Reyginus:
Lol. Let me explain. Time zones are nothing special but simply a creation of man. Humans thought of a way to harmonize the whether of a place, as a result of earth's rotation, with the time it will fall in another place. So, it's easy for dawn to set at 6 pm, in equinox, or some other time, in solstice, in every place.

Thanks which means that your brother that fell in the gutter may already be dead by the time you're able to reach his +1 environ from your -6 and not yet to fall in a gutter. Time continues irrespective of the time zone. So you can't use it analogously to time travel.

Reyginus:
You should call it a fantasy of science and really Philosophers. I don't think a philosopher will ever agree with such SciFi.

lol....philosophers are broader than scientist- they ask all questions- both the fantasy and the real

For now , the closest thing we have gotten to timE travel is time dilation e. G the iss which allows astronauts to experience time slowing down but only by a few milliseconds

urahara:
Jackbizzle , i see u o , long tym no see

Jackbizzle is same as Logicbwoy. . . Logical son of a Bizzle

johnydon22:


Hahahaha i see you are a staunch conspiracy theorist always suspecting everything might be a matrix. . . I get you brother.

from your last paragraph mentioning the great Pyramid or saucers, i know a lot of ancient astronauts conspiracy theorists think there are proof of alien visitation and technology.

Do you hold this idea too?
You think once extra-terrestrial beings visited?
and rubbed off some of their tech on us? (Like great Pyramid or something)?

It's tempting to say yes but I won't say so. Maybe humanity is simply repeating a cycle. There's no record of the past. I mean something like the internet with real records of what happened before. It's possible such knowledge was commonplace at the time and it's also possible they were visited. I don't really know and wouldn't lean on any side. What we call fossils might simply be what the ancient want us to see so. Sorry for disappointing you.

JackBizzle:



Reyginus, you get sense like this?

Lol. Your mumu dey make my mumu shame.

johnydon22:


Jackbizzle is same as Logicbwoy. . . Logical son of a Bizzle

JESUS CHRIST !!!!

johnydon22:


Jackbizzle is same as Logicbwoy. . . Logical son of a Bizzle

Hahaha

But Logicbwoy were you banned? Done something naughty??

urahara:


JESUS CHRIST !!!!

How did you not know?

dblackninja:

Thanks which means that your brother that fell in the gutter may already be dead by the time you're able to reach his +1 environ from your -6 and not yet to fall in a gutter. Time continues irrespective of the time zone. So you can't use it analogously to time travel.

Lololol. My brother? Chai! Smh. Okay o. Yes, time continues.

dblackninja:

Yeah bring it on

We have a thread about it on the science section maybe i should provide the link or copy to this board?

dblackninja:

Hahaha

But Logicbwoy were you banned? Done something naughty??

Spambot got me

JackBizzle:


lol....philosophers are broader than scientist- they ask all questions- both the fantasy and the real

Yes. A philosopher wouldn't agree with any SciFi except poor philosophers. But then are poor philosophers not philosophers?

Reyginus:
It's tempting to say yes but I won't say so. Maybe humanity is simply repeating a cycle. There's no record of the past. I mean something like the internet with real records of what happened before. It's possible such knowledge was commonplace at the time and it's also possible they were visited. I don't really know and wouldn't lean on any side. What we call fossils might simply be what the ancient want us to see so. Sorry for disappointing you.

lol not disappointed you choose to remain agnostic over the ancient astronaut theory, that is practically ok.

To me i have always maintained and have been ringing it into ancient astronauts theorist's ears.

That we do not know how ancient civilizations built stuffs yet doesn't mean they got help from aliens, it simply means We don't know yet …

I'm not a fan of using Ignorance as evidence for speculations like some conspiracy theorists would do

urahara:
For now , the closest thing we have gotten to timE travel is time dilation e. G the iss which allows astronauts to experience time slowing down but only by a few milliseconds

Not the same. But I got some good news for you. You don't really have to travel at their velocity in space for you to age slower..Just dig a very big pit, take enough provisions and go and leave under. I promise you when you emerges you will see that you will be younger than your mate..
Though there's just a little side effect--your head will be older than your legs
You will get this tale if you know about gravity

JackBizzle:



How did you not know?

I thought u were the legendary logic boy and not logic bwoy

Reyginus:
You should call it a fantasy of science and not really Philosophers. I don't think a philosopher will ever agree with such SciFi.

Wrong actually. There have been many examples of many scientifically impossible scenarios that sci-fi writers take up, and philosophers also philosophize about.

E.g :

1) Who would happen if your brain is transplanted? Do you move with the brain? Logic says yes. If so, are YOU a brain? Would you consider yourself a brain??

2) What will happen if you teleported from one point to another? The basic principles in teleportation is that your molecules blueprints are transported at the speed of light to another point; where they are reassembled using the requiste atoms "on the other side".

If so, how old are you then?? Are you 50 years old or just an hour old; since what makes you you was recomposed just now.....


There are many other aspects, many other impossible scenarios that one can philosophize upon, and yet make a good sci-fi novel

JackBizzle:



Spambot got me

Hehehe

johnydon22:


We have a thread about it on the science section maybe i should provide the link or copy to this board?

A link will be nice thanks

dblackninja:

Not the same. But I got some good news for you. You don't really have to travel at their velocity in space for you to age slower..Just dig a very big pit, take enough provisions and go and leave under. I promise you when you emerges you will see that you will be younger than your mate..
Though there's just a little side effect--your head will be older than your legs
You will get this tale if you know about gravity

Forgive my ignorance . i dont understand the tale p.lease axplain it to me

SirWere:

Wrong actually. There have been many examples of many scientifically impossible scenarios that sci-fi writers take up, and philosophers also philosophize about.

E.g :

1) Who would happen if your brain is transplanted? Do you move with the brain? Logic says yes. If so, are YOU a brain? Would you consider yourself a brain??

2) What will happen if you teleported from one point to another? The basic principles in teleportation is that your molecules blueprints are transported at the speed of light to another point; where they are reassembled using the requiste atoms "on the other side".

If so, how old are you then?? Are you 50 years old or just an hour old; since what makes you you was recomposed just now.....


There are many other aspects, many other impossible scenarios that one can philosophize upon, and yet make a good sci-fi novel

Lol. What do you mean by the first? I mean the transplant thing. Are you talking about moving while the brain is being operated on?

dblackninja:
A link will be nice thanks

https://www.nairaland.com/2992899/fermi-paradox

urahara:


I thought u were the legendary logic boy and not logic bwoy

Still same person Logicboy, logicbwoy, JackBizzle and any other Moniker(s) he might have in between.

Reyginus:
Lol. What do you mean by the first? I mean the transplant thing. Are you talking about moving while the brain is being operated on?

Which of the following statements will you consider correct:

I have a brain.
I am a brain.

I await your response........... Take your time

Richirich713:
@KingEbukasBlog

Lmao, here are fundy atheists present

6. You think questions like, "Can God create a rock so big that He cannot lift it?" and, "Can God will Himself out of existence?" are perfect examples of how to disprove God's omnipotence and ultimately how to disprove God. When someone proves to you the false logic behind the questions (i.e. pitting God's omnipotence against itself), you desperately try to defend the questions, but then give up and go to a different Christian site to ask them.

Lwkmd ! Epic bro !!! That was exactly was going through my mind ! ! ! I nearly got tired of repeating myself - that the question is really illogical

But that thread needs to be updated . More of such specious and illogical arguments need to be exposed .

urahara:


Forgive my ignorance . i dont understand the tale p.lease axplain it to me

What makes astronauts appear to age slower by some fractions of a second is relative velocity time dilation--time moves slower as you move faster.
Now time appears to move slower near massive objects because the object's gravitational force bends space-time. It's called gravitational time dilation--it just means time moves slower as gravity increases.

That's why time passes slower for objects closer to the center of the Earth where the gravity is stronger. So technically the more you're closer to earth's gravitational pull, the more time passes slower for you-- that's the reason for the pit analogy I gave.

dblackninja:

Not the same. But I got some good news for you. You don't really have to travel at their velocity in space for you to age slower..Just dig a very big pit, take enough provisions and go and leave under. I promise you when you emerges you will see that you will be younger than your mate..
Though there's just a little side effect--your head will be older than your legs
You will get this tale if you know about gravity

Errr......
Sorry to disappoint but your body cells have already adapted to the circadian rthythm of 24 hours, hence they age and die normally.....

Unless of course, you're talking about "getting away from wordly pollution".....

johnydon22:


https://www.nairaland.com/2992899/fermi-paradox

Woo quite interesting really, will delve into it later.

SirWere:


Errr......
Sorry to disappoint but your body cells have already adapted to the circadian rthythm of 24 hours, hence they age and die normally.....

Unless of course, you're talking about "getting away from wordly pollution".....

Not really, what he is trying to explain is much more bigger than what you might be thinking.

Gravitational dilation, the more the gravity the slower the time which makes it seem that near a blackhole (immense gravity) time slows down so much that it is nearly stopped.

If you spend 1hour in a blackhole or too near one, when you come back to earth you will see that most of your children are already grand parents.

But to you, you only spent 1hr and will still look same. . .

SirWere:


Errr......
Sorry to disappoint but your body cells have already adapted to the circadian rthythm of 24 hours, hence they age and die normally.....

Unless of course, you're talking about "getting away from wordly pollution".....

Hehehe Do you know what is awesome with the human physiology? It adapts.
It is experimentable. That doesn't mean you could spend your life in a pit or basement just to outlive others on the surface. The effect isn't noticeable on such a small scale. If you became a basement hermit, then across your entire lifetime you'd only age a fraction of a second slower than everyone else above ground.

SirWere:

Which of the following statements will you consider correct:
I have a brain. I am a brain.
I await your response........... Take your time

I have a brain.

SirWere:

Which of the following statements will you consider correct:
I have a brain. I am a brain.
I await your response........... Take your time

I have a brain.