princesuko:


Can't say i blame them. Nigeria hasn't had this type of talent In a while so they Need to Hype him well .

TheSuperNerd:
Pressure on City.... What an excuse!!!

Five games..... Not even five minutes and you tell me about pressure.

One game.... Just one game. And Nacho wasn't even poor. He was just average and his high-pressing game was excellent.

Even TheGoodJoe himself who you wanna support and join swords with will knock you for using "poor" to define Nacho's performance that day.


Aguero lost form so badly that Pep had to even bench him at a point.

Nacho never lost form. He always delivered during Aguero's absence thru suspension.

So mister.... Bollocks is all you've just said. So Nacho must be at "WORLD CLASS LEVEL" to get games huh?? Na wa for some people sef....

TheSuperNerd:
You better stay your fingers before you type more ignorant comments here.

princesuko:

He and Sane were given the lowest according to Dailymail.
Leroy Sane - 5

Given a role on the left flank, Sane endured a night to forget at Old Trafford. Showed his ability in the weekend's draw with Southampton but didn't see enough of the ball to test United's defence on Wednesday. Was eventually replaced by Sterling.

Kelechi Iheanacho - 5

Proved to be City's hero at the weekend by popping up with the equaliser against Southampton but was ineffective against United. Missed a glorious chance to break the deadlock in the early stages, fluffing his lines when he should have at least tested De Gea.

I just Showed You kelechi Minutes compared to other Backup striker in top teams in Europe.

princesuko:

It was Sarcasm or maybe NOT

goldfish80:


Iheanacho must not develop under Guardiola to become world class.

joseph1013:
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TheGoodJoe:


I have stressed that there is more things I feel Iheanacho should add to his game. So, the talk of giving him opportunity to show his skills does not add up.

enigmaticmotik:



Thegoodjoe I respect some of your contributions and others too (thesupernerd inclusive) but I want you to look at this Iheanacho's situation from a different perspective tho. A professor (Guardiola) tells a young Dangote (Iheanacho) "You will never make it in biz if you do not discard your opinions in biz and follow my advice" (one formula does not work for everyone because we are humans and not chemicals). Come to thinks of it without the influence of a particular coach both messi and Ronaldo would have attained this same height notwithstanding.

Iheanacho needs to move to Spurs (if the rumours are anything to go by ) where he can actually get more playing time, the arrival of Jesus (who I guess will be Guardiola's 1st choice for so many reasons) will even reduce his game time which is not so encouraging as of now (even when Aguero was NOT FULLY FIT... Says a lot)... My opinion tho

TheSuperNerd:
Pressure on City.... What an excuse!!!

Five games..... Not even five minutes and you tell me about pressure.

One game you can point to.... Just one game. And Nacho wasn't even poor. He was just average and his high-pressing game was excellent.

Even TheGoodJoe himself who you wanna support and join swords with will knock you for using "poor" to define Nacho's performance that day.


Aguero lost form so badly that Pep had to even bench him at some point.

Nacho never lost form. He always delivered during Aguero's absence thru suspension.

So mister.... Bollocks is all you've just said. So Nacho must be at "WORLD CLASS LEVEL" to get games huh?? Na wa for some people sef....

princesuko:


I don't know why guys on this thread are reasoning with "emotionally" clouded minds. Iheanacho is nowhere near the level of Aguero and Wouldn't start for any other Big Team aspiring for European or League Success. Pep prefers his wingers to be Very Fast which is not a strong attribute of Kelechi so he cant start as a winger. Pep doesn't play with a Second/Supporting Striker.

Morata doesn't start games when Benzema is Fit and Firing. Munir who i rate didn't start games when suarez was below par last season. Iheanacho would get his chance but to think he is a world beater that deserves to start ahead of Aguero is disturbing.

BascoVanVeli:


What do u mean one man? That is the point a player with that quality plays in Nigeria and so we can't be discounted. The point is that the guy is still an hacker with no experience at any company, why are u hanging on to this?

safarigirl:
now you're doubting Kelechi to justify Pep's blatant discrimination?

Goodjoe, I think you're now sounding like all those club-crazed fans that refuse to see when their clubs are messing up.African players careers

zicky:
Keep Nacho on the bench until he learn all or gain all the skills he needs, I don't believe this is coming from you...
This seems to be the worst thing after the Uruguayan FA
President said Suarez was 'only playing' with Chellini!

tbaba1234:
I think, we overhype our players here sometimes. Iheanacho is an outstanding talent and given the chances will be world class but he is a youngster not the finished article. He needs regular games to prove it. He can certainly sign for another top club but i prefer a manager that will give him opportunities.

Etebo is a great player but Brazil also has comparable talents. And yes, they might not necessarily be better than him to get better clubs. Brazilians are more marketable.

TheSuperNerd:
Yara Yara right now....




Me right now..... **like seriously?...**

goldfish80:
Isn't it funny it took Lord Guardiola to bench kelechi iheanacho for people to see through what I've been saying all these while about Lord Pep.

Guardiola is a checkbook manager, I don't care how anyone feels about it. Judging by his antecedents, Guardiola will move for a big money singing next season to pair with Aguero or play off Aguero while Iheanacho will be left in the lurch. Anyone in doubt should bookmark this page and compare notes by August next year.

However, we should keep in mind that Kelechi is only 20. He is an apprentist. The only difference between Kelechi and K. Nwakali is that one is learning at Man city while the other is being educated at Maas*** in Holland.
At 20, Lukaku and Kevin de Bryne were in no man's land till they bounced off on loans to cut their teeth before getting to their present level.

I don't support Kelechi becoming a professional trainee just because he wants to work with Guardiola. It will affect his psychology and mentality and in the long run stunt his growth.

Iheanacho should be looking at going on loan to mid table clubs like Everton, Southampton (Roland Koeman and Claude Puel will be great for him), Valencia won't be bad too, since they and Manchester City have a decent relationship.

Iheanacho must not develop under Guardiola to become world class.

goldfish80:
Isn't it funny it took Lord Guardiola to bench kelechi iheanacho for people to see through what I've been saying all these while about Lord Pep.

Guardiola is a checkbook manager, I don't care how anyone feels about it. Judging by his antecedents, Guardiola will move for a big money singing next season to pair with Aguero or play off Aguero while Iheanacho will be left in the lurch. Anyone in doubt should bookmark this page and compare notes by August next year.

However, we should keep in mind that Kelechi is only 20. He is an apprentist. The only difference between Kelechi and K. Nwakali is that one is learning at Man city while the other is being educated at Maas*** in Holland.
At 20, Lukaku and Kevin de Bryne were in no man's land till they bounced off on loans to cut their teeth before getting to their present level.

I don't support Kelechi becoming a professional trainee just because he wants to work with Guardiola. It will affect his psychology and mentality and in the long run stunt his growth.

Iheanacho should be looking at going on loan to mid table clubs like Everton, Southampton (Roland Koeman and Claude Puel will be great for him), Valencia won't be bad too, since they and Manchester City have a decent relationship.

Iheanacho must not develop under Guardiola to become world class.

bigblangston:
You were not here when kelechi was compared to Alexis Sanchez, infact someone even went as far to type that Kelechi is better than Alexis Sanchez. Nothing wey I never read for here.

TheGoodJoe:


There is still more to learn. So, Nacho can not show that "More" until he learns it. I am not saying that Nacho does not have a bag full of goodies to display. I am talking of the MORE.

TheSuperNerd:
5/10 is average not poor.... Ask your mathematics teacher again.

Even Indepth analysis and TheGoodJoe himself (DIE-HARD CITYZEN WHO SEES NO WRONG IN PEP) praised Nacho's high-pressing that day.


@bolded... So?? Like seriously?? Is that your angle? Plss show me his "European competition" minutes compared to same back-up strikers (for those in european competition sef)...

TheGoodJoe:


There are people who analyse by just looking at reports. I doubt he watched that game closely. In the article, the author talked of Nacho missing a glorious chance. He will not talk of the amazing performance of Nacho before that miss.

Nacho dropped deep into midfield, helped in the build up play, then ran at an unbelievable speed to meet the ball ahead of all the players in front of him during the build-up.

They will say what a poor miss but, they will not say what a brilliant play to get to that position.

So no use arguing much with people who view things from one perspective.

TheGoodJoe:


I want Iheanacho also playing. I honestly do but I want him improving more. Playing time, to me is to showcase what you have learnt. I wish Nacho was playing and showing people how good he is. Unfortunately, Aguero is ahead of him and not doing badly.

What is more important is that Nacho keeps working hard with Guardiola and improving. As he gets better day by day, he will become a deadlier player for us.

I am against Nacho leaving now because of playing time, throwing away the valuable lessons he is learning under Guardiola.

TheGoodJoe:


Can you show me where I for one second said Iheanacho should be ahead of Aguero? Did you even read what you quoted?

Please, maybe you are following the development of Nacho. If not, you will not make a statement of Nacho without speed. Nacho off the ball, is now blistering. Watch Manchester City's build-up play before Iheanacho's goal against Bournemouth. Iheanacho kept up with the pace of Sterling.

Watch Iheanacho's run before Ighalo's goal against Luxemburg. The Algerian coach pointed that Iheanacho's running caused them problems. The guy is now fast.

What I want to see is for Iheanacho to pull off those speed with the ball. That is what I mean add to his game.

TheSuperNerd:
It matters not what it is..... It reeks of ignorance.

TheGoodJoe:


I am not doubting Kelechi Iheanacho's ability. I am seeing his development. I noticed his fitness, stamina, speed improve.

However, I want to see him improve more and I believe he is at the right spot to achieve it. Showcasing what he already knows is not the ideal way to improve. He has more to learn, then we can talk of him showing what he can do.