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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 8:00pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
TheGoodJoe:What's Cryuff's philosophy sir? I thought he was the one who started all this tikitaka stuff |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:02pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:04pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
mostob: This possession stuff is ages before Cruyff. Cruyff's boss, coached him in the national team, Ajax and Barcelona, Rinus Michels made lots of breakthrough. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:07pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
mostob: If you check out Cruyff's team, they were amazing. Just amazing. Neeskens and co. However, it is with respect to today's game and the modern football era. Also, Hungary played some good possession based football in the 50s. However, where Guardiola comes in is centering his game on keeping the possession stats heavily tilted to his philosophy. He who controls the ball, controls the game. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 8:09pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
TheGoodJoe:Alright. But a simple search from my end here shows Johan Cruyff invented tikitaka. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:09pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
mostob: That is why Ten Hag referred to Pep as the pioneer. Note, Ten Hag is a huge Rinus Michels fan. What Guardiola did was to break it down into a working formula. 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:12pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
mostob: I wonder how. Rinus Michels was even awarded as the coach of the century. He did the magic. Cruyff was his disciple. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:25pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
mostob: Just found an interesting read on Quora. I get excited when I read people that share similar understanding to mine. I must say, he is far more elaborate but notice the similarities in ideas. Did Pep Guardiola really invent Tiki-Taka football when he was at FC Barcelona? Yes, he did. To make it even more perfect, he combined some previous used tactics with it. Most wrong themselves by thinking that Tiki-Taka was invented by Cryuff… Cryuff way of playing was Total Football: TOTAL FOOTBALL: This was invented by Cryuff and Dutch National Team, the idea behind this is that players are constantly moving and creating space and when a player moves and leaves space another player rushes their to fill the vacant space, it’s idea was not to retain ball possession! the example for this tactic is: Spurs, Real Madrid and Roma … if you look to their play, the players move to create space and slowly they'll work their way up to opponents box and there's no such final third restriction and they don't keep the ball for up to 80%… Tiki-Taka: This was invented by Pep Guardiola, the main idea behind this to dominate the play so you dominate your opponent and starve them out of the ball to death. He uses to have up to 85% ball possession. The other thing about tiki-taka is that it's build around a Conductor, in Barcelona it was S. Busquets (Not Xavi) and in city mostly its Fernandinho. Now the secondary ideas that he used to enhance his system and idea are: Gegen Press, False No 9, False fullbacks and the recent False No 8. Out of these he uses the Gegen Press as a catalyst to his system; to quickly recover the ball as soon as lost. So yeah, Tiki-Taka is his truly invention. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:29pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
mostob: Even that analyst missed that TOTAL FOOTBALL is Rinus Michels and not Cruyff. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 8:31pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
TheGoodJoe:Ok Prof 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:47pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 9:11pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
TheGoodJoe:Congrats sir, they have brought your buffet with what you like to eat, Prof. TIKi TAKA!!! 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 9:13pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
TheGoodJoe:No vex sir, so does Kompany deploy Tiki Taka? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 9:54pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
mostob:If true, really sad for the victim. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 9:54pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
Danielnino00: Right now, i hope we get the best out of this peak mode of Iwobi. Etebo kon be like he no get 2nd true true. But we go dey alright as we got more technical guys around. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 9:59pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
mostob: Those two aren't good defensively. But an impressionable manager will make them do such. One player i want to see play in GWG this year is Alhassan. Let's see what he can offer. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 9:59pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
charlesemeka85:If na Messi, e go dey accurate. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:04pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
Dakkada vs Wikki Tourists Dakkada's first goal was weird but beautiful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juAlAVtsG7E 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 10:06pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
AndSunGorilla:But Alves really disappoint o. All those money and the fame yet you resorted to r*ping a 23-year old. Something wey you fit get in return for selfie. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:08pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
TheSuperNerd: See ehn, Nwakali just needs to end the season on a high note and his agent should get him a better team... Eguavon gave him a call up cus he felt he needed him... Peseiro is behaving like Rohr by downsizing our midfield selections... It's very unlikely he would be called up.. Aside his creativity,he also offers good set piece taking abilities 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 10:12pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
Guess the stars are comporting and aligning for an osihmen scudetto 1 Like
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:16pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
AndSunGorilla: I have told you the since term is possession heavy football. Then read this excerpt. Then you can answer the question yourself. 1 Like
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:18pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
Juventus have been docked 15 points in the league for some dubious transfer dealings! Big news for Napoli |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:18pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
AndSunGorilla: Tiki Taka = Possession heavy football. That excerpt clearly states that Kompany style is heavily possession based, almost like Manchester City. That is Kompany style is Tiki taka based. Finito. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:39pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
Nathan Tella strikes again!!! The Inevitable scoring wing forward of the Championship. Beautiful goal it was too. How he attacks the Half spaces and the gap between CB and Fullback is just Beautiful to behold. Baller! His goal brings Kompany's Burnley level vs West Bromwich Albion. Ajayi on the bench. 9 goals and 2 assists now in 25 League games (19 starts). 3 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:40pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
To be honest, IMO, it is not Juventus they should be worried about. AC Milan lurks and that is the main contender for Napoli this season. Inter too is another. Danielnino00: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:58pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
I expect a step-up move for Nwakali at the end of the season after his Ponferradina journey. He's been one of the best midfielders in the Spanish 2nd tier after 23 matchdays so far and I believe his showings will attract offers. He should just keep it up. Time will tell. With that said, if I truly want to get a job done, I will go for the tools that will help me get it done perfectly. Perhaps, it is because Jpes seems too relaxed in this job. No true fiery desire to improve the team. It's just business as usual. Very sad. I am watching Kompany's Burnley right now wrapping up a comeback win vs West Brom (game just ended) and my eyes have been as always on Tella. His improvement under Kompany is noticeable. A serious NT coach should be looking his way as another alternative for the Wing roles. Him being in the Championship should not erase the fact that the lad has got some quality. To be honest Dan, JPes is not inspiring confidence especially in his selections. It is Lazy and business as usual. Even Rohr wasn't this relaxed in his 1st year on the job. Danielnino00: 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 11:03pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
Are you afraid to say Kompany deploys tiki-taka? . What the hell does similar mean? The article says having seen Pep's methods for four years, Kompany employs a heavy possession system. No comments on whether it's tiki-taka or not. Again there are several systems that are possession-based but quite different from tiki-taka. TheGoodJoe: 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:06pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
TheSuperNerd: Tella's goal and Twine's "Nwakali-like" Freekick (Yep, I said that on Purpose coz the similarity of execution is wow) complete the Comeback for Burnley in a hard fought 2-1 victory. Burnley stay top of the Championship 5 pts clear of Sheffield Utd. 2 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 11:11pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
Another simple question. This a question I believe one of our friends asked you. Is every possession-based system tiki-taka? TheGoodJoe: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 11:13pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
Hmmmmmm |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Curtisaxel10: 11:21pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
mostob: I wonder why wealthy and powerful people rape. A person like Alves can easily pay just about any glamorous porn girl for hookup services and satiate his lust. He has the money. Even without spending money. With his popularity alone, millions of beautiful ladies would throw themselves at him without a second thought. So, why rape? 2 Likes |
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