safarigirl:
who dem come buy am for? Girona?

I could have sworn it was said here that Guardiola broke an arm and a leg to get Kayode last minute? Someone claimed that Guardiola had such high regard for Kayode that he simply had to get him into City. Is that not the case?

Joebie:
Doesn't bother me, as long as he keeps doing a good job for SE.

goldfish80:


But he hasn't been that good for the SE either. Take away the second half against Argentina and the cameo goal against Zambia, he's been flat ever since.

We complained on this thread about his output against Algeria at home and South Africa. His poor display in those 2 games saw him benched for Moses Simon in the Cameroun double header and Zambia decider.

You may choose to turn a blind eye to his below par performances but not all of us have goldfish memory.

g0tze:
Let's do away with the bickerings and focus on the task at hand which is the world cup.
I have some important questions to ask.
For instance which players can anyone of you rightly predict will be among the 23 man squard.
Is there a possibility that the super eagles will make it past second round or What are the chances of eagles making it past second round.
goldfish80 TheGoodjoe safarigirl somehow joebie BascoVanveli tbaba1234 OMANBALA1 kog45 Oasis007 icons4 icon79 humility017 terzurum5 i need your thoughts on my question

Kog45:
Chijioke Ejiogu(Arugo monkey)we have brilliants keepers in the league in those days,hope you remember Greg Etafia,very solid keeper.Sunday Rotimi which i rate than Enyeama,Ejide and Aiyenugba then but surprisedly i heard that is still playing in the league.

Joebie:
You are as good as your last game for SE.

Icon4s:


Yes. His performance never projected him to the Super Eagles then because we had Enyeama, Ejide and Ayenugba. EOD.

g0tze:
Let's do away with the bickerings and focus on the task at hand which is the world cup.
I have some important questions to ask.
For instance which players can anyone of you rightly predict will be among the 23 man squard.
Is there a possibility that the super eagles will make it past second round or What are the chances of eagles making it past second round.
goldfish80 TheGoodjoe safarigirl somehow joebie BascoVanveli tbaba1234 OMANBALA1 kog45 Oasis007 icons4 icon79 humility017 terzurum5 i need your thoughts on my question

tbaba1234:
Ebuehi linked with Benfica move but he is leaning towards an England move..

goldfish80:


YOu can give him that benefit of doubt, doesn't change the facts. Hopefully, it doesn't blowback in our faces when it matters most since we choose to be over protective.

safarigirl:
let Klopp face his front for now. We will get back to him after World Cup, make we dey count how many of our players dey chop bench gut

Joebie:
Does it not surprise you that his shots are so on point when playing for SE?
There is no logic in complaining about his performances against Algeria in the past etc, when he's done very well in his most recent matches for SE. Judge him by that until he starts performing badly.. When he was doing badly for us, we all called him out here.. nobody is protective of him.. that's just in your head.

Oasis007:




You are never a Believer of Experience, hence engaging you in this Discourse gonna end in Futile, coz experience-wise the Gap is too wide and both ain't in the same Class!

Puel has managed Top Teams like Monaco, Lyon, Lille, Nice, Southampton and now Leicester - these are Elites Clubs, not second Division Clubs.

He won many Titles as a Player, also as a Manager he has won Titles. Can you name the Achievement(s) of Lee Johnson?!

goldfish80:


It's not in my head. Myself and Omabala have been the few ones bold enough to call him out for poor performances when the majority have chosen to have a go at Arsenal fans instead of looking at the boy's performance critically.

I find it it ironic that we complain about Nigerian players lack of international recognition in individual awards, but we set the bar very low for the promising ones.
This is exactly what you're doing by ignoring his club form and judging him solely on his last game for the national team a couple of months back.

This is not the way to go if excellence is our aspiration.

Kog45:
Even as at that time Chiejoke Ejiogu was not better than the trio but good keeper that can be bank on,i remember watching him against Enyimba with Dele in goal,my man he stole the show,it was Ejiogu vs Aiyenugba cos the two had a great 120 minutes but during penalties shootout,Ejiogu was fantastic.

Joebie:
Read my first comment again.
I said i'm fine as long as he keeps doing well for SE.
Why should I judge him by Arsenal standards if he keeps doing for us what he did against Argentina?
it's simple logic. It's not setting the bar low.. It seems like you people want angels to come and play for SE. The reality on ground is that there are few Nigerians getting regular playing time in the big leagues. And there is nothing we can do about that.. Or what solution are you suggesting? You are talking about being over protective of him as if his sponsors are here.. we are just Nairalanders, we don't decide how these players careers go.

When Iwobi was performing badly for SE, many of us here called him out.. Maybe you are referring to another thread where you and Omanbala belong.

Joebie:
As is stands, these are sure bankers
1. Victor Moses
2. Obi Mikel
3. Kelechi Iheanacho
4. Alex Iwobi
5. Odion Ighalo
6. Leon Balogun
7. Troost Ekong
8. Moses Simon
9. Shehu Abdullahi
10. Wilfred Ndidi
11. Eddy Onazi

If these players can show their relevance again in March friendlies, they are sure bankers
1. Brian Idowu
2. John Ogu
3. Tyronne Ebuehi

4. Ahmed Musa*he should be in category 3 just like Echiejele cos he still has a lot to prove that why he is still relevant in the team

5. Chidozie Awaziem*he should be in category 1 of your list though not really spectacular but his performance in French league is awesome and remain the best performing SE CB

6. Kenneth Omeruo

7. Francis Uzoho

8. Vincent Enyeama (IF)*i don't think Enyeama is ready to come back so let plan with what we have for now

These players still have a lot to prove:
1. Mikel Agu*i don't rate him but he should be in category 2 of your list

2. Anthony Nwakaeme

3. Olarenwaju Kayode (IF in consideration)*if Nwakaeme is considered then definitely he would be considered.

4. Oghenekaro Etebo

5. Henry Onyekuru*his recent injury likely to affect his chances cos he is a fringe player in eagles even when fit.

6. Ola Aina*am seeing him making the team and it w depend on Echiejele form and fitness though Ebuhei and Idowu still need to tell us their performance against Argentina is not a fluke.

7. Elderson Echiejile*if Musa is in category 2 then Echiejele should be there cos despite his poor showing he still maintain his starting berth until injury set in.

Some players who are not in the team who would get an opportunity to gate crash:
1. Joel Obi*i don't see him gatecrashed into the team cos he is not reliable due to injury.

2. Sarenren Bazee*well one of the players Rohr convinced to play for Nigeria with that he can make it but need to prove he has overcome his injury.

3. Isaac Success*only sentiment would make him made the team,apart from that i don't see him breaking into the team

[b]I hope I am not missing any names here[/b]Ezenwa, Akpeyi, Alampasu,Ajiboye and Maduka,mind you any of our keepers can make the team cos it's open for grab

I don't expect it to be an easy pass for Torunarigha, Uduokhai and Akpboguma if they all switch to playing for Nigeria. But one of the trio may make it to Russia.

__I don't want to talk much on these trio cos they are not ready so count them out.

Our chances:
Nigeria will go past the second round for the first time. That I am sure of. I foresee us stealing a point from the Argentina game.
Iceland will shock one team in the group.
Argentina will get two unfavorable results. you know anything below a win is unfavorable for them.

-----better for Argentina to get good result in their first two matches so that we can have relax mind to play them not getting favourable results against Iceland and Croatia meaning our match against them would be difficult. Let everything be settled before Argentina match,am seeing Nigeria and Argentina making it to the next round.

goldfish80:


In the entire 2017, he had one good game for the national team. That is not good enough no matter how anybody feels about it.
It is a miscalculation if you think he has been doing well for the SE and his form for Arsenal is negligible. Period

Icon4s:


Maybe if there was a CHAN Eagles team as at then, he would have been banked on but not the Super Eagles team.

Farzat:


You argue everyday because you're devoid intelligence n sufficient points to win argument. [/b]I don't need to know u in person to know that you're not a successful person[b] and u think everyone here is on d same page with u

Kog45:
Good list but read my little inputs.

Kog45:
My man i said he wasn't better than the trio but very good keeper that would not be shaking like Ezenwa and Akpeyi that we are banking on now if given the chance.

Joebie:
Ahmed Musa bagged an assist against Argentina. If he does something similar again during the March friendlies, do you think his chances will be slim?
On Awaziem, I'm going by performance in SE colors. He did well against Argentina. If he repeats a similar feat during the March friendlies he would be as well on the plane to Russia.

On Vincent Enyeama (IF), no point replaying this debate. I already put a big IF.
On Kayode, I said "IF in consideration", he has a point to prove. You are saying if Nwakaeme, is then he should be. That's what you say. But you won't be the one handing the invites.

I am not bringing any sentiments to his. When Aina made his debut I hailed him. But since then he's not been impressive for SE. He has a point to prove. I never said he won't make it to Russia.

Bazeee just started to get game time.. Both he and Success are in a similar category. Rohr is interested in both, but something has always stood in their way to joining to the team.. Let's be realistic. They belong to the same class. no sentiments here. Once Success starts to get game time, he will definitely get a call up.

As regards our group chances, let's wait and see.

Echiejile retained his staring place for a long spell due to lack of competition. The situation is very different now.

Joebie:
I've already made my point. Iwobi was not great for Arsenal during the period he sent us to the WC and when he scored a double against Argentina. So what is your conclusion on that? So when I say if he keeps performing well for us, that's the context. If you want to judge him by the entire 2017 and say he is not good enough, then what are you suggesting we should do about it?
What is your point really?

goldfish80:


In the entire 2017, he had one good game for the national team. That is not good enough no matter how anybody feels about it.
It is a miscalculation if you think he has been doing well for the SE and his form for Arsenal is negligible. Period

Icon4s:


He was not tested at the international level. Club and national team football are not the same. So you can't conclude he would have faired better.

If a goalie like Akpeyi with his performance in the PSL was never given the chance to play for the SE you would have said he was one of the best goalies that was never given the opportunity.

The other day some of us were blaming the Eagles handlers of the 90s for not giving Williams Okpara a chance in the Super Eagles only for the clips of the Holland friendly to surface and we found out it was the William Okpara that was the atrocious keeper in that second half.

I personal do not feel comfortable rating players that are or were not tested.

Kog45:
I didn't start this,someone said Ejiogu was a good keeper and i said oh Arugo Monkey very good keeper nothing more.I don't think anyone mentioned may be he was good for Eagles then but you came up with eagles stuff.

On goalkeepers given chance before you can rate them,well if i see one i know and that's why i will always rate Uzoho and Ajiboye than Ezenwa and Akpeyi.

I'm one of the critique of Uzoho but watching him against Girona i changed my mind,also watching Ajiboye against Guinea showed that he is good and recent NPFL six invitational tournament in Kano showed Ajiboye is better than Ezenwa but am not the coach,if Rohr still stick with Ezenwa no issue cos is a must to respect his decision.

BascoVanVeli:


I don't think his form has been as poor as people make it seem. Maybe he needs to take the game by the neck a little more but for the most part Arsenal fans are making him the scapegoat for their lack of steel in the back.

goldfish80:


My point is simple and very plain.
Iwobi haven't been that great for both club and country if we judge his all round round game in 2017.

What he does for Arsenal matters alot in his development. Hypothetically, he finds himself in league 2 he won't be considered for SE. So club form matters in the grand scheme of things. Club form can never be isolated

Iwobi is not above criticism, he has has done nothing to be above criticism. He's neither Messi nor Pele.

Finally, Arsenal fans aren't out to get him because he's Nigerian. All Arsenal fans are not English. The English ones have long forgotten he dropped England for Nigeria. Rob Holden, Walcot, Welbeck were the most heavily criticized yesterday and they are English.
I took my time to type all these because many posters here seem to erroneously think people are out to get Iwobi because he's Nigerian.

Kog45:
Bazee is getting games but Success is not even making match day squad so different scenario.