Buharism:
the pentecost we rèfer to as the manifestation of the holy spirit was a divine event,

nobody knew he was speaking in tongue,

infact everybody was hearing in their own native language what the apostles were saying,

but today you cant understand what the pastor or what other church members are saying while speaking in tongue.

May the good Lord show us the way to enternal life. Amen

dolphinheart:
1 cor 14: 22-28,33

22 Tongues, then, are a sign, not for believers but for unbelievers; prophecy, however, is not for unbelievers but for believers.
23 So if the whole church comes together and everyone speaks in tongues, and inquirers or unbelievers come in, will they not say that you are out of your mind? 24 But if an unbeliever or an inquirer comes in while everyone is prophesying, they are convicted of sin and are brought under judgment by all,
25 as the secrets of their hearts are laid bare. So they will fall down and worship God, exclaiming, “God is really among you!”
26 What then shall we say, brothers and sisters? When you come together, each of you has a hymn, or a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation. Everything must be done so that the church may be built up.
27 If anyone speaks in a tongue, two—or at the most three—should speak, one at a time, and someone must interpret.
28 If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and to God.
33 For God is not a God of disorder but of peace—as in all the congregations of the Lord’s people.

Emusan:


Was it only DURING DAY OF PENTECOST speaking in tongues occurred in the Bible AND has this DIVINE EVENT stopped on the day of Pentecost?



Then do people speaking in tongues today tell you they know what they're speaking?



This is the main part you people always miss, everybody was hearing them in their OWN NATIVE language AS [size=14pt]The Spirit gave them the utterance.[/size]

You people always miss the fact that it was HOW & WHAT The Holy Spirit wants them to speak THAT they speak, it's not a PATTERN and this is an evident that The Holy Spirit has A WILL



The Bible says: "AS The Spirit gave them utterance" Why are you fighting against The WILL of the Holy Spirit?
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The Only Way to eternal life is Jesus Christ and He says "He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water, 39 But speak of the Spirit which they that BELIEVE in him should receive..."

Has this Living water sprung out of you?

uboma:



I like these.
Please tell us more.
I have also wondered the essence of speaking in tongues when no one understands what is being said...

uboma:



I like these.
Please tell us more.
I have also wondered the essence of speaking in tongues when no one understands what is being said...

Jozzy4:


can u speak in tongues exactly like the apostles did at Pentecost ? Act 2:8

Buharism:
Why do people attend speaking in tongue schools.

Adortem:

By God's grace,yes I can!

Jozzy4:


calm down, am not talking about the unintelligible version of ra ra ra bracadoshushii.

I mean pentecost, meaning if u see a Brazilian now , can u speak brazilian tongue without you learning it ?

Adortem:

It is a spiritual experience and you would not understand until you experience it. Guess what,the grace is already there,I wouldn't want to argue with you. God bless you.

Naijasinglegirl:
When I was in primary school, I use to think falling down under the anointing was a gimmick by pastors and those in their inner circle to attract new members.
I invented a game I named ‘Holy Ghost abracadaba’. I took my lessons from Christ Embassy’s atmosphere for miracles TV programme. My group of friends would laugh and chant in a fake funny tongue and each of us would drop on the ground, one after the other.

One afternoon after school, the strangest thing happened when we were at our game. I think God decided to teach us a lesson for making mockery of The Holy Spirit. One of us got slain. Adaobi began speaking in real tongues and rolling on the muddy ground helplessly.
Out of fear, we all grabbed our different school bags and took to our heels.
Next day, we avoided ourselves. Adaobi never recounted what actually happened and that marked the end of The Holy Ghost abracadaba game.

Few years after, I attended a Christ Embassy branch close to my house with my kid brother and my 7 year old cousin. Towards the end of the service, the pastor called us out to receive the gift of tongues. He spent 10 minutes on me yet nothing happened. I felt like the magnitude of my sins won’t let me receive the gift of tongues. He barely touched my bro & cousin when both of them collapsed on the ground so he walked away triumphantly.



Just when I was about believing the Holy Ghost thing is not film tricks, my brother gave me the side eyes and smiled mischievously while he was still on the ground.
My cousin, on other hand dipped his hand into the pocket, produced the cabin biscuit he was served 1 hour earlier along new members and ate it right there.
I was like, “I am done!”

From then on, we became members of Christ Embassy. I use to dread prayer sessions in church. Each member would just burst into tongues and leave me stranded. I was the only one that couldn’t speak in tongues and I always felt like I was the one that crucified Jesus. Occasionally. I would count one to twenty repeatedly in my native language remixing it with a bit of French I learnt to make it sound like I was actually speaking in tongues.
I think the pastor noticed my plight and held a special session for me one month after.
The assistant pastor and 3 members of the prayer band surrounded me. They laid hands on my head, laid hands on my chest, blew me air, beat my head, and pushed my forehead in a futile attempt to make me fall.

Odeshi!

Then my brother was given the mantle to infuse the Holy Spirit in me.
I could not laugh abeg!
When he held my hands to pray, I reminded him in whispers of how he stole fish from the soup pot the previous night, how he insulted my sisters, how he cheated me in Ludo, how he told a lie a week ago, along with other sins he has committed. He was saying ‘xxxx, please stop now and allow me to concentrate.’
He got distracted and gave up on me.

Same could be said for my university days. I attended several churches and was a worker in my fellowship but I still never believed in this outer manifestation of The Holy Spirit.
But our God is patient. (2 Peter 3:9)

During my service year, I made a resolution to draw closer to God. It wasn’t easy at first, then a small tragedy happened to me that gave me no choice but to take shield in my creator.
I prayed regularly, became active in Church and studied The Word when I could but there was still an unexplainable void that lingered. When I opened up to a friend, he sent me a couple of Kenneth Hagin books.
I read ‘The Holy Spirit & You His Gifts’ and realised why the emptiness lingered. My thoughts were open to the fact that it is possible to lack the gift of the spirit even when you are born again.
This was also tied to the belief that only big pastors like Pastor Chris or Pastor TB Joshua could make the Spirit manifest in me.
In summary, I genuinely asked God one evening with an expectant heart and he gave it to me. (Luke 11: 9-13)
I wish I could write more on this but the feeling was ineffable. My intentions at the start of this post were to describe the actual experience but I am loss for words.
Over to believers reading this. Have you received the gift of the Holy Spirit?


http://www.naijasinglegirl.com/holy-spirit-gifts/

Buharism:
the pentecost we rèfer to as the manifestation of the holy spirit was a divine event, nobody knew he was speaking in tongue, infact everybody was hearing in their own native language what the apostles were saying, but today you cant understand what the pastor or what other church members are saying while speaking in tongue.
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May the good Lord show us the way to enternal life. Amen

pamcode:
I wish to have that experience one day too.

Jozzy4:


calm down, am not talking about the unintelligible version of ra ra ra bracadoshushii.

I mean pentecost, meaning if u see a Brazilian now , can u speak brazilian tongue without you learning it ?

Amberon:
No, I haven't. Been asking for it tho.

dolphinheart:


King James Version
1Co 14:11Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be unto him that speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me.

1 cor 14: 13-19 (ESV)
13 Therefore, one who speaks in a tongue should pray that he may interpret.
14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays but my mind is unfruitful. 15 What am I to do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will pray with my mind also; I will sing praise with my spirit, but I will sing with my mind also.
16 Otherwise, if you give thanks with your spirit, how can anyone in the position of an outsider say “Amen” to your thanksgiving when he does not know what you are saying?
17 For you may be giving thanks well enough, but the other person is not being built up.
18 I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you. 19 Nevertheless, in church I would rather speak five words with my mind in order to instruct others, than ten thousand words in a tongue.

cooltobex:


Hi. At Pentecost, the apostles and others disciples spoke as the Holy Spirit gave them utterance (you could read it for yourself in Acts 2). And till today, those who genuinely speak in tongues as the Holy Spirit leads, speak as He gives utterance, don't call it "unintelligible".

What do you even mean by "unintelligible"? That's an insult on the Holy Spirit's person, you know!

There are two kinds of tongues the Holy Spirit gives.

One is a special gift of His called the "gift of diverse tongues" Or "different kinds of tongues" (1 Corinthians 12:10), this kind is for communicating with people of other languages. The Apostles and disciples needed it because they had to reach people from other parts of the world.

Then there's the kind everybody gets when they are baptised with the Holy Spirit, which Paul called "mysteries" in 1 Corinthians 14:2. His words, "For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God, for no one understands him...he speaks mysteries."

So, you see the difference? One is a special gift, given to a select number, meant for communicating with man; and the other given to everyone that's baptised for speaking "mysteries" to God which no human can understand.
Thank you.

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Do visit. Remain blessed.

cooltobex:


Hi. What point are you trying to make? Could you explain and not mislead people who may not understand, especially considering what the person you quoted posted?
Are you implying that speaking in a tongue only God understands is futile? Thank you.

dolphinheart:


sir, the disciples words on speaking in tongues are self explanatory.
when the disciples first spoke in tongues, it was said that the people who saw them do it where able to understand them!
can that be applied to the speaking in tongue of today? hope you will answer.

later when the apostles was talking about speaking in tongue in a congregation(church), he specified guidelines to be followed, do you follow it those guidelines today?

Emusan:


This is my reply to someone's post above which is a gross misunderstanding of what actually happened on the day of Pentecost.

This is the main part you people always miss, everybody was hearing them in their OWN NATIVE language [size=14pt]AS The Spirit gave them the utterance.[/size] You people always miss the fact that it was HOW & WHAT The Holy Spirit wants them to speak THAT they will speak, it's not a PATTERN forever and this is an evident that The Holy Spirit has A WILL.



Does it come to your understanding that what Apostle Paul was talking about there, is passing a message to the congregation?

Infact Apostle Paul said "For he that speaketh in an UNKNOWN TONGUES speaketh not unto men, but unto God: [size=14pt]for NO MAN UNDERSTANDETH HIM;[/size] howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries." 1Corin 14:2

Things to notice here:
1. The language is an UNKNOWN TONGUES
2. The speaker speaks not UNTO MEN but God
3. NO MAN UNDERSTANDS the speaker but you people ALWAYS PROVE that the speaker supposed to be understood every time).

My emphasis is on point 3 'NO MAN UNDERSTANDS HIM' please if what happened on the day of Pentecost is a PATTERN everyone speaking in tongues must follow why would Apostle Paul here say again that NO MAN UNDERSTANDETH HIM?

Remember, everyone (ALL MEN) in that place understood what the Apostles were saying as you stated in your post.

Emusan:


This is my reply to someone's post above which is a gross misunderstanding of what actually happened on the day of Pentecost.

This is the main part you people always miss, everybody was hearing them in their OWN NATIVE language [size=14pt]AS The Spirit gave them the utterance.[/size] You people always miss the fact that it was HOW & WHAT The Holy Spirit wants them to speak THAT they will speak, it's not a PATTERN forever and this is an evident that The Holy Spirit has A WILL.



Does it come to your understanding that what Apostle Paul was talking about there, is passing a message to the congregation?

Infact Apostle Paul said "For he that speaketh in an UNKNOWN TONGUES speaketh not unto men, but unto God: [size=14pt]for NO MAN UNDERSTANDETH HIM;[/size] howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries." 1Corin 14:2

Things to notice here:
1. The language is an UNKNOWN TONGUES
2. The speaker speaks not UNTO MEN but God
3. NO MAN UNDERSTANDS the speaker but you people ALWAYS PROVE that the speaker supposed to be understood every time).

My emphasis is on point 3 'NO MAN UNDERSTANDS HIM' please if what happened on the day of Pentecost is a PATTERN everyone speaking in tongues must follow why would Apostle Paul here say again that NO MAN UNDERSTANDETH HIM?

Remember, everyone (ALL MEN) in that place understood what the Apostles were saying as you stated in your post.

finofaya:
I hear there are people that can even sing in tongues. Like, take your average hymn and sing it in tongues. Frankly something like that would be wonderful to behold. Forget speaking in tongues.

Emusan:


This is my reply to someone's post above which is a gross misunderstanding of what actually happened on the day of Pentecost.

This is the main part you people always miss, everybody was hearing them in their OWN NATIVE language [size=14pt]AS The Spirit gave them the utterance.[/size] You people always miss the fact that it was HOW & WHAT The Holy Spirit wants them to speak THAT they will speak, it's not a PATTERN forever and this is an evident that The Holy Spirit has A WILL.

Does it come to your understanding that what Apostle Paul was talking about there, is passing a message to the congregation?

Infact Apostle Paul said "For he that speaketh in an UNKNOWN TONGUES speaketh not unto men, but unto God: [size=14pt]for NO MAN UNDERSTANDETH HIM;[/size] howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries." 1Corin 14:2

Things to notice here:
1. The language is an UNKNOWN TONGUES
2. The speaker speaks not UNTO MEN but God
3. NO MAN UNDERSTANDS the speaker but you people ALWAYS PROVE that the speaker supposed to be understood every time).

My emphasis is on point 3 'NO MAN UNDERSTANDS HIM' please if what happened on the day of Pentecost is a PATTERN everyone speaking in tongues must follow why would Apostle Paul here say again that NO MAN UNDERSTANDETH HIM?

Remember, everyone (ALL MEN) in that place understood what the Apostles were saying as you stated in your post.

MizJanet:
who is confuse ? is it You or Paul ?

please if No man is gonna understand, how will the Interpreter understand in other to interpret?

is the interpreter not a man ?

Emusan:


Neither Apostle Paul nor me is confused here but only the person who couldn't grab the message the blessed Apostle is conveying.



Then you will need to understand that there's different between SPEAKING IN TONGUES to pass message to the congregation AND SPEAKING IN TONGUES by oneself in communicating with God. Which the blessed Apostle had thoroughly explained.

If I may ask,what happened on the day of Pentecost; were ALL THE PEOPLE speaking in tongues delivering message to themselves or they were just speaking in tongues, is there any interpreter that day or they only communicate with their God?



Not ALL SPEAKING IN TONGUES need interpretation UNLESS GOD wants to pass message to the congregation through speaking in tongue, you can be praying by speaking in tongues, does that need interpreter too?

That's why if you read Apostle Paul details about speaking in tongues it dualistic 1. Using speaking in tongues to communicate to God personally & 2. God passing a message to the congregation through that medium which needs INTERPRETER but you people confused the two together.

Go back and read that 1 Corin 14:2 slowly this time.

dolphinheart:
on this thread, it's the result we are talking about, not the cause. watHever the holy spirit did or hoW it did it,

people could understand the language of those speaking in tongues.

They even mentioned some of those languages.
can that be said about those who speak in tongues today!

now Emusan, does your church follow Pauls guidelines when speaking in tongues in the congregation.?
is their an interpreter ?

does the speaker keep quiet when their is no interpreter?

now as to the verse you quoted
King James Version
1Co 14:2For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.

if you speak in a language that is not understood by men, e.g speaking in swahilI to people that only understand yoruba.

They will not understand you despite that you are speaking in tongue with the Holy spirit!, that is why in the congregation, an interpreter of the language you are speaking in tongue with is needed, so that you wunt be termed a babar Ian!

All men understood what the Apostles where saying based on their respective languages.

MizJanet:


you are doing a bad job defending the gibberish here, u keep saying 'Tongues ( plural) which points to multiple tongues or languages .

I think there was a place in the same passage where This same paul claims to speak MORE tongues than his colleagues . 3D evidence that tongues in this bible verses are languages . and not some gibberish

i found it 1 Corinth 14:18