Good thing there is a gradual change in the foreign policy of the US, maybe better times are ahead. The US needs to get its acts together and attempt (even if it is difficult to do so) to be fair, objective and stop fighting unnecessary wars and wasting innocent lives.

Gettolove:

I do not like the terrorist though, but when you look closer you may sometimes wonder if there is anyone one to challenge the super power, then you may almost be convinced that only if thses bad guys can target these super powers directly, people i need help here, as i post, a bomb might have just been detonated in iraq.

Easyy:



I'd like to be told either that George 'war monger' Bush intentionally decided to obliterate the nation of Iraq or that he is an absolute daftie who thought he knew everything while most reasonable people all over the world were telling him what they thought of his planned attack at the time.

4 Play:

@Nilla

The Iraqi people are a diverse range of people of different religious sects,ethnicities and culture.In many ways Iraq is like Nigeria,it is merely a georaphical expression.

Why should I attach any weight to your You Tube Link when earlier I linked a poll which showed that 77 percent of Iraqis thought the toppling of SADDAMM was worth their suffering.

nilla:


We keep digressing from the topic.
What Bush did was wrong.

4 Play:

@Afam

I have realised the futility of arguing with an ignorant nitwit.I will not advice u to stop posting since with a brain like urs, NAIRALAND represents your best chance of a scholarship.

"U will like to be told".With that attitude u will can never form a balanced opinion of this issue.

The first 6 words of your post summarise what is wrong with your analysis of the situation.You see and hear only what u want to hear.When Nilla linked a You Tube clip,u liked what u saw and that to u was weightier evidence of the topic,much better than the scientific polls I referenced from the Brookings Iraq Index(The Brookings Instituition was against the Iraq war)

No one has met my challenge earlier to show me a poll in 2006 where Iraqis say that the toplling of Saddam was not worth it.

I don't claim that the Iraqi people want the US to stay .

My point is that given,as even Afam was prepared to admit,that the Iraqi people said that the toppling of Saddam is worth it,what is Bush to be tried for?For doing what at the time most Iraqis approved of?For subsequently staying in Iraq when he had obtained unanimous UN approval ?

Beyond that,what is the legal basis for a trial.None

I still maintain that the only reason people are interested in this conflict in the first place is because of their dislike for the US in general and Bush in particular.Where were the calls for a trial of Saddam in the 90s when he committed mass murder against the Shia and the kurds?

nilla:

@ 4 Play,
The toppling of Saddam (or the approval of the toppling of Saddam) does not justify the wrongful invasion of Iraq. Thats my opinion sha.

4 Play:

@Nilla

In so far as most Iraqis say that the toppling of Saddam was worth it,at least at the time of the invasion,it is not for u a Nigerian to say that it was wrong.Maybe u are trying to separate the invasion from the toppling of Saddam.One could not have happened without the other.

I still don't get what the content of a prosecutors case against Bush will be.It is in impractical,pointless and without precedence.

Maybe some of this energy should be diverted towards people like President Al-Bashir of Sudan

nilla:

oops! interesting. . . .
. . . Bush should have spent his energy there or finding Bin Laden  .

Easyy:

The basis for my submission on what I would like to be told by you and a few other BBS who have expressed their 'bushy' opinions is such remarks as you made earlier ;

"Make no mistake I don't think the Bush adminstration is anywhere near competent in its handling of Iraq."

With such a statement, you're either indicating that George Bush is daft in his approach or he deciced to decimate Iraq for some reason.

4 Play:

@nillaWell he did.80 percent of the humanitarian aid spent in the Sudan comes from the US.Hundreds of thousands of African Sudanese had died due to humanitarian disaster while there fellow Africans where busy obsessing over Arabs in Iraq.

Buh also coerced Al-Bashir into ending the war in the South of Sudan,through the threat of more economic sanctions and military strikes.This helped bring an end to one of Africa's longest running conflicts which had resulted in the deaths of over a million people.

Today the United States is one of the few countries that maintain economic sanctions against Sudan,which include a prohibition against US oil coys from operating there.

U might say what does this have to do with the topic .The reason why this topic arose is because of our dislike for Bush.That dislike is based mainly on his actions in the Middle-East.None of this would arise if a fuller picture arose of Bush's foreign policy.

Africans get all their info about the world from Western media,if the Western media are interested only in the Middle East because it directly affects them,then that is the only thing Africans know about. U then have the odd situation where Africans are more interested in conflicts outside Africa than conflicts in Africa.

Consequently,u get Africans starting up threads over whether Bush should face trial over Iraq,when even the Iraqis are not going about insisting that the man who toppled Saddam,should be put on trial for doing so.

But the fact still remains that he illegaly invaded Iraq and Iraq is worse off than it was before.

[What if the US goes into Sudan and got rid of the irresponsible Government and a situation arises in Sudan where the different ethnic groups continue to kill each other like we have in Iraq.  Would you still blame the U.S. for that?/quote]

@TayoD
If the US goes into Sudan ignoring and rubbishing the (well thought out) view of the generality of political analysts and do not plan for the aftermath of such an exercise then they will be blamed for causing the resulting carnage.
Ethnic groups do not just kill each other without a history. Any (smart) conqueror would want to know, and play out all scenarios before committing his Soldiers. Mr. Bush did not do this.

TayoD:

@nilla,

Can you please prove what laws that Bush illegally violated in toppling Saddam? You keep giving us your biased opinions that can not be backed by any law, international or otherwise. Easyy has shown over and over again that there is absolutely no basis to have Bush tried in a court of law, but you keep spewing out your hatred in uninformed verbiage.