Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:17pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
andrewbaba44:
Where did you see me rate awaziem ?
I rate awaziem because of his versatility,I remember when someone said awaziem is better than omeruo and I disagree
So no just call awaziem here ooo
And yes omeruo is better then awaziem
And tell me where I talk say awaziem better pass omeruo ? I have on numerous occasions |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:18pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
BascoVanVeli:
Yes like calling our U20 coach currupt in the middle of a tournament. U are very helpful Before the tournament. I did not make his team play crap. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:18pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
andrewbaba44:
220 epl appearance no be beans ,Mikel obi got 249
Maybe ndidi and nacho will get such if they stay in the epl for long because ndidi has already pass 100 nacho self is at 106 at a young age This is all I have been saying |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:19pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
tbaba1234:
Before the tournament.
I did not make his team play crap. In the middle of it. Right before matches. Of course you didn't make them play crap but u wasn't supportive as you are claiming to be. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 8:20pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
BascoVanVeli:
I have on numerous occasions Not me sir Maybe Chris and co I can only agree with me preferring ajayi and ekong |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:25pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
BascoVanVeli:
In the middle of it. Right before matches. Of course you didn't make them play crap but u wasn't supportive as you are claiming to be. I made no mention of the corruption issues during the tournament. You can go back and check. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:25pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
tbaba1234:
I made no mention of the corruption issues during the tournament.
You can go back and check. I don't need to check I remember |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 8:27pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
jihday: sadly he couldn't prove it, couldn't get out of the group in Chan, we struggled to draw Tanzania away from home. I'm not sure I'll agree he's a good coach Oliseh is tactically sound but tactical ingenuity does not mean that you'll become a great coach |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:28pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
andrewbaba44:
Not me sir
Maybe Chris and co
I can only agree with me preferring ajayi and ekong Okay sorry sir |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 8:30pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
I think tactical genius is overrated in coaching, what the players need is a good man manager and a motivator
Motivated players would deliver no matter the formation you play them |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:31pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
When i raised concerns about Imama, i maintained my position but still praised the team when they won.
At the end, the results spoke more than anything, i could say.
I remember, some came for my head when they qualified for the AFCON. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 8:32pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
Emery is an example, he would spend hours and hours analyzing what they played but they would still play nonsense the next week
The players were simply tired no amount of tactics could change that |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:35pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
Earthquake2: I think tactical genius is overrated in coaching, what the players need is a good man manager and a motivator
Motivated players would deliver no matter the formation you play them You have to have the complete package. You can be motivated but you approach a game wrongly, you will be punished. Klopp and Pep are not the best motivators in the game. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:36pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
Earthquake2: Emery is an example, he would spend hours and hours analyzing what they played but they would still play nonsense the next week
The players were simply tired no amount of tactics could change that Emery overcomplicated matters, he was not a good tactician. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:37pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
BascoVanVeli:
I don't need to check I remember I remember too because i deliberately did not talk about it. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:38pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
tbaba1234:
I remember too because i deliberately did not talk about it.
Yes you did. Or was this before the world cup? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:38pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
BascoVanVeli:
I don't need to check I remember
then I think you can't recall very well.
because he said it then. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:40pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
BascoVanVeli:
Yes you did. Or was this before the world cup? Was that about corruption? I specifically made no comments about corruption. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:42pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
tbaba1234:
Was that about corruption? What was the jamboree in Germany? Was that not where you said Aigbogun took half a million a piece for invites? U even said a level of human trafficking was going on remember? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 8:42pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
tbaba1234: When i raised concerns about Imama, i maintained my position but still praised the team when they won.
At the end, the results spoke more than anything, i could say.
I remember, some came for my head when they qualified for the AFCON.
Bro me am with you concerning this issue Cheers |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:44pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
BascoVanVeli:
What was the jamboree in Germany? Was that not where you said Aigbogun took half a million a piece for invites? U even said a level of human trafficking was going on remember? Jamboree was about having far too many players in camp days before the tournament Like i said, i made no reference to the corruption case during the tournament. You can keep digging |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 8:45pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
We still dey argue coach mata for here as per say YOBO appointment?
If nah coach wey get qualification una want, make una talk, dem planty for Ajegungle wella |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:46pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
Humility017:
then I think you can't recall very well.
because he said it then. Said what? Jeez Luiz u don't even know what we are talking about. u just want to support, supporters club |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by IDENNAA(m): 8:50pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
andrewbaba44:
Lol
You be Yoruba or where you from self You should have asked what the names mean. Learn how to communicate,firstly. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 8:51pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
quickberry: Odegbami: The Next Coach of the Super Eagles!
Nnamdi Ezekute Nnamdi Ezekute 1 month ago
I am stirring the hornets nest again.
The present times actually demand such ‘madness’.
I can almost hear many Nigerians, particularly those that cannot shake off the idea of a White coach being superior to anything a Black coach can offer, scream loudly that Segun has started again o!
Yes, I have started again, but permit me to remind everyone the source of my authority to stir things up.
In 1994, shortly after the USA World Cup, I initiated a campaign in my newspaper column to stop the hiring of foreign coaches for Nigeria’s national teams, including the Super Eagles. I believed that with the 1994 World Cup experience, Nigeria had finally laid down a firm foundation upon which a new generation of Nigerian coaches can be built.
I stated at the time that, starting with the Keshi-generation of ex-internationals turning coaches, Nigeria should have no further business hiring unknown foreigners to handle the Super Eagles again.
One of those that saw what I saw, and shared my vision was Onochie Anibeze, the. sports editor of the Vanguard newspapers.
Between us, and without consulting each other, but thinking purely from our mutual appreciation of the breakthrough achieved by the large entry of Nigerian players into the professional ranks of European football at the time (facilitated by Westerhof), and with many of them going all the way to experience playing in the World Cup, Nigeria had a pool of players with the capacity to become very successful national team coaches.
We even listed a few that we felt had the best qualifications. We were absolutely spot on.
From that list Stephen Keshi was identified as Clemens Westerhof’s natural successor even by the Dutch coach himself. ‘The Big Boss’ was a born leader. He carried this on to coaching after understudying Westerhof, getting licensed and climbing his way to become the most successful (Nigerian) coach ever.
Westerhof knew that when the chips are down a European will never love another man’s country enough to lay down his life. Meanwhile, such commitment is what is needed at the theatre of the most difficult competitions in football.
Onochie and I also identified in Samson Siasia, despite his Warri Boy attitude as a player, as having the streetwiseness and spirit, that can handle Nigerian players.
We were right. He secured the necessary qualifications and became the most celebrated coach by the international community in Nigeria’s history.
All of that was great until that generation became infected, as most of us are in the country in all spheres, by the compromiser ‘virus’ that turns good people to bad because, as John Mastoroudes derogatorily used to put it, ‘every Nigerian has a price’.
There were a few others too that I thought ought to go into coaching in order to build up the stock of qualified and experienced Nigerian players ready to step in and to take charge of Nigerian football at all levels – Daniel Amokachi, Ike Shorunmu, Emeka Ezeugo, Emmanuel Amuneke, Finidi George, Sunday Oliseh and so on.
Unfortunately, as they all did to achieve such a major paradigm shift was not going to be easy. To replace White coaches required the patience of a vulture that the fanatical Nigerian football fan did not have. So, as we speak, almost that entire generation of coaches are stuck in limbo, not fully embraced at home, and completely discriminated against overseas.
Administrators did not appreciate the consequences of halting the progression of developing Nigerian coaches by sticking with them through thick and thin, instead, they chose the easier route, and returned to our ‘vomit’ – the era of foreign coaches once again, back to slavery.
Europe will surely never take Nigerian coaches into the big clubs or national teams, even in a million years. But the worst aspect is the failure of Nigerian clubs and administrators to understand that initial ‘failures’ of their own coaches as useful lessons and tools along the journey to eventual success.
Indigenous coaches have remained in a vortex, going round and round in circles, not achieving anything.
Had Nigeria followed the trajectory of developing local coaches from our international pool of players after Stephen Keshi’s era, by now, no one will be engaged in the present debate about which coach should handle the Super Eagles for the 2022 World Cup, our next critical project. The cost of hiring one foreign coach can be spread across a whole planet of Nigerian coaches who could build a solid football environment and economy in the country.
So, it does not make sense to me, sentiments apart, to continue to tow the old, tested and failed route. If we must have a foreign coach it must be from amongst the best there is.
If not, if the choice is to be a Nigerian, as some of us advocate, we must not expect a quick fix or a sprint situation. It must be a mini-marathon race, on a long, lonely but guided route.
Nigerians must make up their minds to sink or swim with Nigerian ex-international players-turned-coaches, whilst giving them every best training and opportunity in the world to get the experience and knowledge to take Nigerian football to the zenith! If we do not do that, we shall remain forever in the state of thinking we are never good enough!
So, on that premise, yes, Segun has come again o!
Nigeria now has a second chance and a second generation of retired players with the football experience, knowledge and correct psychology (because they are Nigerians and are familiar with our players’ habits and idiosyncrasies) to be able to handle the national teams of Nigeria.
That’s why, without closing the chapter on the Keshi-generation, Nigeria must start again to look at the second generation. They are even slightly more equipped than the Keshi-generation with their deeper grounding in European football.
That’s why also, If I were to be in charge of Nigerian football, I will spend the next two years preparing a new leader out of the next generation of Nigerian coaches that will effectively take over all the national teams of Nigeria.
We tried it with Samson Siasia and Stephen Keshi and Austin Eguavoen Ike Shorunmu, Daniel Amokachi, and so on, and it worked up to a point and for a while, until the Nigerian factor reared its ugly head and Nigerians lost their patience.
This time, we won’t let it happen. Through a deliberate process of training and exposure to the best practices and personnel in the world, we would create new Guardiolas, Zidanes, Klopps, Enriques, all relatively young, retired ex-footballers that joined coaching ranks without having to waste years in the ‘classrooms’ but molded on the fields, to become the greatest coaches in the world today.
I have a person in mind. It is an informed position.
The excitement for me is that I do not even know if the great Nigerian football hero is interested in coaching, or if he has acquired a coaching license, or if he would even give up his present life for one of uncertainty and criticism that coaching attracts.
He will be making a great sacrifice if he takes up the offer. I will be prepared to sink or swim with him. He is very humble, a great leader of the national team players during his time, the player with the most caps for Nigeria in history, a mature, cool, well-read, very articulate and experienced ex-international football player, captain, very knowledgeable and probably the best football analyst I have seen of all Nigerian footballers.
Add to all the above, proper understudy of great coaches, the best professional training available anywhere, and a guarantee that the country will sink or swim with him, and I shall present to you, Joseph Yobo, the next coach of the Super Eagles in two years’ time!
Odegbami saw it coming.
Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.completesports.com/odegbami-the-next-coach-of-the-super-eagles/amp/ Baba received a lot of insults from people here because of this . . They thought baba had lost his kolo and relevance . 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:52pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
tbaba1234:
Jamboree was about having far too many players in camp days before the tournament
Like i said, i made no reference to the corruption case during the tournament. You can keep digging What was the reason u gave for so many players? I expect you to twist your words so it's okay. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 8:53pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
forgiveness:
His coaching is never the issue but his corrupt practices of players selection. Gbam What's the difference ? Is selecting the right players not part of what makes a good coach ? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:57pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
BascoVanVeli:
What was the reason u gave for so many players?
I expect you to twist your words so it's okay. Like i said, i avoided the corruption issues throughout the tournament. The team still underperformed. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:57pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
Danielnino00:
What's the difference ? Is selecting the right players not part of what makes a good coach ?
In Nigeria? If that be the case, no Nigerian coach is qualified. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 8:58pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
forgiveness:
In Nigeria? If that be the case, no Nigerian coach is qualified. Then why dis u defend Aigbohun ? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:00pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
Danielnino00:
Baba received a lot of insults from people here because of this . . They thought baba had lost his kolo and relevance . I believe Odegbami's statements influenced the choice of Yobo. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:06pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
tbaba1234:
Like i said, i avoided the corruption issues throughout the tournament.
The team still underperformed. U did but let's move on |