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Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by OrlandoOwoh(m): 10:27am On May 25, 2016
Opharhe:
Yes. Just like the crown of Oyo, Katsina, etc. Do you know Awolowo's western region govt. Dethroned a seating Alaafin? Surprised right? Nigeria is a federal REPUBLIC. All the crowns are subject to the Nigerian states. That is the plain fact.
In around 2010, Governor Mimiko of Ondo State dethroned the Deji of Akure for beating the Queen.

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Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by Abdul4trust1(m): 10:28am On May 25, 2016
mrvitalis:
Nigerian government need to do a lot of sensitisation of it people, this mass ignorance is getting too much

They don't know the governor can appoint any body as oba of Benin and nothing will happen? ?

Read they won't
he Can Only Approve Not Appoint Based On The Established Rules And Tradition Of The People In Line With The Provisions Of The State Law.

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Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by Nobody: 10:29am On May 25, 2016
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OrlandoOwoh:

You're ignorant. Didn't the then Governor of Edo State, Capt. Ibe Onyearegbulem suspend the Oba of Benin?
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Complete the story, please. How did he and his family end up? Are you aware that he begged to be and was carried down in his helpless pitiable condition to seek Oba's forgiveness? Obaship is by Divine right. Go read up before running around with half distorted moonlight tales.

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Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by perryy(m): 10:33am On May 25, 2016
mrvitalis:
Nigerian government need to do a lot of sensitisation of it people, this mass ignorance is getting too much

They don't know the governor can appoint any body as oba of Benin and nothing will happen? ?

Read they won't

Keep ur stinking mouth shut. Even the white men that moved ovomamen to calabar wanted to appoint obaseki as the Oba bit they were vehemently resisted till they respected the law of the land by allowing the His first son to succeed him . Ordinary governor can't do what the white men couldn't do. Ask Oyalegbulem what he saw in Benin when he suspended the Oba. Do you think this is one of yoruba obas?

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Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by Nobody: 10:34am On May 25, 2016
cekhoe:
I was surprised too,my grandma never mentioned that part to me,but that Ogun part got me laughing, hehehehe ivbiédo, wa tié Ogun gbe

Ovbiedo kpataki... cheesy cheesy

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Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by Nobody: 10:37am On May 25, 2016
perryy:


Keep ur stinking mouth shut. Even the white men that moved ovomamen to calabar wanted to appoint obaseki as the Oba bit they were vehemently resisted till they respected the law of the land by allowing the His first son to succeed him . Ordinary governor can't do what the white men couldn't do. [/b]Ask Oyalegbulem what he saw in Benin when he suspended the Oba.[b] Do you think this is one of yoruba obas?

They will never respond to this. cheesy cheesy That man ended up miserably and tragically.

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Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by OrlandoOwoh(m): 10:39am On May 25, 2016
WiseBully:
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Complete the story, please. How did he and his family end up? Are you aware that he begged to be and was carried down in his helpless pitiable condition to seek Oba's forgiveness? Obaship is by Divine right. Go read up before running around with half distorted moonlight tales.
Was the Oba suspended or not?

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Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by perryy(m): 10:41am On May 25, 2016
peacecoy:
The system we have in Nigeria is that if Edo state governor do not accept the person forwarded to him by the traditional council or whatever new oba of Benin cannot emerge nor function! punchline is that Edo state governor can REMOVE the Benin monarch if the situation warrant. meanwhile Benin people go emotional as much as they want it doesn't, change anything

Make your father a governor and tell him to remove the Oba of Benin and let him witness the mysterious death of all his children ,including you, before he finally gets decayed alive just like Ibe Onyearegbulem.

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Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by Opharhe: 10:43am On May 25, 2016
OrlandoOwoh:

In around 2010, Governor Mimiko of Ondo State dethroned the Deji of Akure for beating the Queen.
Abi o. I heard of it too. Governors are the bosses. Well, with this development, people who hitherto didn't know will now know that the chieftancy institution of traditional rulers is under the state as far as Nigeria is concerned.

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Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by dukie25: 10:43am On May 25, 2016
neocortex:

And you just contradicted yourself,
in this current dispensation the oba has no real power,
apart from the oba appointed chiefs, there are no positons
subservient to the oba.
It is important you separate history from current happenings.

What do you think will happen if the government fails to approve
the oba's appointment

Nothing would happen if Oshiomhole fails to recognize the new Oba.
If Oshiomhole refused to recognized the new Oba good but he can't make any other person Oba as long as the first son is alive.
You can't have another Oba when the Oba is alive, the son can only ascend the throne at the demise of his father.

Only Benin chiefs can stop the enthronement of Prince Eheneden from being made the Oba of Benin.
The sultan of Sokoto was dethroned for disagreeing with government, that can't happen in Edo state.

Lastly, the power of the Oba is not what is in dispute here but appointment.
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by Nobody: 10:46am On May 25, 2016
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OrlandoOwoh:

Was the Oba suspended or not?
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Cc: perryy
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by noel76(m): 10:51am On May 25, 2016
ogmask:


It is a misnormal, not in Benin. In Benin the king is born. The crown Prince is an Oba in waiting with or without govt staff of office. You can only talk of appointment when the throne is not hereditary. If you read that portion the ARABIAN quoted, you will discover that govt do not appoint traditional rulers, they only recognise.
The making of an Oba in Benin is an age long tradition that even politics cannot alter.
Some went to school but they lack basic comprehension, of which if not well managed can lead to chaos.
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abeg tell them
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by 6tuz2468(m): 10:52am On May 25, 2016
[quote author=ojuu4u post=45944632][/quote]may God help our nation nija
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by delightf(f): 10:54am On May 25, 2016
etcme:
I just dey observe..... Adams oya come and tell them the meaning of your name
funny..........................
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by Opharhe: 10:56am On May 25, 2016
WiseBully:


They will never respond to this. cheesy cheesy That man ended up miserably and tragically.
That's a different ball game entirely. It borders on the spiritual. It doesn't change the facts we have on ground based on the constitution. Lemme ask you. Did anything happen when Oba Ovonramwen Nogbaisi was dethroned by the British?
Note: I love, respect and admire the Benin monarchy as an ardent believer in the Africanist ideology.
But facts are facts. The Edo state govt. is on course as far as this issue is concerned and so should not attract this kind of criticisms as contained in this post.

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Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by mckenzie25: 10:59am On May 25, 2016
U most be talking from your ass hole...if they do that in or village...pls let it remain dia....in Edo state...the governor does not have d right....
phemmyutd:
Most of we Nigerian youth lack knowledge of the constitution. So these these Edo youth do not know that the Governor has the right to appoint a king?
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by OlaoChi: 11:00am On May 25, 2016
Edo people are just too problematic

everyone knows that governors cannot appoint traditional rulers but their assension must be confirmed by the state government under the greater Federal government.


did these youths "scream out" like this when the British colonial government confirmed the appointment of Oba Eweka II in 1914?

Edo people need to understand that Bini kingdom is now part of Edo State under the administration of the State Government and not the Oba’s traditional council

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Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by mckenzie25: 11:02am On May 25, 2016
Dey really don't know....and dey don't want to b educated...

Nothing would happen if Oshiomhole fails to recognize the new Oba.
If Oshiomhole refused to recognized the new Oba good but he can't make any other person Oba as long as the first son is alive.
You can't have another Oba when the Oba is alive, the son can only ascend the throne at the demise of his father.
Only Benin chiefs can stop the enthronement of Prince Eheneden from being made the Oba of Benin.
The sultan of Sokoto was dethroned for disagreeing with government, that can't happen in Edo state.
Lastly, the power of the Oba is not what is in dispute here but appointment. [/quote]
phemmyutd:
Most of we Nigerian youth lack knowledge of the constitution. So these these Edo youth do not know that the Governor has the right to appoint a king?
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by rhektor(m): 11:03am On May 25, 2016
Businessideas:
Very funny.A King that's a tenant of the Ogiame? undecided
[b]
Its been proven again. The best historical secrets are revealed when the Royal fathers bicker or jostle publicly (often on newspaper pages, and in the legal courts) for power, or for the throne . The current race to wear the Bini crown sees a Bini version of history agreeing with Yoruba history . This version has Oranmiyan visiting Benin and establishing a new ruling house, as the Yoruba have always maintained. By the way, Oranmiyan, was a grandson ofOduduwa, the great Yoruba warrior king deity. His father was Okanbi, Oduduwa’s only son Oranmiyan was one of 16 grandchildren, which are named in this partial family tree . The Yoruba hold that Oranmiyan bore a son with a Bini woman, and this son was the first Oba of Benin. More recently there’s been a new and controversial claim from some Bini quarters that it was the other way round and Oduduwa was a runaway Bini slave who founded Ile Ife, and who later sent his son/grandson to rule in Benin!
“The Ekiokpagha treaty is the compulsory rent a new Oba-elect must pay before he is pronounced an Oba of Benin kingdom and before he is also allowed occupation of the Benin kingdom leased to Oba Eweka 1 by Ogiamien Erebo in 12.00AD.” “The Ekiokpagha treaty clearly defined the status of Ogiamien as aborigine and permanent landlord while the Oba of Benin kingdom as a permanent tenant,”
High Chief Monday Wehere, director of information and external affairs of the Ogiamien family said on Tuesday.
“The Ogiamien is the custodian of the 32 previous Ogisos that had ruled Igodomigodo and the aborigine Binis for over 300 years before the forceful introduction of obaship against the decision of the aborigine Binis while the Oba of Benin (the family) are descendants of the sixth Ooni of Ife, Oba Oranmiyan, the son of Okanbi. “Therefore, it would be difficult for Ogiamien to pledge allegiance to an invader – Oba of Benin – who is also a tenant,” “Oba Eweka dynasty has no relationship whatsoever with the Ogiso/Ogiamien dynasty and they are now forcing themselves into our dynasty by fraudulently claiming that Prince Eheneden Erediauwa is now the 70th ruler of Benin kingdom.”
“This is completely false. THEY ARE DESCECEDANTS OF ORANMIYAN ,” In bolded above is what the Yoruba tradition has always stated.The practice of sending the heads of demised Oba of Bini to Ile Ife was apparently stopped in a bid to hide the history it has been claimed . History can never be re-written.
https://www.naij.com/832915-controversy-crown-prince-eheneden-erediuwa-tenant-benin-kingdom.html

You can also read VANGUARD NEWS, of Tuesday, May 17th for complete story.

https://www.nairaland.com/3117938/family-late-oba-benin-tenants#45843981[/b]

They will not tell the truth but will prefer to hide it for a reason selfish reason best known to them.
Whatever the case you can't rewrite history you can only be a part of it or at best create one
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by Opharhe: 11:05am On May 25, 2016
mckenzie25:
U most be talking from your ass hole...if they do that in or village...pls let it remain dia....in Edo state...the governor does not have d right....
Bros, take am easy. I'm related to Benin but the truth remains that traditional rulers in Nigeria are under states govts. A governor has the power to dethrone a King. It may be a sad reality to some people but it's the fact.
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by ojuu4u(m): 11:05am On May 25, 2016
WiseBully:
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There is so much you do not know. This is Bini issue, ask or look away.

peak of ignorant. I tink i ve to stop replyin u . Benin is just a part (town) within state. I ve never seen or heard whr part is greater than d whole. Bye
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by neocortex: 11:07am On May 25, 2016
dukie25:


Nothing would happen if Oshiomhole fails to recognize the new Oba.
If Oshiomhole refused to recognized the new Oba good but he can't make any other person Oba as long as the first son is alive.
You can't have another Oba when the Oba is alive, the son can only ascend the throne at the demise of his father.

Only Benin chiefs can stop the enthronement of Prince Eheneden from being made the Oba of Benin.
The sultan of Sokoto was dethroned for disagreeing with government, that can't happen in Edo state.

Lastly, the power of the Oba is not what is in dispute here but appointment.

If Oshiomole fails to recognize the oba that means Benin have no oba
and oshiomole can nominate anybody he deemed fit, he has legal backing.

To the bold, It has happened before(ovoramen) and it can still happen again.
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by neocortex: 11:10am On May 25, 2016
WiseBully:


They will never respond to this. cheesy cheesy That man ended up miserably and tragically.

The question is "can the oba be dethroned , not what happens afterward.
Any body can fall sick, there is nothing special about it.
The british did it, Oyalegbulem did it, yet you are still claiming invincibility for the oba.
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by 2n2k(m): 11:11am On May 25, 2016
WiseBully:
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Complete the story, please. How did he and his family end up? Are you aware that he begged to be and was carried down in his helpless pitiable condition to seek Oba's forgiveness? Obaship is by Divine right. Go read up before running around with half distorted moonlight tales.

Story for the gods. Oba of Benin Erediauwa was the only traditional ruler in nigeria history to be summoned to court to give evidence on electoral dispute.

In 1991, the Governorship election tribunal summoned him to defend himself against allegation of election rigging in favour of Oyegun against Igbinedion. He trekked from his palace to the tribunal. Nothing negative happened to Justice Lateef Dosunmu that summoned him till today.
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by neocortex: 11:12am On May 25, 2016
WiseBully:
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Get enlightened, the ascension to Bini Obaship cannot be influenced by anyone including your president.
That must be an irony, because an enlightened person should
know that it is government's recognition that makes one an oba not some
prehistoric principles.
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by OBAGADAFFI: 11:16am On May 25, 2016
saintdennis:


ROTFL... even the esama that had issues with the late oba know wetin him eye see., he used every tool available to beg until he was pardoned.

Now any governor that ever tries to remove a sitting oba won't last 7days on earth. Him and his family.

Only a bini man knows what I mean

Duh,

All and what happened to once that has tried it .
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by Jesusloveyou: 11:25am On May 25, 2016
[quote author=ojuu4u post=45944786is benin not part ofnigeria?Unfortunately, U lack basic comprehension of consitiution. Let me tel u bitter truth. A sitting governor is the boss of all kings in his state. Benin kingdom inclusive[/quote]u are not get the point, u cant approve or appoint bini monarch, no ruling house is dragging the throne, is hereditary, what happen in kano and ife is not the same in bini, even if the new oba join his ancestor today, his little son wil become the king. the constitution can
http://www.nairaland.com/

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Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by saintdennis(m): 11:26am On May 25, 2016
OBAGADAFFI:


Duh,

All and what happened to once that has tried it .


No governor has ever tried it or will ever try it...
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by Neyomickey1: 11:27am On May 25, 2016
I don't see any reason for argument here. The official statement from government says 'approved' and which is official. Oba of Benin is hereditary but still need approval and hand over of staff of office from the state government.
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by Xano(m): 11:29am On May 25, 2016
ojuu4u:


is benin not part of nigeria? Unfortunately, u ar victim of what u quoted. U lack basic comprehension of consitiution. Let me tel u bitter truth. A sitting governor is the boss of all kings in his state. Benin kingdom inclusive

Interesting

Ooni Of Ife, Oba of Onitcha, Oba of Lagos, among other kings(kalibari kidngdom inclusive) and Obas, where they recognise by a sitting Governor or appointed?

I hope you are from Edo/Benin, if not, don't meddle in what is none of your business.
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by Nobody: 11:34am On May 25, 2016
WiseBully:


His son takes over. It's hereditary, father to son. Bini traditional institution is more well-defined and structured than the Nigeria system.

But the Nigerian system superceeds whatever u local champions are championing there.
If the country enacts a law that u lots should be wiped off from the map with ur king, so be it.
Whether born with it isn't the matter here but the supremacy of Nigeria constitution. Even the oba knows his boundaries. If he dares goes against the laws of the land ( eg killing for ritual purposes publicly) he will surely spend the rest of his life in kirikiri.
Bini empire has since fallen to British empire and all such powers are resident in the hands of Nigeria govt and her laws.
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by egunjeman2(m): 11:37am On May 25, 2016
[quote author=ojuu4u post=45944632][

/quote. Wrong wrong,
In Benin kingdom kings are born not made/appointment.

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