Goke7:


even if he tars, you guys may still reject him which is the point am making.

onyi4edu:
GEJ was so right when he made that statement. The two words are not even synonymous

Inasmuch as this is true, both practices are bad and must be condemned

hyelhira:
If anyone/body knows the definition of corruption, I think it's Transparency International. It defines corruption:

Generally speaking as “the abuse of entrusted power for private gain”. Corruption can be classified as grand, petty and political, depending on the amounts of money lost and the sector where it occurs.

Grand corruption consists of acts committed at a high level of government that distort policies or the central functioning of the state, enabling leaders to benefit at the expense of the public good. Petty corruption refers to everyday abuse of entrusted power by low- and mid-level public officials in their interactions with ordinary citizens, who often are trying to access basic goods or services in places like hospitals, schools, police departments and other agencies.

Political corruption is a manipulation of policies, institutions and rules of procedure in the allocation of resources and financing by political decision makers, who abuse their position to sustain their power, status and wealth.

http://www.transparency.org/what-is-corruption/#define

Abuse of political position to sustain personal wealth (i.e. stealing in public office) is a subset/component of corruption. No one should try to tell us otherwise. http://www.transparency.org/glossary/term/embezzlement

Other elements of corruption are explained here: http://www.transparency.org/glossary/

Twy:


No he was not right, he is basically using an angle that is not supported by consensus. ICPC chairman is just trying to justify his jurisdictional power. Corrption in its purest form encompasses many things including social vices like prostitution and government stealing. However, public corruption in its purest form is the use of public resources for private gain. Check out a resonable website for public corruption. https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/corruption/public-corruption-overview. That is just the basic definition that is not worldwide. Stealing by government officials is corruption because it is use of public resources for private gain which in turns destroy the ethics and purpose of effective governance hence corrupting the governance

Pidggin:
This very statement was used to ridicule GEJ, but at last! He has been justified

Amanwulu1:
u thk say na play to read up to phd? He's more educated dan those abusing him. Did u see him coming up wit explanatn? It's cos he'd weighed educated illiterate nigerians IQ n found dem wanting hence d decision to leave dem to their delusion.

onyi4edu:
GEJ was so right when he made that statement. The two words are not even synonymous

Inasmuch as this is true, both practices are bad and must be condemned

Goke7:


with looted funds, right?

rottennaija:
In Nigeria, stealing and corruption is one and the same thing. Both is working against public interest and must be stopped by all means necessary.

Stealing is now corruption... PMB




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Why is it that every single topic that may make front page is filled by those that either they cannot offer any sensible comment or just comment to tongue lash this administration? It seems to be the latest tactic of PDP and wailers [/size]

Nbote:


last tym I checked, both the govt and d EFCC are yet to prove anything against him. They are even still yet to prove any of d loads of allegations dey came up with against anyone so far. So until then, it's all an illusion in ur paradise...

Bluffly:


Which could be either Mischief or the literal rule

pedrilo:
enrichment is not the same as stealing. Haba!

989900:
cor·rup·tion
kəˈrəpSH(ə)n/
noun
1.
dishonest or fraudulent conduct by those in power, typically involving bribery.
"the journalist who wants to expose corruption in high places"
synonyms: dishonesty, unscrupulousness, double-dealing, fraud, fraudulence, misconduct, crime, criminality, wrongdoing; bribery, venality, extortion, profiteering, payola; informalgraft, grift, crookedness, sleaze
"political corruption"

steal
stēl/Submit
verb
gerund or present participle: stealing
1.
take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.
"thieves stole her bicycle"
synonyms: purloin, thieve, take, take for oneself, help oneself to, loot, pilfer, run off with, abscond with, carry off, shoplift; embezzle, misappropriate; informalwalk off with, rob, swipe, snatch, nab, rip off, lift, “liberate”, “borrow”, filch, pinch, heist; informalnick; formalpeculate
"the burglars stole a fax machine"
theft, thieving, thievery, robbery, larceny, burglary, shoplifting, pilfering, pilferage, looting, misappropriation;
embezzlement;
formalpeculation
"he was convicted of stealing"

Verdict: Stealing is a form of corruption. Corruption may not necessarily be stealing.

TheGoodJoe:


That is one of the frightening development of nairaland. Due to the first to comment syndrome, people who have nothing to contribute flood the first page of the thread.


To the topic. By

Corrupt in one word means dishonest.

Any thing that falls under dishonest is corrupt.
Stealing is dishonest and so it is corrupt.

Even those who argue that Stealing is not corruption will agree that Embezzlement is corruption.

Embezzlement means to steal money that you have been trusted with (Merriam-Webster)

Please, Ekpo Nta, if you do not know, keep quiet because it is your type that confused GEJ.

TheGoodJoe:



Corruption = illicit Enrichment.

Illicit = Illegal.
Enrichment = Making rich.

So is stealing not making yourself rich of something illegally?

genxris:
When GEJ said it, opposition and his haters twisted it in a different context and kept dancing to it.

Ephemmm:


He is justified may be in the opinion of his supporters like you. According to Wikipedia - "Corruption is a form of dishonest or unethical conduct by a person entrusted with a position of authority, often to acquire personal benefit.[1] Corruption may include many activities including bribery and embezzlement, though it may also involve practices that are legal in many countries.[2] Government, or 'political', corruption occurs when an office-holder or other governmental employee acts in an official capacity for personal gain".

I think you can see the word 'embezzlement' in the definition which could be well regarded as stealing of public fund? Wise up please.

roolnaado:

by ur definition stealing of public funds is a part of corruption and not corruption

Kingspin:
is it the date more important than the message.

Kingspin:
Stealing is not corruption, the process made them different but [b]when the last president mentioned i[/b]t the media, APC and their supporters key in and how it for election purposes.

dlox147:
The Independent Corrupt Practices Commissions (ICPC) Chairman, Mr. Ekpo Nta, has reiterated his view that “stealing is not corruption.”

Speaking to a team of The Nation on Sunday in Lagos at the weekend, Nta explained that his commission would fare better if there was a proper understanding of the word corruption.

According to him, the controversy emanating from the definition of corruption is as a result of a long entrenched misunderstanding of the vice.

“If you don’t know what you are fighting then you might be busy fighting other things and thinking you are addressing the problem,” he stated.

The ICPC chairman, who has been criticised in the media for saying “stealing is not corruption”, stated that from the United Nations Convention Against Corruption (ONCAC) and the ICPC Act, the first item that falls under corrupt practices is bribery in public and private offices.

He backed up his views with Articles 15 and 16 of UNCAC and sections 8, 9 and 10 of the ICPC Act.
He listed what is considered as corruption under Article 19 of UNCAC and Section 19 of the ICPC Act as: illicit enrichment, trading in influence etc.

Explaining what he calls constitutes corruption, the ICPC chairman said: “If I walk into your office and I say that I have been sent by the president that this contact you are about to award must be awarded to me and now drop his card or the president’s card on the table. This is also an offence under corrupt practice.”

Nta reiterated that the major function of the ICPC is to check abuse of office by public office holders and government officials.
Stealing, he said, falls under the criminal code and should be reported to the police.

http://thenationonlineng.net/corruption-different-stealing-icpc-boss/#top

ISpiksDaTroof:
And when a Government Official steals from the Public Treasury what's that called?