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Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by alfsalami: 10:52pm On Apr 06, 2016
So his remuneration outside office was over four times while in office ! Naija .God may need to build another hell for naija politicians . Thank you PMB

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Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by JoBabs(m): 10:57pm On Apr 06, 2016
2boiz:
Don't tell me his pension is twice as much as his monthly salary o undecided Don't tell me nonsense... In fact, ma gbeyen wa rara sad

The pension even rose to four times his salary as a governor...
I guess being a pensioner is now better off being an active servant

Very soon one yeye governing body go write say Kwara State Government mistook Saraki's salaries for pensions....

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Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by Hafyz23(m): 11:03pm On Apr 06, 2016
Kwarans na m.u.m.u now

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Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by jaxxy(m): 11:05pm On Apr 06, 2016
ziccoit:
Why did the supposed "pension" has to be stopped in 2015? I thought pension is supposed to be a lifetime benefit.


Do u know how many people/civil servants who's pension has not been paid in d last 6months

Modath

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Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by nuradeen011(m): 11:05pm On Apr 06, 2016
StepTwo:

if the pension thing is true,den i bliv d introduction of minimum wage must have given it that boost.
stop given account on something u knw nothing abt minimum wage only effect active workers

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Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by jaxxy(m): 11:07pm On Apr 06, 2016
2boiz:
Don't tell me his pension is twice as much as his monthly salary o undecided Don't tell me nonsense... In fact, ma gbeyen wa rara sad

The pension even rose to four times his salary as a governor...
I guess being a pensioner is now better off being an active servant

Check dat of Lagos state u will know dis is small fry. Kwara no get money na

Cc modath
Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by bikefab(m): 11:07pm On Apr 06, 2016
So EFCC is filled with a bunch of illiterates who are cannot differentiate between pensions and salaries?
Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by oyedeley2ky: 11:11pm On Apr 06, 2016
Pension is 1.2m God will punish you people and some people worked for 35yr collecting #20000 even some will not see collect a dime till they die

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Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by Krismart(m): 11:12pm On Apr 06, 2016
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Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by onibokun10(m): 11:19pm On Apr 06, 2016
one shit thing abt the kwarans, they'll still shout SAI SARAKI if the guy shows up. imaging the govt defending this thief despite all odds he's put them through... anyways, all days for the theif, 1 day for EFCC.
WATCH OUT FOR THE NEXT EPISODE...
Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by Honduras: 11:20pm On Apr 06, 2016
Pls he was nt d one dat called Prof a common Commissioner. Always follow up to avoid misleading the public. It was Rufai that made dat comment
uote author=Paulpaulpaul post=44467906]All I know is he must suffer for calling a prof a common commissioner[/quote]
Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by Gamesmart: 11:24pm On Apr 06, 2016
Lets summarise the holes in this Kwara State lies:

1) Why is pension being paid to a man that is yet to retire? A pension comes from a pot to support people that have retired from work.

2) Why is Kwara state government paying people's pension? Should that not come from a pension administrator?

3) Why is the pension, being paid, sometimes labelled as "salary" in the bank statements?

4) How come the "pension" or "salary" is more than his previous salaries as a Governor and always increasing? If it is being increased, will the percentage increase not be applicable to other Kwara pensioners?

5) Why was the "pension" payments stopped in August 2015 and has not been paid since then? Did Saraki die that it had to stop?


These show the monies are just casual withdrawals by Saraki from Kwara State budget. Maybe he is claiming back money he spent on putting his cronies in position in the state.

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Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by olaomoola1(m): 11:27pm On Apr 06, 2016
I said it saraki has bitten more than what Be could chew.imagine u know u have skeleton in ur cupboard and u are stepping on toes. Tor if u escape dis u will learn

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Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by comely77(m): 11:34pm On Apr 06, 2016
elmisti:


See U!....almst all ex-governors collect pensions from dier states!...Tinubu inclusive!....


Infact I know for a fact that saraki is entitled to a awse built for him by d state govt......if this is where dis trial is going...d man can jst make a fool out of dem all


it is dishonest to earn both pension and salary at the same time

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Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by Menzy86(m): 11:35pm On Apr 06, 2016
In all my years on earth I have never seen a whole state as mentally enslaved and hypnotized as kwara. U need to live amongst them to understand exactly what Im trying to say.

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Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by Dee60: 11:35pm On Apr 06, 2016
Only in Nigeria!

Nonsense that does not make sense. People that really served this country were left to die on queues waiting to collect peanuts as salaries while the self imposed lords will even have their pensions multiplied after service....

Nonsense.

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Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by eleko1: 11:37pm On Apr 06, 2016
cheesy grin lipsrsealed lipsrsealed smiley grin grin sad shocked cheesy grin grin grin grin grin embarassed.
loomer:


I beg speak ur language
undecided grin undecided cheesy undecided

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Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by StepTwo: 11:38pm On Apr 06, 2016
nuradeen011:
stop given account on something u knw nothing abt minimum wage only effect active workers

and who says that?

that your state has not been able to effect it does not mean it doesnt exist.

a state like cross river had to go as far as paying arears to the pensioners before effecting their minimum wage.

u can do ur research

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Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by aresa: 11:48pm On Apr 06, 2016
LadyExcellency:


Saraki is as evil as Tinubu and Fashola respectively. We have an obligation to condemn both and not absolve one for whatever reason.

The Lagos State Governor and Deputy Governor's Bill passed in 2007 is one of the most secretive Bills passed by the Lagos House of Assembly as contained in the List of Bills Passed see http://adeyemiikuforiji.org/legislation.html

Lagos State, Law No. 11 of 2007 of Lagos State gives pension to any former governor who completed two terms equivalent to the exact salary paid to the sitting governor, plus 300 per cent of his or her basic salary as furniture allowance. In addition, the law provides choice houses, bullet-proof cars to be renewed every three years; eight policemen and two SSS details, entertainment, car maintenance, house maintenance, personal assistant, and utility allowances among other things.



The bogus link you posted doesn't reflect your claim. Find something better to prove your point with..

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Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by Blakenails(m): 12:13am On Apr 07, 2016
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Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by marv1: 12:13am On Apr 07, 2016
ziccoit:
Why did the supposed "pension" has to be stopped in 2015? I thought pension is supposed to be a lifetime benefit.
They are just fooling themselves not us. If saraki has an iota of shame he should resign as SP. He is a gonner.

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Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by tomakint: 12:15am On Apr 07, 2016
Menzy86:
In all my years on earth I have never seen a whole state as mentally enslaved and hypnotized as kwara. U need to live amongst them to understand exactly what Im trying to say.
My brother you just drag me back into this thread and I wouldn't mind if on this issue you raise that we take this thread to its 20th page. I just returned from Kwara (like 2 weeks ago) and anytime Saraki's case comes up for discussion you need to see how some human slaves are ready to fight, argue for this kleptomaniac who had rob Kwarans of their future. The only thing remaining now is to change Kwara to Saraki State.....very myopic and erroneously religious and stupidly fetish clowns....though not all but majorly the Ilorin indigenes.

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Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by tomakint: 12:22am On Apr 07, 2016
aresa:




The bogus link you posted doesn't reflect your claim. Find something better to prove your point with..
Anytime Tinubu's case comes up for discussion in the real scenario playing out, you always rear your bald head to defend somebody who has turned Lagos into his Fiefdom......and I keep asking if you are a born slave. All of a sudden the link has become suddenly bogus shocked were you blind when Bode George gave the true picture of what LadyExcellency posted above few years back? Perhaps you know the politics of Lagos State more than Bode George. Perhaps you are one of the "irritating omo oniles"......undecided **spits on his bald head**

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Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by aresa: 12:23am On Apr 07, 2016
From June 2011, former Governor Saraki started receiving his pension, which was N578,188.00 as other past governors in the country,” Gold said in a statement.

The statement added that after the review of pensions of former political office holders by the state pension board, the former governor’s pension increased to N1,239,493.94 monthly from October 2014 to date.





demanded details of his (Mr. Saraki) salary account during investigations and discovered that he received regular salaries after the expiration of his tenure on May 29, 2011.
“His salary for June was N291,412:75k
, while that of July, August and September were N572,286:32k, N744,000 and N743,942 respectively,” Mr. Wetkast said.


Ok, the state government is trying to wiggle out of their collusion and conspiracy to defraud the people of Kwara state even by justifying the jump in payment to over 1 million per month while failing to explain the monthly jump from N291,412 > N572,286 >N744,000.


Is the state saying they did salary or pension review and increased payments every month on behalf of their former governor.?

There are things you can't cover or wash away with lame and insulting reasons...


The state should have stayed out of it instead of doing abobaku pending EFCC assault on their fabrications..

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Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by aresa: 12:25am On Apr 07, 2016
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tomakint:

Anytime Tinubu's case comes up for discussion in the real scenario playing out, you always rear your bald head to defend somebody who has turned Lagos into his Fiefdom......and I keep asking if you are a born slave. All of a sudden the link has become suddenly bogus shocked were you blind when Bode George gave the true picture of what LadyExcellency posted above few years back? Perhaps you know the politics of Lagos State more than Bode George. Perhaps you are one of the "irritating omo oniles"......undecided **spits on his bald head*"
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Rubbish..

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Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by tomakint: 12:30am On Apr 07, 2016
aresa:
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Rubbish..
Keep defending Tinubu on empty stomach....in case you don't know he (Tinubu) doesn't give a damn about your body, soul and spirit!

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Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by brashear: 12:41am On Apr 07, 2016
xreal:
Ok.

EFCC also mistook the Kwara government's account with GTBank for Sarakis'.

Also, EFCC mistook the loan Kwara government was servicing for Sarakis. Maybe Kwara owns all the said properties in the uk.


Kwara is in real bondage.
haha lmaoo
Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by Rainmaker2016: 1:10am On Apr 07, 2016
Nice one, guess EFCC also mistook the state's GTaccount and property for Saraki's. Mr governor govern us well, this state must b very rich. Little wonder why no one is jobless here
Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by suco01(m): 1:21am On Apr 07, 2016
Nigerian ma country, d guy said pension, pension dat started frm 2011 and suddenly end 2015 not still running, pension dat was increasing frm thousands to million and meanwhile d real civil servant who are aged pensioner neva receive their retirement pension. I hate dis country called Nigeria. Dat 80yrs 90yrs old grandpa and grandma still neva get their retirement pension afta 30yrs to 40yrs of service to d nation, one stuuupid yeye governor who used 8 gud yrs in state house looting evrytin dat comes his way "money" and still a senator 5yrs still countin receiving pension.. Dis country is Totally finished and beyond correction....
Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by 2n2k(m): 1:50am On Apr 07, 2016
Let us summarise the holes in the holes you picked

Gamesmart:
Lets summarise the holes in this Kwara State lies:

1) Why is pension being paid to a man that is yet to retire? A pension comes from a pot to support people that have retired from work.

Pension laws for governors of each state allow it. He is deemed to have retired on successful completion of his tenure (if not impeached). The same applies to all former Heads of State at federal level. It was under that law that Buhari got the cars that was bombed and the replacement (through Dasuki)

2) Why is Kwara state government paying people's pension? Should that not come from a pension administrator?

The Pension Laws for Presidents and Governors are different laws from Pension Reform Act that established Pension Fund Administrators (PFA). For PFA to be responsible for your pensions, you must have been a contributor during your working life. This is not applicable to presidents and governors. Even under the Pension Reform Act, there is what is called Close Pension Scheme. Military, secret service, nnpc workers, Shell, Mobil workers etc operate their independent pension schemes not through PFAs

3) Why is the pension, being paid, sometimes labelled as "salary" in the bank statements?

What the bank decides to label a payment is not the headache of the state government after all it has no access to Saraki's bank statements to know how it was labeled. What matter should be what does its own vouchers and supporting documents call the payments and if there is a law that authorized that payment

4) How come the "pension" or "salary" is more than his previous salaries as a Governor and always increasing? If it is being increased, will the percentage increase not be applicable to other Kwara pensioners?

If the law provides it, no offence has been committed. In NNPC, your pension is reviewed anytime the salaries of active workers are reviewed. So the pension at a point will surpass your salary that you retired upon. In any case, like I said earlier, the pension laws for governors are different from General pension law

5) Why was the "pension" payments stopped in August 2015 and has not been paid since then? Did Saraki die that it had to stop?

The question that should be asked is what is efcc trying to prove by bring up the issue of these payments and in what context was it brought up. According to the report, efcc only said that these payments stopped coming into Gtb and Access bank accounts. They did not say that they confirmed from Kwara government if it stopped making payments or whether Saraki started using another bank account to receive the payments. What if Saraki donated the fund and instructed the government to be paying the donees directly? What if he had benevolently asked the state government to suspend paying him until the economy of the state improves because he is now the number 3 citizen? What if the state government had begged him to defer receiving the pension until it is financially stable? So many ifs.


These show the monies are just casual withdrawals by Saraki from Kwara State budget. Maybe he is claiming back money he spent on putting his cronies in position in the state.

Even if this were so, as I said above, it depends on what purpose efcc intended to achieve in bringing up the matter. Note that this is CCT not a regular court. The CCT will only concern itself on whether the income was declared by Saraki not whether he got it illegally. If the tax authority takes you to court that you failed to pay tax on income from illegal source, the court will only enforce the tax or jail you for evading tax not convict you for involvement in criminal act because tax authority will not be the prosecuting agency for such

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Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by superpundit: 2:05am On Apr 07, 2016
the statement credited to the kwara state government if care is not taken will open another of Bukola saraki's many cans of worms. what they refer to as pension had better been left as salary the way EFCC has classified it. this is because kwara indigenes all knows better. what happens is that in paying Bukola saraki's pension, kwara state government pays pittance into his account. But actually what happens is that Bukola Saraki earns 100million naira pension every blessed month. And this money is paid in a tranch of 25 million into four separate accounts in four major banks in Ilorin two of which are UBA and Zenith. this money is paid on the 29th of every month via cash lodgement. This development is not a secret in Kwara state. At a point the former Kwara State commissioner for information Mr Tunji Morohunfoye even defended Bukola saraki pension allowance claiming it is 45million and not 100million as claimed.
Re: CCT Mistook Saraki’s Pensions For Salaries – Kwara Government by senatordave1(m): 2:11am On Apr 07, 2016
His stooge abdulfatah ahmed only trying to do damage control.its too late

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