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Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by Stuntkid172(m): 1:06pm On May 29, 2016 |
freecocoa:maka etu isi ekwu okwu, adirom sure na imara ihe ina ekwu 1 Like |
Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:07pm On May 29, 2016 |
Kay17: The death of Christ is of spiritual significance . There would be the loss of blood when nailed to a cross .
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Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:10pm On May 29, 2016 |
Kay17: They would be judged according to their works . You have asked me this question before na . You don forget ? Are these questions being asked perfunctorily - asked every time , over and over again - like a routine |
Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by Kay17: 1:11pm On May 29, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: what is the blood for? |
Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:15pm On May 29, 2016 |
Kay17: The loss of his blood / pain /suffering on the cross are of spiritual significance Would the next question be 'what spiritual significance' ? |
Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by JackBizzle: 2:06pm On May 29, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Lol so Paul came to west Africa? |
Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by tosinjay(m): 2:24pm On May 29, 2016 |
Why is it that, today sunday, instead of getting positives we're getting negative posts in fp. This kindle agenda is very ill. |
Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by KingEbukasBlog(m): 2:34pm On May 29, 2016 |
JackBizzle: Smh . You no well |
Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by Sidoka: 2:40pm On May 29, 2016 |
freecocoa: My response was because u said what does a jew have to do with a (black man) |
Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by Kay17: 2:41pm On May 29, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: But you just said there is no true righteousness without Christ, or does God accept their false righteousness? Or probably you don't understand the significance of what you said. |
Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by Sidoka: 2:43pm On May 29, 2016 |
lepasharon: I just wanted to make her research and see the connection between a jew and a black man,how do u begin to tackle the problem of reading and understanding the bible if u dont know basic history |
Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by lepasharon(f): 2:47pm On May 29, 2016 |
Sidoka: Lol so you believe the story is fictional? |
Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by Kay17: 2:49pm On May 29, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: But pains and suffering, and blood loss don't ordinarily have spiritual significance so why does Jesus's own have? |
Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by KingEbukasBlog(m): 2:51pm On May 29, 2016 |
Kay17: Obviously in this dispensation na . Those before Christ would be judged according to their works . |
Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by KingEbukasBlog(m): 2:52pm On May 29, 2016 |
Kay17: Because he is God . He came with a purpose . |
Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by Kay17: 2:57pm On May 29, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: But the value of their works would be useless since it was impossible to attain true righteousness with Jesus Christ. So they are supposedly condemned! |
Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by Kay17: 2:58pm On May 29, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Jesus is God dying for God sitting on the right side of God? |
Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:01pm On May 29, 2016 |
Kay17: Then it was through done differently , burnt offerings and what have you but now it's with Christ . So true righteousness was validated differently but now it's with Christ . |
Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:03pm On May 29, 2016 |
Kay17: There are three members of the Godhead - Yahweh , Jesus and the Holy Spirit . Yahweh is addressed as the father , Jesus as the Son and the Holy Spirit as the Spirit of God/Comforter . These three are one . |
Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by Kay17: 3:19pm On May 29, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Who changed the validation process? God? What was the intention behind changing it? |
Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by Kay17: 3:19pm On May 29, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: So God has blood and feels pains? |
Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by MrImole: 3:25pm On May 29, 2016 |
freecocoa: It must be very hard for you. |
Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:27pm On May 29, 2016 |
Kay17: Jesus , came as God in human flesh - dual-natured . So he faced the travails of being human 1 Like |
Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:29pm On May 29, 2016 |
Kay17: Yeah . John 3 :16 |
Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by Sidoka: 3:33pm On May 29, 2016 |
lepasharon:Now u got me all confused with ur lol.....what story is fictional and i dont remember u asking me if i thought the story was fictional and why would i ask her to do her research if i thought the story was fictional? |
Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by Nobody: 3:40pm On May 29, 2016 |
vargasvictory:It's a day and half-not 3. |
Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by Kay17: 7:44pm On May 29, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: KingEbukasBlog: To what purpose was the validation changed? Do you mean that every pain, blood, tears, word, laughter of Jesus acquires a spiritual significance because he is divine right? @gombs I'm surprised that to you implicit is synonymous with absolutely. Nonetheless you have to agree that by God's permission, evil exists. For evil to exist without God's permission would God is not absolutely. |
Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:18pm On May 29, 2016 |
Kay17: The same purpose . Just that things got done differently . Do you mean that every pain, blood, tears, word, laughter of Jesus acquires a spiritual significance because he is divine right? Not every na . The travails of the cross |
Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by Kay17: 9:06pm On May 29, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: 1. The purpose has changed because people lost the power to be righteous by themselves without Christ. The present validation is even worse. 2. This travails of the cross is special because it was only Jesus or because of Jesus and the cross? |
Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:18pm On May 29, 2016 |
Kay17: Its your opinion . Its better by the way . The purpose is the same - to save mankind . 2. This travails of the cross is special because it was only Jesus or because of Jesus and the cross? Because He is God but humbled him to face such difficulties and sufferings . His experiences are of spiritual significance . E.g The stripes - for our healing . The shedding of his blood - for the cleansing of sin . The suffering - for us to be of good cheer and enjoy a good life etc / |
Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by Kay17: 9:46pm On May 29, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: 1. How is the same?! More people who could have saved themselves by their own salvation are condemned because God wanted to make Jesus's sacrifice useful. 2. Now if I commit premeditated murder, what is the natural connection between my act and Jesus's suffering on the cross. |
Re: The Mystery Of Sins And Forgiveness by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:22pm On May 29, 2016 |
Kay17: Can you stop getting up dander up ? Its the same . Pre- Christ era Use of animal sacrifice for sin cleansing if you know God . Judged according to your self- righteousness if you dont know God . Post-Christ era Accept Christ as Lord and Savior for sin cleansing if you know God . Judged according to your self- righteousness if you didn't receive the Gospel 2. Now if I commit premeditated murder, what is the natural connection between my act and Jesus's suffering on the cross. I dont get this question . But if you mean , the connection of sin and the significance of Christ's death then the connection is that you are remitted from paying for your sin |
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