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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 1:06pm On Apr 01, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
Just look at the quick transition buildup from right to left for that Alvarez goal. Beautiful.

Mahrez penetrates into the right halfspace into the final third against a backtracking Liverpool defence. Finds Gundogan centrally between the lines who quickly and intelligently sends it to the far left to an unmarked Grealish who put it on a plate for Alvarez to Bury.

The quickness in that attacking transition play and the passing flow. Brilliant. We can do this. We have the players for this but our coaches just aren't hammering the need to consistently transit like this as a team in the final third.

I applaud KDB for knowing just when to release the ball. But the top praise is to Grealish. Gundo knew he will be there without looking. Grealish and Ake sync is top despite having dangerous Salah on their wing. No be to dey hold ball dey waste am with muscle like Simon Moses.


Sure we do have the players. But half of the time, they lack discipline
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:11pm On Apr 01, 2023
daveP:


I applaud KDB for knowing just when to release the ball. But the top praise is to Grealish. Gundo knew he will be there without looking. Grealish and Ake sync is top despite having dangerous Salah on their wing. No be to dey hold ball dey waste am with muscle like Simon Moses.


Sure we do have the players. But half of the time, they lack discipline

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 1:12pm On Apr 01, 2023
Grealish might be a good player but man...he is too dirty. Don't know why referees can't see through his gimmicks for cheap fouls.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:19pm On Apr 01, 2023
And yes, the quick release by KDB to Mahrez on the right set up an initial 4 v 3 situation in favor of City which Mahrez utilised intelligently by quickly driving into that right halfspace centrally and seeking out Gundogan who had already Pre-Scanned to his left to know that Grealish would be there.

That's part of what I am talking about. Initiating Quick transitions and Taking advantage of the transition situations presented to you. It became 4 v 4 as Mahrez found Gundogan but it was already too late as the 4th man (hendo) running in to cut City's initial 4v3 couldn't pick out Alvarez early enough.


About Discipline... These lads (SE Players) need to be exposed to this system like an automation time and time again in training to drill it into them. They will pick it up and begin using it consistently. Their thought process in the final third will Change if we repeatedly drum this transition mentality into them.

daveP:


I applaud KDB for knowing just when to release the ball. But the top praise is to Grealish. Gundo knew he will be there without looking. Grealish and Ake sync is top despite having dangerous Salah on their wing. No be to dey hold ball dey waste am with muscle like Simon Moses.


Sure we do have the players. But half of the time, they lack discipline

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 1:22pm On Apr 01, 2023
They have started wailing over carpentry attackers in the SE

The moment good replacements come for Moses Simon and the overrated chuks is when you guys will know that thoe two pretenders have reached their peak and can't go above this level
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 1:24pm On Apr 01, 2023
TheSuperNerd:


🤣🤣🤣

Sincerely, the guy's style dey vex me gaan. He doesn't just understand that being in a threatening spot is way more better than his selfish muscling drama.

See Mahrez! His path to take a shot has been blocked almost 4times this 1st half. Guy shapali release ball and drag away the attention from him, enabling him to be in a more advantageous spot inside the box.

I'll love to see the Ake/Grealish style replicated between Zaidu/Simon(provided Simon get sense).

Ake has done just well enough with Salah. No need for gumbody.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 1:25pm On Apr 01, 2023
daveP:
Watching this City vs Liverpool just proves that na carpenter be our SE coach. See how the Liverpool wingers are pressing, while the midfielders are blocking city's next line of pass.

The interchange between Jota and Salah too.

Definitely 50% understanding each other and 50% Discipline

Don’t criticize SE and it’s coaches abeg

We have no football identity

The boys train together Least 20 times in a year

They all have different pattern of play because The country They came from doesn’t have a pattern or play style

They all do what they can and hope for an individual effort to come to the rescue so to me it’s not the coach

But our mentality and style
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 1:28pm On Apr 01, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
Just look at the quick transition buildup from right to left for that Alvarez goal. Beautiful.

Mahrez penetrates from the far right into the right halfspace in the final third against a backtracking Liverpool defence. Finds Gundogan centrally between the lines who quickly and intelligently sends it to the far left to an unmarked Grealish who put it on a plate for Alvarez to Bury.

The quickness in that attacking transition play and the passing flow. Brilliant. We can do this. We have the players for this but our coaches just aren't hammering the need to consistently transit like this as a team in the final third.

Quick transitions help you gain some advantage numerically against a team whose rest defence has been weakened due to a turnover against the opposition in midfield or near the final third.

Timing is still everything in football.

Do you know how many drills city does to get to this point for Bleep sake city trains 3 times a day

And an extra session for film and positional awareness

We can’t string 5 passes on the opposition half without having it intercepted now you want us to play like city ??

Have you seen city training camp and facilities?

Have you seen the drills they run

Please we have no business doing exactly that

And we don’t have the personal to do that right now

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 1:30pm On Apr 01, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
And yes, the quick release by KDB to Mahrez on the right set up an initial 4 v 3 situation in favor of City which Mahrez utilised intelligently by quickly driving into that right halfspace centrally and seeking out Gundogan who had already Pre-Scanned to his left to know that Grealish would be there.

That's part of what I am talking about. Initiating Quick transitions and Taking advantage of the transition situations presented to you. It became 4 v 4 as Mahrez found Gundogan but it was already too late as the 4th man (hendo) running in to cut City's initial 4v3 couldn't pick out Alvarez early enough.


About Discipline... These lads (SE Players) need to be exposed to this system like an automation time and time again in training to drill it into them. They will pick it up and begin using it consistently. Their thought process in the final third will Change if we repeatedly drum this transition mentality into them.


Im glad we know that none of this transition will be achieved by this Site Contractor. Since employers don't even know what they need, it becomes worse when selecting. If na long ball style, a draft of such coaches with that comes in. If na possession-same. If na park the bus.... I wonder what Nff wanted that they got Site Contractor. Kon dey use the useless 'Mou recommended him' thing to April fool all of us🤣🤣


One thing i love about the discipline is that if any big player doesn't behave, they'll get benched for small players that heed the coach's warning. Until the align since playing time is important.



Another thing is how fastpaced approach to the final third is. No slowing down. Shapali shapali, from both teams.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 1:31pm On Apr 01, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
And yes, the quick release by KDB to Mahrez on the right set up an initial 4 v 3 situation in favor of City which Mahrez utilised intelligently by quickly driving into that right halfspace centrally and seeking out Gundogan who had already Pre-Scanned to his left to know that Grealish would be there.

That's part of what I am talking about. Initiating Quick transitions and Taking advantage of the transition situations presented to you. It became 4 v 4 as Mahrez found Gundogan but it was already too late as the 4th man (hendo) running in to cut City's initial 4v3 couldn't pick out Alvarez early enough.


About Discipline... These lads (SE Players) need to be exposed to this system like an automation time and time again in training to drill it into them. They will pick it up and begin using it consistently. Their thought process in the final third will Change if we repeatedly drum this transition mentality into them.


You expect them to play like this when we currently have no player who has 10% output of kdb or the players you listed

You can’t give what you don’t have

They don’t play like that in their respective clubs and you expect them to turn into prime Barcelona within just 3 days of training wtf man
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 1:33pm On Apr 01, 2023
Blueelf:
They have started wailing over carpentry attackers in the SE

The moment good replacements come for Moses Simon and the overrated chuks is when you guys will know that thoe two pretenders have reached their peak and can't go above this level

We’re currently not breeding any good replacement
So expect them chuks and Moses to be holding the flanks for the next 8 years
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:34pm On Apr 01, 2023
Coaches make this happen bruv. If the coaches we have prioritize it, we would see some changes in our final third plays as well.

We have every business doing exactly what led to that City goal. It is not a move limited to "few sides" in football. Even Remo Stars' Beyond Limits FA coach, Olumide Ajibolade speaks about this transition game to his young lads almost everytime and they are picking it up.

Nduka prioritises this approach to his attackers in the Naija U17 and they apply it well so why say it is something the Super Eagles can't pick up and execute? The truth is the coaches aren't prioritising it.

Also, our midfield still needs addressing because that quick transition move doesn't happen without an intelligent quick ball passer in the middle like we saw with KDB to Mahrez to set up that initial 4v3 situation.


typicalgamer:


Do you know how many drills city does to get to this point for Bleep sake city trains 3 times a day

And an extra session for film and positional awareness

We can’t string 5 passes on the opposition half without having it intercepted now you want us to play like city ??

Have you seen city training camp and facilities?

Have you seen the drills they run

Please we have no business doing exactly that

And we don’t have the personal to do that right now

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 1:34pm On Apr 01, 2023
typicalgamer:


Don’t criticize SE and it’s coaches abeg

We have no football identity

The boys train together Least 20 times in a year

They all have different pattern of play because The country They came from doesn’t have a pattern or play style

They all do what they can and hope for an individual effort to come to the rescue so to me it’s not the coach

But our mentality and style

But this is no excuse even for a big African team like Nigeria. Yes we lack identity, but even the Moroccan Female team have an identity despite all players playing across the world.

Everyone flying home for national games already understand that they are coming home to play the national team style. That's discipline. If they like they can do whatever they can at their clubs.

Well, not bad, at least to wish. We need an identity. Especially Possession style.

I can't even see games where our defenders becomes midfielders during games. I miss Balogun alot for that aspect.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 1:37pm On Apr 01, 2023
daveP:


But this is no excuse even for a big African team like Nigeria. Yes we lack identity, but even the Moroccan Female team have an identity despite all players playing across the world.

Everyone flying home for national games already understand that they are coming home to play the national teak style. That's discipline. If they like they can do whatever they can at their clubs.

Well, not bad at least to wish. We need an identity. Especially Possession style.

I can't even see games where our defenders becomes midfielders during games. I miss Balogun alot for that aspect.

Our identity from time immemorial has been individual brilliance and luck

No other identity we have that’s why you noticed

You can’t have least 5 Nigeria players starting in a single club

Because what are we gonna do there ?

Jam body football?

2 afcon back it was etebo wayward shot that hit opponents arm that gave us a pk.

These are the little details
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:39pm On Apr 01, 2023
Your excuses fail the test of cogency, dear one.

Now to execute that first City Goal, We don't need to have a KDB when all that is needed is a genuine ball player in the middle with a near unlimited passing range and Vision. Think Nwakali here. We have that.

A left footed RW who can actually penetrate into the half spaces and pick out gaps for a pass into the central areas... we have that in Chukwueze.

Or a LW who can hug the left side or just be present in the left half space to provide that well timed cut back or cross following a quick transition or switch of play from right to left.... we have that in a disciplined Moses Simon and an in-form Lookman.

It is all about instructions and repeating the moves in training whenever we meet.


Priorities. Walid Regragui came in just few months to the WC and gave Morocco a style that got them to the bloody Semis. So please don't use time as an excuse. If the coaches prioritise, changes will be seen.

typicalgamer:


You expect them to play like this when we currently have no player who has 10% output of kdb or the players you listed

You can’t give what you don’t have

They don’t play like that in their respective clubs and you expect them to turn into prime Barcelona within just 3 days of training wtf man

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 1:40pm On Apr 01, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
Coaches make this happen bruv. If the coaches we have prioritize it, we would see some changes in our final third plays as well.

We have every business doing exactly what led to that City goal. It is not a move limited to "few sides" in football. Even Remo Stars' Beyond Limits FA coach, Olumide Ajibolade speaks about this transition game to his young lads almost everytime and they are picking it up.

Nduka prioritises this approach to his attackers in the Naija U17 and they apply it well so why say it is something the Super Eagles can't pick up and execute? The truth is the coaches aren't prioritising it.

Also, our midfield still needs addressing because that quick transition move doesn't happen without an intelligent quick ball passer in the middle like we saw with KDB to Mahrez to set up that initial 4v3 situation.



We don’t have a player of marhez caliber neither do we have a player of kdb qualities

How long did you think city practiced this move behind close doors ??

And you expect a coach to just be capable of drilling it into a team within a month ?

If se had a month together to train trust me they’ll be a different beast.

But as of right now with the pool of players we got we have no business doing 5% of what city is doing right now

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 1:41pm On Apr 01, 2023
typicalgamer:


Our identity from time immemorial has been individual brilliance and luck

No other identity we have that’s why you noticed

You can’t have least 5 Nigeria players starting in a single club

Because what are we gonna do there ?

Jam body football?

2 afcon back it was etebo wayward shot that hit opponents arm that gave us a pk.

These are the little details

That is why I'm saying that even if city trains and drills, it is no excuse for Nigeria to not have such a style. The female teams have it. See the Sarina style at women's euros alone.

Look at players like Bellingham and Akanji. Different style at club but once in national colors, they understand the style needed to play. So if we wish we had such and the excuse is that city trains 3ice daily, that is not just it.

We go dey alright. We need an impressionist, disciplinarian as manager.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 1:43pm On Apr 01, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
Your excuses fail the test of cogency, dear one.

We don't need to have a KDB when all that is needed is a genuine ball player in the middle with a near unlimited passing range and Vision. Think Nwakali here. We have that.

A left footed RW who can actually penetrate into the half spaces and pick out gaps for a pass into the central areas... we have that in Chukwueze.

Or a LW who can hug the left side or just be present in the left half space to provide that well timed cut back or cross following a quick transition or switch of play from right to left.... we have that in a disciplined Moses Simon and an in-form Lookman.

It is all about instructions and repeating the moves in training whenever we meet.


Priorities. Walid Regragui came in just few months to the WC and gave Morocco a style that got them to the bloody Semis. So please don't use time as an excuse. If the coaches prioritise, changes will be seen.


The problem now is that we’re not the ones who gets to decide if nwakali gets picked or not !!

And trusting our anchor ⚓️ To a late bloomer like nwakali is suicidal and outright a gamble

But all the same this generation don’t have the players to play the type of football we all want and dream of.

Good pitch or bad this generation ain’t got that spark.

We thrive on individual brilliance and luck
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:44pm On Apr 01, 2023
You are only repeating yourself and your questions. I have addressed them in the post you quoted.

And to the bolded... ask how Walid Regragui did it with just 2 months to the WC last year.
You witnessed what he did? Good.

And we have every business doing the exact move that led to City’s first goal.

typicalgamer:


We don’t have a player of marhez caliber neither do we have a player of kdb qualities

How long did you think city practiced this move behind close doors ??

And you expect a coach to just be capable of drilling it into a team within a month?

If se had a month together to train trust me they’ll be a different beast.

But as of right now with the pool of players we got we have no business doing 5% of what city is doing right now

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:48pm On Apr 01, 2023
What you have isn't working and is even worsening. We are in a debilitating situation as far as our middle game is concerned.
So will it hurt to take that gamble? And is it actually a gamble when analyses show he is exactly the kind of midfielder we need alongside a few others like Alhassan and Onyedika?


And the individual brilliance and luck approach can all be transformed into a team that actually plays for one another and for a common goal. Coaches and priorities. It is their (the coaches') job to get a group of talented players to function right.

This generation has enough talented players to play the kind of football we want.

typicalgamer:


The problem now is that we’re not the ones who gets to decide if nwakali gets picked or not !!

And trusting our anchor ⚓️ To a late bloomer like nwakali is suicidal and outright a gamble

But all the same this generation don’t have the players to play the type of football we all want and dream of.

Good pitch or bad this generation ain’t got that spark.

We thrive on individual brilliance and luck

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 1:53pm On Apr 01, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
You didn't miss it but did you capture it? grin

Lol. I didn't know it would disappear so soon. I spent a lot of time testing how the Emojis looked.

I selected the scariest ones but when I posted them, the negative colors were gone embarassed
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:01pm On Apr 01, 2023
JohnBullMySon:
Lol. I didn't know it would disappear so soon. I spent a lot of time testing how the Emojis looked.

I selected the scariest ones but when I posted them, the negative colors were gone embarassed

Lol... that's alright. Experimental Son. grin

I got a few shots shaa mainly because of the dark background look. Lol

To those who missed it, this was NL earlier today.😂😂

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 2:02pm On Apr 01, 2023
John Stones in Central midfield having more key passes than Liverpool midfielders. Pep sef😂😂😂😂👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 2:09pm On Apr 01, 2023
Let super eagles go for pep guardiola on pay as u go contract😀😀😀
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:10pm On Apr 01, 2023
Another Long ball switch yet again from Gundogan to Grealish, KDB attacks the gap in the left halfspace allowing Grealish to play him in, make his run centrally into the box while KDB who ran wingwards cuts the ball back and Grealish bags.

Just 3 passes starting with that Gundogan long ball/play switch to a less concentrated left side and viola... GOAL!!!

And you say we can't do this? All we need is a long ball expert who can switch plays quickly and smartly and the receiving winger in that less marked zone to make the right decision either to attack on the outside or the inside with corresponding support like we saw with KDB and Grealish.

E no hard.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 2:19pm On Apr 01, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
You are only repeating yourself and your questions. I have addressed them in the post you quoted.

And to the bolded... ask how Walid Regragui did it with just 2 months to the WC last year.
You witnessed what he did? Good.

And we have every business doing the exact move that led to City’s first goal.


I’m sorry go and do your business and score fluently like city.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 2:20pm On Apr 01, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
Another Long ball switch yet again from Gundogan to Grealish, KDB attacks the gap in the left halfspace allowing Grealish to play him in, make his run centrally into the box while KDB who ran wingwards cuts the ball back and Grealish bags.

Just 3 passes starting with that Gundogan long ball/play switch to a less concentrated left side and viola... GOAL!!!

And you say we can't do this? All we need us a long ball expert who can switch plays quickly and smartly and the receiving winger in that less marked zone to make the right decision either to attack on the outside or the inside with corresponding support like we saw with KDB and Grealish.

E no hard.

Seriously i want you to lace boots and get into the field instead of calling names

If it’s that simple why aren’t Liverpool doing the same thing ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:20pm On Apr 01, 2023
Blueelf who has been "honestly" criticising our Super Eagles all week now watching his Liverpool side produce this today.... 😭😭😭😭

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 2:21pm On Apr 01, 2023
Omo...this is the real definition of been outplayed. Pep na something else...
grin grin grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:23pm On Apr 01, 2023
It's simple. Because Man City are doing it better than Liverpool has attempted while also keeping their rest defence kinda okay. Liverpool has been outclassed and outplayed.

And please, avoid the cheap route of "lace your boots and go try it out". William Still who mostly did video games/football manager but knows the game enough is now a coach in Ligue 1 and doing very okay. Analytical eyes in the game is not limited to those who can play or has played.

And guess what, I have played and can play.

typicalgamer:


Seriously i want you to lace boots and get into the field instead of calling names

If it’s that simple why aren’t Liverpool doing the same thing ?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 2:24pm On Apr 01, 2023
Fact is if Super eagles has this same City squad with Peseiro as the coach, the like of Cape Verde go still dey wallop us.

It takes more than the players' abilities to play a beautiful football.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 2:27pm On Apr 01, 2023
TheSuperNerd:
It's simple. Because Man City are doing it better than Liverpool has attempted while also keeping their rest defence kinda okay.

And place avoid the cheap route of "lace your boots and go try it out". Will Still who mostly did video games/football manager but knows the game enough is now a coach in Ligue 1 and doing very okay. Analytical eyes in the game is not limited to those who can or has played.

And guess what, I have played and can play.


Lace your boot and go play is not an insult bro.

With your analytical skills there’s certainly a department that you could fit right in perfectly.

Because at the end of the day once Pablo Escobar lite gets sacked

They’ll still hire someone who’s sole objective is to fill his pockets than build a team

No matter how you put it we’re stuck with mediocrity for the next decade and that’s a fact

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