@Pastor AIO

- Pastor AIO

First lets rewind . . .  

Because I cook, it doesnt necessarily mean am a chef

Because my neighbours cook, it doesnt necessarily make them chefs

My Mum cooks delectable & mouth-watering meals, still doesnt necessarily make her a chef . . .

My mate dons a chef's hat when cooking, that too doesnt necessarily make my mate a chef

Having a dog's collar round the neck doesnt necessarily make one a pastor

Capisce?

Pastor AIO:


Please everybody, what is the criteria to be a pastor?

Can pastorhood just be revoked like that? Na wa o!. . .

@Pastor AIO

- Pastor AIO

In a well known church that we all are somehow one way or the other too familiar with  

by and large the resident "pastors" are career (i.e. in a line of business) pastors soughting a meal ticket

They are not the genuine article

Criteria? you asked Pastor AIO

I'll show you criteria  . . .

Check out the biblical qualifications from 1 Timothy 3 (NIV) that makes a pastor <sup>NIV 

1</sup> . . . If anyone sets his heart on being an overseer, he desires a noble task.

² Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,

³ not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.

⁴ He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him with proper respect.

⁵ (If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God's church?)

⁶ He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil.

⁷ He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil's trap.

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The following are the decisive factors that make a pastor

A desire to serve - a pastor should be called by God and should want to serve (this is reinforced by the apostle Peter in his first epistle)

Blameless - calls to mind Pilate's verdict on Jesus: "I find no fault in this man."

Husband of one wife - no polygamists or bigamists allowed

Temperate - self-disciplined

Sober-minded - contemplative and not given to irrational or irresponsible thinking / behavior

Good behavior - self-explanatory

Hospitable - friendly, compassionate, and welcoming

Able to teach - kind of an obvious one

Not given to wine - a modern day application would involve any form of substance abuse (liquor, drugs, etc)

Not violent - wife-beaters need not apply, nor should anyone that is abusive

Not greedy for money - this disqualifies a great deal of most pastors out there!

Gentle and not quarrelsome - there goes Fred Phelps and quite a few more firebrand, judgmental ultra-fundamentalists!

Not covetous - includes previous admonition against greed, but also encompasses other kinds of covetousness (such as looking at other men's wives, etc.)

One who rules his own house well - if the pastor can't take care of his own family or properly raise his own kids, he's not qualified

Not a "novice" - the pastor should be spiritually and emotionally mature and at least a little seasoned and educated

and last but not the least Solid testimony and reputation

Temmiegirl:

I suggest we all be careful of what we say or assume, as everyone will give account of his/or words and actions. Also, the Bible says 'Touch not my annointed and do my prophet no harm" if u say what is wrong about a man of God, you will face the wrath of God, The Bible is clear on this issue in Matt 19 v 9- the Bible says, God hates Divorce but u can divorce ur wife if she is unfaithful, BUT you commit adultry if u re-mary. You can only re-marry if and when ur divorced wife dies. That is the Bible, Take it or Face the wrath. A WORD IS ENOUGH FOR THE WISE!

$osisi:

If I hear this scripture one more time ehn.
Ighodalu is anointed, the anointed Adeboye sacked him
so who will face that wrath?
quote the scripture within context
abeg.
See how wrath wrath dey comot your mouth.
God is a God of mercy,you've not read that part?
He will not rain fire on anyone for speaking in ignorance or for questioning some strange occurences in the Church.

AIYEKOOTO1:

God did not kill David on the roof top! neighter did God appear to saul Himself to tell him his kingship(pastorship) was over!,

Huh? What did I say? What are you saying?

Recognise:

@Pastor AIO

- Pastor AIO

First lets rewind . . .  

Because I cook, it doesnt necessarily mean am a chef

Because my neighbours cook, it doesnt necessarily make them chefs

My Mum cooks delectable & mouth-watering meals, still doesnt necessarily make her a chef . . .

My mate dons a chef's hat when cooking, that too doesnt necessarily make my mate a chef

Having a dog's collar round the neck doesnt necessarily make one a pastor

Capisce?

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@Pastor AIO

- Pastor AIO

In a well known church that we all are somehow one way or the other too familiar with  

by and large the resident "pastors" are career (i.e. in a line of business) pastors soughting a meal ticket

They are not the genuine article

Criteria? you asked Pastor AIO

I'll show you criteria  . . .

Check out the biblical qualifications from 1 Timothy 3 (NIV) that makes a pastor <sup>NIV 

1</sup> . . . If anyone sets his heart on being an overseer, he desires a noble task.

² Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,

³ not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.

⁴ He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him with proper respect.

⁵ (If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God's church?)

⁶ He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil.

⁷ He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil's trap.

---

---

The following are the decisive factors that make a pastor

A desire to serve - a pastor should be called by God and should want to serve (this is reinforced by the apostle Peter in his first epistle)

Blameless - calls to mind Pilate's verdict on Jesus: "I find no fault in this man."

Husband of one wife - no polygamists or bigamists allowed

Temperate - self-disciplined

Sober-minded - contemplative and not given to irrational or irresponsible thinking / behavior

Good behavior - self-explanatory

Hospitable - friendly, compassionate, and welcoming

Able to teach - kind of an obvious one

Not given to wine - a modern day application would involve any form of substance abuse (liquor, drugs, etc)

Not violent - wife-beaters need not apply, nor should anyone that is abusive

Not greedy for money - this disqualifies a great deal of most pastors out there!

Gentle and not quarrelsome - there goes Fred Phelps and quite a few more firebrand, judgmental ultra-fundamentalists!

Not covetous - includes previous admonition against greed, but also encompasses other kinds of covetousness (such as looking at other men's wives, etc.)

One who rules his own house well - if the pastor can't take care of his own family or properly raise his own kids, he's not qualified

Not a "novice" - the pastor should be spiritually and emotionally mature and at least a little seasoned and educated

and last but not the least Solid testimony and reputation

- Sorry to hear about your brother's bad experience

"Many pastors have destroyed my vineyard,
they have trodden my portion under foot,
they have made my pleasant portion a desolate wilderness." - Jeremiah 12:10 KJV

Izusco:

i think what the pastor did was wrong . Bible says that anybody that marries a divorcee committed adultery with the person. So the pastor has exposed his first wife to adultery and also his second wife is an adulterer for marring him.

REAL TRUTH:

Stop saying the Bible said a thing without giving the exact quotation! Read 1st Cor.7 verses 15,,,,its been quoted here several times,,,,U don't pcik up an isolated portion of the Bible to give a general or sweeping conclussion.
What about the Adultress that Jesus encountered? she had several men as husband,,,what was or is the message from her case? ofcourse,,,she would have been stoned 2 death.
The proper question here is; what has the church been doing in the last 2yrs? didn't the G.O. approved the marriage earlier on?why would a church constitution becomes even more superior than the Bible?
Somethings re actually fishy! Until the G.O. stops listening to all those so called old elders surrounding him,,,RCCG might be ending for the rocks!!! Moreso, christians should stop hinging their faith,salvation and hope on any pastor,Bishop or G.O.,,,,, In their best forms,,they re mere human beings and particularly prone to mistakes,,,and that is the reason there re too many churches and pastors everywhere in the world much more in Nigeria.Many of these pastors,Bishop and G.O. in many ways having misinterpreting the scripture.
For instance,, Deeper over the yrs has insisted having a T.V. set in your house is a SIN,,,,but in a couple of days, the Deeper Life Church would be launching a satelite T.V. station.Now the question is; how do deeper life wants people to view the messages on the Satelite T.V. station?Some people had argued this in the church, and they left the church because they felt it doesn't make sense! But today the church is launching its T.V. station!
The truth of the matter is that many of these pastors don't even know what they re doing! When U continue your walk in the LORD and spend time observing these things,,,then U would know better.What we have these days is not but RELIGION,,,and religion is a mind controlling tools that keeps U in a BOX.
At a time in RCCG,,as a lady U must always have your HEAD or HAIR covered,,,,but today,,,its a choice,,if U like to cover it fine,,,,and if not fine,,,,in the past in RCCG,,,U can't have jeans trousers on as lady,,,but today even pastors wife in RCCG puts on trousers.
Now going back to Ighodalo's saga,,,I promise U in the future God keeping us alive,,,this same scenerio would repeat itself,,,and the pastor or whoever in question would be pardoned,,,and when such happens,,,wouldn't U call it a double standard
In this case I repeat; RCCG is wrong!

yony banta:

i think the general overseer has taken a good step by sacking the pastor, how can a pastor of the glorious word of God do such.

Pastor AIO:


So is there anybody on this planet that can qualify to be a pastor.

Me personally, my biggest downfall will be the 'not given to wine' part.

I am extremely partial to generous quantities of Christ's blood.

@Pastor AIO

- Pastor AIO

". . . is there anybody on this planet that can qualify to be a pastor?" you asked

Yup there is; the criteria is there, all qualify if they so desire . . . 

The clarion call is out for all albeit few are chosen

You reckon personally, that your biggest downfall will be the "not given to wine" part

There's nothing wrong with having the odd tipple now & then

Inasmuch as its taken in moderation, not abnormally used (i.e. not abused)

Also if taken for the right reasons, at the right moment, and its right by or with GOD;

now if all the former are/were met at the same time, its not an issue, its no biggie.

You wanna "shayo"?

Check out how to shack yourself up christian style Hoo-la-la-la!

Check this out: Geting drunk in the Spirit & not in wine

Ephesians 5:18:


[size=16pt]King James Version (KJV)
And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

Contemporary English Version (CEV)
Don't destroy yourself by getting drunk, but let the Spirit fill your life.

New International Version - UK (NIVUK)
Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit.

Amplified Bible (AMP)
And do not get drunk with wine, for that is debauchery; but ever be filled and stimulated with the [Holy] Spirit.[/size]

Recognise:

@Pastor AIO

[size=12pt]"You're extremely partial to generous quantities of Christ's blood." you said

Likely out of ignorance, most christians, only drink/have Christ's blood occasionally, when conducted in "church"

So what do you mean by "your extreme partiality to a generous taking of Christ's blood" (i.e. the communion).

Do you mean you break bread and drink the communion regularly, as in everyday, to the excess etc or what? . . .

Pastor AIO:


Eucharistos is as often as I drink it, in remembrance of HIM (His imperial Majesty).

Pastor SY:

My comment goes beyond the issue of divorce to the trends I see in many ministries today. I am young pastor who has been priviledge to have been in ministry for many years and at different leadership levels so I believe I can speak with some degree of insight. Most men of God start off in ministry with a sincere heart and intention to serve God and humanity. They however begin to get into a rut when tremendous growth begins to be experienced and problem and the need for evangelism becomes pressing. The impulse then is to plant numerous churches startegically to reach this dying world. In order to plant churches, pastors must be trained. proven and released into the ministry so a bible school has to be setup. Once churches are planted complications arise because of structural issues. How do we control the pastors so they don't run off with the finances or with the congregation. Structures and new policies which will need to be modified as the ministry grows soon become established. The problem however with structure is that it is often not people sensitive. People only continue to exist as long as they do not kick the structure. Onec you tamoer with structure you are disposed of immediately. With respect to Pastor Ighodalo and I do not know the truth about the matter and chose to proceed with caution. The RCCG has a policy (structure) regarding divorce and remarriage. If he takes any step that doesn't line up with the policy, he must exit of not the pack of cards (RCCG structure) may collapse. If RRCG reviews their policy because of one person then those who would have suffered over the years and are too old to marry may feel bitter and you still will have trouble on your hands. The pharisees etc had no problem with Jesus until he began to kick the archaic pharasaical structure. he healed on the Sabbath - that was one of the fundamental pillars of Judaism. He therefore had to die or else the rulers of the temple will be looking for new jobs. The leadership of the church needs to take another look at whether or not what they are building truly glorifies God. To every pastor who has found themselves within a system that has become enshrined in legalistic structure, here is my advice. When David was in the house of Saul, the bible says he behaved himself wisely. Yet he did not allow his conscience to be seared. He still did righteously. Some of you may need to go through the house of Saul because there is Saul spirit in you and only Saul can kill Saul. You may need to go to through the house of Laban so you meet a greater than Jacob in order to experience a confrontation with the Father. Just thought to share my few thoughts on this matter.

qblaze:
I'm very saddened by this action because our G.O has many secret wives but nobody forced him to leave the church. Everybody knows that Sandra, one of the prettiest choristers in RCCG is the G.O's girlfriend. It is not fair to apply double standards in the house of the Lord.