chrisooblog:
But you're conveniently forgetting what happened after Pep 'preferred' Gabriel over Aguero.

TheGoodJoe:


What does that have to do with the debate?

Napoleon55:
this haaland vs Osimhen debate is becoming unecessary .
It's better u make ur point y osimhen or haaland is better and end d debate for good.

the more u drag this argument,ur subconscious will begin to interprets it that u r against Osimhen,y u r actually not.
If there is game between norway and nigeria ,u will c urself wishing haaland outscores osimhen .
i'm very sure that almost everyone in this thread love Osimhen more than haaland ,but this kind of heated argument is capable of attracting resentments toward Osimhen or haaland .

haaland is better for now.that's a fact.
osimhen can become better tomorrow.that's the truth.
There is nothing wrong in accepting that.
There is nothing wrong in accepting that osimhen has a better attributes as a footballer either.


Only time will eventually tell who is really better,that's y all these arguments is premature and unecessary .

chrisooblog:
Because you said Pep wanted Jesus over Aguero without giving perspective as to why so. Plus your bold somehow suggests that Guardiola has always rated Gabriel over Kun.

TheSuperNerd:
A Shocker.... Rohr and the MF dept

Meanwhile, I have something to tell you all that might shock you.

I have had information from my Rohr communicados for a good while that Ovie Ejaria's switch and passport are done and dusted (although I still harbour personal doubts and for good reasons).

Now, I questioned my direct source to Rohr on why Ejaria hasn't been invited yet then since his switch is done. He told me, "Rohr is the one delaying Ejaria call-up because the lad's switch is actually done."

Those were his words.

I was shocked. I asked myself and then asked him...

"But Rohr knows and can see that we struggle to establish Ball playing dominance in the middle game. And a lad like Ejaria has good enough qualities to come in and function either in the AM or CM role and bring some much needed ball playing qualities.. so why would Rohr be delaying that?"

I even said I know Kelechi Nwakali and Alhassan Yusuf are much better Midfield dictators than Ejaria but Ejaria himself is gifted enough and a better ball playing Midfielder than several current SE MF options so why would Rohr be delaying bringing him in seeing that we have got little time before the Afcon kicks off?

Honestly, it is a mystery.

It is either Ejaria's passport is not yet ready despite the claim that it is... or could it be someone stopping Rohr from inviting him or could it be Rohr himself playing conservative and not acting fast to address our MF ball playing deficiencies.

Time will tell.

I Don tire for Rohr matter. Ike gwuru'm

humility33:


The naughty Equeavon is the head of technical committee... He doesn't even know what coaching entails same with the technical committee that approves the player lists without scrutinizing

TheGoodJoe:


Which why again?

Work rate and defensive contributions. Also, Gabriel Jesus is very comfortable on the wings and can play as a winger. So he suits Guardiola's player rotational movement s during play.

So Guardiola preferred him to the best foreign attacker in the history of the Premier League.

Is Aguero rated higher that Gabriel Jesus? Yes.

Did he prefer a less rated striker due to the dimensions he can bring to the team? Yes.

So what is the problem?

TheSuperNerd:
A Shocker.... Rohr and the MF dept

Meanwhile, I have something to tell you all that might shock you.

I have had information from my Rohr communicados for a good while that Ovie Ejaria's switch and passport are done and dusted (although I still harbour personal doubts and for good reasons).

Now, I questioned my direct source to Rohr on why Ejaria hasn't been invited yet then since his switch is done. He told me, "Rohr is the one delaying Ejaria call-up because the lad's switch is actually done."

Those were his words.

I was shocked. I asked myself and then asked him...

"But Rohr knows and can see that we struggle to establish Ball playing dominance in the middle game. And a lad like Ejaria has good enough qualities to come in and function either in the AM or CM role and bring some much needed ball playing qualities.. so why would Rohr be delaying that?"

I even said I know Kelechi Nwakali and Alhassan Yusuf are much better Midfield dictators than Ejaria but Ejaria himself is gifted enough and a better ball playing Midfielder than several current SE MF options so why would Rohr be delaying bringing him in seeing that we have got little time before the Afcon kicks off?

Honestly, it is a mystery.

It is either Ejaria's passport is not yet ready despite the claim that it is... or could it be someone stopping Rohr from inviting him or could it be Rohr himself playing conservative and not acting fast to address our MF ball playing deficiencies.

Time will tell.

I Don tire for Rohr matter. Ike gwuru'm

chrisooblog:
Aguero at the beginning of Pep's era also lacked in this work rate and defensive contributions you are mentioning. However the arrival of Jesus made Kun improve his game to match Guardiola's expectations added to his goal scoring exploits.

Jesus on the other hand despite these positive attributes you mentioned which Pep likes hasn't pushed on.

How come Kun during this period played more games than the 'preferred' Gabriel?

How come despite the injury, loss of form and departure of Aguero the 'preferred' Gabriel is still finding it hard to tie down a starting Xl berth?

andrewbaba44:


They said pep prefer Jesus to aguero

But if we check aguero time under guardiola he has more game time than Jesus despite being an injury prone player

andrewbaba44:


They said pep prefer Jesus to aguero

But if we check aguero time under guardiola he has more game time than Jesus despite being an injury prone player

Karlovych:
Plus more goals per season in the premier league. The highest Jesus ever scored was 14 in the league

chrisooblog:
you prefer someone's food more than mine but every day you come to buy at my stall no be confusion be that?

chrisooblog:
Aguero at the beginning of Pep's era also lacked in this work rate and defensive contributions you are mentioning. However the arrival of Jesus made Kun improve his game to match Guardiola's expectations added to his goal scoring exploits.

Jesus on the other hand despite these positive attributes you mentioned which Pep likes hasn't pushed on.

How come Kun during this period played more league games than the 'preferred' Gabriel?

How come despite the injury, loss of form and departure of Aguero the 'preferred' Gabriel is still finding it hard to tie down a starting Xl berth?

Ppogbae:




Baba focus on making sure that the Oyinbo zombie wins the final two matches and qualifies this team

andrewbaba44:


Make we no even go the goals side self Baba

Na only Aguero last season Jesus pass am and it’s because aguero was injured throughout the season ,he didn’t play more than 5 epl games self

andrewbaba44:


They said pep prefer Jesus to aguero

But if we check aguero time under guardiola he has more game time than Jesus despite being an injury prone player

Karlovych:
Some arguments here can be very funny honestly and I hardly take them seriously.

TheGoodJoe:


Aguero at the beginning of Pep's era also lacked in this work rate and defensive contributions you are mentioning. However the arrival of Jesus made Kun improve his game to match Guardiola's expectations added to his goal scoring exploits.

Did you read this before typing?

How does the above deviate from

GUARDIOLA PREFERRED GABRIEL JESUS TO AGUERO.

Read it and tell me how it is different.

TheGoodJoe:


So you agree Guardiola signed Gabriel Jesus because Aguero despite being lethal in front of goal and one of the greatest strikers in the history of the game.

So he chose to sign a small boy due to his work rate off the ball and benched an attacking legend.

Any thing after that is devoid of the point.

If Aguero improved work rate for game time proves my point. Finito.

TheGoodJoe:


So you agree Guardiola signed Gabriel Jesus because Aguero despite being lethal in front of goal and one of the greatest strikers in the history of the game.

So he chose to sign a small boy due to his work rate off the ball and benched an attacking legend.

Any thing after that is devoid of the point.

If Aguero improved work rate for game time proves my point. Finito.

Karlovych:
Some arguments here can be very funny honestly and I hardly take them seriously.

TheGoodJoe:


TheSuperNerd submitted a full thesis breaking down attributes of Osimhen that can make a coach prefer him over a Goal Machine Haaland.

Yet you are posting goals. That is off the debate.

chrisooblog:
It doesn't prove anything. Pep didn't initially fancy Aguero he thought Jesus would fit the bill the Brazilian largely didn't. Kun till injury and loss of form was still the top dog.

Checkout this scenario What you are trying to say is like when Pep sold Ibrahimovic to allow Messi thrive further in Barcelona. Instead of leaving Barca Zlatan stayed and even surpassed Lionel in goal scoring at the nou camp. Then Zlatan leaves but Messi is trying to break into the starting XI while we say Pep preferred Messi over one of the world's deadliest strikers because of work rate and defensive contribution

Mujtahida:

What kind of wuru wuru - to - the- answer kind of tricks is this? We are talking about objective criteria as to who is better than the other yet you keep going on and on talking about Gaudiola's personal preference and using it to sidestep the real issue.

I've taken Joebie's hint that one should let the music play on and therefore let the matter slide but what concerns me is the intellectual cunningness of your position.
Simple case: who is better than the other not who Gaudiola prefers based on specific attributes!

solonnachi:


Rohr is really toying with our world cup chances. He makes weak team look strong when playing Nigeria. Do we need to protest to the NFF as fans for Ejaria, Lookman, Nwakali, Alhassan and Amoo to be invited again? Only God knows the true story behind Olise opting for Algeria. On paper, we have all these guys but in reality, we are still struggling to qualify. We now celebrate 2-0 win when other teams whitewash their opponents. No thanks to Rohr

Mujtahida:

What kind of wuru wuru - to - the- answer kind of tricks is this? We are talking about objective criteria as to who is better than the other yet you keep going on and on talking about Gaudiola's personal preference and using it to sidestep the real issue.

I've taken Joebie's hint that one should let the music play on and therefore let the matter slide but what concerns me is the intellectual cunningness of your position.
Simple case: who is better than the other not who Gaudiola prefers based on specific attributes!

Mujtahida:

What kind of wuru wuru - to - the- answer kind of tricks is this? We are talking about objective criteria as to who is better than the other yet you keep going on and on talking about Gaudiola's personal preference and using it to sidestep the real issue.

I've taken Joebie's hint that one should let the music play on and therefore let the matter slide but what concerns me is the intellectual cunningness of your position.
Simple case: who is better than the other not who Gaudiola prefers based on specific attributes!

Mujtahida:

What kind of wuru wuru - to - the- answer kind of tricks is this? We are talking about objective criteria as to who is better than the other yet you keep going on and on talking about Gaudiola's personal preference and using it to sidestep the real issue.

I've taken Joebie's hint that one should let the music play on and therefore let the matter slide but what concerns me is the intellectual cunningness of your position.
Simple case: who is better than the other not who Gaudiola prefers based on specific attributes!

TFLASHOGEE:
that is how they went to disgrace their self with the carpenters dey took to America to play a friendly that caused detriment to our FIFA ranking bunch of nitwits

Karlovych:
You also forgot to note that Aguero is way older than Jesus and could be a reason why Pep preferred a younger player. Rudi Voller preferred to take Gerald Asamoah to the world cup after 6 Bundesliga goals over those that scored more than him in the league like Martin Max and Michael Preetz who were in their 30s. A coach's preference doesn't change records or statistics.

TheGoodJoe:


We are talking of coaching preference due to attributes. Get the point.

We have said Haaland is rated higher. What else do you want? We should wear Haaland crown?