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Re: Buhari: Confab Report Is For The Archives - Confab Delegates Reacts by chimaobinelson(m): 8:55am On Jun 04, 2016
PassingShot:

This is exactly my position.

How can any sane being expect PMB to implement a report of national conference he was opposed to right from beginning.

How can any rational person expect an APC govt that was not part of the conference to implement it's report they were never part of?

Many of us react to issues emotionally instead of pragmatically.

Emancipate urself from mental slavery,until u begin to look beyound political boundries n segregative mindset and learn that perenial trees are planted for the future n unborn..the APC refused partaking oda wel meaning parties n ppl from all works of life n differences dropd thier guard n join in d historic august confab.d APC is stil battling with ego so as not to be considerd as no true agender for comming to power..let it not be that they r building 100%on the foundation of their rival predecessors since their prolific war on BH (dea popular achievmnt)has bein with procurments of GEJ constructivly PMB shudnt do away wit d confab in toto jus becos of strike actions dt preceeds it..i hope i made som point
Re: Buhari: Confab Report Is For The Archives - Confab Delegates Reacts by engrchykae(m): 8:58am On Jun 04, 2016
HOW SOME NIGERIANS EXPECT THE SON OF OTHMAN DAN FODIO TO IMPLEMENT THE CONFAB SURPRISE ME.
ITS AGAINST THE INTEREST OF THE NORTH:JUNAID MUHAMMAD.
Re: Buhari: Confab Report Is For The Archives - Confab Delegates Reacts by Donkaz(m): 9:00am On Jun 04, 2016
This man is a complete joke.

So he is abandoning the confab report on the basis that ASUU was on strike at the time.

9billion naira wasted !!

Nigeria in shambles!!
Re: Buhari: Confab Report Is For The Archives - Confab Delegates Reacts by shaqhead: 9:02am On Jun 04, 2016
ElCount:
People are really stupid, you want nigeria to remain united, and you don't want the president to implement the confab or restructure the country even when its obvious that the confab will solve the problems facing the country presently.

Imagine someone saying gmb shouldn't implement it because he opposed it right from the outset, isn't that an indication that you don't use your brains? Pmb was against a lot of things during the GEJ regime which he has subscribed to because its the right thing to do, things like; the fight against boko haram, The Subsidy, etc Even the TSA was GEJs' idea

A lot of idiots in this country
What u opined is wrong on a whole lot of fronts
1. The issue of the confab report not having the legal backing (NO FORCE OF LAW) as it stands is jst what is-a document with RECOMMENDATIONS! This is the death knell of that document as the National assembly will be its. burial ground. Even GEJ was advised on that but its obvios that political expediency had free reign over and above the propriety of that course of action! Buhari cant dust that document and implement without it been debated by the house! Does the PIB bill come to mind, what has become of it?

Do not forget that the National assembly never bought into the idea of the conference and they made that abundantly clear. If GEJ had to wait till 2 days to the end of his tenure before he sent it to the national assembly in a PDP dominated house, and it wasnt looked at for a second, tells u so much that he knows it wont go anywhere beyond the archives!

2. Point of correction: The TSA is "nobody's" idea not even GEJ's but it has always bn a part of our constitution but its implementation was never done until now! Maybe u are confusin BVN for TSA!

3. The arguments for and against the removal of subsidy predates GEJ but it was in GEJ's was there the first genuine attempt to remove the fraud called subsidy. The "what" and the "how" is now history!

Lets try to be civil and less emotional in our arguments and instead of channeling our energy on PMB, we should get in touch with our Senators and Reps on this issue like we did on the budget! If we can get substantial commitment from them!Then, maybe we can blow the rooof off PMBs head!

Goodmornin

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Re: Buhari: Confab Report Is For The Archives - Confab Delegates Reacts by Codes151(m): 9:03am On Jun 04, 2016
tobimillar:
Why the person wey organize the confab no implement am before him commot for office? That is my grouse.. GEJ had months after confab to implement it, but he played politics with it till he left office why then should I blame PMB
do u even know what it means? You don't gather a report and jump into implementing! Buhari should atleast go through it or encourage more debate to it and well as new ideas
Re: Buhari: Confab Report Is For The Archives - Confab Delegates Reacts by Codes151(m): 9:06am On Jun 04, 2016
shaqhead:

What u opined is wrong on a whole lot of fronts
1. The issue of the confab report not having the legal backing (NO FORCE OF LAW) as it stands is jst what is-a document with RECOMMENDATIONS! This is the death knell of that document as the National assembly will be its. burial ground. Even GEJ was advised on that but its obvios that political expediency had free reign over and above the propriety of that course of action! Buhari cant dust that document and implement without it been debated by the house! Does the PIB bill come to mind, what has become of it?

Do not forget that the National assembly never bought into the idea of the conference and they made that abundantly clear. If GEJ had to wait till 2 days to the end of his tenure before he sent it to the national assembly in a PDP dominated house, and it wasnt looked at for a second, tells u so much that he knows it wont go anywhere beyond the archives!

2. Point of correction: The TSA is "nobody's" idea not even GEJ's but it has always bn a part of our constitution but its implementation was never done until now! Maybe u are confusin BVN for TSA!

3. The arguments for and against the removal of subsidy predates GEJ but it was in GEJ's was there the first genuine attempt to remove the fraud called subsidy. The "what" and the "how" is now history!

Lets try to be civil and less emotional in our arguments and instead of channeling our energy on PMB, we should get in touch with our Senators and Reps on this issue like we did on the budget! If we can get substantial commitment from them!Then, maybe we can blow the rooof off PMBs head!

Goodmornin
you maybe be right, you may be wrong! Truth is this country na wa! No transparency!
Re: Buhari: Confab Report Is For The Archives - Confab Delegates Reacts by PassingShot(m): 9:08am On Jun 04, 2016
chimaobinelson:

Emancipate urself from mental slavery,until u begin to look beyound political boundries n segregative mindset and learn that perenial trees are planted for the future n unborn..the APC refused partaking oda wel meaning parties n ppl from all works of life n differences dropd thier guard n join in d historic august confab.d APC is stil battling with ego so as not to be considerd as no true agender for comming to power..let it not be that they r building 100%on the foundation of their rival predecessors since their prolific war on BH (dea popular achievmnt)has bein with procurments of GEJ constructivly PMB shudnt do away wit d confab in toto jus becos of strike actions dt preceeds it..i hope i made som point

Counter this, especially pont 2 and the last paragraph or keep quiet.

PassingShot:

Let's leave emotions out of it and approach this issue with logical reasoning.

1. A national conference cannot be said to be credible without the input of all sections of the country and that of the main opposition party.

2. The legal backing must be in place for such conference to stand the test of time. In this case, it lacked the legal backing. Not in the constitution and not backed by any bill to the NASS. So, at best, the one GEJ did was a political conference for political ends.

3. PMB never campaigned with it. It was PDP/GEJ that campaigned with it. As such, it amounts to self-deceit for anyone to expect a president and his party that never believed in that jamboree to come on board and implement a report that was a product of political calculations and not of nation building.

Remember also that GEJ did not show any readiness to implement that report. My deduction is based on the fact that he only managed to send the report to Senate just two days to the end of his tenure (May 27th, 2015 to be precise) http://thewillnigeria.com/news/jonathan-sends-2014-national-conference-report-to-national-assembly/. A report that was submitted to him on August 21, 2014. Do you sincerely think GEJ would have done anything with that political report?

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Re: Buhari: Confab Report Is For The Archives - Confab Delegates Reacts by sokera: 9:15am On Jun 04, 2016
KissCODE:
people like you are the reason why PMB is so sick today.
People like you are the reason why NDA, IPOB, Fulani herdsmen & other forms militancy is raising PMB‘s blood presure.
People like you are the reason why PMB might end up breaking Nigeria into multiple particules.

It is just bad that PMB does not listen to those that will tell him the present day reality.
I expect you to answer that simple question , why did GEJ leave office without implementing the so called report ?

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Re: Buhari: Confab Report Is For The Archives - Confab Delegates Reacts by Doncharis(m): 9:15am On Jun 04, 2016
He didn't even bother to read it, that's why you can never learn despite your age... the 2014 national confab, was something all Nigeria is represented at so, you can't just throw it out. Whether you like it or not you are duty bound to implement it, any move against that will signal to Nigerians that you don't have their interest at heart. My opinion
Re: Buhari: Confab Report Is For The Archives - Confab Delegates Reacts by PassingShot(m): 9:16am On Jun 04, 2016
engrchykae:
would you prefer if you are called by another name like sh*t
That moniker is already banned. Watch your mouth. This place is not for untrained touts.

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Re: Buhari: Confab Report Is For The Archives - Confab Delegates Reacts by duality(m): 9:18am On Jun 04, 2016
PassingShot:

This is exactly my position.

How can any sane being expect PMB to implement a report of national conference he was opposed to right from beginning.

How can any rational person expect an APC govt that was not part of the conference to implement it's report they were never part of?

Many of us react to issues emotionally instead of pragmatically.


And his position about Subsidy?

Plz STFU
Re: Buhari: Confab Report Is For The Archives - Confab Delegates Reacts by Rexyl(m): 9:18am On Jun 04, 2016
My take on the national conference is that the report must be implemented if TSA and BVN of Jonathan policy can be implemented.


Opinions, political, religious, and various interest groups were involved in the National Conference. Therefore the report shouldn't be discarded for the country to move forward

@apc
@pdp
@all
Re: Buhari: Confab Report Is For The Archives - Confab Delegates Reacts by sokera: 9:18am On Jun 04, 2016
From the report it shows this report as been concluded for implementation since 2014, and why did GEJ not implement it before leaving office ? Can someone answer this question Again Why did GEJ not implement the report before leaving office in 2015?

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Re: Buhari: Confab Report Is For The Archives - Confab Delegates Reacts by PassingShot(m): 9:20am On Jun 04, 2016
[s]
duality:


And his position about Subsidy?

Plz STFU
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Re: Buhari: Confab Report Is For The Archives - Confab Delegates Reacts by Bethelwealthy(m): 9:22am On Jun 04, 2016
.........does he ever take good advice? Hmmmmmmmn, let me think.................NO! he doesnt. cry.........
Re: Buhari: Confab Report Is For The Archives - Confab Delegates Reacts by Rexyl(m): 9:24am On Jun 04, 2016
sokera:
I expect you to answer that simple question , why did GEJ leave office without implementing the so called report ?

He would implement the report if second term was possible. Let me ask you. Why PMB implemented TSA and BVN which were also introduced by Jonathan but not yet implemented before his exit? Jonathan indeed had policies to lead the country in the right direction, take it or leave it.
Re: Buhari: Confab Report Is For The Archives - Confab Delegates Reacts by teemy(m): 9:26am On Jun 04, 2016
One question. If every state in the stride for excellence was in control of its own resources (petroleum included) and only paid taxes to the federal government and was in control of its own police would nigeria be better off today?

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Re: Buhari: Confab Report Is For The Archives - Confab Delegates Reacts by kernel501: 9:28am On Jun 04, 2016
Adminisher:
I just love this President. The confab was an after thought by Jonathan to deflect attention away from corruption allegations against his government and his terrible performance against Boko Haram. In the heat of the pressure he hurriedly put together a jamboree that produced nothing. Abacha 's own was also the sane.

Let the National Assembly do their jobs. They can ammendments the constitution incrementally without the President. It is not in Buhari's oath of office and targets to restructure Nigeria. He did not promise it and he won't do it. Let our elected reps do the needful if they are really up to it

He promise to take us into recession, stone ago of darkness and societal choes.
Re: Buhari: Confab Report Is For The Archives - Confab Delegates Reacts by Nnemuka(f): 9:32am On Jun 04, 2016
when Biafra comes (In Jesus name, Amen)
and If Osibanjo becomes the president of Nigeria(i dont know how it will happen), i see him as the only sane man that will implement the confab report. No Hausa fulani will agree to go back to farm especially now that they all have tasted crude oil.
Re: Buhari: Confab Report Is For The Archives - Confab Delegates Reacts by Kei144(m): 9:38am On Jun 04, 2016
They don't know that Nigeria is owned by Fulani.
Re: Buhari: Confab Report Is For The Archives - Confab Delegates Reacts by ceejay4real(m): 9:45am On Jun 04, 2016
I just confirmed from his utterance about the Confab Report that Buhari is a FABULOUS DUNCE, no wonder he had F9 in Mathematics in his purported WASC results! Nigeria is truly in trouble with this kind of person at the helm. God help us!
Re: Buhari: Confab Report Is For The Archives - Confab Delegates Reacts by lastpage: 9:46am On Jun 04, 2016
PassingShot:

Let's leave emotions out of it and approach this issue with logical reasoning.

1. A national conference cannot be said to be credible without the input of all sections of the country and that of the main opposition party.

2. The legal backing must be in place for such conference to stand the test of time. In this case, it lacked the legal backing. Not in the constitution and not backed by any bill to the NASS. So, at best, the one GEJ did was a political conference for political ends.

3. PMB never campaigned with it. It was PDP/GEJ that campaigned with it. As such, it amounts to self-deceit for anyone to expect a president and his party that never believed in that jamboree to come on board and implement a report that was a product of political calculations and not of nation building.

Remember also that GEJ did not show any readiness to implement that report. My deduction is based on the fact that he only managed to send the report to Senate just two days to the end of his tenure (May 27th, 2015 to be precise) http://thewillnigeria.com/news/jonathan-sends-2014-national-conference-report-to-national-assembly/. A report that was submitted to him on August 21, 2014. Do you sincerely think GEJ would have done anything with that political report?

Thank you very much for your opinion.

Majority of Nigerians are HYPOCRITES!

I have asked the same question.... and many more:

1.) If that report was very important and a panacea to most of the problems we have in this country, why did Jonathan Goodluck who funded it with our tax, his Party which supported it, not implement it for a whole year when they kept it in their archive?

2.) Why is it that it is "Secessionist elements" (IPAD, AVENgers and their senior brothers in the PDP and the Eastern part of the country ar ethe ones who want the Report implemented NOW?

3.) Why is it that these people think that the report can be implemented in "pockets" ...and not as a whole? (having conceded that some of the proposals are plain dumb!). Why did they not insist a good job be done in the first place?

4.) How is it that people think that the Report will solve the "most important" of our problems?
For example: Hoe does the Report solve the problem of Power? or Petrol Scarcity? ... when we all know that these problems are caused by CORRUPTION! or does the report provide a solution to the problems of corruption, which is better than how this administration is tackling it?

5.) When the reports preaches "Autonomy" of LGA's, l wonder whether those advocating for such know the implications, without first solving some knotty issues in the constitution.
LGA's a the highest level of corruption in this country and we seem not to take notice.
Even now that they dont have autonomous accounts, what have they done with the money they have been getting all these years?
The just collect their allocation and share it ..or loot it and use it to buy houses abroad.

6.) they said the Confab report was produced by Nigeria's best minds! People who have excelled in their chosen profession That is laughable.

Yes, they may have "excelled" but these group of people are the actual cause of our problems, ab initio!
A Phd holder who is clueless and a grand-father of corruption?
"Military Generals" or NSA who looted money meant for the Military?
A Senior Lawyer like FFK, who take illicit and corrupt funds?
What about Olisah Metuh?

All these people have excelled in their chosen profession but that does not make them "exceptional", as events have shown! They are no better than ordinary thieves.



I can go on forever, to show that the Confab was a waste of resources, a "boys come and Chop" jamboree where Jonathan used money to silence people's conscience. He hand-picked his "yes-men" into that confab and it was a confab of people that looted/destroyed Nigeria, one way or the other

We tend to put things upside down in this country.
Aside Corruption, which is the "producer" of most of our problems, our immediate problem is the "criminal Constitution" that was written for us by Criminals, further amended by Military thieves like IBB, Abdusalam, OBJ... and foisted on the country by these criminals.

That Constitution was DESIGNED TO PERPETUATE CRIMINALITY AND PROTECT "EXECUTIVE" CRIMINALS.
Until "we the people" draft another constitution that protects and puts "the people" FIRST above all others, we will be building our house on a Fraudulent foundation.
Infact, it is that fraudulent Constitution that criminals are currently using, to escape Justice.

Let us amend all shady-areas of that constitution ... or just write another one.
It is only after that, we can now "confab" based on a sound foundation.


How can you have state Police when even now, some Governors have turned themselves to tin-gods, without a State Police yet, using their "constitutional powers"?

Are we supposed to create more problems, while trying to solve smaller ones?

Over five Decades of "resource imbalance", cannot be built-upon, by implementing resource control. It will never happen.
We need "correct" those imbalances in our resources, before any part of the country can even think of sitting on a resource that used to belong to the whole country.

I know the greedy ones want it all for themselves "right now" but they should understand that its either we all have it for now (while imbalances are being corrected) or no one would have it.



BTW: I am not against the President "reading" the Report....there will certainly be thing she can "appreciate" in it, even if just to understand "the plot" of these people. grin grin



Lastpage!

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Re: Buhari: Confab Report Is For The Archives - Confab Delegates Reacts by Kennydoc(m): 9:47am On Jun 04, 2016
PassingShot:

This is exactly my position.

How can any sane being expect PMB to implement a report of national conference he was opposed to right from beginning.

How can any rational person expect an APC govt that was not part of the conference to implement it's report they were never part of?

Many of us react to issues emotionally instead of pragmatically.


So if a previous governments started a project that would benefit the populace and a new government takes over, they should abandon the project if they didn't like the idea? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me. The interest of the nation should be a priority.
Re: Buhari: Confab Report Is For The Archives - Confab Delegates Reacts by Ahmedhussain3463: 9:51am On Jun 04, 2016
Destined2win:
I am really tried of talking about buhari's issues, he's just too backward
hahhahaha u funny .bt me na ardent buharist
Re: Buhari: Confab Report Is For The Archives - Confab Delegates Reacts by ogmask: 9:52am On Jun 04, 2016
Abeymills:
Bubuhari is just simply a disaster

It's so easy to insult buhari but you forgot that Jonathan couldn't do it either. If the man who started had more than a year to implement it and he couldn't then what are we even wasting our time here debating it.

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