this anti corruption crusade

what's this one saying

yaki84:




hw will pmb differentiate btw the 2 when he is steal battling with his waec result?

I answer on sensible questions

Stevez32:


Explaining what he calls constitutes corruption, the ICPC chairman said: “If I walk into your office and I say that I have been sent by the president that this contract you are about to award must be awarded to me and now drop his card or the president’s card on the table. This is also an offence under corrupt practice.”


Read and understand, is this not a clear illustration of illicit enrichment?

There are many things under illicit enrichment and stealing is one of them.